For all of you that truly believe in Jesus and believe that he was the son of God as it is written in the bible, and you don’t need any proof other than the good book itself and of course you have strong faith.

What if the same thing where to happen present day, and some guy from Jerusalem claimed that he is the son of God and not only that had claimed to perform miracles that only a few have witnessed, he stands almost every day preaching the word of God and so on
Would you laugh at him and call him a liar and think he should be locked up in some mental hospital?..... or…. would you take some time and see if he is for real and fully believe that he is the son of God and follow him because this time you can actually see for yourself and now you have proof he does exist?

As for me I think I would take the time and see if he is for real.

Honestly, if only a few witnessed it (and not me) I wouldn't take the man seriously.

well i think most people would wait and see and if he did something blame it on a trick or an illusion.......but never let go of that book

People these days want evidence. There are too many crazy individuals out there claiming to be Jesus to begin with. What would make this man any different if we don't see it with our own eyes?

Well we'd have to be smart about it. If this guy claims to "heal" a blind man, we'd want doctor records indicating the man was indeed blind to begin with, and doctor records after the healing to reveal he has been healed. I would want to see this man for myself and although i would listen to his Godly messages, i would want to see what makes him "special" from any other person who assumes he is Jesus.

Hmm, a few names spring to mind right now. Jim Jones. David Koresh......... Joseph Smith (jk).

Ok, maybe not Joey Smith, but the others. If someone came claiming to be God, I would search the scriptures, I would search for proof. Like ramster, I'd want records of blind and lame and deaf being healed.

I'd also read the Bible, if this new Jesus is preaching the same. If he is preaching different, I would have to seriously question his claims, despite the miracles he may be performing. And besides, according to the post-millenialist ideal, the anti-Christ is supposed to be able to do just that, right?

Regards, PA

Now days that would happen but a lot of people would only believe it if they see it, but yet there are those of us that just believe it just because the book tell us so and the faith of course

Lets say there was proof of a blind mans records that he really was once blind but now can see all because of this man that claims to be the son of God would people begin to believe?

No, they may want a lot more evidence than that in my opinion.

But PA you believe that Jesus really did preform miracles and you believe in what the bible says and hey you don't have proof, yet you still believe, so then why would you today if the same and I mean the exact same thing where to happen would you want proof?

IT depends BM. Since you are speaking of a contemporary event, we can go to the source and check out for ourselves. If it happened many years ago, we don't have the possibility to verify the truth. If I were living 2000 years ago, I'd want to see this Jesus person myself if I could too.

Know what I mean.

Regards, PA

More evidence than what? like if they knew he was blind and where well aware of his medical history and yet saw this man preform a miracle and saw that the man that was once blind could now see....what more evidience would thay want?...maybe you mean more miracles?

But you still believe Jesus did these things though, PA...I just find that interesting.

Evidence that these miracles are not just chance. Evidence, such as medical records. If it happened one time it may not sway a lot of people. If it happened many times, then more people will believe it (evidence and miracles).

You and me both PA but we still believe even though we never did see it.

Yes I believe a good part of the bible (not all of it) but like I said earlier if this where to happen now and I heard about it, then I would keep an open mind to hear and see more stuff about this man, but that don't mean I would want to see him preform miracles, I would just hear him out more...gee it's hard to explain

So then, BM, would you believe if a guy claimed to be Jesus and there were witnesses that saw him heal people, even though you didn't see it for yourself?

Doesn't the Bible talk about this happening? Seems the person that "comes again" is worship and prayed too. Millions believe it's the second coming of Christ. But the Bible warns us of this person, that this person is the "false profit". (Not sure about that spelling.) And we are warned not to believe in him, to ignore him. That he is the right hand of Satan.

I'd have see if he could dodge rocks while blinded folded with earmuffs on and weighted down with steel and wearing a really big coat in the summer. And then He'd have to guess my full name.

OK lets say it happened more than once and we had proof of medical records...now what?

Would a lot of people freak out over this?

But you can't help but wonder if it is true or not, could this person that said that he is from the right hand of Satan just be a non believer?

But you wouldn;t believe it. What makes this hypothetical "Christ" any different form Jesus?


