Alright first I never said that I was freaking out over a ghost, and yes I have used my board for contact. And second I do know how to handle a ghost, I never said I didnt.
And thirdly I have not been using a computer for that long and its a bloody miracle that I even know how to use e-mail let alone all this equipment you people have been talking about. And lastly I know I can have things put on cd and dvd, but my money is very limited and I cannot even afford the 10 dollars or whatever it costs to get that done. I only make 900 dollars a month for christ sake and I am doing the best I can to get this information and proof to you guys.
For those of you who have been patient with me THANK YOU, you know who you are, and for those of you that are like this person well you can just go wank yourselves.
Have a great day now.

Why do you say "well said", Azalin? I found that answer by Archangelic rather snide and sarcastic. Lonecat

i agree..

and hes been doing the best he can to get the data hes collected put on the computer. i personally am in no rush to see it. altough it would be awsome. but i love the fact thats hes keeping us posted. thats enough for me at least.

maybe Archangelic didnt read the whole topic before posting.

Yes. I suppose that is the most charitable thing one can say. I sympathise,too, with Necromancer. I always find uploading stuff a real pain ....in the neck. Let's wish him luck!
Lonecat

I'm naturally a skeptic, so I don't believe this....I have dealt with a lot of phonies here...presumbaly AnuKabal

frogfish I can respect what you're saying, I'm usually a bit of a skeptic myself when it comes to things of this nature, I usually have to see something before I believe it so I dont blame you there.

For me and a few close friends.. i guess we have always known that there is something else out there other then ourselves. i guess it started when we where about 12. we started to see things in the corner of our eyes. and it wasn't just us that saw it. my whole family did. never the less it takes some people a very long time to come to terms that there is actually something other then us out there floating around. (or maybe even sometimes walking around.) i am not sure what i believe in i don't have a set religion atm. i know that there are greater powers then me out there. and sense i was raised a mormon i guess i lean more towards christian beliefs then other religions. but now that i am a bit older i am opening my eyes to new things.

WEll mate just take ur time....i can wait

I just do find this all very skeptical. Necromancer is a genuine ouija board user, then he should know a fair bit about ghosts, unless, he is just a thrill seeker. Not to mention, the activity he is claiming to have in this house is something out of a Poltergeist movie. If I was in his situation, I would have the Discovery Channel on the phone, or some media contact to come and capture all of this activity. Nonetheless, if he has all this evidence, why post it here ?, go to a news source, tell them your story, this will make a believer out of people world-wide if it is all genuine. We are not all skeptics, but it's still wise to think before we believe. I just cannot believe this guy moved into a house where he is all the sudden being beat around and things are being moved all over. If he is telling the truth, please, prove me wrong, but like I stated above, get some better media coverage, this could be a road to fame.

It was not so much the content of Archangel's last comments that I found distasteful, Azalin, but rather the tone of it, especially the final sentence. However, I do agree with you that Necromancer should have been onto the national if not the international media by now as this is about as sensational as the "Faces of Belmez" in Spain and that IS sensational as recently a declaration was made by investigators that the affair remains a mystery. I still patiently await some evidence of the goings on in Necromancer's abode in the form of EVPs or photographs. Perhaps he could get some friends to help him out with the technical side of things.

......and Necromancer, if you are reading this I'd like to know what the friends you have spoken to about all this say about it. Do you get any moral support? Best wishes from Lonecat

Yeah lets give the man a chance.......he doesn't even get a chance to post some of his evidence and he's being flamed out already....relax and wait is my advice.....better late than never

I have waited 30 years for something paranormal or ET to be proven real,if nessesary I can wait another 30.

I just hope it will be enough.

Hey ....i was going to say that

I say old chaps. Don't give up! It may happen tomorrow! I've had the experiences and I can tell you they are worth waiting for. The first one's rather frightening but after that you can't get enough of it. Pity it seems to happen only when you are not expecting it. Take heart. The fact that you are consciously waiting for personal proof of the so-called "paranormal" means you are ready for it. I hope that happy day comes for you this coming year (or before) to make it one you will never forget...in the nicest possible way of course. Happy Christmas and Yuletide! Lonecat

Yeah but i dont want any things that go bump in the night
I'm prepared to kind of go with good objective evidence............someone elses

What I need is for half the population in the city were I live,me included, to witness something like a star destroyer from SW gliding over the rooftops for an hour or so,then blast of into space seen by the ISS and every radar installation in the northern hemisphere.

