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molo
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A war of magic vs. science, and science won. How the Illuminati and other secret societies who are really run by aliens pulled the strings and disconnected axis armies from supplies, and how the aliens backed their own side by supplying them with "wonder technology", two alien empires used Earth as a battleground for their own conquering visions of turning Earth part of their empire through the war.
Eerily that article ties with Hitler and his underground travels, nazi antarctic, and moon bases, not too mention all those "wonder weapons" which curiously clouded away post-war.

'Hitler's Inner Circle of advisors met in a secret room and meditated nightly, using magical rituals from their initiations into secret societies.' Hitler hoping not to create a superman race as he fed to his subordinates, but much grander schemes in his mind they could not grasp, to perform a divine creation. The previous Galactic Wars, with the other ancient Atlantian and Lemurian races that fell as a result of the wars, black magic tapped into cosmic forces too dangerous for them such as causing the sinking of Atlantis and other ancient catastrophes. Apparently Hitler had nightly convulsions from meeting with these super psychic forces, abducted and conversing with them!
StalingradK
Would you happen to be a scientologist by any chance?
molo
Sorry i'm german, Roman-Catholic, and don't believe in fake religions...
AnuKabal
interesting.
PLO
"Roman-Catholic"

and u dont beleive in false religion at all in any way shape or form?
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(molo @ Dec 18 2005, 06:24 PM) [snapback]981746[/snapback]

Sorry i'm german, Roman-Catholic, and don't believe in fake religions...


All or most of the BS you posted previously would be denounced by the Catholic church as aliens would call into question many things about God. If you're going to call yourself a Catholic, act like one.
Triad
Our planet is part of the Virgo super cluster and to be clear if there was a place that was farthest away from anything of relevance (we are not talking suburb but essentially backwater) occurring within the context of the Virgo super cluster we are it. Given what it would take to develop a culture capable of interstellar travel (1 million years after industrial revolution) any alien investigation into what happens on Earth would be equivalent to what on Earth results in a National Geographic’s special.

Hitler from the context of alien.gif is a bug; if anything they might be curious in relation to the change from matriarchal to macho leadership but to be clear it’s not a big deal.

Mr Ed
If you have studied World War Two then I think you would have realised that this idea is a complete load of bull.
molo
hmmm possibly.
Vidgange
I don't think that there are any truth in that... Well, Hitler did infact get involved in some ockult society, that had some relationships with the infamous Aleister Crowley... But no Aliens whatsoever wink2.gif
PLO
well, the german air force were going around blowin up flying saucers[which tehy built, no aliens im affraid] when the allies finally got round to invading germany as soon as as much money was possible to be made from the conflict.
hklmvm01
QUOTE(molo @ Dec 18 2005, 06:34 AM) [snapback]980893[/snapback]

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A war of magic vs. science, and science won. How the Illuminati and other secret societies who are really run by aliens pulled the strings and disconnected axis armies from supplies, and how the aliens backed their own side by supplying them with "wonder technology", two alien empires used Earth as a battleground for their own conquering visions of turning Earth part of their empire through the war.
Eerily that article ties with Hitler and his underground travels, nazi antarctic, and moon bases, not too mention all those "wonder weapons" which curiously clouded away post-war.

'Hitler's Inner Circle of advisors met in a secret room and meditated nightly, using magical rituals from their initiations into secret societies.' Hitler hoping not to create a superman race as he fed to his subordinates, but much grander schemes in his mind they could not grasp, to perform a divine creation. The previous Galactic Wars, with the other ancient Atlantian and Lemurian races that fell as a result of the wars, black magic tapped into cosmic forces too dangerous for them such as causing the sinking of Atlantis and other ancient catastrophes. Apparently Hitler had nightly convulsions from meeting with these super psychic forces, abducted and conversing with them!

Nice story but i can't believe this. If that was true i would have been a german i think.
xxsunshinegodxx
Interesting source though, although a lot of what seems to be there has no actual hard evidence to back it up, it seems it is mostly conjecture.

