Fallen, did you know we United Stateians (always wanted to use that term) also eat puppies? And drown kittens?

Than u tell me what does it mean if they had nothing to hide they would ask 4 our support and not keep us in dark.

I have read few of your topics on ufo phenomenon see i have seen them on few occasions,while u have not i can not convince u that they are real even if there is so much evidence cause u do not want too see it,i bet u have not opened no more than one link where belivers produced evidence,why,cause u do not want to, u took a stand and do not want to be proven wrong.

See i see that ur sceptic of ufo phenomenon,yet im sceptic as well but of things im being told
while u r sceptical of things they do not tell they are real.

How can you be skeptical of proven facts? Not only do they make more sense than what you apparently believe, they are documented and recorded as having happened. As for the "evidence" the believers produce, it would be some stretch of the imagination to call it that because all it is is a story there is nothing whatsoever to back it up. There was nothing supernatural about world war 2, it was just people killing people

How can you be skeptical of proven facts? Not only do they make more sense than what you apparently believe, they are documented and recorded as having happened. As for the "evidence" the believers produce, it would be some stretch of the imagination to call it that because all it is is a story there is nothing whatsoever to back it up. There was nothing supernatural about world war 2, it was just people killing people

Than u tell me what does it mean if they had nothing to hide they would ask 4 our support and not keep us in dark.

I have read few of your topics on ufo phenomenon see i have seen them on few occasions,while u have not i can not convince u that they are real even if there is so much evidence cause u do not want too see it

i bet u have not opened no more than one link where belivers produced evidence,why,cause u do not want to, u took a stand and do not want to be proven wrong.

Please tell me how embargo works PLEASE!

did u also know that some bilogical weapons were tested on blacks(syphilis) same scenario on Natives(small pox),agent orange on VC"s and a biggest mass murder of all and mass genocide droping atom bombs on CIVILIANS,yet children of these people are today biggest peace makers.Scarry .

Doctor all evidence is imaginary fine im not going to go in the discusion with u on this topic
as im sure u are not going to change your mind no matter what evidence we produce.
I do not fell like repeating my self.Conspiracy is somethinghard to prove u u have to see it for your self it is something covered so well that is hard to explain yet it is present u can fell it.Only u can see it if you choose to see it.

Doctor do you really think that humanity is on the right track cause if u are than lets end our talk here,thank you.

I love selective hearing/seeing of some people here,(only see and talk about what i want to see.)

Yes i did
did u also know that some bilogical weapons were tested on blacks(syphilis) same scenario on Natives(small pox),agent orange on VC"s and a biggest mass murder of all and mass genocide droping atom bombs on CIVILIANS,yet children of these people are today biggest peace makers.Scarry .

Yes i did
did u also know that some bilogical weapons were tested on blacks(syphilis) same scenario on Natives(small pox),agent orange on VC"s and a biggest mass murder of all and mass genocide droping atom bombs on CIVILIANS,yet children of these people are today biggest peace makers.Scarry .

There is a good movie about this tradgedy that is currently out on DVD.

How can you be skeptical of proven facts? Not only do they make more sense than what you apparently believe because all it is is a story there is nothing whatsoever to back it up. There was nothing supernatural about world war 2, it was just people killing people

I've seen Ms Avery's Boys, touching movie, and the whole story was, they didn't give the Vaccine to the African Americans so they died of syphilis when the gov was doing an experiment. Did you also know the Spanish were one of the first to use small pox on Native Americans? (In North and South America). We don't just drop Bio-Chem weapons on civilians just for fun. We hit Military targets that are a big threats as well. Civilians that are killed... It's a sad thing but it happens in war. Did you also know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had some big Military factories and depots in them? They killed 150,000 over time, but saved atleast 3,000,000 lives that would have been loot if the war had gone on because Japan would have fought to the death.

You need to study history more.

The small pox blankets used on Native Americans was by Euros in colonial times, not by the Unites States.

Syphillus was not used on black americans as a bio weapon, a black college conducted a syphillus treatment study with a grant for the US government in which the government did not pay attention to the fact that the college continued with the study and withheld the cure for syphillus after it was found to keep the grant money continuing in for the study that they continued. (There is a good movie about this tradgedy that is currently out on DVD.)

