did u guys no the Einstien worked for Hitler.. and he was supposed to develop the A-BOMB for hitler.. that would have been bad.. but the U.S captured him and brought him back here.. EINSTIEN always said he wished he was a watch maker haha.. but do you all think that if Einstien didnt devlop the mathematical equation for the nuclur bomb we wouldnt have it still????also did u no that he worked for hitler?? let me no what you guys think..

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Actually... Einstein never worked for Hitler, He fled germany while he could still get out. Also, He did not develop the A-bomb-He discovered how to split an atom, What made the A-bomb possible. But not the A-bomb itself.

Took the words right out of my fingers, Novo. Also, Einstein was not pleased with the fact that bombs were being dropped. Furthermore, one scientist speculated that humans of the past could have known about splitting an atom. I forget his name.

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By 'of the past' do you mean a few decades before scientists learned how to do it or do you mean ancients?

"As long as their is man there will be war"
Albert Einstein

i think the bomb was done before Einstein made it but Einstein did it.

PS:silly joke
You doesn't dream it , but einstein did it

Hitler had no interest in an invention by a jew.

tyes even though hitler hated jew he would have taken a wepon but still Einstien fled before he was captured.and he split an atom.

Hitler would've used Einstien if he could have. He used many other Jews to build weapons, why not Albert?

Einstien fled from Germany before he invented the E=mc2 formula. That was the critical break though that made building the bomb possible. Oppenhiemer was the physicist that actually oversaw the design and construction phases.

The ancient Greeks theorised that the universe is made up of tiny particles. We now refer to the same theory but, call the tiny particles atoms. They wouldn't have been able to harness the power of the atom though.

Einstein left Germany for the United States in 1933, just as the political climate was swaying towards the Nazi Party, and Hitler having just become Chancellor.

the E=mc2 formula was concieved in 1905, I think, and not after he left Germany. And I also believe that the ancient greeks theorist about the Atom (from which our word comes from). They thought it was the smallest building stone of life, but also that it was some kind of element, if my memory serves me correct...

But I've heard that Einstein ergued the US president to make the Bomb before Hitler got it (which he almost did)!

Actually, Vidgange, the German atomic project never really got off the ground. It didn't help that much of their physicist talent fled the country shortly after Einstein did.

I'm reasonably certain that a Saracen scientist during Crusading days speculated that the splitting of a small particle would result in an enormous amount of energy; i.e. atom splitting. I doubt anything was actually done, though.

^^^ (three up) yeah, the nazi's had almost completed the atom bomb blueprints, but the war soon ended and they cancelled the making of the bomb.

"The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe.
Albert Einstein, Telegram, 24 May 1946 "

A nice quote in regards to this subject.

Einstien did work for hitler... even though he was a jew.... hitler grabbed him because h was a genius.. ill find sources for you guys... i read it in a magazine last night.. i was shocked!!! and i no he didnt invent the abomb i said he found the mathmatical formula that lead to it...

Bit odd I could have sworn he emigrated to the US in 33 because the Nazis came to power, kind of didnt leave him long to work for hitler and other people he liked so much he left the country.

Its been a long time EL...Your right he didn't make the bomb he gave them what they needed to make it, And yes he was with Hitler..But fled out of fear once it was known he was a Jew....

He was implying ancients. I'll look for it. I know it wasn't Tesla who said it...

It is true that the A-Bomb was developed by a German brain, but it was not Einstein.
Werner von Braun is the Guy. Up until 1944, I believe, he was working, not volonterely, for the Nazi regime in ever so beautifull Germany. How he came to the US I am not sure, but he is one of the key figures in developing of the A-Bomb.
I might be wrong, I am still dizzy from all the BIER.
Happy New Year everybody.

You are incorrect. Von Braun stayed in Germany until the wars' end, as one of the main scientists behind the development of the V-2 rocket, when he and most of the other top German rocket scientists were briskly swept ought of Germany to prevent the Soviets from getting their hands on them. He had no involvement with the atomic bomb.

oppenheimer possibly hinted ina pretty cryptic fashion that atomics had been used somewhere in pre-history. And Einstien basicaly beg'd everyone never to attempt it.