It is always the same message at the end of these things though, and one message that I am a particularly keen believer in, that you make your own destiny! thumbsup.gif
Master of Geeks
I couldn't of haapened no.gif
molo
QUOTE(hklmvm01 @ Dec 19 2005, 08:11 PM) [snapback]982843[/snapback]

Nice story but i can't believe this. If that was true i would have been a german i think.


well if you read the whole story you'd see another side backed the allies, and the germans disturbed order of the societies so they were cut off.
Lord Umbarger
If Hitler had contact with aliens and they gave him all this techno know how, how come he lost the war? No, what happened was that Hitler was a nut. Being a nut, he allowed a lot of nut ideas to be financed. SOme of those nuts were on the right track, most of them were not. Jets= good idea, rockets = good idea, a tank that was too heavy to cross bridges = bad idea. Astrology = ??? Which ones did the aliens inspire?
molo
It says in the article that the secret societies are run by aliens and the ones he attacked who were in other nations cut him off from resources (since it says they gave him all the tech before)
Monarc G
interesting!..but i dont get to see a relation between hitler and aliens.

my opinion
Fallen
It is well known fact that Hitler was into ocultism.
Definitely belived into black magic ,wanted the get Sphere of Destiny and send an expedition to reach Tibetan monks who by the way is said to posses ancient wisdom and are keepers of it
(just look at their figting style and body endurance not to mention level of meditation ).

In some articles you will come across information that they posses ancient technologies/crafts with wich they came to Earth in.

Number of monks were found dead during last battles for Berlin so there might be some connection.

Also nacis were first ones to start building round type crafts.

If Germans had connection with aliens i strongly belive that they were played uot by these entities ,WHY,well personaly belive that time wasnt right.
Right for what i belive total control of world.

Think about it who were the biggest beneficiaries of 2WW .

America,Britain and Russia.

Where did german technolgy go the same technology that gave them superirity at the begining of war(better air crafts,better tanks infratry weapons).
To allies.

I belive that America also had contact with these creatures and that pushing Germany in toa war made everyone else weak while they had time to keep advancing.
America only fought small Naval Aerial and just few land wars entill late stages of war.

I would not be suprized if Russians are controled by them.
So much was spent on weapons and technology during cold war and it newer happen,again my opinion this is some part of their master project.

Molo i have read a lot on your topic and belive that there is a connection.



Nadal
QUOTE(molo @ Dec 20 2005, 06:48 PM) [snapback]984992[/snapback]

well if you read the whole story you'd see another side backed the allies, and the germans disturbed order of the societies so they were cut off.


If you knew anything about the Germans and Axis, you'd know that -they- had much better technology than the allies, the allies just had numbers. German scientist invented the first plans to a stealth bomber, made the first war-helicopter, made one of the best fighter jets during that time which included four types of rockets: Wire guided, hit-on-impact, thermal, and guided missles. The Soviety Union probably stole plans of their equipment, not made it themselves. The Germans had been plotting a take-over since the early 30's giving Nazi Scientist time to invent such things and learn to how certain wing types resistent to wind-aerial pressure build up. If anything, the 'aliens' were on the Axis side. Also, they had many superior land vechicles, also invented bullet-proof glass for their Kübelwagen's. There superior light-armoured recon vechicle: SdKfz 222 was quite amazing aswell. A long side their light-armoured tank, the Puma. One of the first designs for a APC that we see in the military today. The Heavy-armourd tank, PzKpfw VI "Tiger", was a behemoth to most allied tanks and could easily pierce their armour Moved at 38.9 Km/per hour with a arnament of 88mm KwK 36 L/56
2 x 7.92mm MG34. Along side their tank-hunter, the Jagdpanzer which was pretty devastating.



