Do you believe in things such as unicorns, satyrs, dragons etc.....the bible makes reference to them.....what do you think?

I don't ever remember the bible makeing references to unicorns and satyrs...

nor do I

I have never read the bible, as for my beliefs in unicorns dragons ect...no sorry but I have never believed in them

A story goes that unicorns, satyrs, dragons, etc were once alive, but when Noah built the ark they didn't get on and drowned in the flood...

Now that I think about it why didn't Noah squash those two mosquitos.....

Because he was a nice man.

Even in that story, there was nothing that said anything about Unicorns and such.

That and the mythologies of Unicorns came cenuties after the noah story was develouped.

Satyrs were even wrote about in greek and roman mythologies well after that time as well.

Same with even the native american mythologies... so *shrugs* the all mythos vanishing in the flood isn't feesible. (Not to mention the global flood.. but that's a discussion for another day)

No i dont really believe in these things in literal terms. A dragon could have existed long ago who knows- we have dinosaurs that flew (which some could have in term used as "dragons"). Again things are open for interpretation and what exactly they mean.

I challenge anyone to find the word "dragon" anywhere in the Bible

Revulations.. revalations.. whoever you spell it.

That's the only place I ever remember seeing dragons used... I have no idea what publication/version/translation/abridged/screenplay it was when I had it. And at 3:20 in the am I am not looking for it.

Hmmm, can't quite recall any dragons per se. There are the winged creatures worshipping God in Revelation 3 and 4. Possibly some other imagery. But even if there is more, if Revelation is the extent of biblical draconian images, then it is indeed a very poor proof.

For the record, some will claim the leviathan spoken of in the OT is a dragon (I always thought it was a sea creature, but Draconic Chronicler seems to say otherwise). Indeed, I await his post with great interest when he shows up.

Regards, PA

Phhht like I said... it was in a bible I had as a kid... probaly like KJ edition 59...

The Bohemath could easily be a prehistoric rhino... it fit the description well.. and they did exist when humanity was still trying to figure out why the big bright day star only shone when it did... or something (4 am... YOU'RE NOT GETTING HAPPY COUGAR!!)

THe leviathan can EASILY be a whale... imagin yourself as an early human making it to the great big ocean and you see this blue whale or whatever whale existed at the time (prehistoric whales were freakin HUGE) You'd think it was a monster too!


pleah...I'll look up the revelation dragony things later... but like anything from revelations is poor proof of dragons.. I agree

Geez, 4am, you're nearly as bad as I am...... actually, possibly a little worse

Considering Israel/Judah was anything but a coastal region, they turn up to the seaside, Jonah get swallowed by this big..... thing.... and no wonder they're calling it a leviathan *didn't you just say that though*..... hehe,

Regards, PA

The problem I have with Jona.. is it being called a whale. Whales cannot swallow human beings.

*snickers* It was a megaladon

Are you sure? I've read stories where human's have been found in whale's.

Also, forgive my ignorance, but what's a megaladon?

Regards, PA

Some species of whales and some species of sharks are quite capable of swallowing a man whole. Among these are the sperm whale, the white shark, and the whale shark, all of which have been found with whole animals as large or larger than a man in their stomachs.

Odd... I've read that their throats aren't big enough. Now orcas could since they eat seals and such. But blue whales and other baleen whales can only swallow krill and the like...

Sperm whales maybe.. *shrugs* But I don't think Sperm whales go near the middle east and I know orcas don't...


megalodon... think Jaws on steriods. It's the ancestor of great whites or some such...


the bigger jaw set being it's...

from a german site.. but it's a reasonable size comparison. The littler shark being a great white.

I am totaly ignoring Ramster right now because he said basicaly what I settled on agreeing on.

PA... I want an artcle, with pictures of a survivour!!

The case taht I speak of actually had a survivor who was found alive inside the whale.

Edit: just noticed your post SC. Double edit: editing my edit because you fixed it already

How is this an agreement with what i was saying? Not meaning to bicker- but first you said it could have been a huge blue whale, then you say it cant be a whale cause no whales swallow people whole? So i was a little confused.

Sorry from the posts i saw you didnt seem convinced it was a whale at first- so i clarified it could have been a whale or shark of some sort- its good we agree on it. You can just say "agreed" instead of totally ignore me which is a bit on the rude side.

Right in that same post! I flipped and agreed that sperm whales maybe... and Orcas because of what they eat. ;P

hahaha cool cool...Sorry i was totally confused. Yet that begs the next question- how could one last 3 days in there?

