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Sunofone
December 26th will see the druidic "new year" or the first day of the new "sun"-- the 21rst sees the winter solstice at which point the sun will begin to reverse its southerly course in the the sky,essentially old man time is dying on the cross,and the sun will stand its course for three days after which its northerly accent begins and a new sun is born-- the 23,24,25 are the days of transition and the 26th is officially the "new" year--
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First. no people of the ancient world believed the "Sun" to be "God". That belongs in the "disinformation file".

In point of fact, every Ancient culture and nation on Earth have all used the Sun as the most logically appropriate symbol to represent the Glory of the unseen Creator of the heavens. The English language is derived from the German. In the Germanic, the word 'Sun' is spelled 'Sonne'. The two words can (and have been) used interchangeably.

Old Testament:
"The heavens are declaring the Glory of God." (PS.19: 1)

New Testament:
"Jesus is the Glory of God." (2 Cor 4:6)

Old Testament:
"The SUN of Righteousness will arise with healings in His wings." (Mal 4:2)

New Testament:
"God's Son/Sun...he is risen!" (Matt 4:16)
Saying. "How, often I wanted to gather you under my wing. "

The Statue of Liberty...to this day, kings still wear a round "crown of thorns",
symbolising the rays of the Sun!

The "Ancient Story" went something like this....

1. The ancient peoples reasoned that no one on Earth could ever lay claim of ownership to the Great Orb of Day. It must belong to the unseen Creator of the Universe. It was, figuratively speaking, not man's, but "GOD'S SUN". Truly, "God's Sun/Son was...
THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

2. As stated before, in the dark cold of night man realised his utter vulnerability to the elements. Each night, mankind was forced to wait for the " Risen Sun" to chase away the physical and mental insecurity brought on by the darkness. Therefore, the morning Sun focused man's attention on heavenly dependents for his frail, short existence on Earth, and in doing so, it became the appropriate symbol of divine benevolence from heaven.

3. So just as small fire brought limited light into man's own little world of darkness, likewise the "Great Fire of Day" served the whole Earth with its heavenly presence.
For this reason, it was said at Deut 4:24, and Heb 12:29 that the God of the Bible was a "Consuming Fire" in heaven. And so He is!

4. It was accepted by all that man was bound to a life on Earth, but the sky was God the Father's abode - His dwelling place. Naturally, God's Son/Sun would also reside with his Father " up in HEAVEN".

5. Ancient man saw in his male offspring his own image and likeness, and his own existence as a father was proved by the person of his son. It was assumed that God's 'Sun was but a visible representative of the unseen Creator in heaven. So it was said, "When you have seen the Sun, you have seen the Father ". or "The Father is glorified in his Sun".

6. Ancient man had no problem understanding that all life on Earth depended directly on life-giving energy from the Sun. Consequently, all life was lost without the Sun. It followed that God's 'Sun' was nothing less than "Our very Saviour".
If you don't think so, wait 'till it don't come up!

7. Since life is energy, and energy from the Sun gave life, and we sustained our very existence by taking energy in from our food (which came directly from God's Sun), the Sun must give up its life supporting energy so that we may continue to live.
"God's Sun gives his life for us to live."

8. While it was plainly true that our life came from and was sustained each day by "Our Saviour... God's Sun", it was and would be true only as long as the Sun would return each morning. Our hope of salvation would be secure only in a "RISEN saviour". For if he did not rise from his grave of darkness,all would be lost. All the world waited patiently for His 'imminent return". The Divine Father would never leave us at the mercy of this world of darkness. His Heavenly promise concerning his Sun was surely that..."He would come again"...to light our path, and save those lost in the darkness ... And He still does...
every morning about 5:30 am.

9. Logically, even if man himself died, as long as the Sun comes up each day, life on Earth will continue forever. Therefore, it was said in the ancient texts that everlasting life was "the gift" that the Father gives through his Sun. For..."God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten SUN that we may have life everlasting"....on Earth!
Not for you personally - but ON EARTH... everlasting life!