Agent Orange the defoliant was used in areas that affected US troops as well as everyone else. The 1970s was the era of Agent Orange before congress with a parade of one seriously harmed soldier after another being presented.

And finally No. 1 spot for that largest single mass killing of civilians still belongs to Joseph Stalin for 11 million Ukrainians. (Who did not attack Russia unlike the Japanese who did attack the USA)

I love it how u put it was" just "people killing people.Why is killing a JUST,have you accepted it as a reality,i havent.

Why is it ok for USA to drop agent orange on vc yet when Iraq did it to Kurds(im in way trying to justify either)it is a genocide and needs to be punished.

Spanish used it ,inform me, knowingly or accidentaly as i know it was a flu that killed so many as flu was unknown to natives therefore had no imunity to it,while later on North American tribes was used deliberately and with one purpose TO KILL.

About justifying dropping the bombs explain that to Japs i personaly do not buy it as japan had no air force left nor navy why not use economic embargo and stop/force them into surrenedr that way i think that would off beem more humain way of doing it.

WTF? Of cousre people being killed is reality, death is a fact of life. It may be a horrible thing for someones life to be taken but unfortunately it happens every day, in wars it happens on a greater scale and so many lives lost may be hard to accept but yes I have because like it or not it happened terrible though it may be. Deny that and you live in a fantasy world.

Hrm, let's see. The USA used biological weapons against the VC because we were trying to win a war?!?!?! DUH, we didn't just say HEY LOOK, a bunch of civilians, let's kill them. Saddam gasing the Kurds was just out of spite and hate.

Hey u lost the war what about repaying for the demolition u caused,America has a history of not caring about civilian victims u went that far that invented a term thet justifies it COLATERAL DAMAGE.If Sadam gassed the Kurds out of hate what was the reason of Americans destroying Wacco(i want to go into discusion of this topic with u later).

The Spanish did use it knowingly. That's how they defeated the Aztecs so well after they were shoved out of the Capital. That's just one example. Also, American's didn't exsist then. Spanish, French, and some English used small pox knowingly on Native Americans that they consider could turn hostile in a jiffy because they were "savages" and didn't know any better, also just to kill them so they could take their land.

Ok u have the point was it French ,Spanish and English inventors of ,izolated uninhabitable and with poor food resources areas where natives were homed in.

About Japan, obviously you need a history lesson. Pre-1945 Japan was very different from post. They believed in the Imperial Bushido code. Fight to the death not considering the odds. There was no humain way to defeat them. They would have rathered starved to death than let their enemies take them over. Why do you think so many commited suicide when they were captured?
Just because their airforce was crushed and their Navy only had a small fleets of Submarines left, does not mean that the army was not armed to the teeth with every munition let on the Islands. You know what was a popular Japanese way to take out a tank? Hiding along the side of a road and hitting the top of an artillery shell of bomb hard with a monkey wrench when one came near.

If they were going to fight to the end and lived by Warriors code well why didn't they all fought to the end,throwing bombs on them shouldoff made them more commited.
And no Pacific war is not my favourite area as im European a bit i know is from Aussis school and History Chanell,yet it does not mean that im unable to come to conclusions.

See, Fallen, what your problem is, is that you just want to blame America for every little bad thing happening in this world. Even if it had a just reason to save many other lives you just have to go and say, damn... Those Americans just can't stop killing innocent people. When most of the time they aren't as innocent as you think, but your uneducated side says the world is the land that can't defend itself and the USA is the tyrant who burns the land just for the hell of it. Even when the USA doesn't exsist!

If u have accepted killing as reality thats your bad judgment i havent,if it happens every day out of natural causes ok but killing out of interest(money/wealth) or religious beliefs ,yet these two are still around(evidented fact is that most wars were fought over these two) yet we have both around today.
Now someone decides to speak up and say how bad these two really are they get labeled as evil or satanic yet they are good guys 4 protecting it.

U have accepted killing and wars most likely b'cause all u know of wars is from kontroled information sources such as TV and newspapers where there is usually one happy ending at it,,yet i havent as i have lived through one as a teenager and i know that the first victim/casualty of war is truth,i could newer undestand how people could hate my kind just b'cause we crossed our selves different to Catholics,yet on the other place they fought togeteher against Muslims and there were no differeces.CONPIRACY AND MANIPULATION?for u most likely not.