THere is breathable air inside the belly of a whale, it doesnt' totally get filled with water. People can survive 3 days without sustenance. Not very pretty, but it is doable.

Regards, PA

Yeah i read somewhere that its possible- he could have "naturally" survived in its belly for the 3 days...Its an amazing Bible story, because i try to picture it as it happened and despite it being hard to believe, i sense it as being possible.

One would think that that pesky thing.. oh what is it.. oh right.. stomach acid... would kind of hinder anything living in a whale's gut... forget breathable air... no drinkable water.. or food to eat... a stomach fulla acid isn't pleasent one would think.

Well found this Seems like that's one being eaten by a whale and living was proven false.

I really don't think you can survive in a whale's stomach at all...

Interesting read. Thanks SC. GOod to see your 5am's are not being wasted

(Red) Dragon in Revelation (depending on the translation). But unicorn? Do you mean the goat with one horn?

Isaiah 13:21-22 (King James Version)
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21But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Where are the unicorns?

Job 39:9-12

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

(looks it up)
I really don't remember that.

I hope you guys are enjoying these mythical fables as much as I am. I can't believe you think these stories have any credibility except in your book. A human could not survive in the stomach of anything.

Remember the Biblican event was apparently done unto by God....Think a "Miracle" think...done under Gods command- miracles do happen. Dont believe me? How about this for a story?

Vesna Vulovic, a flight attendant from Yugoslavia, survived a fall from 10,160 m (33,330 ft) when the DC-9 airplane she was traveling in blew up over Czechoslovakia (now Czech Republic), on January 26, 1972. A terrorist bomb was thought to be the cause, and no other passengers survived. Vesna broke both legs and was temporarily paralyzed from the waist down.Vesna remembers nothing, but later learned that a former nurse, Bruno Henke, saw Vesna's legs sticking out of the fuselage. Bruno cleared Vesna's airways before rushing her to hospital. Three days later she awoke from a coma in a hospital in Ceska, Karmenice. She says, "I was so lucky to have survived! I hit the earth – not the trees, not the snow, but the frozen ground."

A man being swallowed by a whale and surviving for 3 days doesnt seem THAT far fetched now.

The Bible was written poetically and there are metaphors in them. Not everything was meant to be taken literally.

How do we know if this wasnt meant to be taken literally ? All im saying is if a woman can survive an exploding aircraft and fall 33,000 feet to rock solid ground and survive (and not be permanantly injured) is a darn miracle! I believe in miracles and believe that the Jonah story was one of them rare happenings...

Wasn't she in the tail section of the plane, their are many stories of WWII tail gunners surviving plane crashes. The tail section is usaully a safe place to be in when a plane blows up and is going down.

She was a stewardess not a passenger- she was the only survivor and fell 33,000 feet. You make it sound so common...

Actually, I wrote that aimed at curiousity. My quote just happened to be below yours.
I, too, believe in miracles.

Sweet.

I know she was a stewardess the reports said she was found in her seat at the tail section of the plane. And I only said in WWII their are stories of tail gunners surviving plane crashes because the tail section was sturdy enough to support a person falling from high places

And yele, whether it is a metaphor or real, does it really matter to us, today, heading into the year 2006AD? If it is real? How does it affect us. If it is metaphorical, how does it affect us. In this instance, I think it would be exactly the same.

For the record, I'm with Ramster - miracle's happen.

Regards, PA

I still find it amazing- you know doesnt matter if she was strapped onto a seat- the impact from 33,000 feet (or 10,600 metres) should have ended with her wearing her spine on her head. Not to mention she survived the initial explosion- and why only her? The back of a plane carries more than 1 passenger.. My opinion anyways.

What does this have to do with my post? I don't take anything in that book literally.

Sorry if my replies seem off topic- im only trying to get the message through that miracles happen- and the happening of Jonah and the whale could have been one of them.

If you didn't, why'd you say this:

Not everything should be taken literally, so why do you mention credibility?

Yele did you read the whole sentence?

You were talking about the Bible, curiousity?
edit: Never mind, gotcha.
What I meant was it's not a wholly literal text. So why does credibility matter?

That's right yele. What is your point?

it was a fish, not a whale. and the unicorns, etc., are mistakes by kjv, just like the red sea. it was a typo-"sea of reeds" was the hebrew.

My point is in the text above yours