Fallen
QUOTE(Nadal @ Feb 24 2006, 12:44 AM) [snapback]1074980[/snapback]

If you knew anything about the Germans and Axis, you'd know that -they- had much better technology than the allies, the allies just had numbers. German scientist invented the first plans to a stealth bomber, made the first war-helicopter, made one of the best fighter jets during that time which included four types of rockets: Wire guided, hit-on-impact, thermal, and guided missles. The Soviety Union probably stole plans of their equipment, not made it themselves. The Germans had been plotting a take-over since the early 30's giving Nazi Scientist time to invent such things and learn to how certain wing types resistent to wind-aerial pressure build up. If anything, the 'aliens' were on the Axis side. Also, they had many superior land vechicles, also invented bullet-proof glass for their Kübelwagen's. There superior light-armoured recon vechicle: SdKfz 222 was quite amazing aswell. A long side their light-armoured tank, the Puma. One of the first designs for a APC that we see in the military today. The Heavy-armourd tank, PzKpfw VI "Tiger", was a behemoth to most allied tanks and could easily pierce their armour Moved at 38.9 Km/per hour with a arnament of 88mm KwK 36 L/56
2 x 7.92mm MG34. Along side their tank-hunter, the Jagdpanzer which was pretty devastating.

Proves my point however technological advantage went to allies in second part of war.
Coicidence or controled move,it does not seem so hard when u hold all major players in your hands.
Nadal
My point was: "That's way-out there, I highly doubt any E.T's helped the Nazi's or the Allies. The Nazi's had brilliant scientist who found many things to aerial-craft. They'd been preparing for war for around 2 decades. There's nothing abnormal in WW2. You underestimate the human mind.
Naes
This is probobly one of the funniest stories I have ever heard. You guys have the craziest theories of why WW2 was started! I think that the spirits got mad at the Garlonians (which are the aliens the colonized Inner Eather and are plotting to conquer Outter Eath) for attacking the loch ness monster before Big Foot could help him. So they decided the posses hitler and build 1,000 flying saucers and fly to Azlastaz the Garlonians homeworld and bomb everything. The the Garlonians crashed at Area 51 and told them the whole story and teamed up against the Nazies and the spirits and fight for justice. And that is why WW2 started. Thank you.
P.S. To those of you who have your theories, I wasn't trying to say anthing offencive, just having fun.

Naes
Fallen
QUOTE(Nadal @ Feb 24 2006, 07:54 AM) [snapback]1075649[/snapback]

My point was: "That's way-out there, I highly doubt any E.T's helped the Nazi's or the Allies. The Nazi's had brilliant scientist who found many things to aerial-craft. They'd been preparing for war for around 2 decades. There's nothing abnormal in WW2. You underestimate the human mind.

There is nothing abnormal about WW2.
Germans had been pereparing for war for two decades
Exactly my point,why were they allowed to do so if Versaille threaty forbid them from such.
I do underestimate human mind and why shoulnt i when they are creating so much negativity.
Just look at the ratio of negative inventions to positive.
If Jews were guilty why not just deal with them?
Fallen
QUOTE(Naes @ Feb 24 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]1076335[/snapback]

This is probobly one of the funniest stories I have ever heard. You guys have the craziest theories of why WW2 was started! I think that the spirits got mad at the Garlonians (which are the aliens the colonized Inner Eather and are plotting to conquer Outter Eath) for attacking the loch ness monster before Big Foot could help him. So they decided the posses hitler and build 1,000 flying saucers and fly to Azlastaz the Garlonians homeworld and bomb everything. The the Garlonians crashed at Area 51 and told them the whole story and teamed up against the Nazies and the spirits and fight for justice. And that is why WW2 started. Thank you.
P.S. To those of you who have your theories, I wasn't trying to say anthing offencive, just having fun.

