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Siiyah
Did Socrates came to know the TRUTH about God and the Universe ?

The character of Socrates is quiet similar with Jesus Christ .

Why did Socrates said these words ? The only thing I know is that I know nothing what is the meaning behind these words ?
PLO
its similar to bhuddist ideas that to know nothing is to know everything, it means that knowledge at best is material and your mind without it would be in a pure state and would know everything you need to know already, without outside infulences. Like what sort of person would u have turnd to be like if u never ever watchd television?, probably a lot wiser.

Obviously this does not help you get a job, as u need to know somethign, but do u really?
Celumnaz
Things I say to myself Constantly:

The more I learn, the more I understand how little I know.

I never know, what I don't know. (my favorite)

So heavenly minded, no earthly good.

Smart, does not mean wise.

Perfect logic, based on a false premise, leads to a perfectly logical fallacy.

He was a great philosopher, but by his own statement he understands that he does not understand.
TheGreatWhiteHorse
The character we know as Jesus is actually very very similar to Buddha...Socrates was not much like Christ at all, save he tried to get people to think.

Socrates assaulted people on the street and he an his students would pound them questions about he universe, the essence of time, etc. to prove how ignorant people were and how smart they were.

Socrates was a scientist. He eschewed religion and fanatacism for logic and an attempt at understanding how things work. Jesus did not...he was a religious zealot and rabbinical instructor.
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Socrates said essentially that he was the wisest of men because he alone admitted that he knows nothing. He said that during the Apology which was recorded later by Plato. The point of his statement was not to admit his ignorance but rather to demonstrate why he went around questioning people constantly. The story he gave behind this was that the Oracle claimed that he was the wisest of all men, and he didn't believe it. As a result he went around and looked for a man wiser then himself. Every "wise" person he met seemed to know a certain area, but believed himself to know all. As a result he seemed foolish in Socrates' eyes. Socrates led himself to the conclusion that he was the wisest because he could see that he didn't know everything but rather very little and it was in this realization and desire to learn that led him to conclude he was infact wiser.
There is debate whether Socrates actually believed what he was saying, as it is clear in almost every dialogue that Socrates is aware of how clever he is and how he is almost unparalled in logic.
Socrates was like Jesus in certain cases. For example he never wrote his own teachings down. This was done by his followers, namely Plato. He did not "assault" people, but he was rather annoying, he likened himself to a stinging fly who's sole purpose is to rouse the great horse that was Athens. His intentions were not to prove how ignorant people were but rather to get people to think. However, his followers were composed of rich young people who did like to see Socrates outwit people he investigated. He was also rather poor like Jesus. He was also punished for his teachings, and his execution could of possibly been avoided as well.
His likenesses to Jesus are merely superficial, as their teachings were relatively different. Plato's teachings were more along the lines of Jesus, and his theory of forms was a early theory of the Christian heaven adopted later by, I believe, St. Augustine.
fantazum
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Socrates said essentially that he was the wisest of men because he alone admitted that he knows nothing. He said that during the Apology which was recorded later by Plato. The point of his statement was not to admit his ignorance but rather to demonstrate why he went around questioning people constantly. The story he gave behind this was that the Oracle claimed that he was the wisest of all men, and he didn't believe it. As a result he went around and looked for a man wiser then himself. Every "wise" person he met seemed to know a certain area, but believed himself to know all. As a result he seemed foolish in Socrates' eyes. Socrates led himself to the conclusion that he was the wisest because he could see that he didn't know everything but rather very little and it was in this realization and desire to learn that led him to conclude he was infact wiser.
There is debate whether Socrates actually believed what he was saying, as it is clear in almost every dialogue that Socrates is aware of how clever he is and how he is almost unparalled in logic.
Socrates was like Jesus in certain cases. For example he never wrote his own teachings down. This was done by his followers, namely Plato. He did not "assault" people, but he was rather annoying, he likened himself to a stinging fly who's sole purpose is to rouse the great horse that was Athens. His intentions were not to prove how ignorant people were but rather to get people to think. However, his followers were composed of rich young people who did like to see Socrates outwit people he investigated. He was also rather poor like Jesus. He was also punished for his teachings, and his execution could of possibly been avoided as well.
His likenesses to Jesus are merely superficial, as their teachings were relatively different. Plato's teachings were more along the lines of Jesus, and his theory of forms was a early theory of the Christian heaven adopted later by, I believe, St. Augustine.


"Socrates and His Understanding of God
An interesting thing about Socrates was that his religious thoughts were very different from basically about everybody during that time. While the Greeks were busy worrying about pleasing some petty gods running around on top of Mount Olympus, Socrates was focused on the idea of a much greater and perfect God that created everything and that watched over all of us. He thought that there was a higher and greater God than that of the pagan Greek gods. Socrates would make fun of the Greek gods through the Iliad and the Odessy. He would read sections of them to his students, talking about their jealousy and pride. Socrates would wonder how people actually believe them to be gods as imperfect as they were. To Socrates they were just immortal humans with magical powers. Even though Socrates was about 400 years before Christ, some people think Socrates would have agreed with the Christians and maybe perhaps would have been a Christian himself. "

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