Hey all,

While doing some research, I came across all of these documents (WARNING-there are a lot of them!!) These go into depth about the whole alien/U.S. Government relationship, and some of it is downright disturbing and hard to read if ANY of it's true.

I don't know much about the authenticity of these documents...the tone starts out as very offical sounding, and then seems to deteriorate in credibility as the tone takes on more of a subjective tone, and there are some spelling errors too that make ya wonder

Even if it's fake, it provides a good entertaining read! On the other hand, if any of it's real, then we're screwed! http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8167/ufodocs.htm

Let me know what you think (even if you only read a few articles).

I hope these haven't been posted before!!

Fly

UMMmmm!!

What Articles?

Sorry, got too into writing it that I forgot the link!! I fixed it:)

So is this proof that the US government is secretly communicating with the Annunaki depicted out from Sumerian writings, or is this a contact of beings from the future?

If I'm understanding your question correctly, it mentions that some of these beings are from our space and time, and that others are from other dimensions...I don't think it actually specified which ones we are actually supposedly interacting with now. I was a little confused about that as well. Because there are so many articles, I haven't had the time to read all of them yet- that may be revealed later.

I'm not familiar with the "Annunaki" you're talking about.

Fly

Well just remember to follow the universal truth: Within all truth there is fiction and in within all fiction there is truth.

Even if the article is real, certain parts of it may not be. And even if the article is fake, some parts of it may actually be true.

Exactly. I try to look at things objectively, whether I want to believe it or not, but I also keep in mind that just because something may not seem credible, that doesn't mean I should also totally discount it in case it is real. I'm not totally sure what to think of these articles yet, but I am fully aware that some may be true and some may be false.

Thats the best way to start.Some people just pick something they want to believe in and never EVER let anything mess with their fantasy.

No, its not proof of anything.

I would like to point out that just because something is on the internet and took a long time to compose does not mean that it is proof of aliens taking holiday breaks on planet Earth.

These theories often claim that human beings are either the descendants or creations of aliens who landed on Earth millennia ago.But as always with these theories there is lack of hard evidence.

Is it just me that think that the list of stars closest to our sun seem to be missing something?

Alot of this stuff seemed really interesting as i started to read it, but as i skimmed through a few articles i realized how fake they all are , and it seems its just made up, rather then actually being from the true sources.

Here is what i find odd for anyone to know, as well as the general directions given aren't quite normal.



http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8167/...xt/crim004a.txt

Near the bottom

"One will also find that each corner of their triangle is at
the base of a mountain. At each location you will find several
entrances to underground systems. Do not attempt to enter,
unless you wish to become liquid protein. You may however harass
the EBEs' two other corners by placing a large magnet on the
vaults...(placing a magnet on the other two entrances at each
location will not affect anything)


The EBEs are also allergic to high concentrations of sugar. You will
find that at two locations I have poured sugar around their
exits. Always wear magnets near these locations, they interrupt
the EBEs' sense of direction (due to an internal compass much
like those found in migrating birds) similar to our loss of
balance when our ear drum is affected.


Uh huh

Like it would be possible to have evidence of creation????

Yup.

I second that "yup".

yea I'm going to believe a guy who makes a site on geocities because he doesn't have enough money to buy a domain name and get hosting...Only thing I believe is this guy needs a day job.

sci-fi... UFO ramblings... JMO

If anyone is interested, go to http://www.bvalphaserver.com/index.php for an entire catalog of FOIA documents issued by the US gov't pertaining to many UM topics.

We ALL know ed... You really need to find something else to say other than constantly replying with stuff like this...we know...we know...we know...









Mind Freak has spoken!

Freaky, I actually rarely say the comment I made previously. I often say there is no proof, but I don't normally talk about internet and reliabilty.

Geez.

Mr Ed has spoken!!!!

Sorry, I hate to get on people's cases like that, but I just keep hearing "just because so and so said this, doesn't mean it's true..." or stuff along that line... It isn't just you, i'm sorry you were the one to finally make me say something...just sayin...we know.




Mind Freak has spoken!

Make you say something? I didn't even realise you had posted in this thread.

And I am going to make a point now. Believers in whatever on this forum, specifically regarding Aliens and crazy powers, always criticise the more skeptically inclined for repeatedly saying:
'There is no proof'
'Are you sure this site is reliable'
'That claim is completely unfounded, I mean where did you get that from?'
'There is no evidence for that, unless you can enlighten me'
Etc.

This is unfair. 'Believers' therefore can spout of any theory, something possibly as ridiculous as santa clause being an alien and his reindeer metaphorical representations of the nephilim (you get my drift, althought not all theories are crazy), and then say that the skeptically inclined are like old records for coming up with the same arguments. That is their opinion, they should be allowed to speak it.