Naes

My dear friend
i would now like u to give me your version besides the one u have been thought at school and
different to one given.
No offence but i would just like to se if u prepare your own food or if u eat it served to u.( yes.gif
Naes
QUOTE(Fallen @ Feb 24 2006, 07:18 AM) [snapback]1076792[/snapback]

My dear friend
i would now like u to give me your version besides the one u have been thought at school and
different to one given.
No offence but i would just like to se if u prepare your own food or if u eat it served to u.( yes.gif

I make it, though I would like to have it served to me, that would be vary conviniant (sorry about the spelling). But I believe that it happend because Hitler tried to take over the world, very interesting theory though.
Stellar
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My dear friend
i would now like u to give me your version besides the one u have been thought at school and
different to one given.
No offence but i would just like to se if u prepare your own food or if u eat it served to u.(


What if the one taught at school is the true version?
krichter33
rolleyes.gif
Fallen
QUOTE(Naes @ Feb 25 2006, 06:33 AM) [snapback]1077250[/snapback]

I make it, though I would like to have it served to me, that would be vary conviniant (sorry about the spelling). But I believe that it happend because Hitler tried to take over the world, very interesting theory though.

Now think of the food as knowledge.
You have told me that you like to be told what the truth is rather than finding it out for your self.
Remember truth is always somewhere in between both sides of stories.

And winners creaters history,honestly if japs somehow won the war what would happen to those who ordered and executed Hirishima and Nagasaki bombing.
Fallen
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 25 2006, 07:31 AM) [snapback]1077330[/snapback]

What if the one taught at school is the true version?

original.gif original.gif True is that wars are ugly and (having seen one my self)i learned that first casualty of war is truth.
If i told u that Iraq monetary unit was stronger than $ and pound would u belive me,most likely not,and now is worthless,so what was the true reason for war terrirism or money?
The Doctor
Let's look at it this way: which version makes more sense the one we were all taught at school with real technology and weapons which do exist and were well within the capabilities of the human race at the time, or the other version with aliens, secret societies and magic for which there is no real evidence at all hmm.gif
Fallen
QUOTE(The Doctor @ Feb 27 2006, 12:39 AM) [snapback]1080154[/snapback]

Let's look at it this way: which version makes more sense the one we were all taught at school with real technology and weapon which do exist and were well within the capabilities of the human race at the time, or the other version with aliens, secret societies and magic for which there is no real evidence at all hmm.gif

Just one senetence for you.
NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY.
The Doctor
What do you mean? No one dares call WW2 a conspiracy?
Fallen
No real evidence that Germany was pushed into a war,no prove that there are secret societies,no proof that there are no alliens well of course that there is not cause u dont want to see either cause u are scared of truth or just plain ignorant. angry.gif
The Doctor
QUOTE(Fallen @ Feb 26 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1080167[/snapback]

No real evidence that Germany was pushed into a war,no prove that there are secret societies,no proof that there are no alliens well of course that there is not cause u dont want to see either cause u are scared of truth or just plain ignorant. angry.gif

Orite yeh, the evidence exists just not for me because I'm too blind to see it rolleyes.gif And since when has believing in the facts of what really happened been ignorant? I would glady accept evidence of aliens or magic in a theory that made any sense.
Oh and in a way Germany was pushed inti the war, from the inside out so to speak as it was Hitler and the Nazis who made the first military moves in the war. He was proabaly planning it all along how else did he help Germany's economy recover after the Wall Street crash, a war economy means jobs for everyone.
Stellar
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You have told me that you like to be told what the truth is rather than finding it out for your self.


What if he found out that the truth is what we are told?

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If i told u that Iraq monetary unit was stronger than $ and pound would u belive me,most likely not,and now is worthless,so what was the true reason for war terrirism or money?


Depends. Who are you refering to? If its the people, I can tell you that the people didnt support it simply for money...

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NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY.


Its not a conspiracy, its a conspiracy theory.

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No real evidence that Germany was pushed into a war,no prove that there are secret societies,no proof that there are no alliens well of course that there is not cause u dont want to see either cause u are scared of truth or just plain ignorant.


Oh really? Then please, oh enlightened one, show us all this evidence you speak of.
Nadal
No evidence that there's no proof of Germany being pushed into war? Er...they didn't get "pushed" they "charged" into war lead by Adolf Hitler.
The Doctor
QUOTE(Nadal @ Feb 26 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1080219[/snapback]

No evidence that there's no proof of Germany being pushed into war? Er...they didn't get "pushed" they "charged" into war lead by Adolf Hitler.

