I knew that....reason for the wink. LOL.

Yes I do think he should walk the streets for loose change but not to satisfy me but to satisfy himself and his duty to society in general. He posted here with his story he owes it to himself and anyone out there who gives a rats hairy butt about the paranormal to document and share his findings.

Lets say this epic tale is real and for one way or another after this entity kills him we find substantial proof that a real paranormal event occured.

Wouldn't we as a whole just shake our heads in disbelief that this man didn't do everything in his power to expose this occurence to the masses. On a larger scale could have or would have saved his life and changed mankind as we know it. Mind you just over a 5 dollar bill. Please.

We would hate him or resent him for not getting the job done and especially since he went to what is now 11 pages of a cry for attention.

Alright mate, I'm not going to fight with you. And I'm not going to walk the streets in the middle of a 20 degree winter just to look for change. I dont owe anyone anything, I could have just as easily kept this all to myself. As for involving the media as you seem to think would be a wonderful idea, no I'm not going to brink innocent people into this mess. Now I'll post my pics and my evp's as soon as I can.

Necromancer, although you probably already know this or a similar place, putfile(s?) allows people to upload video for free, for other people to watch and download - it might be a good place to host your footage.

You obviously posted this story because you wanted people to know about the situation didn't you. So you won't contact a media outlet because you fear for the well being of them but you contacted all of us.

If you feel that your putting others in danger by involving them wouldn't you be putting many more in danger by not exposing this entity that terrorizes you. What if this thing in your apartment is the doorway to hell and its here to take over the world and destroy mankind don't you think you owe it to the millions of "innocent people" to put the truth out there.

Necromancer I am sorry if you feel like I'm attacking you I really don't mean to be rude but truthfully I know I come off that way. I want more proof and less story telling and isn't that what this place if for.

This place is for the discussion of "Ghosts, Hauntings & The paranormal". This isn't the "positive proof beyond all resonable doubt" forum. Of course, you absolutely reserve the right to your opinions and beliefs about what you read here, as does everyone, so long as you are following the forum rules.

Upon reading the rules, I found the following:

"It is our aim to provide a high quality, friendly environment for our visitors"

And I also found this: No flaming - This includes making personal attacks against other members, verbal abuse, starting knowingly offensive topics, mocking or being offensive towards someone. Such posts or topics will be removed by a moderator on sight.


This was provided here: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/rules.html
The only reason I point this out is because I find that time and time again, you are merely creating posts to tell people how you are right, and they are wrong, AND you are being extremely rude about it. I am not defending Necromancer, as I do not have any proof one way or the other as to whether he is telling the truth. I am merely stating that this board is for discussion. No where did I find that it says you can only post here if you have proof. I am sure a moderater here can correct me if I am incorrect in what I believe this forum is about.

Thanks for posting I'm sorry I know I come off rude but don't you think its silly to post stories and pass them off as fact. If you want to tell a story thats fine just don't be deceptive about it.

People have read this thread and many others waiting for his proof that HE said he would post. I am mearly calling him on it and shouldn't someone.

I totally understand that you can post freely here for discussion with out any proof and thats fine and entertaining but I caught him in a lie of stories and exposed him. I'm sorry I guess I thought it had gone on long enough.

Other than calling him on a web of lies I never personally insulted him and if he is in fact poor and in trouble I did offer above to send him money and would still do so to this day.

His story was good he got caught and if I meet him tomarrow I'd buy him a beer I don't hate the guy I just thought enough was enough.

I don't think I was flaming him I think its ok to catch someone in a lie and then hold him accountable. I never verbally abused him.

[quote name='BishopRyan' date='Jan 7 2006, 05:23 PM' post='1010094']
Thanks for posting I'm sorry I know I come off rude but don't you think its silly to post stories and pass them off as fact. If you want to tell a story thats fine just don't be deceptive about it.

People have read this thread and many others waiting for his proof that HE said he would post. I am mearly calling him on it and shouldn't someone.

I totally understand that you can post freely here for discussion with out any proof and thats fine and entertaining but I caught him in a lie of stories and exposed him. I'm sorry I guess I thought it had gone on long enough.

Other than calling him on a web of lies I never personally insulted him and if he is in fact poor and in trouble I did offer above to send him money and would still do so to this day.

His story was good he got caught and if I meet him tomarrow I'd buy him a beer I don't hate the guy I just thought enough was enough.

I don't think I was flaming him I think its ok to catch someone in a lie and then hold him accountable. I never verbally abused him.
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I refer to the final part of BishopRyan's posting:

"I don't think I was flaming him I think its ok to catch someone in a lie and then hold him accountable. I never verbally abused him."
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I'm afraid I'm losing track here. Where did BishopRyan actually catch Necromancer in a lie? I don't think he even insinuated that Necromancer was lying. The way I understand it he was merely (rather impatiently perhaps) egging Necromancer on to come up with the photos and EVPs that he had promised. Necromancer has again said that he will do this when he can. I see no insults either delivered or implied. It is just that, having been informed of this rather impressive series of hauntings and the promise of evidence to come we are all very eager to see it and are apt to get a bit excited and impatient. I don't really see any rules being broken.... yet. Lonecat

Hi BR, I think I missed where you caught him in a lie. Are you saying he was lying because he hasn't put the information up yet that he offered? I haven't read every single post, it got somewhat boring what with everyone getting upset with him, so I don't doubt I missed a post or two here. I read a lot, but I don't think I read them all.
I am not by any means saying I believe him, nor am I defending him, I want to make that clear. I was only defending his right to post a story he believes if he so chooses. He seems to be technically challenged in a way, and I think that is the hold up on getting that information online.
TY for being polite with your reply, I appreciate that and apologize if I came off hostile in my post.

