Jason Magicka
Dec 10 2005, 07:35 AM
Hello, new here, wondering if anyone knows of ways to manipulate time/ do chronokinesis other then using a pendulum.
(for those of you that don't know chrokinesis is manipulation of time, mostly just seen as just in a persons mind)
I've had a tough time finding information other then the same methods on different sites. The main method I'd want to hear about is with psychic energy
In the mean time I'm still searching for information and doing trial and error on it.
Skepticism is alright to me, and makes for intresting conversation, but flaming/ranting isn't productive.
victom_13
Dec 10 2005, 07:54 AM
welcome to um, sorry i can't help, but let me know how it goes.
Megalomania
Dec 10 2005, 09:26 AM
Manipulate Time? Good luck.
No-one, and I mean no-one. Can do this.
Otherwise they would have prevented a few disasters, eh?
Also, changing a variable in time, is dangerous. The variable, being your position and place. This could change the way history turns out.
fireball37
Dec 10 2005, 10:56 AM
This is a very complicated branch of psionics, whenever I've tried I only get brief flashes and for some reason a really bad headache, sorry but I can't really help.
Mr Ed
Dec 10 2005, 11:06 AM
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chrokinesis is manipulation of time, mostly just seen as just in a persons mind
Ah, so it's all in one's head?
Yelekiah
Dec 10 2005, 02:27 PM
How can you manipulate something that is invariant?
Just curious.
Bob_stew
Dec 10 2005, 04:39 PM
To you people who claim to have chronokinesis: What exactly can you do? Any examples?
Sorry, but I have problems seeing how this is logically possible. Please explain.
CharmedFan3
Dec 10 2005, 06:57 PM
is it possible to freeze time
Yelekiah
Dec 10 2005, 07:01 PM
Care to elaborate?
Time doesn't flow in any direction. It doesn't move, so how can you freeze it?
Richdog
Dec 10 2005, 07:05 PM
Repeat after me: there is no such thing as a psionic power called Chronokinesis. It is the invention of an imaginative mind... fiction. If mind powers exist at all in this world... that ain't one of them.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Dec 10 2005, 07:12 PM
I use cheesekinesis all the time. It is the ability to make cheese materialize in front of me. I would be willing to teach this skill for the right compensation.
TeraLink
Dec 10 2005, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(Richdog @ Dec 10 2005, 02:05 PM) [snapback]970047[/snapback]
Repeat after me: there is no such thing as a psionic power called Chronokinesis. It is the invention of an imaginative mind... fiction. If mind powers exist at all in this world... that ain't one of them.
So someone explain to me WTF is this "Matrix bullet-time mode" I've been hearing about.
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Dec 10 2005, 02:12 PM) [snapback]970054[/snapback]
I use cheesekinesis all the time. It is the ability to make cheese materialize in front of me. I would be willing to teach this skill for the right compensation.
Wow so do I.
TeraLink Was Here!
Megalomania
Dec 10 2005, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(TeraLink @ Dec 11 2005, 07:42 AM) [snapback]970148[/snapback]
So someone explain to me WTF is this "Matrix bullet-time mode" I've been hearing about.
I hope you're not serious.
If you are:
Oh. My. God. Ever heard of fiction?
Bob_stew
Dec 11 2005, 12:02 AM
QUOTE(TeraLink)
So someone explain to me WTF is this "Matrix bullet-time mode" I've been hearing about.

Way to go!

Replacement: Don't take everything seriously, dude.
Megalomania
Dec 11 2005, 12:18 AM
lol.
I didn't recognise it was a joke, try to add in smilies to imply that
Jason Magicka
Dec 11 2005, 01:06 PM
Time distortion happens in daily life, if you do something interesting, time seems to moves faster, and boring it moves slower, time doesn't really exist but in our minds.
"Repeat after me: there is no such thing as a psionic power called Chronokinesis. It is the invention of an imaginative mind... fiction. If mind powers exist at all in this world... that ain't one of them."
Skepticism is all right, but it isn't scientific just to say something doesn't exist. Yes, the term was probably invented in fiction, so was the atom bomb, yet that exists today when very few thought it could ever be possible.
Richdog
Dec 11 2005, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(Jason Magicka @ Dec 11 2005, 01:06 PM) [snapback]970839[/snapback]
Skepticism is all right, but it isn't scientific just to say something doesn't exist. Yes, the term was probably invented in fiction, so was the atom bomb, yet that exists today when very few thought it could ever be possible.