Everyone can contribute on these boards, and to silence people from saying this stuff just means there will be hundreds of theories. What else is there to say?
Everyone who writes here is interested in the subjects, but most people don't just type 'there is no proof' in every single post and leave it at that.
Stop being silly.

Mr Ed has spoken!

There is a lot of stuff about this " O.H. Krill" on the web and I don't think any of his papers
are believed to be anything but fantasy.

I couldn't read the whole thing it was too long. He needs to come out with some cliff notes

That's not what I was talking about. People have every right to say the above, because it is the truth, or at least a good question. Stop jumping to conlcusions, because the only thing I commented on was you saying:

Do you see the difference? You were stating the obvious thing that everybody that comes on this site knows: Just because something is on a site, doesn't make it true. Duh... It is said way too much, and I just wanted it to stop. It is not needed. And frankly, it's a waste of a post.

Unless the same argument fits both situations, then yes...not about the theory thing, but about sounding like an old record...yes.

Really?

when did I start?

Who's being silly now, kid?



Mind Freak has spoken!

No, I can't believe you.
What a load of rubbish you have just spouted. That is exactly what I was talking about, read.
It is always obvious that these things don't exist, it is always the obvious thing to point out there is no proof, that has a right to be said.
Stop being a silly nanny goat.



Yes. Actually from reading your posts they always follow the same gist...



24-September 05



Lol kid...
I am not being silly, I am trying to be as cool as you, as you always seem to be right. Irony, yes.

Now end this ridiculous crap, don't dismiss what I said previously as it applies exactly to what you were saying, whether you see it or not.
Let's get back on thread, but please take the last word if that sends a tingle up your spine, I have had enough of being told I don't know what I am talking about as it is clear that what I said applies.

Mr Ed has spoken!

of course it's true. David Icke said so.

747400 has spoken.

There is no need to say that just because something is on a site doesn't make it real, or true...plain and simple, we already know that that's the point I was trying to make, if you can't see that, fine. You should READ, and maybe...just maybe, you will see what I am saying, that is if you can get your head out of your @SS. I am not going to waste my time continuing to argue with a stubborn seventeen year old who who can't see past his own views.
Now that I got that out... Does anyone actually think these are aunthentic, with a legitamit reason?



Mind Freak has spoken!

to be honest, i'm not reading all of that. lol.
however i know they are real .

Thanks for the laugh and there was the tingle!

Actually it isn't a theory...

Lacking hard evidence would had mean there was no writing of any kind depicting out extraterrestrials.

So there is hard evidence that the Annunaki exist.

And it was a millennia a go either?

You really should do more than just briefly read an article, I thought you said earlier about looking at something objectively.



I was only asking the topic maker, not anyone else.

There is no hard evidence that they exist, but since ancient writing acknowledged it, there is some. Hard evidence would be pretty much proof. I still get what you're saying though...







Mind Freak has spoken!

You're right. Its not even a theory, its a belief, plain and simple.



No, there isnt.



Nah, not really. These ancient writings which mention the Annunaki could mean they're some spiritual beings and not alien beings... plus, the ancient writings have to be confirmed. We have comic books talking about spider man, that doesnt mean its evidence of spiderman though.

All I meant was that there is evidence supporting their existence, in the writings. And that's true, just because they are in the writings, doesn't mean that they are real. But do you know of any proof that says that the annunaki were just purely fiction? If not than they could have been actual beings (whether it be spiritual or what-not). But just because we can't prove they don't exist, doesn't mean they do.








Mind Freak has spoken!

Only if the writings have been confirmed to not be fictional/incorporate fiction.



Hence they're not evidence.



Its not up to me to prove that. Its up to the person making the claim that they exist to prove they do. I never made the claim that they ARE purely fictional.



You've gone from the point (whether theres evidence or not) to something completely different. Im not talking about the possibility of whether they exist or not, I'm simply saying that there appears to be no evidence for their existence, imo.

Iv read about dragons,trolls and unicorns.That still doesn`t make them real now or in the past.




Believe you me,Iv read plenty of this nonsense by Däniken,Sitchin and others.
Of course, it is possible that visitors from outer space did land on earth a few thousand years ago and communicate with our ancestors. But its more likely that prehistoric peoples themselves were responsible for their own art, technology and culture.

We have no reason what so ever to believe our ancient ancestors memories were so much worse than our own that they could not remember these alien visitations well enough to preserve an accurate account of them. There is little evidence to support the notion that ancient myths and religious stories are the distorted and imperfect recollection of ancient astronauts recorded by ancient priests.

The evidence to the contrary--that prehistoric or "primitive" people were quite intelligent and resourceful--is overwhelming.

The ancient astronaut hypothesis is unnecessary. Occam's razor should be applied and the hypothesis rejected.