I'm sick of blurry pictures of lights in the sky and hubcaps over the tree line.

seeking attention?

i had an interesting experience myself just 3 days ago. basically 2 friends and myself where wandering through old town pasadena. and went to the linda vista hospital. we couldn't go inside but we stayed outside and filmed a while. when we got to the end of the building i was filming in all the windows i could. when i focused on a figure standing in the window. i asked my friends if they saw it. one said yes the other has bad eyes and laughed. well anyways later that night i looked up the hospital and there have been other sittings of this same man standing in the window. well as soon as i can i will post a still of the window he was in. we are also going back this weekend to see if we can find an abandoned insane asylum. well ttyl

You guys have balls. Really big ones.

--Jon

i am not afraid of anything that is out there and i only have 2 friends that are the same. but of course if i was alone i would be more afraid but when we are together its like nothing can stop us. we have ran into lots of bad things and not once has it chased us away and hopefully it never will. we hope to someday do this more then just a hobbie. if thats possible. hehe..

Well, now that you put it that way, I can see not being that afraid when you're with company. I'd just be scared that the spirits or ghosts would follow me home or something.

Now that I think about it, I kind of have a story like that, it happened last summer (August, I think). It was around 10:00pm and we were dropping my girlfriend off at home when my dad says "look, there's a face in that window" (her house was allegedly haunted). My mom and sister saw it too. Turns out it was just the fat kid who lived upstairs wondering what's going on.

--Jon

haha funny,

yea its not so bad when you are with other people. i have not had anything follow me home that i know of anyway. i have my own spirits in my house i think they would scare the other ones away

Cool, kinda like guard dogs.

--Jon

hehe yea you could say that

See you gotta understand though, I dont want fame hell I hardly ever even watch tv. I'd be perfectly happy if none of this went beyond a few message boards, although I wouldnt mind people filming my house but not me and my name would be on nothing or I wouldnt do it.
Anyway if I can get this thing to work with my computer I'll have evp's up by monday and pictures i still have to get those on disc, i dont know when I'll get that done but I will tell you that I dont do orb pictures, too hard to prove, the pics I have are of other 'things'.

And Lonecat, I only have two friends plus my girl that will even set foot in my apartment. The 7 friends I did have in this town I get support over the phone but most wont come over even when tempted with beer. But the three that do come over are in denial even my girlfriend as strange as she is doesent talk about what happened.

Why don't you just ask it to stop? That seems to be the logical answer. Spirits want you to acknowledge they are there, that's why they do crap like this, for attention. If you say "ok Mr. Ghost-Man-Guy-Dude, I know you're there, stop f***ing with my stuff!" He'll stop. Well, at least that's what I'm told, I never practiced it.

--Jon

I already knew that thanks though. I dont really want it to stop cause I still want to get some digital equipment to capture some more "ghostly"stuff. I just want to be alive to so that I CAN do that, and not falling over misplaced items and breaking my neck would help. Just a joke. I can handle this stuff happening for as long as I have to in order to get the proof that I want. Soon as I do that thought to be honest I'm gettin the hell out of here.
Cause really whatever is here is certainly not happy with my presence.

I wonder why. Have you done anything to piss it off?

I guess just keep your eyes open, good luck, and don't die.

--Jon

Perhaps you should try and do some automatic writing, you might be able to find out why it's there.

Automatic writing? Hmm with all this going on I didnt even think of that. I used to do that quite alot a few years back but stoped once I made my first board. I think I'll do that though.

I can't wait to see this one...

--Jon

Me neither

Necromancer, do you have any info on the history of the place? You could try asking some neighbours. You could also see if they have heard anything or seen anything as it may not be just your place.

well put

hmm just be carefull i have tried that in the past with spirits that are violent and i ended up hearing voices for a few days. its not that i was scared but that everyone thought i was crazy hehe. if it wasnt so violent i would say yea great idea, but sense it is. there may be some bad experiences. but if you are not worried about that then go for it

Well lets just say I dont live in the best part of town and I found out from the guy down the hall that someone got shot over a drug deal in my apartment. I should have posted that earlier but I didnt think to do it.

Well that would explain a lot about the angry violent spirit in your apartment.

--Jon

I wonder if the spirits hanging out or withdrawing, maybe you could smoke some joints with it and get it wasted and then he might calm down and start being nice to you lol, just joking . Can't wait to see the stuff you have caught on tape though and to listen to your evps, and don't worry about these skeptics like said they have been waiting so long for evidence whats a bit longer. Although i am sure they are bound to find something wrong with what you post but hey we still believe you and can't wait to see it. So just try your hardest and when your ready we will be ready to.