10. Since evil and harm lurked at every turn in the fearful dark of night, all evil or harmful deeds were naturally, the..."works of darkness."
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30. On the round surface of the yearly calendar, you can draw a straight line directly across the middle, cutting the circle in half... one end being the point of the winter solstice; the other end being the point of the summer solstice. Then you can draw another straight line (crossing the first one); one end of the new line being the spring equinox; the other end being the autumn equinox. You now have the starting points for each of the 4 seasons. This is referred to by all major encyclopedias and reference works, both ancient and modern, as "The Cross of the Zodiac". Thus, the life of God's 'Sun' is on "the Cross". This is why we see the round circle of the Sun on the crosses of Christian churches. The next time you pass a Christian church, look for the circle (God's Sun) on the cross.

The Sun, since the first day of summer, has each day been moving southward, and stops when it reaches its lowest point in the Northern Hemispheric sky (December 22nd - our winter solstice).

At this lowest point, the Sun stops its journey southward.
For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.

This is the only time in the year that the Sun actually stops its movement Northward or Southward in our sky. On the morning of December 25th the Sun moves one degree northward beginning its annual journey back to us in the Northern Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring. Anything steadily moving all year long that suddenly stops moving for three days was considered to have died. Therefore, God's Sun who was dead for three days, moves one-degree Northward on December 25th beginning its annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. The Sun is symbolically
....BORN AGAIN.


And to this day, His worshippers still celebrate His BIRTHDAY!.... Merry Christmas.
31. Today we use expressions when someone dies. We say things like, "They Passed", or "They Passed On", or "They Passed Away". The ancients said "They Passed Over" (from one life to another), And so it was with the coming of spring, as God's Sun is "Resurrected" from the Death of Winter to His New Life (in spring). In the ancient world, long before the Hebrews ever existed, the celebration of spring was called "The Pass Over", The Sun, which was dead in winter, has
passed over to His new life in spring. This is the origin of the modern Pass Over celebration. This is why Christians also celebrate "The Resurrection", or His return, in spring with a "Sun Rise service"... He kept His Promise, and has returned to us with the Promise of New Life... "HAPPY EASTER-PASSOVER!"LINK

the past two years have seen great "sacrifice"-- the sumatran tsunami and the bam,iran earthquake which together adds to around 400,000 lives lost-- interestingly enough iran seems intrical in the current tension that seems to hinting at a coming event-- others have signaled this time period through various other techniques-- here are some insights as to why we may be on a crash course with an elite based trauma inducing incident to bring about a global military police state--
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December 23, 2005

Whats the Fed Up To With the Money Supply?
by Robert McHugh


Over the past two days, December 21st - when our first Hindenburg Omen (of whatever cluster is coming) - and Thursday December 22nd, the Federal Reserve has conducted one of the largest two-day Repo injections of money into the system since back in September 2001. On Wednesday they added $18.0 billion in reserves and on Thursday they added another $20.0 billion. Is this a coincidence, coming right as we get another Hindenburg Omen? Probably not. Is something high-risk going on behind the scenes here? Let's review some facts at the Fed. On November 10th, 2005, shortly after appointing Bernanke to replace Greenbackspan, the Fed mysteriously announced with little comment and no palatable justification that they will hide M-3 effective March 2006. M-3 has been the main staple of money supply measurement and transparent disclosure since the Fed was founded back in 1913. It is the key monetary aggregate that includes Fed Repo transactions, that mechanism whereby the Fed increases reserves. The date when M-3 will start being hidden also happens to be the exact month that Iran will declare economic war against the U.S. Dollar by trading its oil in Petro-Euros on its new bourse. But there is more. The Federal Reserve currently has three vacancies within the 19 top Regional Bank and Board of Governor spots. Why? Part of ongoing wholesale resignations.
The latest is from the Philly Fed. Fed President and Open Market Committee member Anthony Santomero has announced his resignation after only a brief year and a half tenure. Very unusual. Hey, Fed Presidents are treated like gods. They have enormous power, prestige, and presence. Why quit? He is far from alone. Over the past few years no less than six Federal Reserve Regional Bank Presidents have resigned. This is highly unusual.

