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Cadetak
I was always under the impression that Conspiracy/unexplained mysteries etc. were not something that was brought up in everyday conversation. But today i was at the library and two strangers just started talking to eachother about government conspiracy, at the bus stop a three people were talking about weather changes and revelations, and inside the bus two other guys were talking about a mason conspiracy.

It wasnt even the same "stereotype" it was an old lady, three average men in their 30s to 40s, a latin american foriegner, a middle aged mom, a war veteran, and me.

It seems to me people are becoming more aware of whats going on in the whole "unexplained mysteries/paranormal activity/conspiracy" territory.

With books like The Davinci Code selling huge and movies like The Matrix putting out its weird matrixy sort of message.

I just think its kind of interesting...maybe were not all a bunch of crazies after all...what do u guys think.
spirit_prophet
I think more people are becoming aware with the environment but not so much with gov't conspiracies
Super Pancake
Well what is everyday conversation? And everybody thinks the weather is a conspiracy well at least here in New York.

Yelekiah
It's been everyday conversation for me, unless someone wanted to talk about groceries. ph34r.gif
Piney

I think the internet has made people more informed. As for "more aware" no. People are almost "sensory-retarded" to their surroundings. It is easier to walk up one them without their knowing and they do not notice as much. When I am guiding someone they depend on all this stupid 'outdoors' technology and a deer could smack them on the butt before they see it.

Lapi'che
spirit_prophet
Typical everyday conversation in today's society is like this... How's business, Did you get laid last night?, Who won the game last night, etc.

I think there's a lot less conversations about why JFK got shot and I'm not saying that people don't talk about it, but sports, sex and money seems to be the big deal.

Information regarding conspiracies and aliens is out there, but is ignored at least to your everyday citizen. Global warming is an issue that more and more people seem to be getting, but not quite enough yet. I do believe Aliens exist and that I have seen an UFO, whether it be Aliens or our military technology. The world is kept in the dark about these things because it would scare everyone and everyone lives in fear. I think it would take something "big" to enlighten the World.

Any thoughts?
Wilf
I think it's easier for governments and those in power to 'control' people by keeping them 'fearful' and ignorant.
Super Pancake
^Can you explain how governments can control people easier if they hide things like aliens, bigfoot and other conspiracies from us.

Maybe Aliens exist but I don't think its the government hiding them maybe the Aliens just don't want to contact us yet!

Global warming has been an issue for 30 YEARS if you don't know anything about it, your living under a rock or you just don't care enough to know about it.

Plus all most all conspiracies are just alternative explanations of historical events and most with out any proof. How will society benifet from knowing about them.
Wilf
Hi Super Pancake, I’ll try and be clearer with what I think. In reference to the title of this thread I was just putting a very general opinion across. I am not religious and want to understand the world in which we live in like we all do. The main question people ask throughout their lives is ‘why are we here?’ and that is something I too would like to understand.

My opinion is that a lot of history has been lost (or maybe hidden). Just reading about what the British empire did when invading Australia and America and wiping out whole people’s languages, traditions and cultures and forcing people to think in a different ideology (Christianity or another religion). This has happened throughout time and only concludes to me that this is what happened to my ancestors.

My point is that by keeping people ignorant and with a lack of knowledge much speculation can take place but without ever coming to the real answer. This then makes it easier for those in power to carry on regardless. Take your question about ‘how governments can control people easier if they hide things like aliens’.
Apparently after World War 2 lots of high tech scientific machinery such as Planes (space ships – call it what you like) were found in Germany. The American government took this information and the German scientists back to America to carry on with this research. They wanted to spy on Russia so used these space ships/planes to fly over Russia as they couldn’t be detected. Some Americans saw them and thought they were UFOs. As the government didn’t want Russia to know that they were spying on them they allowed people to believe that they were seeing UFOs.
We have to wait 50 years for information like this to come out but it may show you a small example of what I mean.

By keeping people in fear it is also easier for the government to stay in power. They have learnt this and use the media to leak information, which then the media go over the top and sensationalise and in turn people are left scared and want protecting. The government love this as it then easier for them to pass new laws, which take away human rights.

I lean towards people not being aware (in England we have a 50 year secrets act).
I do not believe in censorship and think that we should have an open and free speaking society.

Look at England we still have a Royal family who are exempted from all the laws, they can basically do as they please most people do not question this and I would like to know why.
spirit_prophet
Global warming has been an issue for 30 YEARS if you don't know anything about it, your living under a rock or you just don't care enough to know about it.


Yes that is true and many people still don't know about it, mainly because they don't watch the news or they think nothing will happen. With the weather we have been having and the melting of glaciers I think it is clear it is starting to affect our World already. Now unless everybody starts polluting and damaging our waters it won't happen for along time. However, it could be our grandkids or greatkids that get the shaft.

But to the issue of people becoming more aware.

Plus all most all conspiracies are just alternative explanations of historical events and most with out any proof. How will society benifet from knowing about them.

