i heard rachet n clank and jak x are coming out its gona b kewl

who agress wit me??

and umm jak X is a kewl game i tried it its all bout racing and shooting and rachet and clank gladiator is about duesl and collesiums

Actually, they're both already out. The Ratchet game is just called Ratchet: Deadlocked. I own Jak X. I've had it since the day it came out. Insanely awesome game, it is. And btw, there's already a Jak series thread if you wanna check it out about 1 or 2 pages back.

i enjoyed the prevoius games in these series, but theese are both just spin offs, not leading either story along at all

That's because ND and Insomniac wanted to change around the genre. It's not meant to lead the stories anywhere. And lets face it, the Ratchet games were always pretty lacking in the creative story department. Yeah, they were fun and silly, but they're not like Jak's continuing epic story. The Jak series story is probably the best I have ever seen. It mixes everything in so well. Jak X still has a really good story; no, not like the trilogy's story which was really amazing, but given with what they had to work with, it's still really good and plays out well. Also, Jak X is the best racing game I have ever played, and is definately one of, if not THE best around. Deadlocked is also an extremely good game. I hope I get it for Christmas.