Einstein sent a letter to the U.S. president of those days (Eisenhower I assume?), telling him the possible disastrous consequences that the A-Bomb could have on society. Well, the warnings were never heard by US top officials, when the scientists suggested doing an exhibition of the real potential of the bomb on an inhabited island, to the Japanese main officials...This were ignored and the consequences are already known.

In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, Einstein made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). The atomic bomb would clearly illustrate this principle.

In 1915, Einstein published his general theory of relativity. The theory of relativity revolutionized our understanding of matter, space, and time. But bombs were not what Einstein had in mind when he published this equation. Einstein achieved world recognition for his general theory of relativity and won the Nobel prize for physics in 1921. As a Jew, Einstein suffered a great deal of prejudice in Germany and after being involved in a memorial service for the assassinated German politician, Walther Rathenau, he was warned that he was likely to be murdered by the Freikorps.

Einstein became increasingly interested in politics and he toured Europe making speeches on peace and disarmament. In 1929 he upset right-wing forces in Weimar Germany by saying that he would unconditionally refuse all war service, direct or indirect regardless of how he might feel about the causes of any particular war.

When Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933 Einstein was in California. His house was immediately attacked. After being told what had happened, Einstein decided not to return home. Instead he toured Europe making speeches explaining what was taking place in Nazi Germany.

In 1934 Einstein emigrated to the United States where he became a professor of mathematics at Princeton. He was no longer a pacifist and argued that democratic nations needed to rearm in order to defend itself against the aggressive foreign policy of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany.

The splitting of the uranium atom in Germany in December 1938 plus continued German aggression led some physicists to fear that Germany might be working on an atomic bomb. Among those concerned were physicists Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. But Szilard and Wigner had no influence with those in power. So in July 1939 they explained the problem to someone who did: Albert Einstein. After consulting with Einstein, in August 1939 Szilard wrote a letter to President Roosevelt with Einstein's signature on it. The letter was delivered to Roosevelt in October 1939 by Alexander Sachs, a friend of the President. In the letter, Einstein warned President Franklin D. Roosevelt that German scientists were in a position to develop an atomic bomb. This encouraged Roosevelt to establish the Manhattan Project. Einstein's greatest role in the invention of the atomic bomb was signing this letter to President Franklin Roosevelt urging that the bomb be built by US. Einstein did not directly participate in the invention of the atomic bomb but he was instrumental in facilitating its development.

Einstein biographer Ronald Clark has observed that the atomic bomb would have been invented without Einstein's letters, but that without the early U.S. work that resulted from the letters, the a-bombs might not have been ready in time to use during the war on Japan.

The atomic bomb related work that Einstein did was very limited and he completed it in two days during December 1941. Vannevar Bush, who was coordinating the scientific work on the a-bomb at that time, asked Einstein's advice on a theoretical problem involved in separating fissionable material by gaseous diffusion. But Bush and other leaders in the atomic bomb project excluded Einstein from any other a-bomb related work because they didn't trust Einstein to keep the project a secret.

As the realization of nuclear weapons grew near, Einstein looked beyond the current war to future problems that such weapons could bring. He wrote to physicist Niels Bohr in December 1944 asying that when the war is over, there will be in all countries a pursuit of secret war preparations with technological means which will lead inevitably to preventative wars and to destruction even more terrible than the present destruction of life.

The atomic bombings of Japan occurred three months after the surrender of Germany, whose potential for creating a Nazi a-bomb had led Einstein to push for the development of an a-bomb for the Allies. Einstein withheld public comment on the atomic bombing of Japan until a year afterward. Einstein said that he was sure that President Roosevelt would have forbidden the atomic bombing of Hiroshima had he been alive and that it was probably carried out to end the Pacific war before Russia could participate.