Come on... we're talking about actually manipulating time with your mind... it doesn't exist and isn't possible. It has nothing to do with skepticism... and everything to do with being realistic.
I find it amazing how some people seem to think ANYTHING is possible... seems to be the buzzword for people who will believe anything.
different
Dec 11 2005, 05:21 PM
I'm sorry but this type of kinesis does not exist.
Milo
Dec 11 2005, 05:46 PM
You could try having some fun... everyone knows time flies when you’re having fun... or get a new licence from the DMV... time will definitely slow down...
Yelekiah
Dec 11 2005, 06:51 PM
It is the perception of time that makes it appear as though it's moving (it isn't). But time isn't going to freeze by your will.
fireball37
Dec 11 2005, 09:06 PM
It is possible to increase your eye capture rate (or something like that ) which makes it seem like time has slowed down, it happens to people in car crashes and things, a lot of your time your mind has to stop processing colour to maintain the 'matrix bullet mode'.
Megalomania
Dec 12 2005, 05:14 AM
QUOTE(fireball37 @ Dec 12 2005, 08:06 AM) [snapback]971198[/snapback]
It is possible to increase your eye capture rate (or something like that ) which makes it seem like time has slowed down, it happens to people in car crashes and things, a lot of your time your mind has to stop processing colour to maintain the 'matrix bullet mode'.
Wow, that's funny, I thought people would close their eyes on impacts with another car.
I doubt you can make your eyes capture light faster than they already do... which is speed of light (if I remember)
Stellar
Dec 12 2005, 05:37 AM
Replacement, move your finger infront of your eyes back and fourth really fast. Realise that you see see more instances of that finger at different points? Thats because of the "capture rate" (probably the wrong term, but I dont know of a better one off hand) of your eyes. This is actually why we're able to watch cartoons. Imagine a game running at one frame per second. Its not smooth at all is it? Now, imagine one running at 20, then 30. Our eyes dont process the info instantly.
Now, I'm not sure what the process is, but it is known that under circumstances such as those (ones where your adrenalin is pumping like during an accident), things seem to slow down. This probably being, from what I remember, not because of anything to do with your eyes, but because you're thinking faster.
Stellar
Dec 12 2005, 05:38 AM
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time doesn't really exist but in our minds.
Time does exist.
Megalomania
Dec 12 2005, 06:20 AM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 12 2005, 04:37 PM) [snapback]971743[/snapback]
Replacement, move your finger infront of your eyes back and fourth really fast. Realise that you see see more instances of that finger at different points? Thats because of the "capture rate" (probably the wrong term, but I dont know of a better one off hand) of your eyes. This is actually why we're able to watch cartoons. Imagine a game running at one frame per second. Its not smooth at all is it? Now, imagine one running at 20, then 30. Our eyes dont process the info instantly.
Ah okay

I thought it would capture light as it comes

Thanks for clearing that up.
Bio-Mage
Dec 12 2005, 11:37 AM
QUOTE
Hello, new here, wondering if anyone knows of ways to manipulate time/ do chronokinesis other then using a pendulum.
None can manipulate time fullstop...let alone using a pendulum. If you refer however to our perception of time then several pathological conditions or influences can actually make your brain lose "track" as such.
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(for those of you that don't know chrokinesis is manipulation of time, mostly just seen as just in a persons mind)
Looks to me you are the one that doesnt know. My guess your credentials come from the latest Sci-Fi flick you watched...
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I've had a tough time finding information other then the same methods on different sites. The main method I'd want to hear about is with psychic energy
When psychic energy is established as an "existing" form of energy then maybe that would make sense. Right now however its one hypothesis based on another. Not exactly the most prudent course of action.
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In the mean time I'm still searching for information and doing trial and error on it.
Mostly error if you think like this. Trust me.
QUOTE
Skepticism is alright to me, and makes for intresting conversation, but flaming/ranting isn't productive.
Valid points and solid arguments also make interesting conversation. Yet I find your lacking. Flaming is a only a result of a careless post. A vicious cirle effect if you prefer.
In all time today is defined as the 4th dimension and in many ways is a parameter no different than height or width. Although our understanding of it, revolves around our own perception, time is a variable that still eludes us in terms of its relation to the others and its own qualities as a phenomenon.
