Check it out


http://serpo.org/

It's an interesting story, but there are several aspects that lead me to conclude it's a hoax. For instance, when the author states that Kepler's Laws don't apply to this particular planet...big red flag there. Provides some good entertainment value, though!

another thing is that he says they don't really use TIME on the zeta planet...thats another big red flag being thrown up in the air. How can they possibly conquer intergalactic travelling without using time in math? Thats the dead give away...it's almost impossible to imagine a civilization not using a form of time in their laws of physics.

After reading the whole page this is what i picked up on immediately.....I mean if we want our probes to hit an atmosphere or orbit correctly ...the timing has to be correct to thousands of a second ...doesn't it ?
We'll keep an eye out though to see if those promised photo's of the away team on the planet ever show up

yea, its a great story to read if you ask me...but everything doesn't add up.

Well we developed our own perception of "time". Time is all in your head. Memories are what make up the past. You are just imagining a "future". There is only NOW. Or something like that...




Mind Freak has spoken!

u my friend really need to find a day job.

I read that - or something to that effect- from someone's quote...I forget who...They're new...I don't need a day job, I have a night job.
I want to get a telescope, how much should I expect to pay for something that will allow me to see other galaxies and stuff, anyone know?





Mind Freak has spoken!

Well the next time you dicide to visit Telescopes'R'us take two wheel barrows full of hard earned cash..!

Of course it is, for us.

Mindfreak, if you want to see other galaxies with detail and clarity...you're gonna need the Hubble telescope! Now, if you just want to "see" where things are located then take a look here first.

Here's one similar to mine. A good pair of binoculars is advisable as well. Looking at some constellation charts and getting familiar with the sky is very useful too.

Good Luck, and have fun with it!

The consept of time is hard to understand, you get different answers every time depending on who you ask.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time#Time_in_physics

That was a very cool website, and an interesting read.

My gut tells me that the site is a creative writing project, but who knows...Regardless I had fun reading it. One would assume that if this website were correct, that someone would have shut it down long ago...

I would hope someday that there would be some kind of open contact with life from another planet, but we will have to wait.

Why don't people understand that?

I read that, too. I think it could be believable. I don't know if I believe it, but I bet it's possible.

--Jon

I'm quite sure that Darwin and the laws of physics apply to other planets as well as ours.
If there are other life forms, they are born,live and die.(nothing lasts for ever you know)Their sun rises and sets,seasons,if they are intelligent they should have something that measures the fact that things "changes".

yep .and aliens could also be beaming false info to our probes, if they have the technology?

Hi Guys,

Im new to this forum and have been reading your comments and feedback for the past few days. Ive also been trying to do as much research as one can do on the internet.

I might sound like a complete fool, but if i dont ask then i will be considered more of a fool in my own books. Getting to the point can anyone here verify the integrity of this website
Serpo

Please discuss what you think, also please link any interesting links that may help to show me evidence of ET contacts.

regards
Darkheat

Holy crap, Im doing something nice for somebody, I must be getting sick - click me!

I assume you have read all or most of the comments posted by 'anonymous' and the members of the web site?

Let me outline what Serpo is about first

It is the release of an important recorded history which has been remained secret for over 50 years.

It is gradually being released by an 'anonymous' individual who has access to information regarding the Roswell incident in New Mexico (1947) and related events which have taken place after.

I believe that Project Serpo has corrected the public's general knowledge on the Roswell incident and the whole 'Grey' alien phenomena.

* No, most alien activity on earth is not responsible for the 'greys' - there are seven alien civilisations that are visiting earth. The media have popularised the 'greys' in the public eye to form stereotypes and attitudes towards the alien/UFO phenomena. The entities found in the Roswell incident were not Greys, they were called 'EBENS'.

*There were two alien craft crash sites associated with Roswell, not one. From these crash sites were found alien bodies. One live, reasonably well EBEN was found hiding behind a Boulder near the second crash site. This EBEN was shortly taken in and transfered to Los Alamos in a secret Military Base (most likley underground).

*Contact was made to the EBEN's home planet 'Serpo' with the help of the EBEN's technology recovered from the crash site.

*From the contacts made (after considerable struggle with understanding language) we were able to arrange a meeting with the EBEN's

*Date for contact was changed. Meanwhile, specially trained members of the military were selected 'best of the best' to participate in 'Project Serpo' - mission to planet Serpo - home to the EBEN's.