***NOTE*** To Necromancer: At the very least, if you have EVPs done with a recorder, you could play it next to your computer's mic and post it here for us to hear. And of course, I am sure you know any pictures you have can be put on disk at your local walmart or walgreens store. I am not sure about the video part, but I am sure there are those here who can give you further information on that.
If anyone has info on other ways he can get this info online, perhaps you should explain it better? So that even the less technical minded could understand and follow through... Just a thought.

That post was directly after a nap, and there was a guy on this forum that was attacking ppl verbally, post after post, and I think I got them confused actually. I know the name he goes by here, and BR is not the one.
My apologies to BR and anyone else that was offended. Could anyone explain to me how to block someone? Is that possible here, so you can't see their posts? I don't usually do that, but I don't particularly like arguing constantly, and it might be better off for all involved if I just block this person that seems so hostile.

I agree with everything you posted. Several months back I called someone on being rude to a brand new poster who was simply trying to share her story. She was being called a liar and ended up being frightened away. I was verbally attacked for doing so and told I was a troublemaker. One person even called me some unsavoury names (b#@*h was one) openly on the forums and has never apologised to me for it. I'm hoping things have changed around here since then!!!!




Saying he is a liar when you can niether prove or disprove that, is in fact flaming him.

I guess then calling him a liar is flaming so I'm sorry although I don't think its flaming.

I think I have found enough holes in his story to say I proved he's a liar beyond a reasonable doubt.

I stayed away from this post for a long time and once it hit almost a month and 9 pages I called him on it. I do feel I caught him in a lie.

Do I have proof positive that he is lying no do I have enough evidence he is lying to convince a jury of twelve he is yes.

If all this was happening for real he would have gone to far greater depths to secure his safety and expose the reality.

Many have offered him help and nothing. He can send me his evidence C.O.D or Western Union or I'll send him a box prepaid in the mail and he can send me his proof and I'll have it online with a full apology in less than 3 hours.

I don't believe him but I will offer to help him post his stuff happily.

Again I'm not trying to be hateful just trying to get answers. I'm not a bad person I will help him if he lets me but all this time later the ones that are intrested deserve to know if his story is a joke or not.

It's time to put up on this Necromancer.
People now justifiably feel like they're being strung along.....
Why dont you update us on whats been happening ? I'm afraid this is shaping up to be just another unsubstantiated story that strings people along just for laughs........come back on and say whats been going on at least ....it's only fair to keep the people who've stuck with you updated.

I've been ignoring this thread since about the fourth page and still no evidence. I'm not saying Necromancer is lying, I, too, just would like results. BishopRyan is more than willing to help you out with this, so what do you say, Necromancer?

--Jon

Bump.

bump

I'd like to know what good it is in a discussion forum just to write "bump". What does it mean apart from the dictionary definition? It takes time to check these postings to see if they are of any interest or just or just deserve deletion. Lonecat

Well, we want to know what's going on. Bumping this topic to the top may cause necro to reply faster (I don't know lol)?

He's not gonna reply to this thread in my opinion its reached its peak and its over. So with that said.

IMO, if he was making all this up he would have hightailed it on out of here and not come back after being called on it. The fact that came back and checked in on the thread after some time had elapsed says to me that he is being sincere.

Browbeating and bullying isn't going to enable him to do this any faster. Give him a break and give him the time he needs without hassling him.

Even if it happens that he can not transfer the video, that still does not mean he is lying.
And even if he does accomplish the transfer, how many of you will say he faked the video?


Edit: By the way......he managed to find his thread again just fine by himself this time. It really isn't necessary to keep bumping it to the top. All that does is waste the time of those people who have subscribed to this thread......who follow the email alert here to find a silly bump post. NOT COOL!

I don't think we were bullying him. I stated what I thought were obvious holes in the story and gave him ample time to respond to my assumptions.

I then offered my own personal time and money to help him out. Why would he not take me up on my offer. Even if he thought I was bullying him he still could have taken me up on my offers for the sake of everyone else that has followed up on this thread.

There is something wrong with this world when you read something that is put up and reported as fact and the few people who want clarification on it are criticized or called bullies.

If he post videos or pictures I'm not going to cry fake but I'll pass the pictures on so they can be anylized.

Earthchick are you telling me if you were terrorized by some power or entity you would be handling this situation the very same way. I doubt it this is serious stuff and possibly life threating. I would think you would be far more protective of yourself.

Does anyone have a link to this story on Ghost Study where he originally posted this. He is coming under fire there.