Jason Magicka
Dec 16 2005, 02:09 PM
If time doesn't exist, then it is in ones mind, then manipulating it isn't impossible since its reality is just an illusion. Anything is possible, most things are un-provable, yes. I take these things with skepticism, in less something works for me I don't believe it works at all. As for preventing disasters, I don't mean time travel, I mean slowing or speeding time, not so much physical time, but mental time.
For a word to exist, all it needs is to be reconisedby several people, its popularity like the rest of kinesises is mainly in fiction, as are all the others, however. If five people decide to call cooking hobiling, then for them it is a word.
I should of said "time does not exist in my opinion, but is simply a product of our minds so that everything doesnt happen all at once" Time to different people in different places isn't the same, time was invented by humanity to schedual and plan in my opinion (Sorry for making my opinion sound like fact)
As for the energy and power being real, yes its debated, but to me, as long as I believe its real, its real enough for me. Proving it to billions of people is a harder matter, trying to do so through a post even harder, either try it or make up your mind on it, but debating it wont prove it. Although hard-core evidence that would turn the tide on the argument on the newagers favor exists, there have been documents and videos supposedly from the US and other governments' proving telekinesis and ESP, but of course most would say they've been tampered with or scripted. In any case its up to the individual.
Back on topic, anyone here not on this post for a skeptical debate have information about how to manipulate time in ones mind or otherwise?
Bio-Mage
Dec 16 2005, 03:52 PM
What you believe is irrelevant...time is not something you believe in. Like all constants of the universe they exist whether you choose to hide under your bed or not.
So if you want to "stick" to your topic here is the only answer that exists for you. The perception of time can be influenced in biological beings through chemical agents. Time itself cannot.
Raines
Jan 28 2006, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 10 2005, 12:01 PM) [snapback]970041[/snapback]
Time doesn't flow in any direction. It doesn't move, so how can you freeze it?
Exactly! It's not time that moves, it's us. Oh, also, for everyone's benefit, Time is not linear, and every moment in all of Eternity is happening right now.
To answer the initial question: You really shouldn't mess with Time. Sure, it could be of some serious benefit to you, but it could really mess someone else's life up. It would also mess with your Karma pretty greatly. Any current human has no idea what an effect messing with something could have. (The Butterfly Effect?) Also, any tampering with Time would have such a miniscule benefit in the grand scheme of things that messing with it doesn't seem worth the risk...
So it is extremely dangerous, and no one is smart enough to know the effects of tampering with it... However, if you are going to disregard all of that, I will give you your answer: Yes, it is possible...
I would recommend, however, looking into Astral Travel instead. That could allow your consciousness to move into other Time periods. You won't be able to affect anything, but... a lot safer than moving Time around your Consciousnes. The other way around is a better idea.
Peace, and good luck.
Namaste.
angrycrustacean
Jan 30 2006, 05:05 AM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 11 2005, 10:37 PM) [snapback]971743[/snapback]
Replacement, move your finger infront of your eyes back and fourth really fast. Realise that you see see more instances of that finger at different points? Thats because of the "capture rate" (probably the wrong term, but I dont know of a better one off hand) of your eyes. This is actually why we're able to watch cartoons. Imagine a game running at one frame per second. Its not smooth at all is it? Now, imagine one running at 20, then 30. Our eyes dont process the info instantly.
So our eyes more closely approximate digital video capture than they do analog? I say this because with things like CD recording, it only takes rapid samples, as opposed to analog which records absolutely everything.
On topic, I suspect 'chronokinesis' could be achieved if a person found a way to mentally harness the 'slow-down' effect we experience in accidents, adrenalin rushes, etc. It would not be slowing down time itself, since nobody else would notice, but to the practicer it would feel like it. I don't think however that you could trick yourself into thinking time had frozen.
Speeding up time could probably occur with the aid of amphetamines.
Triad
Jan 30 2006, 05:17 AM
In relation to these comments I would add a prior discussion in respect to the same topic at UM.....which include my comments.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...opic=57965&st=0Any thoughts?
mysticart1987
Apr 11 2006, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(Bob_stew @ Dec 10 2005, 10:39 AM) [snapback]969861[/snapback]
To you people who claim to have chronokinesis: What exactly can you do? Any examples?