Deny that and u live in fantasy world
well pal i will rather live in a fantasy world than turn into a killer by accepting killing(reasons given)and wrong how would that make me different from them,yet i choose to fight against these manipulators and poison spreaders and their defenders every way i can.

Who are u going to save and bring your way of life when over 80%Americans lives below world powerty line(UN info) when your crime rate is higher than anywhere in the world one of your biggest money makers is weapons you have no room in jails for your criminals
U KNOW WHAT DO US ALL ONE BIG FAVOUR THAT EVERY ONE WILL RESPECT YOUZ MUCH MORE FOR,STAY HOME, PLEASE.!.

We have all seen your trail in Panama,Vietnam,North Africa nowIraq, Serbia and Afghan,
hey if sadam is so bad why the heck did u"z support him during Irak-Iran war,if Taliban is so bad why did u'z support him in the war against Rusia or is the moto just to compete cause your story about helping others is as stable as a chair with 2 legs.

My uneducated side from your point of view is my pride.( 4 deeper answer to this see my answer to doctor)

Lol, 80 percent? High crime rates? Biggest money maker weapons? Obviously you are pulling these last resistant statistics from your arse and not from the UN. That is funny, you're last desperate attempt to try and bash the United States. Our poverty count is about 13.5% of our population just to let you know. (Census) I'm pretty sure the biggest money maker for weapons is Russia, with their Ex-Soviet military just sitting in the surplus warhouses, think how much money could be made off them. Oh, about the crime rates, Dominica leads the world in total crime per capita, with 113.822 per 1,000 people. New Zealand is second with 105.881 per 1,000 people, and Finland is third, with 101.526 per 1,000 people. (wiki)

WIKI is that your source of info he he
And about Saddam, "The enemy of my enemy, is my ally". It was a stable country at the time which we could enforce to kick the soviets out of the middle east. You do know about the cold war right?

Soviets in Midle East only in Afghan which was a part of USSR.
Do your reasearch Fallen, and stop using your idiotic slander to punch below the belt at the USA.

Screw your research all im saying STAY HOME bully nation
on todays day in history 2003 the statement from Bush ssaid the following
America does not need approval of UN to invade Iraq if it jeopardises its national security?
So u put your say above everyone elses they r all wrong n u r right yet u so desperately
wanted allies .I belive that in America the biggest anger was caused when young teenagers took guns and killed fellow student,bulling in most horrific way yet when a nation does it on grand scale than thats justice and democratic.
Look man do not get offencive as im only telling u a side that rest of the world sees America today A BIG BULLY .

I belive i wanted u to touch into Wacco if u sa democratic why were these people there slaughtered maybee b'cause they did not want to be followers of NWO.

Clearly pal u r a model citizen,obedient respectful listens and does everything he is told.

Do u know what i call a punch bellow the belt
a nation,world super power attacking a nation of 8 million after it has been sanctioned and under civil war for 10 years yet again these people saved aMERICAN pilots during WW2
and their first allies in Balkans.Keep going this way and u will lose all your allies not that u have many right now.

Im a SERB, just like u r never going to forget Arabs for 9/11 im never going to forget ur bombs on schools,hospitals train full of civilians and the just born premature babies who
were never given a chance as there was no power for incubators to keep them alive.
( just on much larger scale happened in Iraq,did u know that Iraq had underground chanells(logical as u have to hide your troops somewhere) that were burride alive when someone burried exit shafts with cement,no of course u never seen that on tv and oficial documents)

yet i do not hate u as i know what media was is all i want of u and your kind is to lower
your national pride and learn of respect for others.

WIKI is that your source of info he he

Soviets in Midle East only in Afghan which was a part of USSR.

Screw your research all im saying STAY HOME bully nation
on todays day in history 2003 the statement from Bush ssaid the following
America does not need approval of UN to invade Iraq if it jeopardises its national security?

So u put your say above everyone elses they r all wrong n u r right yet u so desperately
wanted allies .I belive that in America the biggest anger was caused when young teenagers took guns and killed fellow student,bulling in most horrific way yet when a nation does it on grand scale than thats justice and democratic.

Look man do not get offencive as im only telling u a side that rest of the world sees America today A BIG BULLY .

