Many people - Americans very much included - don't realize that Kaiser Wilhelm gave very serious consideration around 1900 to launching a full-scale German invasion of the United States.

I suppose that Kaiser Bill held the same erroneous view that Hitler did 35 and 40 years later, that German-Americans would rise up in their millions to join with the German army. (In 1917, the American army enlistment rallying cry would become "It takes a German to kill a German!")

The Kaiser's own general staff seems to have eventually convinced him of the facts of life - that it would be sheer suicide to attack a modern, highly-industrialized nation with twice the population of Germany, solidly entrenched, and with no need of a trans-Atlantic supply line to worry about.

Hitler was lets face it a moron when it came to the miltary, this is the guy who stop all air force reasearch after the battle of france (well him and herman goring(SP)) and forced the german air force ( I can not spell the name of german air force of WWII) to make the worlds first jet powered aircraft to be a fighter bomber and not a fighter, even as there were almost daily bombing raids agianst germany by the allies, it would have taken years to even get enough supplies to invade america, cause by the time hitler would have had the time to even think heavly about invading america we would have bulit up a lot of firepower, look at how we where when WW2 started and look at how we where at the end, we got tougher really fast, plus we had a lot of aircraft carriers and hilter had what, one (called the Graf zepplin) that was never finished

The only major mistake hilter ever made was invading Russia before he had crushed England.

Had he not done this and not started a twin front war he would most probably have had an easy time of it.

Though Stalin would have hit him in the back sooner or later

I never heard of an invasion plan, but i heard of winged bomber, and sea plane bombing New York, and all the other major cities on the East coast. The Nazis did manage to land 5 spies or "demolition crew" on the East coast.
Hitler's mistake was that he got greedy

yeah, that was the second dumbest thing he ever did, he could have fought russia and won, he could have fought england and forced a truce (I doubt hilter could have ever conquered england) but he could not do both at the same time.

Hitler could have easily conquered England, Particularly with Russia on his side.

On the other hand had he done that Russia would have invaded Germany anyway so he had little choice.

He was going to lose no matter what happened for the simple reason that the Soviet war machine was unstoppable. And the Fascist and Communist doctrines were so opposite that sooner or later they would have been at it.

so could the have the Spainish Armada or napleon. the last time england was invaded and conquered was in the time of Julius Ceaser. so no hilter would not have been able to conquer england

My stepdad Claude said he would probably somewhere along the line. He also said that they had German Uboats off the coast. Before you go off or anything, he was born the year after WWII. There are also some abandoned stone forts up & down the coast near Ocean City, MD. Just in case. That's all I'm going to say.

I really doubt Hitler could have conquered Britain; A unique, almost accidental, combination of land-mass, navy-size and power, and air force deployment would render such an engagement all but impossible, and certainly extremely costly.

The truth is, Hitler never intended war with the British, and certainly did not wish to conquer them. Britain at the time (under Conservative rule) was much more right-wing than the Liberal Labour control its ruled under today. Hitler considored Britain a natrual ally long before an enemy.

To put things into perspective, it would be extremely difficuilt for the USA to invade Britain today. Yes, the USA is a lot stronger, but you have to considor all factors, not just how many missiles you can throw. Taking into consideration Britain's size, positoning, and millitary power in proportion to these factors, it presents a challenging target for any nation.

Just, for the record, and to save long arguements with the patriots, the USA would eventually take Britain; But you would struggle a lot more than your bulk, gung-ho attitude would anticipate or allow for.

Didn't Hitler plan on getting Mexico to join his side?

My granddad said that English courage and American money won WW2 hehe

He may have but, I think that you're thinking about the plan the Kaiser had for getting Mexico to open up a front on the American southwest to keep the U.S. occupied and out of the European war.

You have to remember, this was before satellite imagery, and the Navy had few subs to patrol the entire Atlantic Ocean with. While they may not have bee able to get to the US undetected, they may have gotten within a day, leaving little time to counter their attack.

gitler wasn't responsible for 3rd reich sciantific achievements, thank gimler for that.as a mater of fact gitler did more harm for his own troops than enemy;me 262 was a first jet fighter, he ordered to use them as bombers, first assult rifle mg44 gitler ordered to stop development, his generals thought otherwise and did it in secret anyway,no secret that gitler wanted to rule the world, if he didn't attack russia that soon(he did it to keep momentum going) he would gather a stronger army, then attack russia, india china, after europe and asia is his then he would be very capable of invading usa. and south america, i think south america wouldn't even put up a fight, don't forget that japan was his allay, if it wasn't for eastern front we could be speaking german now

The leading Nazi geo-politician Professor Karl Haushofer said that the master plan was to conquer the "World Island" - that is, Europe, Africa and all of Asia. After that it would be time to attack the Western Hemisphere and Australia.