I still stand by my offer. I'll send him boxes and prepaid shipping and I'll post his findings lickity split. If he not comfortable with that I'll send him 50.00 so he can pay someone to post it for him. This sounds fair to me.

Oddly enough, some people don't like taking money from strangers, let alone giving them their personal address. Go figure! I know I for one would never give my address to a stranger on the internet.




Oh come on now! It is one thing to nicely ask for clarification, it is another entirely to push someone the way you've been doing. I didn't say I wouldn't like to see his video. I definitely would......but patience is virtue....you know.

He doesn't have to give me his address I can Western Union it to him or even a PO box or I would be happy to send the money to a third party he trusts.

I don't think I'm a bully but I do think I've put him on the spot. He excuses are a little silly. Don't you think.

He did say in his words I can't get my stuff online because I don't have 5 dollars. Basically thats it and that doesn't add up to me I'll help and be happy to.

Where is he anyway.

Also any links to his post on Ghost Study might be intresting. If there is one.

You say "where is he anyway?" That's a good question. Before everybody boils over or explodes with fury over this whole affair, it might be well to consider why Necromancer is not answering. If these death-threatening "entities" have carried out their threats it would be impossible for him to answer. I hope that is not the case most sincerely but he DID have an accident recently which kept him away from this Forum for a while. There might have been complications. Perhaps it was more serious than he let on. Or even this: he might have started this whole argument as an experiment in psychology and is sitting back and taking notes. If that IS the case then this thread is hardly worth getting heated about. Either leave it alone and forget it or just wait and see. I don't feel that BishopRyan is bullying anyone. He is just a little impatient and that is understandable. Just remember though, that anything could have happened to prevent Necromancer from ever posting anything again. As I say, I hope not, but if he is well enough to read these posts at least, and is not BOTHERING to answer, then we might as well talk about something else. Lonecat

Just a thought here, everyone wants proof so badly of ghosts/spirits. But what happens when someone has definite, un arguable proof? When someone provides irrefutable proof? Then what? The skeptics will have some new theory, and the believers will all jump up on their high horses and scream "Told you so's " until their throats are hoarse and voices fail.

Well I guess on the good side at least it'll be quiet.

Well he was last active on these boards on Jan 13th...or Friday the 13th. Hasn't posted since the 6th, however. Wonder...if...whatever...it is that could be haunting him...was what logged his browser into these forums???





















Or not

I always say anything is possible, but on this one, I have to say I VERY seriously doubt it...lol.

I can't make up my mind if he was here for attention and left when he figured no one believed him (or few did), or he was really telling the truth and doesn't know enough about the computer to post his findings. I would like to believe him, but without any more posts from him, I really can't say.

Are you still being haunted. Other than your EVP have you collect any additional data. Proof. Should I just assume the obvious.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence- Sagan



-the girl in the corner and that guy screaming down the hall at each 3rd sighting is my best I have seen in the net. I am waiting for the real actual thing about ghosts.

I might have sensed a few ghosts in my Time but not the real disturbances of some ppl do. I see a lot of true believers of ghosts here. Some of them I envy bec they are picked at before birth to see these things that others can’t.

My only proof of words of the something that is supernatural is at the day of my 1st communion. I have felt very Spiritual and uplifting. I have had the same identical experience a couple yrs later while I was biking and praying. The feeling is something is really there, “someone” actually is listening. That day of my 1st communion, there was alot pictures taken but that was yrs agooo and now I wouldnt know to ask that might have them.

It is almost time for me to do some biking at and around graves of Saskatchewan and share pictures once again with UM. The snow is melting.

I guess my point is to record these uncanny things. I would have by now or anybody would do something about it.

Hey Necro,
I'm in IA too.
Lets meet somewhere and I'll take your video and voice recorder and get it on my pc and upload it to this website for you. . . .
I'm the founder for a local paranormal research team here in IA.
Take care and Blessed be,

i'm new here... hope comes back haven't seen him in awhile. His last message was jan 6 06 ... i sent him a message to send me the stuff so i can help him post it so i can convert his vidoes for him and pictures and EVP....... i hope he is ok

Basic solution for getting audio from tape to pc

requirements audio jack to audio jack cable and 'sound recorder' on your pc (found in programs>accesories>entertainment of your start menu)

First of all setup the 'line in' channel for the recording by opening the volume control (double click the speaker on your bottom right or you can find it where you found sound recorder) in windows, options>properties>click recording tab and in the window below make sure line-in is checked>ok, now the volume controls you see are for the recording inputs check line-in and put the recording volume slider up to full.
Plug your jack to jack cable into tape recorder on 1 end and the other into the 'line-in' socket of your pc.
Now load up Sound recorder, press record in sound recorder and play the tape recorder with your evp tape in, voila!

Video requires any standard tv card or tv usb adapter which is alot cheaper than a canopus decoder. won't go into details about this due to the gui (graphical user interface) being different depending on the tv adapters software

Hope this helps.

If youve already got it on the pc then try tripod.com for free webhosting, its straight forward and the size limit for uploads is reasonable, running outta space you can simply create another web-space with them