Sorry, but I have problems seeing how this is logically possible. Please explain.
that is your problem don't think logically that is what got man into creating timein the first place so think that you are not bound by time and it does but doesn't if you want it to. but time is one of the strongest forces int he universe and it wouldn't take just that little amount of energy and concentration to slow yourself down or speed yourself through the time continum. so think but don't think too hard because evryone has had a moment where they have had time slow down for them and nothing destructive has happened to them. concentrate not noly on the beats between the seconds remember there is something smaller(for example look at your stopwatch and those little numbers fatser then the second think about those and you probably would go faster, think of it as seconds and the real seconds would slow down even much more)
mysticart1987
Apr 11 2006, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 10 2005, 08:27 AM) [snapback]969723[/snapback]
How can you manipulate something that is invariant?
Just curious.
it is possible. think of a stopwatch and think of those numbers moving faster to gain a second. think smaller and you will get big don't struggle just think about a specific situation that you wish to accomplish(like cleaning your house or room or running in a race that always works if you concentrate remember you have to have a tunnel to move through because you won't be in you time but a much faster time so remember this and you will be fine. believe me i have tried the running thing before and it amazed me when i done that i was moving and he was standing still just beginning to move as i was three steps ahead BUT DON'T BE AFRAID IT IS AT FIRST AND BELIEVE ME IT IS POSSIBLE.
mysticart1987
Apr 11 2006, 02:46 PM
don't belive alien but he is kinda right it is not really a kinesis ability it is something you can learn though and everyone has experienced it throguh an adrenalin rush. but in fact anything is possible through group thought look who brought time and GOD into existence man and group thought so if you think of iy so much it can become true or you could make it a kinesis only by you freezing time with a wave of you hand and walking or speeding it up so fats it just melts. but someone has done these things before unless it wouldn't of been thought of. and alien your mind is in the box because you would have to belive everything that you think of whether it is a fantasy or dream it can come true if you believe that this world is nothing more than minds-reality ansd we control time and space and the cosmos because we catolog it and if or minds were to belive one thing it could happen. look at the atlantians gone off the face of this earth and they had telelkinetic abilities and they might have had all the answers but the world may never know and there technology was far greater then ours today and figure out how they had gotten so far. our mind creates reality and you just have to be the one to know that you are in CONTROL.....
mysticart1987
Apr 11 2006, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(Jason Magicka @ Dec 11 2005, 07:06 AM) [snapback]970839[/snapback]
Time distortion happens in daily life, if you do something interesting, time seems to moves faster, and boring it moves slower, time doesn't really exist but in our minds.
"Repeat after me: there is no such thing as a psionic power called Chronokinesis. It is the invention of an imaginative mind... fiction. If mind powers exist at all in this world... that ain't one of them."
Skepticism is all right, but it isn't scientific just to say something doesn't exist. Yes, the term was probably invented in fiction, so was the atom bomb, yet that exists today when very few thought it could ever be possible.
your wrong becaus ethis world was built on people who believed anything was possible like the internet dimwit and even america even though it is so corrupt. but think again about what you say because belief is what keeps you head together unless you wouldn't be here. you sound like someone who live with his mother. because i believe anythign is possible and i am in college right now and chronokinesis is possible it is just something youwould have t put time into, maybe becasue i have experienced this multiple times and it is not manipultaing time it is just flowing or even making a tunnel through time to make yourseld go faster or make you perception go faster. because our eyes can almost see anything if you concentrate no matter how fast it is it is up to you to make your body folow at the same speed...
mysticart1987
Apr 11 2006, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Dec 12 2005, 05:37 AM) [snapback]971904[/snapback]
None can manipulate time fullstop...let alone using a pendulum. If you refer however to our perception of time then several pathological conditions or influences can actually make your brain lose "track" as such.
Looks to me you are the one that doesnt know. My guess your credentials come from the latest Sci-Fi flick you watched...
When psychic energy is established as an "existing" form of energy then maybe that would make sense. Right now however its one hypothesis based on another. Not exactly the most prudent course of action.
Mostly error if you think like this. Trust me.
Valid points and solid arguments also make interesting conversation. Yet I find your lacking. Flaming is a only a result of a careless post. A vicious cirle effect if you prefer.
