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I AAAM
Hi all. I have just posted the following e-mail to the editor for the Raelian Newsletters.

Date: 12/13/05 13:16:57
To: editor@raelianews.org
Subject: What is the "Big Deal"? on gay Marriages?

Hi.

As an ex Raelien, I would like to know why does Rael and the Raelians make such a big deal about Gays and Lesbians becoming married, when you don't even condone marriages between heterosexual couples?

This seems very odd to me, are you guys sure about what you are trying to do here?

I would also like for Rael to answer a question about Humans on Earth prior to the Elohim colonization here, and answer why the original humans were created with a twelve strand DNA, and when the Elohim re-created us, they choose to de-activate 10 strands of our original DNA, thus only creating us with two strand's of DNA, thus leaving us without our full human potential? I think this Elohim manipulation of us is disgusting to say the least!

Best Regard's
Claude Niero (Ex Raelian)


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bacca
I think telling someone that you are an ex anything, then criticizing them and trying to get an answer is the wrong way to do it. People don't normally respond to things like this, why should they? It actually seems rather rude, if you used to be a member or what not then have some respect for what they are doing or trying to be personally it means nothing to me either way so I don't know what the point is but from a letter stand point I can tell you it sounds rude and I'm not sure if you would want a reply but if I was the person recieving that I would throw it out and not give it a second thought
ShaunZero
I'm an ex-gang member and I use to rob people. Gang members are stupid!


Anything wrong with that? Nahhh, not to me. =)
GIDEON MAGE
okay, I really, really, really don't get this one. I have read a couple of phrases out of rael's first book, and it made even less sense than the new testament. who cares what rael thinks about anything?
Welsh Shaun
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Dec 13 2005, 04:37 AM) [snapback]973079[/snapback]

okay, I really, really, really don't get this one. I have read a couple of phrases out of rael's first book, and it made even less sense than the new testament. who cares what rael thinks about anything?


Here, Here, not something to lose sleep over sleepy.gif
Yelekiah
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I think this Elohim manipulation of us is disgusting to say the least!

You'll get a great answer with these comments.
EmpressV
I'm interested in why you joined them in the first place and also why did you drop out? I agree with bacca that letter isn't going to get a reply.
Yelekiah
Look up the thread called New Teachers. In there is the reason why he joined.
I AAAM
QUOTE(curiousity @ Dec 13 2005, 11:59 PM) [snapback]973454[/snapback]

I'm interested in why you joined them in the first place and also why did you drop out? I agree with bacca that letter isn't going to get a reply.


Hey that's ok! I never got one reply from Rael whilst I was with the group anyway, so what does it matter?

I joined the Raelians, and was a dedicated believer for 7 years, I did this because I could not find a clearer message from anyone else in the world who would offer us hope. and a new way forward to ending all the madness we create here. I discovered a few months back that there is a far greater truth to the one Rael has been conned to believe by the "Elohim" (Fallen Angels) I believe Rael has had these contacts, but is trying to recruit people for the wrong reasons. This is why it is better to wake up later rather than never, and to make people aware of what I have realised with this group.

Kindness and light to all who seek the truth and a way forward out of the darkness! thumbsup.gif
ICONvsICON

If you believe that Rael is trying to recruit people for the wrong reasons, what are they? I'm curious to know why.
Irish
While we are barking at the tree Claude

Seriously now your link tells the story of if ya can’t beat em ya might as well join em.
Starting your own cult and only $20.00 donation for all the answers.
Of course it says “Material Possessions Do Not make us who we are” However keep sending the twenties and we’ll see what you become.

I can see you did learn something from your old pal Real “there’s a sucker born every minute”

But now you expect us to believe that you have change and seen the light.
And for a mere $20.00 you will enlighten all of us.
GOOD LUCK

You old pal Irish
PLO
i really think what Rael is trying to say that religions are tax excluded orginizations like those damnable scientoligists
Paranoid Android
If I recall, a court ruling said scientology will not be tax-free. I could be wrong though, I'm just going by what someone here said when discussing scientologists.