Now I am one of those people who WOULD set foot in your apartment...only too readily. You wouldn't have to tempt me with anything either. I am "dying" to gather more experiences and I'd like to do it with say, a couple of skeptics (heh heh). If nothing happened then that would "prove" to THEM at least that the paranormal is a load of eye-wash and they'd be happy. If something WERE to happen then it would change their minds entirely unless they were determined to remain blockheads (by "blockheads" I'm not referring here to genuine skeptics who are willing to investigate). I would not mind being alone on my investigations but I'd prefer to be accompanied so that I would thus have witnesses to corroborate my report in the case of something really interesting happening. If I did the investigation alone nobody except maybe close friends or others who have had similar experiences would believe a word I said. My trouble is not being able to find anybody to come along with me. Also, I don't think spending just one night in a reputedly haunted place is enough. If I had the money I should like to lodge there for a week or a month to give whatever it is to have a chance of showing itself. Keep trying and good luck! Lonecat

Sarcastic ? NOOOOOOO I AM FURIUS !

I did read THE HOLE TOPIC and it his first topic said that he freak out ... His words not mine .
Now it tells that he used the board but not telling us what the talk about ! . If you have use the board you STILL Don't know WHY it is furius with you ?! COME ON ! That should be your first question ...
Going to media ? That is far more stupied than commming here and telling lies or not . There are organizations that actually do have the equiptmend to monitor all this and study them . Go there , they will be VERY glad and you wont even spent a penny.
As I said I DO believe in the ghost story I DON'T beleive his personal life story ! A satanist PRIEST FOR F SAKE USING THE CHRIST NAME ?! COME ON !!!!! I am neither a christian , neither a satanist , i do have my own believe but i have stop calling his name since i made my mind who i am !
As far for the evp ... What kind of tape recorder did you use exacly ? and how did you capture those voices ? did you JUST recorder them ?

Believe me i have seen and felt MORE things that he has ever seen and in to my life happent even more than this , i am not skeptic about the other side , i am skeptic about the people claimming that they have seen the other side . I hate lies and , i hate people trying to get something of it (either that is fame , or attetion , or just something to occupy your self with ...) . So I Get Furius when falls in to my attention a person like this . I try to awake people around me not to bury them in to a hollywood production ...

Okay mate, you've made your point but please don't burst a blood vessel. Just have a happy Christmas or whatever it is that makes you happy. Lonecat

Lonecat i have the brouclin bridge and i wonna shell it , are you interest on take it ? Happy x - mass for the cristians.

I am a born-again Pagan and I, too have my own beliefs. I celebrate the 25th of December as the birthday of Mithras (and later adopted by the Christians as the birthday of Jesus) and the day of Apollo and Sol Invictvs. As For the Brooklyn Bridge, I'm afraid I'm not interested. I wouldn't know where to put it as I bought the Eiffel Tower only last week. I hope your English studies bear fruit. Keep it up. Lonecat

Dangit...my spellchecker just turned in its retirement notice after that one.

Wow... you do sound angry!! Why? If you dont believe him, please pass over this thread then. It is true that this is an unconventional situation, and I am not too sure what to believe myself, but at least he is keeping us constantly updated as well as answering all questions. Some people come on the UM, make one post claiming to be part alien or a werewolf. Usually the "crazies" dissapear after they find out we are not going to be "in awe" of them. Where as I will make my descision on the authenticity of this story when all of the evidence is revealed, for the time being, I would say that I am not going to discount anything he says. Give him a chance, not everyone has the equiptement on hand to do all of this stuff and post it.

Hear! Hear! Lonecat

I am bornd greek and i suppose your ancient greek are far more better than mine isn't it ? Oh what about your latin ? can you spell Tantum ? I suppose you can ... Cause i can only speek 5 lingos (with greek in it) exuse me if my spelling sucks but i can suggest you tray to write in 5 language and then attak other for that . Keep the aifel tower you gonna need it to jump of it.
Good try lonecat but as your nick says you must be very lonenly ... And btw your judgement sucks ...

I am over and out cause as i've notice all people are same .

Not all people are the same. It seems to me that only you are. I agree with you about the "over and OUT" though. Lonecat

why is it that some people have to flame others. i mean we where really enjoying necro's posts and updates.. well at least i was and i know a few others where. then these flamers have to come in and do what they do best, Take ALL the fun out of the topic and make the original poster mad. (not that i am saying necro's mad. But i know that i would be.) i just wish that some people would just shut there holes and let the people that are enjoying the topic have fun.

I agree. I was really interested in what necro had to say and then the topic went out the window.