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user posted image rThis amateur footage is blurry, shakey, and frustratingly short, but it's recent and it's better than the Manitoba footage. It was obtained by a hiker on November 14, 2005, in a mountainous portion of Sonoma County in Northern California. Various people in the BFRO have seen sasquatches in the field and know what they look like. We've seen plenty of hoaxed footage over the years as well.With that said, we are confident the Sonoma footage is not fake (i.e. not animation or a man in a costume). This figure is most likely a real sasquatch -- a survivor of the gigantopithecus line of apes.The stooping, ducking figure in the footage may stand 7-8 feet tall, and may weight 1,000 pounds or more. Each arm may weigh well over 100 pounds.itnesses in different parts of the country have described unusually pronounced arm swing. Some unreleased footage shows it as well.The hiker/cameraman, Mark Nelson (from Ventura County), was hiking up a traill off Skaggs Springs Road in the mountains of northern Sonoma County when he noticed this figure on the road moving away from him. He had his camcorder in his bag.

He pulled it out and ran toward where the figure stepped off the road. Mark was looking around trying to figure out where it went when he saw it down below him on the hill. The figure moves to the left at first, then squats down trying to hide in the grass. It gets up and moves to the right, toward thicker brush and trees. Mark tries to zoom in but looses focus just before the figure is out of view.

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Welsh Shaun
Is'nt there anymore footage, surely it just didnt stop there. He must have gone back around the other side of the bush to catch the Big Foot coming out the other side? hmm.gif
darkknight
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The entire clip will be posted eventually. The clip available at present cuts off right as Mark zooms in and looses focus. There's only a few seconds more, but you don't see the figure any longer. The camera swings down to the ground right after the last frame in the present clip.

thats common....
Chokmah
QUOTE(darkknight @ Dec 13 2005, 01:35 PM) [snapback]973424[/snapback]

thats common....


if you're going to comment on something, you may as well put something worthwhile... mad.gif

anyway, I think its a hoax (no sh**), if you're gonna take photos, you may as well try and get clearer shots... like, hold the camera above your head and take pictures, not "hm, theres bigfoot, i'll take pictures here so that the wheat will obstruct the picture..." disgust.gif
MoonFox
I dunno whether it's real or fake... I do believe in Bigfoot- we discover new creatures all the time, anything is possible.

But I do want to comment on how everyone complains about the quality, etc. of cryptid photos...
It's not as easy as it may seem to get a good shot of a moving animal... especially one far away.... while you are nervous.

You should see how many tries it sometimes take me to get a good picture of my dog posing still in front of me lol!
Not everyone's a good photographer, and not everyone has the best equipment.

If you didn't believe wolves and Otters existed... and I showed you the blurry pictures that came back from my recent zoo trip... you'd still not believe in wolves or otters ^_~;

So the fact that these pictures are crummy quality doesn't really mean anything.
Depending on the person and the equipment, AND the distance of the creature and if it's moving... you are NOT gonna get a good shot of it.

Knowing how hard it is to take non-blurry pics of animals... I would be more skeptic of a clear shot than of a shot like this. If *I* were to take footage/photos of a Bigfoot... this is probably how mine would look too.

MadEyePixie
Couldn't have said it better myself, MoonFox. Hoax or not, its pretty spiffy.
QueryAnalyzer
I don't believe the footage is real
I just could take my 6.5 ft friend to the mountain, tell him to wear a gorilla suite and I would shake my camera a bit while filming, and thats it, got my own big foot footage.