What I just said tongue.gif
Nadal
Whoopsey, I'm very timid when it goes to reading post. original.gif
Fallen
QUOTE(The Doctor @ Feb 27 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]1080178[/snapback]

Orite yeh, the evidence exists just not for me because I'm too blind to see it rolleyes.gif And since when has believing in the facts of what really happened been ignorant? I would glady accept evidence of aliens or magic in a theory that made any sense.
Oh and in a way Germany was pushed inti the war, from the inside out so to speak as it was Hitler and the Nazis who made the first military moves in the war. He was proabaly planning it all along how else did he help Germany's economy recover after the Wall Street crash, a war economy means jobs for everyone.

A war economy means jobs for everyone,yeah positive thinking,jobs for everyone to support the destruction,what were all these people producing during the war r u trying to tell me than a country/system can actually benefit from the war,yeah if u r calculated and cold and money means a world to you.

And if i take food from my table and all other life needing elements u leave me no choice but to go into a war,as i said winners have created history,how much af german side do u know or is that wrong and u dont even want to lak at.
Fallen
QUOTE(Stellar @ Feb 27 2006, 01:37 AM) [snapback]1080208[/snapback]

What if he found out that the truth is what we are told?
Depends. Who are you refering to? If its the people, I can tell you that the people didnt support it simply for money...
Its not a conspiracy, its a conspiracy theory.
Oh really? Then please, oh enlightened one, show us all this evidence you speak of.

Than what did they support it for WORLD PEACE yeah everywhere uz went in the name of God and peace u have left blood shed.U can not tell me different as i read your profile quote .

"None dare call it conspiracy "is a book writen by Gary Allen,read than we can continue.
Why is it every time u hear a word conspiracy u always say or add theory behind it.

Last bit im just not going to waste my time answering it,partly cause u will see it for yor self once completed reading the book in upper topic.
The Doctor
QUOTE(Fallen @ Feb 28 2006, 03:24 AM) [snapback]1083094[/snapback]

A war economy means jobs for everyone,yeah positive thinking,jobs for everyone to support the destruction,what were all these people producing during the war r u trying to tell me than a country/system can actually benefit from the war,yeah if u r calculated and cold and money means a world to you.

Actually I didn't say I support that point of view, it's just a fact and yes the winners of a war do benefit from it and I'm talking about the leaders of a country not the soldiers who go out and die.
Stellar
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And if i take food from my table and all other life needing elements u leave me no choice but to go into a war,as i said winners have created history,how much af german side do u know or is that wrong and u dont even want to lak at.


Huh?

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Than what did they support it for WORLD PEACE yeah everywhere uz went in the name of God and peace u have left blood shed.


Uz? And who do you mean by "uz"? No, "we" did not go anywhere in the name of god, we went in the name of helping others.

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U can not tell me different as i read your profile quote .


What does my profile quote have to do with anything?

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Why is it every time u hear a word conspiracy u always say or add theory behind it.


Because until its supported by any decent proof, all it is is a belief. I'm already being quite generous calling it a "theory" instead of a belief.

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Last bit im just not going to waste my time answering it,partly cause u will see it for yor self once completed reading the book in upper topic.


BS. You're not going to answer it because you cant.
Fallen
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 1 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1084401[/snapback]

Huh?
Uz? And who do you mean by "uz"? No, "we" did not go anywhere in the name of god, we went in the name of helping others.
What does my profile quote have to do with anything?
Because until its supported by any decent proof, all it is is a belief. I'm already being quite generous calling it a "theory" instead of a belief.
BS. You're not going to answer it because you cant.

Youz ,why ask when below u answered it u knew what i was refering to,
helping others he i have seen your helping others by bombing schools,hospitals bridges economic embargos where u take food of people and than when weakened then attack them.
Would u like someone to help u in that way?

Conpiracy,what does it mean,a person or a group of people planing in secret, now if it in secret u dont expect me to walk in a book store and find proff ,a plain thief knows to cover his wrong doing,let alone a number of educated minds who plan for decades .They would want to have cover story wouldn"t they.