Around 1945, Hitler's physicists were behind the Allies in developing nuclear power .This group included eminent scientists such as Nobel Prize-winner Werner Heisenberg and Otto Hahn, who had discovered nuclear fission. The scientists, most of whom were involved in Nazi wartime nuclear research, were to spend the next six months in detention at Farm Hall, Godmanchester.

The building was owned by the government and, unbeknown to its "guests", every part of it was wired up with listening equipment. Certainly when the Americans captured the German's nuclear research papers they found that the project was at least three years behind the Allies. They had not even produced the first stage of the atomic programme, a small crude nuclear reactor - built in the US in 1942.

Tapes suggest the scientists, and in particular Heisenberg, lagged far behind in their knowledge of the physics of nuclear weaponry. There was talk that Heisenberg and his colleagues knew how to develop a nuclear bomb, but hindered efforts because of their opposition to Hitler but the fantasy that Heisenberg understood how to make a bomb all along but kept 'the secret' is ... absurd. If they had developed a bomb it would have been an absolute disaster for the world - we ought to be thankful that they didn't.

In November 1954, five months before his death, Einstein summarized his feelings about his role in the creation of the atomic bomb: "I made one great mistake in my life... when I signed the letter to President Roosevelt recommending that atom bombs be made; but there was some justification - the danger that the Germans would make them.

Einstein was actually personally involved in the Philadelphia Experiment (also known as Project Rainbow interestingly enough).

His reason for leaving the US and entering into relative seclusion was actually because of something he was involved in. It was related to Project Rainbow and quite frankly resulted in human rights violations.

The violations had nothing to do with happened to the crew of the USS Eldridge.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-2.htm

Any thoughts?

PS: Nice to see you again Lucid Element

the way it happened, was that Einstien invented the a-bomb mathmatical EQUATION... in the long run.. the U.S couldnt figure out how to make it or what he meant by this equation... so all you skeptics out there lol... the truth is... the reason if you READ DEEPLY the manhattan project came to decode his mathmatical equation... im sure many wont understand or will throw their two cents out.. but the fact is i have the Einstien biblography and wrote an essay on him and that is the truth.. the manhattan project came to decode his equation.. a lot of people and a lot of states... it did prove him right after years... the topic of this subject was if anyone knew that Einstien worked for Hitler.. which he did because.. it was either life or death hitler gave him as a choice.

The Atomic Bomb was the greatest contribution to world peace ever conceived by man, but unfortuantely the "wrong man" was in power to properly exploit it. If Truman had been a "great man" instead of a mediocre one, in the Atomic bomb he had the power to make the world a utopia yet failed to realize it. In 1945 he could have disarmed the whole world with the threat of nuclear weapons, ordered the soviets back to their borders, prevented their development of nuclear weapons, and created a "United Nations" that really worked, with U.S. B-29s enforcing the peace. Think of the trillions of dollars and the greatest human minds mostly devoted to weapons development since 1945 that could have been better spent on curing diseases and bettering the world. A world where evil could no longer thrive for every threat to world peace would be eliminated by the threat of nuclear retribution by late WWII vintage technology which would have remained perfectly adequate to cow the world into peaceful coexistence by the one country with the conscience to administer this justice.

There's your answer Lucid! Einstein wasn't even in Germany when the Nazi's toke the power! I have never heard anything anywhere that Einstein worked for Hitler...


And DC, what you're saying about creating an utopia out of the A-bomb is foolish! Really, think about it. If ONE nation had the power to force the world to do what it will, it would! Just look as it is now: USA is everywhere, doing like it pleases, torturing prisoners invading countries under the claim that they got weapons of massdestruction... Imagen what a peasful place the world would be if the US could do absolutly like they wanted to without any reasons! bah!

This is a pipe dream. In 1945, the United States had no way of projecting nuclear power except through the air, and they did not have enough bombs to do it. Not to mention that if the Soviets got the slightest suspicion that the US was going to threaten them with nuclear force, you would have seen the Soviet Army flooding into Western Europe to the Atlantic Ocean, at which point using nuclear weapons becomes troublesome unless you are willing to utterly annihilate the Soviet political hierarchy, of which the US did not have enough bombs to do until later.

