Bush said: 'God said to me, attack Afghanistan and attack Iraq.' The mentality of Mr. Bush and Mr. Ahmadinejad is the same here - both think God tells them what to do," says Mr. Mohebian, noting that end-of-time beliefs have similar roots in Christian and Muslim theology.



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I got the same message the other day from god also...i support bush and his beliefs. and if you lie in america and don't like what he is doing...then get out of america, and go move to another country.

God told me to attack afganistan and iraq, and if you dont like it... then you can get the hell out!!!!!!!!!!

listen to yourself.


Summary of Intent:

It has now been publicly revealed that Bush feels he is being led by god. At the same time, the president of Iran is , [an enemy of Bush, and I would expect, Bush's god], is claiming that he is being led by god, against the political zionist such as bush.

Two gods? no. Someone lying? maybe. Or maybe god wants the two to destroy each other? who can know?

Yes... crazy as it may sound... God talks to me all the time... You have to have a relationship with him before you can hear him!

Now im going to educate you. The reason we are here in the USA is because we wanted to escape christian execution. So we create a few boats and landed on plymouth rock...this country was built on the belief of GOD. So how about you just take your little self to another country...because surely most american's don't want your kind here in the first place. If bush is such a bad president then why did he get elected for a 2nd term? LOL come on now you need to really turn that light bulb on above your cranium before the bulb cracks from brain strain.

god doesnt talk. he communicates. i heard from a little angel that humans can not comprehend the true voice of god.
In the bible it says if god wishes to speak to a soul, he will send a messenger, or send the soul a dream.

But if I am wrong, does god sound like morgan freeman????


No No No, everyone talks to god. God exists through the holy spirit(the force), and is parrallel to your super-ego (jimminy cricket/ conscious). Maybe?


why are you people playing my oposition anyway?

maybe you just want to type, because I never called bush a bad president. Who is my kind since you know me so well?


my nonrelavent personal views.------------------------------------
Oh and let me educate you about a lil somethin somethin. George Bush used the christian party to win the election in 2004, then he took the nation to war, and declared a crusade.
He has good intentions, but he is using military force to achieve his will. This is just like the crusades, but the power scale is tipped and the technology is mindblowing.

George Bush aslo spies on American citizens who have a moral opposition to his political agenda. He left Katrina victims out to dry for days, with no air support at all. He is skull and bones and a supporter of PNAC, which is a public organization that believes that America's views are not only good for America, but for the entire world, and the ultimate agenda of these political idealist is a one world government at any cost, even if it is the lives of billions of human beings. This is their dogma and it is not debatable. The practicers of this dogma usually get the name neocon.

On top of that Bush constantly uses rhetoric and bunk information to pump up public support.

and this too. i like this quote.

The great Abraham Lincoln says, “Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.”

Now this is where you are wrong...i assume you didn't know that we were attacked here in america on 9/11 by terrorist highjackers on 4 planes. hmmm so you are saying we shouldn't have wwent to war...are saying that we shoudn't be spying on american's for the safety of our own country? Are you also saying that Iraq's leaders don't want us in Iraq? Because if this is what you are saying you should really get a grip of government propoganda. An old philosopher once said this "The government only lets it's people know what they want them to know" go to your library and get a book that tells you how to make a atomic bomb and then try to make one....I bet you that your end result will be a bomb that isn't atomic...nor a bomb at all.

There goes that argument

Having principles, no matter Where they come from, automatically makes you crazy.

Iraq did not attack the United States !

Well said Celumnaz!!!

PLEASE READ EVERYTHING I SAY: I WILL NOT ARGUE THE BASIS FOR MY BELIFS, B/C THE AMMOUNT OF INFORMATION REQUIRED TO CONVINCE SOMEONE IS BEYOND MY WRITING AND ORGANIZING CAPABILITIES.

I believe that Bush and his administration let 9/11 happen, so bush could attack afgan and iraq. i belive that we attacked these counties for no great reason other than to gain military positioning for the major conflicts to come.I believe 911 was a political move to gather the support of america to send us to war despite the disaproval and non cooperation of the world. I do not believe that Bush is the source of 911, i believe the warnings were purpously ignored.

I believe in the illuminati and its continued existance through character building programs such as freemasonry, nights of templar, pnac, skull and bones, and other various organization.

I am an american and love my country, but i do not believe we are the best or freest country, I believe there are other countries with more freedoms that do not insist on forcing their will on poorer and less powerful governments.

I believe that there are people who are not pro-country, but intend to fool the masses of everycountry to set up a united one world governemnt. I know these people exist, because they exist publicly.


I believe that the individuals who have unjustly and mistakenly called me out today do the world an injustice by not considering the opposition, and blindly trusting your government.

All humans are the same people, the same soul. War is just the product of the people who do not understand this truth.

