Why do many christians still call Pagans devil worshippers.





Ankh udja seneb(life, prosperity, and health)

That is a common mistake here in the bible belt.

the oversimplified answer would be ignorance. what they do not know is "evil" or the enemy, and since "the devil" is the enemy in their mythology, you must be in his service because in the this oversimplified myth world of only two sides "you are either with us or against us" as JWB put it once.

the other part of ignorance is that many christians grew up christian in a christian community, going to christian laced schools, ect. In other worlds, "the world" to them is christianity, so they have difficulty with anything being from outside that world, and since they know nothing of it, it is easy to just think "it does not follow what i do, so it must follow the only thing i know of that is against what i follow".

that what I was thinking, I've been caled devil worshipper too many times.



Ankh udja seneb

And that's not really fair, but I have to agree with hyper. People tend to call others devil-worshippers as a reaction, in my opinion. Particularly when they are confronted with their own ignorance.

They should call you an Angel you hunt wendigos and other evil spirits.

Anyway I agree with hyperactive, plus the christians are/used to be pagan out of their asses with Christmas, Easter, and many other medieval holidays they used to celebrate in the past.

Srry Jek was the angel, I'm Jalek the hunter:D





Ankh udja seneb

Only pagans or all non christians? I have noticed that quite a few consider other rival religions to be attempts by the devil to dissuade us from Christianity...

more commonly pagans.

I know what you mean, I am told I worship the devil a lot too. I have a bad habit of turning it around on them. "Funny he's not in my panthon of Gods, but he sure seems to be in yours." I am forever band from my son's inlaw's house for statements like that. No great loss there.
You have to give them good come backs. It is not hard, unless they catch me on a bad day then it can get ugly. I live for christians to ask me if I have found Jesus. Then I get to tell them "Why have you lost him, did you look behind the sofa? You should really keep better track of your Gods."
Anybody got good come backs.

In all honesty, I did not even know what a Pagan was until I started reading this forum. The only things I knew about Paganism were things I saw in movies (which are not always flattering). I did not even realize that Paganism goes back farther than Christianity, until recently. Now that I have been reading up on it a little here and there, it is actually very interesting.

So, I guess my answer were be lack of knowledge. And for those who sling hateful comments about what they do not know about, hate and fear would be my guess.

Darkwind,

That is truly sad about your son-in-law. I can kind of relate, my in-laws actually called me Satan's Spawn and have disowned my husband and our children, because I do not agree with their specific organized religion. It is very sad. My kids will miss out on grandparents (but I am glad they will not be around to witness the hate). I hope you do not miss out on your grandkids. I don't understand people sometimes.

Amy

It's basicly like that wit everyone on my dad's side of the family.

Em hotep

Hmm, I've never understood this myself. Having not grown up in a Christian household, I was never told Pagan's were devil worshippers. It isn't really a topic I speak of too often with my Christian friends really, so I don't know their stance on it.

It does seem strange though that Christians would think of them as "devil worshippers", since paganism has nothing to do with the devil.

But this is just my opinion.

Regards, PA

They are my son's in-laws and they are his problem. Since there are no grandkids yet the problem has not come up, but I don't think there will be a problem. My daughter-in-law is cool, she is respectful of my Path. When I apologized for my behavior at her Birthday she laughed and said her Dad had it coming.
Christian hate, sounds kind of funny. Your in-laws are fools. Like you say you don't want your children around that kind of hate. Maybe they will come round when they realize what they are missing. I would keep in touch with them, but guard your children well from them.

Sorry about that, Darkwind!

I read the post a little fast and misinterpreted who you were talking about! I am glad you get along with your daughter-in-law, family is very important. I just wish my in-laws (who are supposed to be about God, religion and kindness) would practice a little more of what they preach. It is not pleasant explaining to a 6-yo why Grandma and Grandpa don't come over anymore.

It amazes me how some let religious differences turn them bitter and hateful. More and more lately, I find myself turning away from "organized religion" and investigating more calm and peaceful paths.

"Pagan" is Latin for villagers. Most of the people in the outlying areas were subsistance farmers who lived in villages. It was a way for the urban x-tians of antiquety to put down the people who were not "sophistocated city dwelling X-tians", basically. It's sort of like why we still make fun of "rednecks", "hicks" and "hayseeds". They were generally less well educated and generally followed what was, at the time, a more simple faith.

As more people became literate, X-tianity became the faith of the less well educated. Now we tend to use phases like "bible-thumpers", to describe X-tians with the same relative education in relation to the majarity of society.

The implication is that they are too dumb to know any better so they stil believe in that hokey religeon.

Basically, to call someone a "pagan" originally meant that they were a simple minded, uneducated underling. In modern societies, that has changed. Today, "Pagan" generally means a person who follows a more nature based belief system.