But there is... I didn't bother to show you any yet. You really shouldn't so hastey dear friend. All I did was talk in a different sense of mind explaining detail through pictures and diagrams of human evolution. You really should have been more open on what to ask for.

Hmm... you are not getting what I am saying.

By the way... dragons were bones of dinosaurs. So therefore they do or did exist, but just as something entirely different than a flying fire-breathing reptile.

Also the Komodo dragon is an actual living dragon, even though it doesn't exist as the flying or the fire breathing type.

It does however have a deadly bite and it is called a dragon, though it is just a giant lizard.

And a unicorn was really just a Rhino, it was just called and looked upon as something completely different.

And a troll is really just the depiction of the Scythanians that lived near the Black Sea, which were seen as wild people that practice witchcraft.

Obviously...


Your right, they are not evidence perse, but probably what sparked the original idea. That to me is evidence (in one way or another).

I know it's not up to you to prove it, i'm just saying, if you can't then the possibility is still there.

...







Mind Freak has spoken!

How am I hasty? What are you talking about? What wasn't I open about? Please explain...


Mind Freak has spoken!

Does that apply to StarWars?

Do you honestly believe that we dont have the imagination necessary to come up with this kind of stuff?

Ahh yes that elusive "hard evidence" you are dangling before our noses like a carrot before a donkey. I'm noticing a trend in your posts, and it doesn't seem to involve any evidence whatsoever...

A dragon is a mythological creature based loosely on the appearance of a snake and possibly fossilized dinosaur remains.



Since the rhinoceros is the only land animal to possess a single horn, it has often been supposed that the unicorn legend originated from encounters between Europeans and rhinoceroses.



A troll is a mythical race from Scandinavian folklore. (Sweden, Norway and Denmark.)
It evolved from Norse mythology wich refers to the pre-Christian religion, beliefs and legends of the Scandinavian people.

You are making claims that are based on what you believe NOT on reality.

I wouldnt say trolls are mythical...

I guess people don't understand the universal truth.


Let me lay it down to you all.

Even if the writings from the Sumerians are fake, they could still be real in another sense.

The universal truth is that in all fiction there is truth and within all truth there is fiction.

I know this and I accept the fact such could not be real, but I also take in the chance it might be real.

I do have proof nonetheless, but I am not willing to show any of it, because none of you are worthy enough. I need someone that isn't such a well you know. Easy to anger someone by constantly arguing and not knowing how much harm it is causing someone else.

so please stop talking to me.

By the way... you should quote me

like this:



"I guess people don't understand the universal truth. Let me lay it down to you all."

Blah blah blah blah blah blah

"Even if the writings from the Sumerians are fake, they could still be real in another sense."

Blah blah blah blah blah blah

and so one


The reason why it generaly quotes everything together is to hold all the information you are going to quote about.

You then like you do in a general sense of mind, take piece by peice any use quotation makes. It's easy to quote using quotation marks. And this is also a lot less aggressive manner in making a debate or conversation with someone. So I insist, please use it.

I know they say that sailors back in the olden days thought those big mammals that you find in Florida and places (i forget what they're called, is it manatees?) were mermaids because they'd gone without female company for waay too long, but surely a traveler to far off lands would remember what a horse looked like, and a rhino looks nothing like a horse?

(umm, i forget now what this has to do with aliens?)

You do realise how mentally unstable that sounds, right?



Posting on a public forum is not an easy way to encourage people not to talk with you. Would it not be easier to just not use the forums?

And who are you to define "universal truth"?



Oh, really? Well, in that case, I'll believe you really do have proof

Either put up, or shut up. Its THAT simple.

If you dont think we're "worthy" enough, you can always leave and find some other forum...



Sure thing... just stop posting.

You do realize that you can so easily ban me for no reason at all, and no one will do anything about it.

I don't trust your judgement, because I don't trust people in power.

All it does is cause corruption.

And arguing with someone like so is far more unstable than anything I could generate.



Hmmm.... If you are always like this, then how did you become moderator in the first place.

I don't want to take a fight with you. But you really shouldn't have become a moderator.

I really cannot tolerate your aggression.

But I guess the reason why you were chosen, was because the administrators are of no different.

I see this happen all the time.

People in power always misuse it. That is why anarchy is far more suitable than any form of government, even if it does lead to bloodshed. It atleast isn't becoming controlled by someone that tryies to enforce or force people to be different.

I don't see why you are doing what you are doing.

You aren't really enforcing anything "positive" by forcing me to coop with this sort of thing.

I never made any actual insults.

Unintelligence and unsophistication aren't insults.

They don't really have the same meaning as the words, stupid and idiotic.

They mean things such as generealistic and modernalistic.

Oh well maybe I am too much of a rebel for my own good. Haha....

If you dont want to fight with him, why are you?



Lol, his aggression... Well, if you cant tolerate it, so long!