Do not tell me that u havent heard of Masons ,Iluminatis,Order of Maltese Knights,above all i should have put church in the first place.

Just the fact that they are secret should be enough to tell u that they must be conspiring isnt it.
Dont worry i didnt hear of above mentioned ones at your age ,remember,u will see a different picture in a decade or so.
Stellar
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Youz ,why ask when below u answered it u knew what i was refering to,


No, I dont know what you're refering to. I understand that "uz" meant "you" but I'm wondering who do you specifically mean? Because we never went anywhere in the name of god...

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helping others he i have seen your helping others by bombing schools,hospitals bridges economic embargos where u take food of people and than when weakened then attack them.


Go ahead. Show me examples. Its not economic embargos that take food from the people, btw, its the leaders.

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Would u like someone to help u in that way?


If I was in need for help, I would, because I'd realise that, although there would be collateral damage, it would majoritarily be helpful.

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Conpiracy,what does it mean,a person or a group of people planing in secret, now if it in secret u dont expect me to walk in a book store and find proff ,a plain thief knows to cover his wrong doing,let alone a number of educated minds who plan for decades .They would want to have cover story wouldn"t they.


And whats your point?

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Do not tell me that u havent heard of Masons ,Iluminatis,Order of Maltese Knights,above all i should have put church in the first place.


I have. What's your point?

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Just the fact that they are secret should be enough to tell u that they must be conspiring isnt it.


No it does not. And if it did, what's your point?

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Dont worry i didnt hear of above mentioned ones at your age ,remember,u will see a different picture in a decade or so.


Really? Then I guess I'm just more informed than you were...
Fallen
To summon it all up my point being
u see a world in black and white
u like to have ur food served.

More informed maybee but with what info the one they have been feeding it 2u.
Fallen
[quote name='Stellar' date='Mar 2 2006, 07:32 AM' post='1085711']
No, I dont know what you're refering to. I understand that "uz" meant "you" but I'm wondering who do you specifically mean? Because we never went anywhere in the name of god...
Go ahead. Show me examples. Its not economic embargos that take food from the people, btw, its the leaders.
Yeah they eat it all them selves
If I was in need for help, I would, because I'd realise that, although there would be collateral damage, it would majoritarily be helpful.
Typical brain washed American.


No it does not. And if it did, what's your point?
And what does it say 2u if someone is doing something in secret,hear your self PLEASE!
Stellar
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u see a world in black and white
u like to have ur food served.


Yes, I see the world in black and white, simply because I disagree with you. rolleyes.gif

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Yeah they eat it all them selves


rolleyes.gif Have you any clue about how embargos work?

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Typical brain washed American.


Smart... considering I'm not american...

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And what does it say 2u if someone is doing something in secret,hear your self PLEASE!


It doesnt mean they are conspiring, nor does it support your belief about WW2.
StalingradK
Fallen, did you know we United Stateians (always wanted to use that term) also eat puppies? And drown kittens?
Fallen
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 4 2006, 08:06 AM) [snapback]1088886[/snapback]

Yes, I see the world in black and white, simply because I disagree with you. rolleyes.gif

rolleyes.gif Have you any clue about how embargos work?
Yes and i have first hand not information but experience,i have lived it through it,and u where did u get your info on TV.
Smart... considering I'm not american...
You definitely behave like one,maybee a Briton.
It doesnt mean they are conspiring, nor does it support your belief about WW2.
Than u tell me what does it mean if they had nothing to hide they would ask 4 our support and not keep us in dark.

I have read few of your topics on ufo phenomenon see i have seen them on few occasions,while u have not i can not convince u that they are real even if there is so much evidence cause u do not want too see it,i bet u have not opened no more than one link where belivers produced evidence,why,cause u do not want to, u took a stand and do not want to be proven wrong.

See i see that ur sceptic of ufo phenomenon,yet im sceptic as well but of things im being told
while u r sceptical of things they do not tell they are real.

Please tell me how embargo works PLEASE!
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