[I have always said that the media, particularly Films in Hollywood have access to secret information regarding to issues such as the Men in Black... and now, my theory is confirmed]...

*'Anonymous' has confirmed the truth behind the film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' to Project Serpo. There were 12 individuals who participated on the mission to Planet Serpo, and in the film, 12 individuals were carefully selected to go with the ExtraTerrestrials towards the end. There has been debate about it due to the ratio of men and women among the 12 who went to planet Serpo and those in the Film. Anonymous states there were 10 men and two women in the Serpo Mission, however the numbers of women were different in the film. This does not make it dissmissable.

And I think that it just adds more fiction into the ever growing mountain of UFO/alien related fiction we already have!

When 'Anonymous' claimed that Kepler's Laws did not apply...that was a very big *hint* that this was simply fiction.

Thanks for the link

However i have come to a simple conclusion, that is "there are many open minded people, but also if not more so those that are reluctant to keep an open mind about things".

this may or may not be the truth that we seek, however until prove otherwise lets see what the outcome is..

kindly
darkheat

Sure, just claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Some people so love the concept of "open-mindedness" that they will believe just about anything. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who demand evidence before they think something is real.

I know that there is another thread around here on the same topic, but I will add my thoughts here.

I did really like the site...it seems like it could very well be an attempt at some great fictional writing. I enjoyed reading it and thought that it was very well written.

Is it a true story? It is doubtful in my opinion, but I wish it were. Out of all of the paranormal choices out there, I think that UFO's are probably the best chance of being verified in my lifetime...of being substantiated in some manner.

Personally I'd love it if this were a true story, but I am doubtful...

My feelings exactly...

First off, one of the commentors on the first "release" by anonymous never said the EBENS, as the aliens were called, did not have time. What they said was that they measured the passing of time in a different way.

This makes total sense. If the Earth were farther away from our sun, then our years would be longer, and vice versa if were were closer. If Earth were larger, then our days would be longer, and vice versa if Earth were smaller. These would effect the way we measured time. A day would no longer be 24 hours long, and a year would no longer be 365 days. Heck, different Earth cultures didn't always use hours and months and years to measure the passing of time. It seems from the information given by anonymous that the EBENS used a sun dial type device to measure the movement of the sun through their sky and used different marking on this device to indicate when certain things should be done. The team of Earthlings measured the length of the EBEN day to be around 43 hours, a large planet indeed. [Seems the planet was smaller][There are other factors that could contribute to the longer perceived day, chief among them the binary star system the planet of Serop inhabits]

Time is a very relative concept.

I will comment again when I read the reference to Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion.

nice

Thanks, it just annoys me when peope don't really read very well and then comment on it saying, see I caught this and now the story can't be true.

Ah, I see where the "there is not time" thing came from. It is claimed that for an unknown reason, the time measuring devices the team brought with them didn't work on Serpo, the EBEN's planet. I agree that this is fishy and casts a shadow across the whole thing. An explanation of why the devices didn't work would have been better. Maybe the electronics and the gravitational forces exerted on the planet were different in a binary solar system rather than the solitary one of Earth?

I read the whole thing about a month ago... however, there's a ton of inconsistencies. Many of which are pointed out on serpo.org itself. The first once I noticed was that they claim to have only seen families with no more than 2 children. Then later on it goes to say they say families with as many as 4 children.

Personally, I think it's a load of crap. Until I see some pictures (then again, Photoshop is great), then MAYBE, I might believe in it just a little. It's a good read though. Something to keep you occupied for hours.

Yea, it'll keep me entertained at least

I've just read the Dec 21st update ...."we are working on the photo's" .......?
How hard could it be to put up a couple of photo's to kep us interested ?
I dunno about this .....I hate being strung along and finding out it's all a hoax at the end....i just bloody hate that !

I know exactly what you mean, me too! ...

This just plain stinks to me. Forget describing the planet, what about a basic description
of the serpos themselves. Would be nice.
It could be classic misinformation or more likely it's smug skeptics thinking that people who are into Ufology are a bunch of gullible fools.

You mean, ebens?

u guys and gals actually think that if this was top classified informatin that it would actually be allowed to be leaked out? That would be like somebody hacking into the pentigone and gathering up info on nuclear weapons and putting it on the internet. The site would be shut down in a heartbeat. You cannot leak information out forever...u eventually get caught and it it is being "LEAKED" then it means the information isn't supposed to be released to the public yet.

