The water is rising up on me
The water is rising up on me
Thought the sun would come deliver me,
but the truth has come to punish me instead

Die!!

The ground is breaking down right under me
Cleanse and purge me
In the water
Flood--Tool

Pison, I posted a picture of Aries too. Do you think this document is talking about the zodiac in some sense?

EDIT: The word at the centre of that picture looks like Octobre (October).

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Pison, you must know more than just a few lines from a Tool song, and reposting some of Yelekiah's Revelation post and another picture.

Pison, did Maynard James Keenan put you up to this?

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"Spiritual, or heavenly horses represent judgment, and usually dramatic judgment for the sake of violent purification. They are a portent of bad things to come. In scripture, the symbolic horse generally represents a particular aspect or agent of punishment or plague. In Rev 6, we get a taste of things to come in terms of horses riding out with the first "seals".

In Rev 19:11-15, Jesus appears in ultimate judgment on a white horse with "His robe dipped in blood", a violent and fearsome image of God's ultimate purging wrath being poured out on rebellious mankind. The following verses should give the gist.


Zec 1:8 (NIV) During the night I had a vision--and there before me was a man riding a red horse! He was standing among the myrtle trees in a ravine. Behind him were red, brown and white horses. I asked, "What are these, my lord?" The angel who was talking with me answered, "I will show you what they are." Then the man standing among the myrtle trees explained, "They are the ones the Lord has sent to go throughout the earth." ...This is what the Lord Almighty says: 'I am very jealous for Jerusalem and Zion, but I am very angry with the nations that feel secure. I was only a little angry, but they added to the calamity.'" ...Then I looked up--and there before me were four horns! I asked the angel who was speaking to me, "What are these?" He answered me, "These are the horns that scattered Judah, Israel and Jerusalem."
Zec 14:12-20 (NIV) This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. On that day men will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other... A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps. Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty... This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. On that day HOLY TO THE Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord's house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar."

Horses in Tarot

"On the black horse we have the Knight of Pentacles. On the red horse we have the Knight of Wands. There are two knights who ride either white or “pale” horses, depending on your interpretation: the Knight of Cups and the Knight of Swords.

If you look at the Major Arcana, you can see some further correspondences. First of all, the Death card is also riding a horse. The pose his horse is in is virtually identical to that on the Knight of Cups - which would lead me personally to believe that there is supposed to be a correlation between the two figures, and that this then is the “pale” horse. The meaning of the Knight of Cups card also has to do with introversion and looking inward - perhaps a further correlation to death. Does this mean then that the Knight of Swords is the First Horseman, on the white horse?

Another interesting connection: the black rider in Revelations holds a scale, and is generally called “Famine.” The suit of Pentacles relates to both the earth, and to money - a form of measuring. In the Major Arcana, we see a figure with scales, Justice. Justice also has a crown on her head - such as given to the first rider, and a sword, such as given to the second rider. The Four Horsemen are released upon the world as part of God delivering Justice to the world."

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This is the same image I posted before. This is the center circle (or, yes, the sun) of one page of the Voynich. Here we see the scales of balance, the scales of justice. These are obviously 'water' scales, and it seems that black is a little heavier...which is the point of Revelation. The return of the raven (from the story of Noah, and his flood). The IRONic metaphor which is the antichrist.

It's time to come full circle.

Also interesting to point out is Revelation 6:6...



The "one quart" (or 25/100) can be seen as the 24 people who watched the lamb break the seals of the small, sweet, yet bitter, book at the beginning of Revelation.

In this picture it also gives us an English word "Octobre"......which implies: a time to harvest. The fruit is gone.

I googled Octobre and it appears to be a French word. France is a hot-spot for alchemy. The other thing is that I wonder if the 7 seals have anything to do with the 7 days, or the 7 chakras, or the fact that are 7 colours in the rainbow?

Yes....to all of those.


France is a pentacle as well...

Looks like a blob of snot to me.

Hmm...interesting.


Relate where Paris sits on the pentacle to DaVinci's drawing. Paris sits right at the stem of the brain..............or near the throat where snot would drip...

Or, check out where France sits on this map of the gravity of Earth. The red color is the highest concentration of gravity:






NP: Gravity - Aperfectcircle

And, yes, all of this ties back into the Voynich.

We are all one.

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what does snot have to do with stuff again?i'm kinda confused

Pison agreed that France is full of snotty people.

I have no idea where we are going with these posts. So far we have noticed a bunch of things which relate back to other things that we already know, or are not secret knowledge. Why create a whole new language to hide whatever the Voynich Document is trying to hide?

Alchemy and the occult is already common knowledge, so what makes this possibly alchemical document so different? What are its secrets, Pison?

Well it's not the secret of life, otherwise Da Vinci would still be kicking.

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The ultimate secret to Manyard's lyrics and the RABBIT HOLE

This is the pile of information that I have mentioned somewhere in one of these threads. Rennes is one of six places around the globe that I have been reading about for almost fifteen years, places like the great pyramids, the yucatan peninsula (central american cultures), the mural...

...they have all lead me to the Voynich...

But, sticking with the idea of gravity and France, more specific a symbol found near the church at Rennes:



Take away the text and a familiar four point symbol is seen:




Any thoughts on this symbol?

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Gravity has a high point and a low point (possibly shown as the smaller PS symbols in the above image?):

It's poetic, and that is why I post lyrics.

The heart.

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Shiva could create and destroy by dancing
The Star of David is not only a religious symbol by the Hebrews, but it is also known as the Mark of Vishnu (half-man, half-fish). It represents "as above, so below"
Here is a Voynich pic thought to represent celestial bodies

My my that Shiva must have been a lady's man.