Where has it been proved your intelligence is greater than mine, or, how that is a factor in any of this?





Go back a page.

Real friends wouldn't try such a thing as to make a profit from them

I base a lot of it on the pms you sent to myself and Ro. You tend to come to the incorrect conclusions about certain things(from my observation). You never answer my questions. Perhaps you're a coward, perhaps you just don't know. Also, not too bright of you (since you're married) to be complimenting another married woman on her looks. But hey, just my opinion.

Are you kidding me? Hardly comparable to the wealth of information we had posted.

The Voynich is not solved. I was asking for help.

I invited him to my forum to talk about these things in a private setting.....???


My wife compliments other men and women on their looks too.

So what.

I honestly have had enough.


Thanks.

So what? That's rude because she's married. And she didn't feel your comments were welcomed. You kept saying Voynich was "cracked". There you go changing your mind again.
What does how she look like have anything to do with solving it anyway?
Ah, you've had enough. Cool.

That is all that I said, and it's a comfort to know who I am talking with.

If you had a picture posted, I would say the same thing as well. It's called "getting to know someone". Of course I am going to have to get to know people if I want to share research with them.



*misanthropy sets in*




I have never changed my mind. I say I know "four ways to interpret the Voynich".


One way this is possible is that the "text" could be a song...you know played on the piano...

Jesus Christ, please help us all.

*coughs swingers*

With the love emoticon
Hmmm...ok.

And I would say my bread wasn't buttered that way.

Really? So you're going to send it to Yale as anonymous? I hope someone profits from it.

This is the PM......I see no "love" emoticon.



And this came after I sent a PM asking her to "help".....

(hold)

That's because you edited it Pison. Pretty clever on your part. And easy to do in Paint and Photoshop. Done it myself actually to test out avatars.

Another thing, tell me what this man is transmuting, if you "cracked" it.

You play games, I play back.
edit: yea, she already posted that pm a few pages back.

Who cares what he is transmutating at this point....look at what he is standing in.

Becaue you haven't cracked it.

No, he is standing in a "pipe". Most of the women seen throughout the book are in "birthing tubs", popular in Roman times. They are also seen in "bathing pools" where the water flows from small segments of pipe....



Shall I go on?

Yeah please do I have trouble sleeping

Yes, then it will be the first good input you put into his entire thread. Duh.

....

The shape? That's it? This is what you've been "cracking"?

...

....

More pics with little input. Are you still going to send your info to Yale as anonymous? Or have you "changed your mind"?

Are you blind?


Do you know this section of the sky?


Do you know the stories behind this part of the sky?


The "golden fleece"?

...

The golden fleece was a good storey

this looks like people being stuffed into a big mincer and the dogs at the bottom are eating all the yucky ground people.

To the fact that you have no real input (besides pics on Voynich)...nope.

^Thank you for the intelligent response. Once again, you didn't answer my Yale question. Honestly, you probably shouldn't send your "info" to them. I doubt they'd be interested in a bunch of pictures and redundant questions.

Right, and I asked many questions about things other than a university that does not want to hear what I have to say, no matter what information I have, and those questions were not answered.

I tried to stay on topic here.

You insulted me and my wife.

Thanks.

I'll take that as a no, hence, you contradicted yourself again (because you said you don't change your mind). Hope your book isn't brimming over with contradictions. Critics might get a tad bit picky, eh?
You kept saying you cracked it. I doubt you know what any of this says. Hey, I don't either, but I never bragged that I cracked Voynich.

edit:
What? The sleepy face
you guys posted. My comment?

.....the painter had 'egrot poisoning' was what I thought.

Lapi'che

Don't you mean ergot lol *slaps him again for making a boo boo*

@ Piney

Wait......another perspective?

Thank you very much. But, as Yelekiah has made clear, this conversation is going to get nowhere.

Unless *you* have input Pison, which you never really do.

Your wife....ohh you mean noir right?...something tells me Pison has more than one ID LOL

You are wrong.

The moderators can tell.

Whatever.

You just post pictures and ask questions. Oh yea, I forgot...you posted Tool lyrics.
Go on about Voynich. We're waiting.

They can only tell if you guys are using the same PC that is using the same IP address...and a number of members have came on with diffterent ID's, so who's to say you aint one of them

*shakes head. Smacks BM back* I said ergot......ouch I getting a headache between these two threads........

Lapi'che

this exchange is getting quite fiery. I'm not too sure what to think of the voynich manuscript because of a pastime that Monks of various institutions in europe indulged in.
The would produce short works of mild illustrated pornography with coded text. the codes varied and were known to a select 'club' of authors who shared their work between them.
These small volumes would almost always be destroyed once their novelty ended.However, here is something which you may find interesting:

from http://www.economist.com/science/displaySt...tory_id=2329803

Gordon Rugg, a computer scientist at Keele University, in England, thinks he may be one step closer to an explanation of how the text might have been created. In a paper published in the January issue of Cryptologia, he uses low-tech 16th-century methods, rather than 20th-century computing, to generate text resembling that in the book.

If the Voynich manuscript is a fraud, then one plausible suspect is Edward Kelley, an Elizabethan con-artist. So Dr Rugg borrowed one of Kelley's techniques. He used a grid of 40 rows and 39 columns to create a table which he filled in with Voynichese syllables. He then placed a grille—a piece of cardboard with three squares cut out in a diagonal pattern—on top of the table, and started forming words by reading off the syllables as he moved the grille across columns and down rows. The result was words with the same internal patterns as Voynichese. Dr Rugg and his team are now writing software to create dozens of tables and grilles in an attempt to reproduce other linguistic patterns in the manuscript. If their findings hold up, it would mean that the regularity of Voynichese is no longer an argument against the manuscript being an elaborate hoax.

Of course, this does not prove that the manuscript is nonsense—an impossible thing to demonstrate, in any case, since failure to find meaning in the text does not make it meaningless, but simply beyond current methods of decoding. Indeed, Dr Landini believes that the Voynich manuscript might yet yield to massive computing power. If it does, most people expect to find a work of modest historical interest, rather than the secret of life. As with most puzzles, the thrill of solution lies in the process, rather than the product.

to read the rest: http://www.economist.com/science/displaySt...tory_id=2329803

Methinks this is true.
I only edited my extensive posts as an ultimatum, Pison. You said you'd have more input other than pictures, etc. But I have yet to see that.
It would have been fun if we could have cracked it all together, but things were very lopsided. Ro and I were doing all the work, and you...weren't.

Oh, well.

Ooopsy.....I'm dislexic now from getting bopped by BM's Shelaggi......

Lapi'che

Tool-Lateralus
Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.

Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see there is so much more
and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind.

Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

I embrace my desire to
feel the rhythm, to feel connected
enough to step aside and weep like a widow
to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral
of our divinity and still be a human.

With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
between the sounds and open wide to suck it in,
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out,
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

Spiral out. Keep going, going...

...........................................................

Edit: Oops. Sorry, wrong thread

LMFAO

Whats that I smell sniff sniff...could it be the smell of someones pants on fire?
LOL Piney made a boo boo *slaps him again and sends him into the dunces corner wearing a pointy hat*

Piney

It's more like:


Black-1
Then-1
White are-2
All I see-3
In my infancy-5
Red and yellow then came to be-8
Reaching out to me-5
Lets me see-3
There is-2
So-1
Much-1
More and-2
Beckons me-3
To look through to these-5
Infinite possibilities-8
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine-13
drawn outside the lines of reason-8
Push the envelope-5
Watch it bend-3

I am aware that Tool uses Fibonacci sequences in their music, nothing new to me.