I belive i wanted u to touch into Waco if u sa democratic why were these people there slaughtered maybee b'cause they did not want to be followers of NWO.

Clearly pal u r a model citizen,obedient respectful listens and does everything he is told.

Im a SERB, just like u r never going to forget Arabs for 9/11 im never going to forget

ur bombs on schools,hospitals train full of civilians

yet i do not hate u as i know what media was is all i want of u and your kind is to lower
your national pride and learn of respect for others.

I don't use Wiki unless I read the other websites the info has come from. Wiki is just an easy way to summarize.
Sorry, I did not mean physical Soviet troops in the Middle East, but the influcence. Iran was practically a Soviet Satellite, they funded Iran its war.



So, you wouldn't defend your nation from enemies just because a certain organization doesn't have your approvale?
Please Clearify.
Certain organization just happens to be a representative of rest of the world.


A big bully? I don't really get offended, I just want people to know that we don't kill for fun. There are reasons behind every actions and they all don't have to do with money.
Do you even know how the Waco Siege started? Koresh was raping and abusing children. He led a cult and wanted a authoritarian structure government. This basically means oppression and higher rule of the most extreme extent. They also had a chance to exit the building during the fires, but the people inside chose not to. It's not like the FBI barricaded the doors and lit the place on fire to kill everyone intentionally. The fire was a mistake itself.

you see i see a gap in there if Koresh was raping and abusing children when FBI got there and fire started dont u think that they wouldoff ran and saved them selves yet they choose to stay and die,it does not make much sense to me.
And accusations of rape came from if i remember clearly "two women that were escapees"this evidence could have been easily fabricated.
You wish, I hate Bush, I hate Republicans, I hate the shape of our f*cking country right now. But just because I hate lots of things about the country, does not mean I will make slander or endorse stupid comments to go against my nation.

What is it that u hate with the state that your country is in now?Elaborate!

See, I have learned the term forgive and forget. Just because a certain group of people from an arab nation attacked and killed people on the soil of my country, does not mean that I will blame all arabs for what happened. And anyone who does is pretty dumb in my books.

If u follow my post u will see that my attack was not against u as a people but more against the government,and no do not blame whole nation i always say there is good and bad in every nation.
You blame the USA and not NATO as a whole. Oh, and the genocides and the strict Serbian police had nothing to do with this, we all know Serbia was so innocent.

Let me tell u now first hand info Serbs were never agresors but victims and if u r really interested what really hapened i will be more than happy to provide u with evidence from other side of coin and let u make up your mind,yes bad things did happen but say yes and i will send u so much info that once it starts to make sense u will be glued to your chair for days thinking how is it possible that so much truth was hidden.
Just to say that i grew up in croatia so did my father and gradfather yet in eyes of the world i was agresor who invaded croatia ,and there is a 1600 church that we carried with us when we were invading.

National Pride? Talkin' to the wrong person buddy. And I do have respect for others. I'm 1/4 Hispanic 1/4 white 1/2 black (dutch) go figure. My best friend is Arab and I was born in this nation. I am not spoon fed things by the media. You think that media here is corrupt? Check out your own. See the perspective from other countries besides your own. That's what I do.

HMM Hmmm i would like u to read what u wrote here and see the similarity with what i had to say and i hope u r as u say ur.

A yeah about forgive and forget
yeah me to but only to those who want to be forgiven and who really do everything to make it right again yet doing the same mistake twice does not deserve forgivnes.

Did u know that in largest army camp in Kosovo there is a sign (american army) that says
TO CONQUEST AND TO CONQUER.(this is large flouroscent sign)

you see i see a gap in there if Koresh was raping and abusing children when FBI got there and fire started dont u think that they wouldoff ran and saved them selves yet they choose to stay and die,it does not make much sense to me.

What is it that u hate with the state that your country is in now?Elaborate!

Let me tell u now first hand info Serbs were never agresors but victims and if u r really interested what really hapened i will be more than happy to provide u with evidence from other side of coin and let u make up your mind,yes bad things did happen but say yes and i will send u so much info that once it starts to make sense u will be glued to your chair for days thinking how is it possible that so much truth was hidden.

Did u know that in largest army camp in Kosovo there is a sign (american army) that says
TO CONQUEST AND TO CONQUER.