Regards, PA
I AAAM
QUOTE(ICONvsICON @ Dec 14 2005, 08:44 AM) [snapback]974345[/snapback]

If you believe that Rael is trying to recruit people for the wrong reasons, what are they? I'm curious to know why.


I do not believe that Rael is trying to recruit people for the wrong reasons as implying that any form of deception is being used to do so. I believe that Rael fully believes the Elohim, and follows what he believes to be the truth from this race of creators. I on the other hand held the same beliefs, until I found a greater truth and messages to believe in and that is all there is to it. thumbsup.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(Irish @ Dec 14 2005, 09:14 AM) [snapback]974381[/snapback]

While we are barking at the tree Claude

Seriously now your link tells the story of if ya can’t beat em ya might as well join em.
Starting your own cult and only $20.00 donation for all the answers.
Of course it says “Material Possessions Do Not make us who we are” However keep sending the twenties and we’ll see what you become.

I can see you did learn something from your old pal Real “there’s a sucker born every minute”

But now you expect us to believe that you have change and seen the light.
And for a mere $20.00 you will enlighten all of us.
GOOD LUCK

You old pal Irish


Thank you for these comments Irish! Yes I have put together a folder which gives us the tools and concepts to follow, for anyone wishing to do so, to enable them to change their destiny. What a bargain! $20 Australian! and I plan to have a download of the same in the near future for only $5 Australian! Again what a bargain! Can you go into any website and download information that can positively change your own future for the better for a $5 Aust. Fee? I doubt it.

As for becoming rich out of this? Yeah, whatever you believe is true and this is your truth, but I am tired of being Mr. Niceguy who pays for everything himself to try and help people I have large internet bills every month, and it would be nice to be able to meet them.

Best regard's and kindness to you my Irish friend! wink2.gif
PLO
but why charge anything at all, immediatly you have put a price on kowledge, a material one at that, u have no overheads concerning free information, so u are endorsing enslavement to a false economy and proffiteering from it, which is an even greater crime, it is corrupt.
Irish
QUOTE(I AAAM @ Dec 13 2005, 07:18 PM) [snapback]974683[/snapback]

Thank you for these comments Irish! Yes I have put together a folder which gives us the tools and concepts to follow, for anyone wishing to do so, to enable them to change their destiny. What a bargain! $20 Australian! and I plan to have a download of the same in the near future for only $5 Australian! Again what a bargain! Can you go into any website and download information that can positively change your own future for the better for a $5 Aust. Fee? I doubt it.
As for becoming rich out of this? Yeah, whatever you believe is true and this is your truth, but I am tired of being Mr. Niceguy who pays for everything himself to try and help people I have large internet bills every month, and it would be nice to be able to meet them.
Best regard's and kindness to you my Irish friend! wink2.gif


Hello IAAAM aka Mrs. Doubtfire aka Claude and aka _______?

I noticed in the brief time I have known you, you have changed your own destiny(name and mind) a few times I hope you received a bargain like you offer, or you would be out of pocket a couple of hundred bucks on that road to enlightenment.

I have noted a slight irregularity, perhaps even a flaw in your marketing plan and would be happy to help you, for a mere $20.00 Canadian. Indeed it to is a bargain considering the state of the Canadian dollar.

Also Claude never get tired of being Mr. Niceguy, people don’t want to send their hard earned money to Mr. Rottenguy.

All the best with your human enlightening program and I hope you find your missing DNA strands, those Elohim can be buggers at times.

Save me a shrimp on the BBQ mate.

Your Irish Friend
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I AAAM
QUOTE(PLO @ Dec 14 2005, 03:30 PM) [snapback]974943[/snapback]

but why charge anything at all, immediatly you have put a price on kowledge, a material one at that, u have no overheads concerning free information, so u are endorsing enslavement to a false economy and proffiteering from it, which is an even greater crime, it is corrupt.