Hmm......I remember him planning on putting up bases on Iceland so he could reach New York city with bombers. But the Americans saw this coming and occupied Iceland first (I am pretty sure it was Iceland). Not to mention the many Nazi spies and sabateurs sent to North America and German U-Boats just a few miles from the Atlantic coast.

I dont recall any intention on the part of the germans to invade the USA, though I think Hitler was hoping that a few bombs thrown at them would persuade them to exit the war...Though as he'd tried that with Britain and Russia(both of which are much easier targets being closer) and it didnt work then Im thinking he was just clutching at straws!

Just a little point: I was reading a while back about a wargame that the military colleges of sandhurst, and west point, and I think the french have played as well. The 2ww is very well documented. THere are plenty of records of the nature, strength and disposition of both German and British forces during 1940. We dont quite know where every individual bullet was but everything else we do know. Hitler planned operation Sealion to occur around september, hoping that the bombng would have weakened the RAF. This, from the fall of France only gave him a few months to plan the operation. By contrast the much smaller D Day landings took several years of preperation!
By september 1940 the Germans had very few landing craft that could cross the channel, they intended instead to cross in river barges that could only cross in absolute calm(and could all have been sunk if one RN Destroyer had sailed past!). Additionally there was little provison made for Armour to cross. They even tried a practice run with 40k men, which was a disaster, most of the men never making it to shore and the navel and army commanders arguing about who should be in command and make important decisions like where the smoke screen should go!

And so the wargame in each of the 6(i think) times its been played went something like this: Germans invade and meet rsistance from 2 lines of Home guard units deployed with fairly good defences and fortificiations, to slow the Germans whilst the front line units are deployed...In the Channel, the Home Fleet launches a counter attack and drive the Kriegsmarine out of the Channel, preventing them from resupplying the assault troops. Goering promises to supply them by air like he did at Stalingrad: The British thank him for the supplies of ammunition and food.
Back on land the Germans forced their way through the southern defences and head for london, only to reach the Military Cannal and realise theyve forgotton to bring any bridging equipment....
The RaF is now safe in the north and attacks at will, the Luftwaffe being too far away to do anything about it. The British army launches its own counter attack spearheaded by the Armoured Regiments from London. Contrary to what some may believe(including me until a few days ago!) British tanks aint that bad, and at the start of the war a Matilda for eg was a good match for an early PanzerIII. Of course the Germans havnt got much armour and are forced backwards. Each ended I believe with a last stand around Dover, or somewhere, and the invaders surrendering. I think the longest any of the "invasions" lasted was about 4 weeks.


Ok so I was a bit long winded and thats a very general overview but its about right. It does show though just how difficult a seaborne assault is, and hard taking another country entirely can be. Blitzkrieg can only go so far, before you have to slow down for repairs and resupply. Thats why the British and French armies got away at Dunkirk, the attack was running out of impetus already, and thats why they couldnt take Russia: Too far to go, too many supplies needed and too much resistance, and thats why Britain and America were safe from invasion. Even in 1940 Germany wasnt strong enough to take on more than one country at a time, and it didnt have the resources for a long war, 5 years was far too long! It could only draw on rescources from its own and neighbouring states: the Brits, Russians and Germans could draw on the rest of the world. An entire planet against one medium sized country?

During the Napoleonic wars a Lord of the Admiralty was asked about the possibilties of the French invading, his answer went along the lines of: "I'm not saying that they can't come, I'm just saying they can't come by sea"

There was a History Channel story about the Horton Brothers who invented the flying wing.

Gerbils or the head of the air force had plans for a big wing to bomb the USA, with A bomb as indicated by
their graphic.

However a recent PBS, most likely British made like most PBS and History Channel dis information, said
the Germany were no where near getting the A bomb.


Now I will mention a researcher in this area but check him out so I don't put too much of my own spin on this:

The Germans did have a Neutron bomb which they would have come close to US shores during the war
but with sea launched V1 type rockets to attack.

(Total my spin.. Germany helped US complete the regular A bomb to get Japan and a deal perhaps
for some top mucky mucks in Germany. )

From TV: the last U boat US captured had Uranium being sent to Japan. As a passing statement, Dernits
ordered the rest of the U boats to open their hatches. This was not the order or it can't be found.


Germany had all electric U boats better than nukes of today, explained by the researcher, hauling canister
behind them with the sea launch V1s with N bombs. Germany went to Africa to test the bomb.

(I recall seeing that sea launch rockets were developed by the NAVY in the 50s.. )


I think thats it for the Germany attacks US ideas from Mr. Lyne and his book.
Its way out, and his summary is in one of my signature links, heed my way out warning, like in
Seinfeld.. "Its really stupid." "OK, let me hear it."... "I have to heed these stupid warnings more often."