An immediate impact is that we are about to have a largely inexperienced batch of individuals conducting monetary policy in the United States. So of course, the first thing they will do is hide the key money figures. Two positions for the Board of Governors (there are 7)have been open for quite a while. Plus six of the 12 Regional Head spots have turned over during the past few years.

If a substantial amount of oil transactions will suddenly be conducted in Euros instead of Dollars, this should put pressure on the Dollar as folks exchange Dollars for Euros, jeopardizing the Dollar's status as the world's reserve currency, making it more difficult to print all the dollars the Fed wants to without driving the Dollar into the ground. Iraq threatened to do what Iran has threatened to do just before we went in looking for weapons of mass disappearance. If the Dollar tanks, Treasuries might not be far behind. If Treasuries tank, kiss the Housing-driven boom goodbye. Could the Master Planners be hiding M-3 because they anticipate they may have to monetize the Federal debt, buy our own Treasury Bonds during the coming economic attack against the Dollar? That would require a ton of new fresh money creation - too much to disclose. Could it be some folks at the top of the Fed do not have the stomach to be part of what is about to go down?

M-3 has a direct but lagging impact on financial markets.

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best wishes for the holidays and GODSPEED My bretheren
angrycrustacean
I am confused. What, exactly, is your point?
Welsh Shaun
I think hes telling us not to buy any shares this time of year laugh.gif
GreyWeather
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Dec 23 2005, 07:56 PM) [snapback]989953[/snapback]

I am confused. What, exactly, is your point?


i'm in the same boat as you.

is he saying the bible jesus is going to rise again, or that we are in the year of lucifer?
mike^_^
i believe he's bringing up the same thing a thread was made about a little bit ago (page3 or so)

it's some blend between the mayan predictions and calendar, along with the 7 years of tribulation of revelation.

I still haven't seen the connection, and would be interested in seeing Sunofone explain himself a little better..
Fluffybunny
So am I supposed to buy champagne for the luciferian new year and December 31'st? I mean I already have plenty of party hats and noise makers that could pull double duty, but I don't know the protocals for this new holiday.

I wish I would have known about this sooner, I am just not prepared. I hate last minute party plan changes, but that is ok, I can manage.

Anyway, if I happen to be busy that day I want to wish everyone a happy Luciferian New year as well as a new year...

...I wonder if the Rose Parade folks know about this?




Sorry, I read the thread and it just struck me as funny...I mean no disrespect...as you were...
GreyWeather
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Dec 23 2005, 08:59 PM) [snapback]990029[/snapback]

So am I supposed to buy champagne for the luciferian new year and December 31'st? I mean I already have plenty of party hats and noise makers that could pull double duty, but I don't know the protocals for this new holiday.

I wish I would have known about this sooner, I am just not prepared. I hate last minute party plan changes, but that is ok, I can manage.

Anyway, if I happen to be busy that day I want to wish everyone a happy Luciferian New year as well as a new year...

...I wonder if the Rose Parade folks know about this?
Sorry, I read the thread and it just struck me as funny...I mean no disrespect...as you were...