That's not true. Some conspiracies regarding the NWO, Aliens, JFK Assasination, and a few others have a lot of signs pointing to yes. The thing is the secret gov't does not want this information out there because the World lives in fear and it would cause chaos. Rant
Super Pancake
QUOTE(Wilf @ Dec 16 2005, 10:19 AM) [snapback]978624[/snapback]

Hi Super Pancake, I’ll try and be clearer with what I think. In reference to the title of this thread I was just putting a very general opinion across. I am not religious and want to understand the world in which we live in like we all do. The main question people ask throughout their lives is ‘why are we here?’ and that is something I too would like to understand.


I understand what you mean about the government keeping things from us. As for your small example which is a very good one, I just want to know what did you want the U.S. government to say that they were spying on Russia a growing threat (hysterical threat in my opinion) of ours at the time. Eventually the truth will come out and in that very same example you also put doubts to conspiracies that the government hide aliens. Which was what I was trying to point out theories or theories for a reason.

As for the royals go french revolution on them "Off with their heads," besides the only reason they still are relevant is because of tradition and religion they are supposedly divine servants of God. And since when did Royals obey the law at any point in history I thought they were the law. Maybe that could shed some light on whatever conspiracy you have about it.

QUOTE(spirit_prophet @ Dec 16 2005, 11:04 AM) [snapback]978664[/snapback]

it could be our grandkids or greatkids that get the shaft.

I agree with that, but I do think more people know what global warming is today. Its just whether we are right about what is causing the changes in the weather is it nature or human. And also its about which side of the argument you support.

QUOTE(spirit_prophet @ Dec 16 2005, 11:04 AM) [snapback]978664[/snapback]

That's not true. Some conspiracies regarding the NWO, Aliens, JFK Assasination, and a few others have a lot of signs pointing to yes. The thing is the secret gov't does not want this information out there because the World lives in fear and it would cause chaos. Rant

You don't need to rant we could have a thoughtful conversation/debate. I used to dig conspiracies when I was in high school, but after a while I just did not find that definitive proof to anything. Signs, symbols, hidden sights they all can be taken out of context. The only conspiracy I find interesting is JFK the only question there is, is who did it? And thats where the conspiracy goes cold in my opinion.
TeraLink
You're absolutely right there. Probably a bunch a conspiracies are indeed correct. The other portion is all lies disgust.gif .

TeraLink Was Here! wink2.gif
Wilf
I agree with what you said. I wrote in my last post that ‘much speculation can take place’ meaning people could have many different interpretations of something and sometimes it could lead to a conspiracy theory. I am not saying that I believe in conspiracies rather that we cannot help but think a certain way with what information we are given (or the lack of information). Of course the U.S government could not let everyone know that they were spying on Russia but then you can understand why people believe that they saw UFOs. Also it helps tourism and therefore financial gain.

Going on the title of this thread ‘are people becoming more aware’ I think only when the Government or those in power want you to be. Remember I come from a place where Royals and Tony Blair are the law.
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Atlantean
I don't think people are becoming more aware of the things we ponder and perceive on this board.

If they were aware, perhaps we could finally get to the bottom of some of these unexplained mysteries. Nothing seems to get done without some sort of popular support.

I agree with spirit_profit that most people are too preoccupied with sex and last night's episode of whatever to be bothered with existential matters as we here on this board are.

This is, after all, why we gather here.

Because we are like minded and we are curious and we don't always necessarily accept the status quo. 99.9999% of the people we all encounter in life are so self-serving that they are not even aware that they are just the lucky benefactors of whatever it was that brought us to this day, travelling 70,000 miles-per-hour through the indescribably harsh and deadly blackness of space, filled with all sorts of nasty things, on a planet, neither of which has any regard whatsoever for our survival.

Once people form their routines in life, most stop thinking and wondering or pondering and instead work, have sex and watch TV.

I am alone in my world when it comes to existentialism and curiousity.

Mr. 420
Remember when that Borg became self aware? You know, Hugh... "Geordi is my friend." 3rd of 5 and stuff.

on topically though people are more or less the same as they always were, just the settings are different. Life's lessons such as patience, commpassion, understanding, ect. still occur through experiance and reflection as they always have. (and the use of psychedelics wink2.gif )

The Nameless One
Sweet, another conspiracy thread Im out.
Bebi
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Dec 16 2005, 07:43 PM) [snapback]979001[/snapback]

.... but I do think more people know what global warming is today. Its just whether we are right about what is causing the changes in the weather is it nature or human. And also its about which side of the argument you support.


I personally believe that the Earth is still in one of it's "warming up periods" after the last ice age. Although saying that I do agree that the use of pollutants is speeding the process up and making it unstable.
Uversa
People are without doubt becoming more aware, or more informed... this is the information age. you can sit at the dinner table and talk about extra terrestrials or the knowledge ancient civilisations had.

100 years ago no-one would ever talk about such taboo topics in such general settings
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