In all time today is defined as the 4th dimension and in many ways is a parameter no different than height or width. Although our understanding of it, revolves around our own perception, time is a variable that still eludes us in terms of its relation to the others and its own qualities as a phenomenon.
it is in everyone on the planets minds except the one that have found out the reality of it all. that if everyone thinks of time of seconds minutes and hours then that shall it be but don't try to figure out all the scientific qualities of it think of it as a task to do and you will do it i promise you because there is something smaller than a second(look at your stopwatch and those numbers moving fatser to gain a second) if you could convince yourself with training and concentration that those were your seconds and the seconds were minutes then you could in and out of it to an extent but don;t be afraid and keep on going with it if you are in it. picture your self running or run actually and think of it as a tunnel because you owuld have to move out of your time space to getof to that space fast enough and time is all in your minds it is a matter of how you control it. BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THIS AND TRY IT OUT AND I BETCHA IT WILL WORK.CONCENTRATE.
piratejackdavamp
Apr 11 2006, 09:09 PM
Yeah im not sure if you can get good enoguh to literally CONTROL time but you can control how your mind perceives time i have been trying to do it ever sense i did it by accident. It was really wierd everything was slow and i was thinking reallllly fast. I have found a few methods and i like this one the best .
Time Dilation
Step One
First start by getting a pendulum or clock or something that make a ticking sound once a second. Then in your know time get comfortable and relax.
Step Two
Now listen to the beats of the object, Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock, Then focus on this sound and listen for the spaces between the tick tock sound focus on the silence and blend your energy with the silence realize that man is not governed by time. Time is simply a concept created by man.
Step Three
Now listen to the spaces between the beats, focus on the measure of silence getting slower and slower.
Step Four
Do this for several minutes and then if the beats are getting longer apart from the next one you've done it! Now just keep practicing and eventually you will get to where you don't need a pendulum or clock.
you can use the metranome on this website to substtute a clock
http://www.metronomeonline.com/it takes practice but can be worth it.
L815
Apr 11 2006, 10:19 PM
I've read in an article about this sort of topic, manipulation of time, in the mind of course. Basically, what i mean is manipulating how we take time to be. Thinking you've done "more" in a period of time compared to other times.
In the article i read, it dealt with the theory of using amphetamines (speed) to change the way time is thought. For instance, when you are about to crash (car accident) your perception of time tends to slow down and extreme rate, but the actualy time lenght is actualy the same, thus the manipulation of time, only in the mind.
The hard part of testing this theory is the fact that amphetamines are illegal, nevertheless, the scientists are currently working on creating other chemicals which can replicate the same "perceptions" without the "speed/hangover" effects of amphetamines.
THe article was more indepth, and explained better what i've just summarized in a few sentences.
But if find this to be true. Time being slowed down in the mind even thought he time "spand" has been the same.
L815
Apr 11 2006, 10:20 PM
I've read in an article about this sort of topic, manipulation of time, in the mind of course. Basically, what i mean is manipulating how we take time to be. Thinking you've done "more" in a period of time compared to other times.
In the article i read, it dealt with the theory of using amphetamines (speed) to change the way time is thought. For instance, when you are about to crash (car accident) your perception of time tends to slow down and extreme rate, but the actualy time lenght is actualy the same, thus the manipulation of time, only in the mind.
The hard part of testing this theory is the fact that amphetamines are illegal, nevertheless, the scientists are currently working on creating other chemicals which can replicate the same "perceptions" without the "speed/hangover" effects of amphetamines.
THe article was more indepth, and explained better what i've just summarized in a few sentences.
But if find this to be true. Time being slowed down in the mind even thought he time "spand" has been the same.
nee
Apr 21 2006, 12:09 AM
QUOTE(Jason Magicka @ Dec 10 2005, 07:35 AM) [snapback]969472[/snapback]
Hello, new here, wondering if anyone knows of ways to manipulate time/ do chronokinesis other then using a pendulum.
(for those of you that don't know chrokinesis is manipulation of time, mostly just seen as just in a persons mind)
I've had a tough time finding information other then the same methods on different sites. The main method I'd want to hear about is with psychic energy
In the mean time I'm still searching for information and doing trial and error on it.
Skepticism is alright to me, and makes for intresting conversation, but flaming/ranting isn't productive.
its the abilty to precieve things faster in your head. it IS NOT the ability to control time just to think faster than everyone else
Bio-Mage
Apr 21 2006, 08:41 AM
Or not at all in the case of amphetamines, if you abuse their use.
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