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Lord Umbarger
I am so confused right now that I don't know what to say. I honestly think that I just lost a whole regiment of brain cells by reading that! That only happend when I drink hard liquor! I'm going to go and sit down for a little while.
Celumnaz
While I don't quite agree with most points of the subject matter, I have to say the charts and images are top notch imo. User friendly and aesthetically pleasing. original.gif
MJB222
Does anyone else think it's ironic that it's on the same day as Boxing Day?
JesseTheMutt
Are you saying that the Druids who I love so much have anything to do with Lucifer or anything like that??That is crazy.The druids have nothing to do with The Bible or anything like that.I am so confused on your point but thats what I got out of that.That The Druids have something to do with Lucifer.That's crazy I tell you.
Sunofone
my bad-- maybe i was lacking a bit in details-- i am not religious and when i say lucifer i am refering to the original "bearer of light" "lucifer" or the "sun"(some account the name to venus that rises on the horizon just before sunrise but the original light bearer is the sun)-- imo the ptb are sun worshipers and tend to be ritualistically predictable-- i am convinced of technology suppression and imo the ability to induce tsunamis or earthquakes is well within the grasp of the elite-- i was stating that bam,iran and the sumatran tsunami were ritual sacrifices honoring the new year-- i also think they are planning something big for dec,26 -- others have drawn similar conclusions regaurding the time frame and a possible "deep impact event" and the economic strife is an interecting tangent that i believe will be part of the coming ritual-- the jordan maxwell site is a great primer on the analogy between jesus,who is a fictional character based on the tale of the sun,and the connections to luciferianism(or sunworship)-- any one that still thinks of jesus is an actual figure in history simply needs to read up on the story of horus or the druids jeshua to realize that the story of jesus is merely a remake of a much older tale--
Yelekiah
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Dec 24 2005, 12:50 AM) [snapback]990853[/snapback]

the story of horus or the druids jeshua to realize that the story of jesus is merely a remake of a much older tale--

I have to agree with you there. Far too many parallels in my opinion.
Merry Luciferian New Year to you btw.
Zeus
Though the elite may hold quake technology, they are bound by laws as to when and when not to use it. e.g. Only during specific solar junctures. They, like the efforts made by the students during the hippy revolution of the sixties, are directed by higher powers. Hence nobody is allowed to see the sun rise until the universe says so, naturaly. Worshipping the sun, the peoples did as they were directed by God or by the universal cycles. The Luciferians and satanists seem to follow laws as well. The illuminati never introduce any new measure of population manipulation without advertising the fact that they are doing this. This and other laws determines them as following puppets, following laws and instructions given o them. the fact that the Illuminati advertise their next move through the media (albeit subliminal) is perfect proof that there are rules of engagement. some say that they are bound by a free will universe. They cannot do a thing to thepopulation without the population agreeing.. For the negative entities that they contact through rituals, tell them when and what to do whenever. Still these negative entity overlords are puppets themselves, even if they intend destruction, all negative and positive events lead to a unified whole. Human understanding of God is that all negative and positive realities are of his creation. Setting off a tsunami may seem to be human judgement over humans, but there is a lot more to the story, as usual there is much more hidden than we are able to even fathom. Just as christian priests follow heavenly spirits, these occult groups do exactly the same......
mike^_^
shouldn't this thread be in the metaphysics/paranormal/or ancient mystery forum?

you can't really prove any of this..
ADbox
from what i have gathered....


this is a dry theory. Nothing magical. an ode to chaos.... it deserves the luciferian title

There is no promise of eternal life.

And the point to existance is to preserve life.

yawn....

thats a life not worth living if i dont exist after i die. even the memory of me will eventually fade out with this mindset, bc everyone i lived for will die and be forgotten as well.

and humanity hasnt proved worth the effort.

now you give me everlasting life.

i will work to preserve the temporary.

otherwise im about to go rob a bank and run amuck GTA style.


Anyone else see my point.

ill continue being from this world, but not of it.

or maybe i dont understand.
matthewgoad
Well today is the 26th.. Anything big happen in the world today other than after Christmas sales? I was just wondering.
ADbox
QUOTE(matthewgoad @ Dec 26 2005, 07:09 PM) [snapback]993563[/snapback]

Well today is the 26th.. Anything big happen in the world today other than after Christmas sales? I was just wondering.



nothing.

but is something supposed to happen?

I just thought it was the official start of the 7 year tibulation period.

But even i dont know where that came from other than its 2012 - 7.
Fluffybunny
Well, HAPPY LUCIFERIAN NEW YEAR!!!