"The Atomic Bomb was the greatest contribution to world peace ever conceived by man"

apart from actual peace itself?, theres been at least 157 "wars" conducted since the creation of the atomic bomb.

I think the idea is that it has forced the major powers of the world to work through negotiations to find solutions (that, or play proxy wars in the under-developed regions), rather than fighting huge, colossal wars against each other, because of the ever present threat of a nuclear war that could effectively collapse the major centers of civilization.

If my theory of relativity is proven correct, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German and Germany will declare that I am a Jew.

Albert Einstein

Stalin was terrified of the bomb, and had no idea how many more we had or how fast we could make them. There is little doubt he would have backed down and let eastern europe have its autonomy if the U.S. threatened to nuke Moscow. Yes there have been many wars since WWII, but there would have only been "one" if the U.S. prevented everyone else from getting the bomb, and that would be nuking the first country that attempted to make the bomb or attack another country. After that, "peace on earth".

i wouldnt consider the states controlling the world with threaths peace on earth and from a dictatorship like that would come revolutions and terrorism, as humans we are not capable of peace on earth, no situation can prevent us from turning to our violent nature.

no Abomb for the nazi's lol

and hi i am new and nice to met to all

it would have only turnd out a slightly worse hell than what we have now.

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Howdy, diemin
Once you pop the fun don't stop

Though I do agree with Guardsman Bass, I'm a bit hesitant to believe that the atomic bomb will preserve peace, but we will have to think things through before acting nowadays, unless we want our arses blown to bits!

well chances are its gonna happen one way or another, infact its pretty much a forgone conclusion since they built that crazy thigns. Splittin atoms, wtf.

i heat war and bombs i do not know y u.s.e is making more and more

i heat war and bombs i do not know y u.s.a is making more and more

u.s.a is making more and more bombs a week and do stop

well japan kinda make them for them, i wouldnt really trust any american made guidance systems, not in a million years.

Not quite true. Einstein discovered E=M*C^2, which means there is an enormous amount of energy in matter, since C^2 is 9*10^20 in the units of ergs, cm and sec. So he provided the theoretical background for a lot of things, including how stars work, how radioactivity works, and how nuclear weapons work. His only real involvement with nuclear weapons was to sign a letter to the President, which kicked off the Manhattan project.

I don't remember who discovered that splitting U-235 resulted in two neutrons as well as a lot of energy. But it was well known in the physics community just before WW 2.
This meant that a chain reaction would be possible. It took a huge industrial establishment to actually create 3 nuclear weapons, one exploded at White Sands, one over Hiroshima, and one over Nagasaki.

If the third Reich had lasted longer, it probably would have developed nuclear weapons. Certainly, Heisenberg and other Germans knew the basic theory.

~~~Cebrakon

thats why the allies finally chose to invade after years of making money of the war.

Actually we have fewer nuclear warheads now than during the Cold War. How many exactly I don't know, but there used to be 14 warheads on a nuclear missile, and now there is just one. The ground based missiles have all been dismantled. Both Russia and the US are steadily whittling away on the number of nuclear warheads, since it is a weapon that cannot be used.

~~~Cebrakon

its something close to like ten thousand probably more though they have built at least 70,000 since the the manhatten project, odd, wonder where they all went.

That's news to me.....Einstein working for Hitler? Speaking of which wasn't Hitler half Jewish himself?

unlike most people i must admit i was wrong.. i heard this through my friend.. he was wrong.. it says ..

"Einstein himself had always opposed war. He spoke against it during the First World War, and throughout the 1920s and 1930s. Hitler was rising to power in Germany, and though Einstein had renewed his German citizenship, he was considered suspect as both a Jew and a pacifist. It may be, too, that the absolutist Nazi party found that his relativity theories conflicted with what they considered pure physics. He was in California when Hitler took power in 1933, and he never returned to Germany. He took a position at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton, where he remained for the rest of his life."


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