The less informed still use the term as a perjorative noun for anyone who is not a member of thier church though. It would seem as though the worm has finally turned.

Perhaps I am not the best person to answer this question. PM SilverCougar.

Never mind. Edited post, I misread the above post. What I put was irrelevant.

Uneducated Christians might say that. =P

So what would an educated Christian say about a rival religion or belief when it clearly says the devil will deceive the people with false gods and beliefs?

^^I think worshipping the devil, and being deceived by the devil are somewhat different, don't you?

but their still gods from the DEVIL! So thier worshiping devil gods!






























Yeah I know I beating a dead horse.

I did not know. So I asked once. I recieved this answer.

How can I worship the Devil- when that is a thing made up in Christianity.

I said Oh okay.

Then we talk about religion etc all day and everyday.

I don't think in no way that people should just assume. I think they should ask and find out.

Assume what?

You dead horse beaterer you

That any non Christian worships the devil.

How do we know unless they say they worship him. And really who worships Lucifer? I have never heard of this.

Oh.

And He was a greek or roman god, but that could have been a coicidence. Maybe not.

Oh yes I remember- The king of the dead- hades.

Duh?

Lucifer is not the king of the dead, something to do with the light or sun.

well didn't they say Lord of the Dead is Hercules? lol

It is light the angel of light- something like that. That is why it gets confusing with Let your light shine for Jesus? Well if satan is the angel of light. Hmm.

actually the word 'lucifer' was used as a name for the evening star, by the romans. we now know that star as venus, but in roman times they dubbed it 'lucifer'. Lucifer wasn't mentioned in the OT and only in the NT, wonder why... .

so yeah, just another thing the early christians 'borrowed' for you.

The same can be said of the 'War in Heaven'.

somethings are not meant to be taken literally, and even some of my die-hard christian friends agree with me there.

Back when I was living in Kemet, the muslims kept saying I was trying to bring back the false gods of Earth.





Ank udja seneb

when i was in the southern US i heard the same "false god" rhetoric about environmentalists. being an evironmentalist i laughed.

remember, these religions (abrahamics) were designed for the conquest og the earth.

I myself am pagan, but I don't belive in any form of a god or goddess.
First off pagans don't belive in a devil, or they shouldn't, so how can we worship that in which we don't belive.
My advice is ignore them, do not let them affect you. I know it's hard, but building up that wall is an important thing to do. Let's their pathetic insults make you laugh and just send them right back.
I don't mean call them names back, just send back the bad chi.

-Lilithica

Whatever name you choose to use for the Devil, he IS in the Old Testament. Remind me, who was it that was tormenting Job (for example)?

And when I was in Sydney (oops still am there) - oh well) I was accused of following a false God



Regards, PA

Oh no not you PA!

easy answer:

because according to the Bible everything that is not In God, For God or With God are devilish (including technology (if not in His office), all types of leisure (if not With god) and paganism)

or

you are worshiping other gods and especially if they have a figure (like almost all non-monotheistic religions) that's the ultimate sin



oh and of course usually u guys like doing big orgies or making sacrifices or dancing naked in the woods and the church doesn't think thats civilized

sori I bad inglich

Gee, I must have miss the big orgie, would you like to point this Pagan in the direction of that big orgie, BBQ, and the naked dancing.

Somehow, I have trouble picturing some of the famous men of my religion (Deism), like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Tom Paine doing big orgies, making sacrifices or dancing naked in the woods...After all, we Deists would be considered pagans!

I do all those things and I'm Christian[Well... unitarian]!

actually lucifer is the angel, satan is the devil. they've been branded seperate names, as if they are different people. I'm not entirley sure if they are, but the readings make it seem like that.

Isn't the devil an angel?

I thought Lucifer was just a mistranslation
When did fallen angels become demons-in what religion?

just that now-a-days people are taught that devils and demons are in hell and the angels in heaven. at least I was.

hm, and i did'nt know lucifer was a mistranslation. xD I guess I now know of two mistranslations, the number of the beast and lucifer. what was the actual translation, do you know?

Lucifer is Latin and the Bible was written in Hebrew that's why. Lucifer was a human king I think.

I believe that hell is just a grave. And that these "Demons" are just angels rebelling against God[Satan and his peeps].

oohhh, yeah, a few posts back i explained that. lucifer was the name of the evening star. which we now know as venus. but yeah, it could have also have been a king.

I'll get a link and post it as an edit, just to see if that human king info is accurate or not.
edit: http://www.biblebasicsonline.com/english/S...D19Lucifer.html
http://www.xenos.org/classes/principles/cpu4_satan_1.htm