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matthewgoad
Boo this man!
ADbox
Booo... (why are we boing?)


be happy though, no matter what day it is.
matthewgoad
Just always wanted to say that!
ADbox
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Dec 24 2005, 05:50 AM) [snapback]990853[/snapback]

any one that still thinks of jesus is an actual figure in history simply needs to read up on the story of horus or the druids jeshua to realize that the story of jesus is merely a remake of a much older tale--



why does it have to be a fictional remake. I have never called my self christian exactly but to me there is enough evidense that a man named jesus christ who proclaimed to be the son of a most high god existed.

even if it is a story that has been told in the past, like a reoccuring pattern, the events could have happend again. Of course it would not be exactly the same, and the story would unfold in a manner moe appropriate to the current times.


Even in worst case scenario, some really intellegent but corrupt political figures ran across this Religious Docterine about a savior figure and through deception used it to create a resistance to the Romans through spirituality. Then they would of had to mooch of prophecy and install John the Babtist to prepare the way and that just is unlikely.

Either way Jesus Christ was died and from that moment on he has been a symbol for human perfection, love incarnate, humility, the new testiment, and every other positive emotion.
...... What other historical figure can claim all these qualities? And from my experiance, people who understand the true values of christianity have extremely sound and developed morals and ethics and will still get hammered with you on the weekends.

Either way real or not. His effect and his principles are real. And it was his principles(pure holy spirt/positive emotions/truth) that he was an incarnate of.
ADbox
December 27 started the massive uncontrollable widlfires. and the flooding of the west coast. Another storm is gonna hit the west i hear... but i am not too sure.



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personal note:

I saw that storm on tv before it hit. It was the biggest storm i had ever seen, and it looked kinda like a weak large hurricane.

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GO HERE to search the weather patterns http://wist.ngdc.noaa.gov/wist/goes.html

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user posted image 12/26/2005 this is the water vapor... but i dont know crap about weather.
Zeus
Be wise, put down your toys and do your homework.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Luciferia...lv5-&fl=0&x=wrt
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Luciferia...lv5-&fl=0&x=wrt
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=church+of...lv5-&fl=0&x=wrt

Politics hides the NWO, the NWO hides something quite different.

Moloch=worshipping by sacrificing children... though the Bohemian grove experience was exposed.. people couldn't get past the polotics.. when actually it is the religion and the paranormal activities of the occult ritual that we should be investigating. You know, we have the figure Bush to throw toatoes and cabbages at, but really it is what goes on behind the scenes that inspires forums like this... The real crack is that Sinophone cuts and pastes without making a point... Though the timing is always very good. This year is 2006. A turning point in the occult calendar. december 2005 was marked by two massive fires. Remembering the fire in Engalnd tht was made to continue longer despite the repeated fears by the media that the smoke released in a winter period will damage people's health...

Study the paranormal and occult and then you will see behind the NO cover story. Though it is too gory to dwell on or even believe..


two qustions. Do you believe Bush really cares how many women and children have died in Iraq ?

Do you think that Bush really cares if the odd American child dies in a satanic ritual /

Do you think that history was correct about Moloch, Lucerfer, Satan or whatever period named, was really about sacrificing people to a greater spirit or set of creatures known as gods... Lucifer is a myth....? .
PLO
yes, it is. Satan is a personification of the natural deeds people are capable off, good and bad and a paralell of the forces around us, night and day etc.

evil happens becuase its nature at work, killer whales kill for seems to be like fun, they dont do it to feed themselves, they do it and bat the seals around to each other with their tails like a tennis match. We'd go to jail for doing that to other human beings, but becuase we define laws in the context of our society you think that all the evil that exists is a conspiracy to sacrifice humans to evil gods?, what rubbish. What about the plankton eh?, WHAT ABOUT THE PLANKTON WHAT EVIL GOD HAS IT IN FOR THEM?????
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