So call me corrupt, who cares? I know that for my corruption as you choose to call it, over the past 7 years that I have been active in giving out free downloads on my web site, and giving up my spare time in doing these things, I have never even received one thank you from anyone. All that I seem to draw in the way of comments seems to be negativity from people who do not even try to offer some form of hope or different path for us to try themselves. These same people then complain, because someone will not give them something for free. Well really I don’t give a dam about people who choose to sit on their arse and whinge without even trying to lift one finger to help themselves or others. Their education will come soon enough, and yes it will be free, and with a rude awakening shock to boot.

One of the great lessons that I am personally learning on these forums is, that your dammed if you do, and your dammed if you don’t! What a wonderful lesson to learn from our fellow brothers and sisters! Such love, such kindness, so much humility and so much tolerance to one another... "And I said to myself what a wonderful world"???
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I AAAM
QUOTE(Irish @ Dec 15 2005, 03:47 AM) [snapback]975675[/snapback]

Hello IAAAM aka Mrs. Doubtfire aka Claude and aka _______?

I noticed in the brief time I have known you, you have changed your own destiny(name and mind) a few times I hope you received a bargain like you offer, or you would be out of pocket a couple of hundred bucks on that road to enlightenment.

Save me a shrimp on the BBQ mate.

Your Irish Friend
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Yes! Thank you for your keen observations there Irish. I have changed, and I always will this I promise you! Have you ever known anyone in your life which has always stayed the same, say for the past 50 years? What qualities attracted you to this person, and what new outlooks could you share with this person which triggered a new spark of inspiration for your life? Even our friend from "Fiddler on the roof" learned that "Tradition" was a thing of the past. So why are we so slow to learn to "let go"? Are we afraid that if we are not politically correct at all times, and have a joke here and there that we cannot be taken seriously?

The other thing you mention about how much do I spend on my road to enlightenment, the answer is simple more than I am normally able to afford, but much of the knowledge is just plain common sense, which is etched in my memories of the past.

As for the shrimp, you can have your pick of the plate!
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PLO
your basically a carpet bagger, someone who would go round after the civil war selling "magic remedies" to people. Theres no difference.
amybutts
QUOTE(I AAAM @ Dec 14 2005, 09:00 PM) [snapback]976581[/snapback]

Yes! Thank you for your keen observations there Irish. I have changed, and I always will this I promise you! Have you ever known anyone in your life which has always stayed the same, say for the past 50 years? What qualities attracted you to this person, and what new outlooks could you share with this person which triggered a new spark of inspiration for your life?



HONESTY
Yelekiah
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Hello IAAAM aka Mrs. Doubtfire aka Claude and aka _______?

You forgot Angelica tongue.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(amybutts @ Dec 16 2005, 05:01 AM) [snapback]977374[/snapback]

HONESTY



Yes! I too am inspired by honesty, there is so little of it left in this world. But would honesty be the total answer to growth as a person? I think not! To say that honesty could inspire one for fifty years, without a means to expand and to grow as a person, to me would be called "Stagnation" and "Vaunerability" these traits are not what I would call inspiring towards ones growth. sleepy.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Dec 16 2005, 05:15 AM) [snapback]977393[/snapback]

You forgot Angelica tongue.gif


And he also forgot "ClAuDeHeRo" yes.gif w00t.gif thumbsup.gif

May his "Irish eye's keep smilling"! Gaud love him... w00t.gif
I AAAM
QUOTE(PLO @ Dec 16 2005, 03:09 AM) [snapback]977212[/snapback]

your basically a carpet bagger, someone who would go round after the civil war selling "magic remedies" to people. Theres no difference.


"I AAAM"! A 'carpet bagger'? Did you not know that the "Civil War" had ended years ago? yes.gif w00t.gif laugh.gif

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