ALL THESE THINGS I HAVE SAID ARE GENERAL STATEMENTS. I HAVE NO INTENTION OF BACKING THEM UP WITH SOURCES, BECAUSE IM TIRED AND HUNGRY AND THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE CAPABLE OF HELPING ME OUT. PLUS, ALL THIS INFORMATION AND SUPPORTING INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND THROUGHOUT THIS WEBSITE.


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I agree . . . . and so I listened when God told me to get out because Bush is a wacko and thinks He is speaking with him.

But does he tell you to attack sovereign nations and slaughter an innocent populace?

Maybe because of people like you . . . . but then, if there had not been an incredible amount of corruption, cheating, manipulations and fraud at the first election, your point would be moot.

God tells me "......." Becuase god doesn't tell anyone jack. God didn't tell Bush anything. Bush is just messed up on his life of Drugs and alcohol abuse. When you hear god talk, it's yourself. Looks like I need to find a more educated country. Because you make America look like crap saying that, America wasn't based on "G.O.D" It's based on freedoms. By telling me I don't belong here because I don't worship your Christian god is racist and non-american. So it's you that needs to go back!

Principles? Principles?? I'm talking about George Bush, maybe you're referring to the burning bush.

Ohhhh, boy is this going to be fun!! (EDITED TO ADD: I can't get the quote function to work... sorry)

First off, ADbox, you say
[quote] George Bush used the christian party to win the election in 2004, then he took the nation to war... [/quote]
Ummm, I was deployed in 2003 in support of the war in Iraq... so the war (and "crusade") started WELL before 2004. Quick! Make up another bad fact!!

Next you go on to say:
[quote] George Bush aslo spies on American citizens who have a moral opposition to his political agenda. [/quote]
Is this regarding the LEGAL wiretaps? The law that made this legal was passed in 1978 under Jimmy Carter, and has been used by Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and now GWB. It is LEGAL for international calls and for suspected criminals. Kindly do some homework before you accuse.

[quote] He left Katrina victims out to dry for days, with no air support at all. [quote]
Try telling this to the hundreds of Coast Guardsmen that were on scene in H65 and H60 helicopters. And check timelines for when Governor Blanco actually officially requested help. You will be amazed... the citizenry of New Orleans WERE abandoned - but it wasn't by the feds. (I won't get into Mike Brown - HE should be in prison...)

Membership in a CLUB or a FRATERNITY is nothing to be ashamed of - and means NOTHING. All it does is offer fodder to people who hear things bump in the night to reach for scapegoats.

PNAC is nothing more than a think-tank and an organization that thinks they are right... and whether they are or not is yet to be determined. Bush is also a member of a church... who believes that Christianity is the "right" religion and should be embraced by all... as do nearly ALL Christian franchises. Is this BAD?? Who knows, but it does make for an interesting world.

The ONLY people that use the term "NeoCon" are LIBERALS who speak badly about conservatives. The term is VERY rarely used by conservatives.

Which brings me to:
[quote] On top of that Bush constantly uses rhetoric and bunk information to pump up public support. [/quote]
Which is what you are doing in your post - using rhetoric and bunk info to make your point. Sorry, I don't like it from politicos, and I don't like it from an anonymous poster in the internet. You make accusations, back them up with cites, sites and FACTS.

That is a GREAT quote from Lincoln!! It is a shame you don't bring up the CONTEXT of the quote to support it. In 1848, a JUNIOR congressman Lincoln made the speech to attempt to cut the tailfeathers of President James Polk, who moved to "re-annex" Texas and to "re-colonize" Oregon, under a "new" (read: rediscovered) idea called "Manifest Destiny". His willingness to re-annex Texas was forced because of CONGRESS passing a bill offering it to Texas, though. Neither the US nor Britain wanted to go to war over Oregon, so they eventually agreed to extend the Canadian border along the 49th parallel... so all Lincoln's selected quote above did was help cement our unwillingness to go to war over the Pacific Northwest.

Comes out differently when you use the context, doesn't it? Try this link for more help.

And, finally, on to the UNATTRIBUTED quote you used in the original post:
[quote] "This kind of mentality makes you very strong," says Amir Mohebian, political editor of the conservative Resalat newspaper.

"Bush said: 'God said to me, attack Afghanistan and attack Iraq.' The mentality of Mr. Bush and Mr. Ahmadinejad is the same here - both think God tells them what to do," says Mr. Mohebian, noting that end-of-time beliefs have similar roots in Christian and Muslim theology. [/quote]
Kindly note that BUSH didn't say that God told him to attack. It is Mr. Mohebian that says that Bush had made that comment.

Is it accurate? Not quite.

Bush has admitted that he has prayed over the decisions, but not that GOD had directed him to do ANYTHING.

Remember the comments above about rhetoric and bunk info? Please watch what you post when you get too far out there... or reality may come back to prove you to be wrong.

Now THAT I can agree with and have said similar myself. Totally agree with this. What I don't agree with, is your original "point" that just because someone is "religious" they're "crazie".

I don't think this thread is going to result in anything constructive.