I really want to believe big foot exists, but anytime I see this kind of evidence..it sucks no.gif no.gif no.gif
RedRaider9981
Excellent MoonFox. thumbsup.gif I believe this footage to be real, and what seems interesting to me is the swaying of its arms just like the one in the Patterson film. ohmy.gif
~Alex
"what seems interesting to me is the swaying of its arms just like the one in the Patterson film"

I thought that was interesting as well, but why would the footage stop there? If you have the ba##s to turn around and run towards this creature to film it...Why not also follow it to get a better shot, if you've already gone as far? And about the Patterson footage similarity...Seems too coincidential. Kinda 'copy-cat-ish.'
Unpro
QUOTE(Welsh Shaun @ Dec 13 2005, 01:06 PM) [snapback]973383[/snapback]

Is'nt there anymore footage, surely it just didnt stop there. He must have gone back around the other side of the bush to catch the Big Foot coming out the other side? hmm.gif





catch the Big Foot coming out of the other side huh? What if it is a wild gorilla on the loose somewhere?


catch it on the other side? w00t.gif


and for god sake, Mark, stop playing with the digital zoom function!
MadEyePixie
QUOTE(~Reality @ Dec 13 2005, 08:02 PM) [snapback]974522[/snapback]


I thought that was interesting as well, but why would the footage stop there? If you have the ba##s to turn around and run towards this creature to film it...Why not also follow it to get a better shot, if you've already gone as far?


Well, I dunno about you, but I'd rather kept my distance from a giant creature who could snap me in half like a twig, even if it is Bigfoot.
RedRaider9981
QUOTE(MadEyePixie @ Dec 13 2005, 07:37 PM) [snapback]974585[/snapback]

Well, I dunno about you, but I'd rather kept my distance from a giant creature who could snap me in half like a twig, even if it is Bigfoot.
Exactly.
~Alex
I guess I should have just said that I personally feel it's fake.
MysteryVy
yea if i were the guy, id chase down that thing with the camera until the battieres die
Iron Aden
Not much spooks me, but I live in the country and if I saw a Bigfoot looking in my window or saw one near my house it would scare the sh** out of me. You wouldn't chase a grizzly.
darkknight
QUOTE(Leliel @ Dec 13 2005, 07:16 PM) [snapback]974039[/snapback]

if you're going to comment on something, you may as well put something worthwhile... mad.gif

anyway, I think its a hoax (no sh**), if you're gonna take photos, you may as well try and get clearer shots... like, hold the camera above your head and take pictures, not "hm, theres bigfoot, i'll take pictures here so that the wheat will obstruct the picture..." disgust.gif

that is worthwhile comment laugh.gif how many times do you have see the photos or video shot of so called bf out of focus or in bad lights or from distant....these guys ever heard of chasing down bf.... laugh.gif
Welsh Shaun
QUOTE(Unpro @ Dec 14 2005, 01:32 AM) [snapback]974573[/snapback]

catch the Big Foot coming out of the other side huh? What if it is a wild gorilla on the loose somewhere?
catch it on the other side? w00t.gif
and for god sake, Mark, stop playing with the digital zoom function!


Well thats the difference between me and you.

If I had a chance of getting proof and answering one of the biggest questions of the century, I would do anything in my power.

The thing would probably be more frightened of me than I would be of it.
Nadal
QUOTE(MysteryVy @ Dec 13 2005, 11:19 PM) [snapback]974849[/snapback]

yea if i were the guy, id chase down that thing with the camera until the battieres die