I think "duh" answers that appropriately. Defying logic causes people to freak out.

If it turned out to be the real Jesus I think it would be time to assassinate.

We have no proof that Jesus was the right hand of Satan.

I for one wouldn't freak out..it would take more than a few miracles to freak me out sunshine

Who says I wouldn't believe it or not? I said yes i would keep an open mind that don't mean I wouldn't believe it, I would be swaying towards believing and probablly in the end believe, and keep it to myself.

Yele- we have proof of neither character. I belive Jesus existed but I don't belive in Yahweh

What assassinate him for being the real Jesus? ok that was a bit over the top
I don't think he would be assassinated (some mad person would try) but I would say he would be taken some place

It is one interpretation of Revelation that there will be an anti-Christ, a false Prophet who will do miracles, fool everyone and then set himself/herself up as God on Earth.

It is not an interpretation that I hold to personally, but it is a common belief. Unless and until this person actually shows up, I don't think it matters to me, personally.

Regards, PA

I would keep bothering him till he accepts my challenge to a fight.

Why did you bother getting up this morning it's obvious you need more rest

You just said if it happened more than once, so I assume this would have been more than just "a few miracles". And I wasn't referring to you to begin with, just people in general

But not believe it entirely if you were "swaying toward believing". Why swaying toward believing it and not sway toward believing Jesus?

I know you where speaking in general...I just gave my opinion

Entirely - I dunno, I try and imagine if this was the case and actually happening and if so then lets just say a big maybe...but if i followed him more and became more so convinced then YES I would believe he has come again. As for my belief in Jesus from the bible, of course I believe it's part of my faith...I made this topic for others that believe also and I am so curious to see what they would say

What makes Jesus more credible than Mr. Hypothetical Jesus? More popularity?

To a certain extent

Yep, that's pretty much it. Faith is pretty interesting, isn't it?

Tis true and to be honest it's all some of us have.

I can't help but wonder if I where to meet such a man would i let my greed slip in and ask him to preform a miracle for me to make me happy. Did Jesus only preform miracles for those that truley believe?

I wouldn't, I've never known happiness so if I want to find it on my own

Well remember that individual that was healed only by touching Jesus?
But the thing is, there is zero proof that he performed any miracles. Plus pious fiction was gaining popularity at the time. Also, the Bible was written in third person instead of an eyewitness (first person) point of view. But people believe it blindly. Yet I'm sure people will doubt Mr. Hypothetical Jesus (with proof).

Ohh you hit the nail on the head there alright

You will only get true happiness if you make it happen yourself.

People who wallow in self pitty will always remain unhappy, it's also a sin..or so I have heard

Truly? Was this in the Talmud?

I wasn't wallowing I know I don't deserve to be happy so I don't care. I'll get it when I deserve it.

I am not sure I just said so I've heard...I am not too familiar with the Jewish Law

Well there are 613 commandments, The ten that are in the Bible are the ten most "important" ones from there. I thought that may have been where it came from.

EVERYONE deserves to be happy and YES that includes you sunshine you just have to make it so. And if you believe that you don't deserve it, then I am afraid you are wallowing in self pity, and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. I used to wallow in it a lot years ago and thought to myself hang on a min, I deserve to be happy and I will do what makes me happy...for one in a while you must be able to put yourself 1st.

I hardly put myself 1st especailly when it comes to my daughter but amongst other things I tend to a lot these days

It could well have been from there...I merly just heard it from my mother, she told me it when I was one of those 'nothing goes right for me, everyone is against me teenagers'

Or she could have made it up. I'll check it out though.

I thought at the time she did make it up to stop me from wallowing in self pity as a teenager as it wasn't doing me any good...but self pity never does anyone any good

It could be in Proverbs somewhere. They aren't Laws per se, but they are good rules to live by.

I would be intrested to see what Yel finds

Okay 90% of Christians would call this blasphemy along with I in that pecentage...... Alot of people say that kind of stuff and are called wackos, I dont belive it. Jesus was Gods son.... If i saw this book id destroy it with massive guns of death...... But that is my opinion and i accept youres also....

In the Talmud? I'll look it up for kicks. I'll see if Proverbs says it is a "sin".