Well, if this were actually top secret information one would think that it wouldn't contain so many obvious errors. It seems pretty clear to me that this is a piece of fictional writing. I wouldn't be surprized to see the author eventually surface and say that he has written a SciFi book about this alien/human exchange program. Actually, not a bad story idea.

Lol yeah the ebens!

or should that be edens.

I sent Project Serpo web site an e-mail. i would like to share with you the response I got:

so there we go the site is just a "dramatic story"

No, that's not what was being said. The reply was saying that the posts, and the story of the exchange program being relayed by Anonymous was dramatic, which it is. This, in no way, is an admission that the whole thing is a work of fiction. Of course, it could be, we'll probably never know for sure.

Good story, starts well as a report but gets a bit subjective, and then starts to sound more like someone telling a story.

Are you sure you have read all the submissions? including the comments, questions and answers as well as consistencies?

Dont conform to other people's comments on this thread. Its ok to make your own decision, even if its completely different to .. 'ooh what brilliantly made up bunch of sci-fi'

There has to be more people out there that dont fit the norms of a sheep ... follow the line -bahh bahhh- follow the same old acceptable opinions.

Well, I read what Anonymous wrote...was completely open to what he had to say, and guess what? Frankly, it didn't take long for me to find several inconsistencies and errors in scientific reasoning (one glaring example being that regarding Kepler's Laws). I didn't need to consult anyone, I followed noone else's opinion (I'm quite capable of making up my own mind).

I read what this fellow had to say, and then I thought critically about what he was telling me, then *I* decided that it was very likely fiction. Sheep mindlessly follow one another, they don't reason critically or think about very much, they live mostly by instinct from what I can see.

You can choose to disagree, but please don't call those who see it differently *sheep*.

No sheep at my end.

Sorry Lilly.

Its just the way people seem to be like in general. Even though there may be inconsistencies (I need to go and check now that you mention it), people should not jump to the conclusion that the whole thing is simply fiction. You cant prove what a person is saying is a whole load of cr*p just because there are flaws in it. I can tell you all a true story about some paranormal experiences and get some flaws in it - does not mean my experiences are made up.

Dont attack the Serpo site in terms of things to do with spelling errors, because we all make spelling mistakes... its ridiculous, I saw someone make a comment earlier on in this thread saying they dont believe the submissions are truthful because they noticed spelling errors.. so what? A highly respectable genius can make a spelling errors.. give us a break!

It just seems to me people are too skeptical. It makes me sick.

When I say 'inconsistencies' I'm not talking about spelling/grammar errors...at all (I consider that type of error to be trival, of little consequence). What I'm talking about are errors in science, basic reasoning, historical corroboration etc. There's enough in Anonymous's accounting that leads me to think that it's likely a piece of fiction.

Example:



No, A planet's orbital sweep would still be around the center of gravity (even of a multi-star system) over a certain time period...Kepler's Laws are still valid in this scenario. Someone who claims 'advanced knowledge' from alien beings capable of galactic travel would know this.

I definately know what you're saying Lilly, and I agree with you to some degree...But our science is based, most solely on our solar system, which only has a singular star system...I believe other galaxies, and solar systems may experience different results in finding universal Laws (that's taking for granted that, intelligent life does dwell somewhere else in this universe)...We have no idea whether our science applies to just us, or everything...We are only beginning to begin to understand what the universe is, and how it acts, and reacts to different situations and circumstances...That's just what I think anyway...Maybe that part about Kepler's Law not applying, is a tell-tale sign of fiction, but...maybe not.

ha ha yeah 'LEAKED' then us mere mortals can have the information.
It's good to cross reference info you read off the net with what you actually know.
This story is crap; end of story. But, your point seems to be " I trust the government, yes sir, I believe them to tell me the truth, but only when I'm ready because I'm such a child,
Thank you"

I doubt most people here have even read the consistencies on Serpo.

Well, there are aspects of general relativity that aren't included in Kepler's Laws. But, they don't call them 'Laws' just on a whim. Now, it's possible that at some place in the universe we may find that certain aspects of physics are incorrect or need to be amended. However, this Project Serpo rendition shows no sign of having any knowledge of physics beyond what we presently know and certainly nothing that will turn physics on it's head a la Einstein's 1905 paper.

Could what Anonymous is saying be the truth? Everything is based on probability...and the probability of it being truthful looks to me to be very low. If I was a betting person, I'd 'bet the farm' that this is a piece of fictional writing. I guess time will tell.