Im sure ya would. no.gif You would soil yourself then run for your life like 99.9% of this forum would. Anyways, the swaying of the arms are because it's a two legged animal. It's like a big fury human. They're going to sway there arms as they walk, too. It's instectial, they also said that each arm could weigh 100 pounds. Also, the report said (If you read it and didn't just cut to the movie) that there are A LOT of sightings of Sasquatches by the locals in the wheat fields. I'm sure that's because...WHEAT. This footage could determine if it is real, that it could be a omnivore or an herbivore. Also notice how it walks slouched like a primate. The arms swing very odd to be of a humans swing aswell.
Azalin
I also agree if you were to see a Bigfoot, chances are you will not stay around to watch it for long. Like any animal in the wild, if it feels threatended, it will attack, and thats the last thing I want chasing me. It's significant as it is that he got his camera out and still got the picture he did, but I wouldn't follow it, PLUS, I highly doubt he could keep up with some a creature. As human nature, the first thing we do is identify our surroundings, and keep away from danger, I would assume Bigfoot would do the same, it would eliminate any threat around it. If I saw one, I'd take off, I saw it, I believe now, and that's all that matters to me.
wcturnersr
This film has me wondering if it is real or not. All of a sudden there is an increase in video footage of bigfoot. Is it possible that there might be a couple of guys going around the country wearing a costume like this. Also, from what I can tell in the film, it looks like bigfoots face is turned away from the camera as he is walking forward. Usually, if an animal is trying to sneak away, it always keeps an eye on what it is trying to get away from or at least look forward to see where it is walking.
I think bigfoot is trying to hide his big fake face in this video. original.gif
MoonFox
I agree with those who say they wouldn't 'follow' the Bigfoot...
It takes alot to scare me... If I see black bears in the wild I will sit & watch them- b/c I know what they are and have a knowledge about their behavior.
No one knows about Bigfoot. We can assume it's a gentle species... but we don't *know*.
If I were to sit and watch or follow a bigfoot... it is not known how it would react. Would it run away? Would it feel threatened and attack? Is it protecting a nearby mate and babies?
All animals have wild instincts to protect themselves.
But at least with scientifically known species, we have a better idea on how we can act around them without threatening them.
With unknown animals, we just don't know.
Maybe some people are willing to die getting better shots of Bigfoot so that whoever finds their mangled body will find the camera footage...
Not me...!
Even if someone DID get themselves killed chasing a bigfoot, all the skeptics would say it was hoaxed anyway.
Not worth dying just so people can call you a liar lol.
I'd be perfectly thrilled just knowing myself that *I* saw him in person and I tried to get some footage from a safe distance... and people can think what they want.
But I'd be alive and know the truth ^_~
Not dead and accused of a hoax :-p
Nadal
Also, another explaination for the swinging is because he's going UP a mountain. Meaning, he's struggling as the force of gravity pushes up on them. He's moving too fast to be a human up a mountain to be human...unless Arnold is doing the lead role of Kong.
I am
I think the reason bigfoot video's are on the rise is because technology is getting cheaper and more portable. Just because there was less footage of bigfoots during the '60s or '70s doesn't mean they weren't seen as often.
Unpro
u know the last time I see a live male orang utan, it scares me to just go near it. That thing got hands larger than my head. If it is not for the 4inch bars between me and him, I wouldn't even bother to go near.
go ahead guys, have fun, see something big moving in the bush, go closer...

get eaten...
MoonFox
QUOTE(I am @ Dec 15 2005, 01:59 AM) [snapback]976435[/snapback]

I think the reason bigfoot video's are on the rise is because technology is getting cheaper and more portable. Just because there was less footage of bigfoots during the '60s or '70s doesn't mean they weren't seen as often.


Very good point. It wasn't til pretty recently that 'just anyone' can afford a camera or camcorder. Plus they have shrunken so much. Today you can find an affordable camcorder the size of your hand... back in the day you had a huge glonky, expensive thing you needed to set up on tripod, etc.
TooManyPuppies
As interesting as the footage may be, let's not forget that the BFRO has developed a rather sketchy reputation as of late. They've practically turned into a business with the intent of taking people on tour of forests to see bigfoot for hundreds of dollars per person.

Just upping the dosage of skepticism. thumbsup.gif
crypto-dude
Here is what a friend of mine had to say about this:

I just watched that bigfoot clip and I think it is a hoax. The main reason why is how the cameraman over-zooms-in at the end of the video, I would guess supposedly to get a better look at it, BUT considering how close this creature appears to be anyway (about 40 feet is seems to me) I just have to ask why anyone would WANT to zoom in at all when they are so close, unless they did not want too many details of the "creature" to be made-out which would reveal it to be a hoax. If I were that close I would just keep filming because like I said why would I want to zoom-in when I'm that close anyway? Also, this "bigfoot" looks more like a human in a costume which is slumped over rather than a real creature like in the patterson film. In the patterson bluff creek film that bigfoot looked just like a real, living, breathing creature. It was not slumped over as apparently these hoaxers were trying to imitate - it simply had a head which was set deep into its shoulders which gave the appearance of slumping. Fossils of Gigantopithecus are very similar to the anatomy of the bluff creek bigfoot which gives it more credibility to me. Plus, the bluff creek bigfoot was very "robust" - it was quite thick, muscular, and fatty whereas this hoaxed bigfoot looks skinny. I suppose a starving bigfoot will be skinny too, but it is more consistent with a skinny human in an ape costume trying hoax a sighting by just being seen for a brief, blurry few seconds & obscured by alot of tall grass. That is what made the bluff creek video so amazing - it was for the most part an unobstructed view of this creature as it walked off into the woods. A hoaxer would want as little clear footage of himself as possible - just the bare minumum - to keep people guessing as to the authenticity of the stunt (which is exactly what this footage seems to be like to me.) In a true filming of bigfoot the filmer would want as much as possible to be seen - just like in the patterson film.
snuffypuffer
Well, it looks to me like the Squatch doesn't quite know how to handle a little human with a camera coming right at him. And I'm so happy to finally have a damned video load on my computer. It's been freaking ages.

I'm holding back on the hoax judgement because dude obviously had little time to whip out his camera and get this thing on film, so I can forgive the shakiness. Plus he's fifty-odd feet from a frikking Sasquatch, I'd be a little bit nervous, too.
joc
The video has been proven to be fake.

Click Here Thanks MagikMan! thumbsup.gif
snuffypuffer
Cleared that right up. yes.gif Thanks!
Saru
From the article in that link, sounds like a definate hoaxer to me.
Bigfoot_Is_Real
Just wacth the footage and its a hoax heres why

1. WHAT IS THE GUY LOOKING AT IN THE FIRST PART OF THE VIDEO!!!

2. NO!! its not even a good attempt at re creating the Patterson film not even close the arms may sway like it but the way it acts shows its a hoax i mean c'mon if ur that close to a bigfoot why dosen't it look at you REALLY!! in all the videos if seen the bigfoot usally looks at you then walks or runs away

3. the way it moves is clearly human slow it down and it will look like a guy in his hoodie walking out of the bushes and gets real close to the camera then walks away

4. WHY DOES THE BIGFOOT TURN AROUND TO GO BACK INTO THE FOREST!! i mean c'mon theirs got to be a reason why a bigfoot just jumps out in front of a person and doesn't just run real fast into a nearby forest no bigfoot ive seen does that

5. when he zooms in the bigfoot seems to disappear instanly as if it turns around to see what it looks like on the camera like some person after he does a movie goes up to the directtor to see what he looks like on camera


this even isn't a good hoaz no.gif angry.gif
fullmooneyes
Is it just me, or does the outline look like a canines skull?
wcturnersr
QUOTE(I am @ Dec 15 2005, 01:59 AM) [snapback]976435[/snapback]

I think the reason bigfoot video's are on the rise is because technology is getting cheaper and more portable. Just because there was less footage of bigfoots during the '60s or '70s doesn't mean they weren't seen as often.


That is true. But it also means that there is going to be a lot more hoax videos!
XSAS_Daughter
I have seen a few fake ones and they are sometimes easy to tell.
Bigfoot_Is_Real
yeah like this one i mean c'mon if ur being looked at by a human and u don't know what its doing why dosen't the bigfoot look
snuffypuffer
Watching this again, I don't know what I was thinking in my first post. Dude's shooting a lot of nothing off in the distance, then goes way over to his left to catch this thing walking by. Bleh.
Bigfoot_Is_Real
Agreed this is a silly attempt to make ppeople belive that this is a bigfoot when what it really is.. a poorly done hoax
Conspruth
geek.gif This footage is an absolute fake. The "Sonoma" footage is from Pen & Teller: Bull! "Cryptozoology". Pen & Teller made the film themselves to see how many people who go crazy over it and they created a fake website and story to go along with it as well.

A little experiment to screw with you yes.gif
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