Before I get this thread started, I would like everyone to know that i am undecided on wether or not I believe in the codes or not.

I just finished watching a Bible Codes 1-hour show on the History Channel, and 2006 supposedly begins the end of times, with 2012 being the last year. Many bad things are suppose to happen this year up to 2012. By 2012 4,000,000,000 people will be dead.

What are your opinions on this? Do you believe? I want to hear from both skeptics and believers.

Need a little more info dude.
For some reason though talking about the end of the world get's me excited.

Think about it, the biggest challange ever is just trying to stay alive.

I never saw the documentary, but I will say this. Personally, I have had some odd dreams, about natural disasters, or nuclear wars as of late. I have never had dreams like this before, and being a follower of God, I find it strange that I am getting these lately. It's hard to find a good time to talk about this, without sounding like a nut, but I for some reason feel that something bad will happen soon.

You can find the same messages as in the bible code in any book, this has been tested and proven more than once, the so-called bible code does not mean anything.

www.exodus2006.com has been saying for a while that 2006 would be the begining of the end times. Now since 2006 is here we will have to see if these bible codes on this site are accurate.

The bible Codes aren't that good at predicting the future. If you watched that special on History channel about it. Like one said something like "Al Gore" and "president" but after the elections were over and bush one it really had another word on it like "thinks" and "might become" or something.

Well many bad things happened last year, so I wouldn't doubt the worst things to start this year. Another reason I believe this is because I have been having many catastrophic dreams last year(especially one that really shook me up), but as 2005 came to an end, they suddenly stopped.

So I guess I can say I'm ready for anything that lies ahead in the near future, but if it truly does start this year, then I'm excited!

They suddenly stopped for all of the one/two night(s) we have had in 2006?

No, more like as December started

Every year people think its the end of everything. I for one choose to live each day as it comes and not worry overly much about something I couldn't do anything about anyway. And no, I really don't think there's anything to the Bible-codes except people seeing what they want to see.

Agreed, when someone breaks in on the TV and radio and mentions the fifteen million people that just got wiped out in a freak fireball from the sky, and the sea turning to blood, we can all go "Well, crap. The end of the world." Until then, I'm not concerned.

Bible codes may or may not have some validity - I lean towards "no", and am further supported by this ridiculous idea that because people *think* the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, that's their prediction for the end of the world. This is pure fiction - their calendar treats time and various other things differently than we are used to and 2012 is simply the end of a particular cycle in their recordkeeping - you simply start over from the beginning of their celandar again - the rest is alarmist, mystical ballyhoo.

We are practically the only culture in history that considers this the year 2006. Considering the each solar day is 23 hrs. 56 min. 30 some sec. (not 24 hrs.), we have plenty of time ahead of us.

The Bible code has been similar to stuff found in books like Moby Dick and other books of similar length. Any can write a book long enough that has unintential codes in it.

We have no hard evidence/proof that this 2006-2012 thing is true or not, just plenty of good enough theories to make us look into it even harder and more often.

But, that John Titor guy said there would be no Olympics in 2008.

Now if that is true, that would be a bad thing (end times, bad things, get the drift?).

And if THAT were true, everything we do is SET IN TIME.

And he is from the year 2036, which is obviously past the year 2012.

So, we have plenty of time ahead of us.

Man. John Titor has been debunked many times. I cant believe people still believe he's a time traveler from 2036!

Ya, forgot about that Mind tellin' me how he was 'debunked' plz?

How would you really claim that he was a hoax, I mean theres no real way

Hm, the world is going to end again? Last time I heard this was about 6 years ago... and nothing happened.

I must admit a few independant things point to 2012. Like the Mayan calendar (which is misinterpreted as I read above). But also the prophecies of St. Malachy who has alledgedly predicted every pope who was in office since he had his vision. He predicted the lasts popes reign will end in 2012 together with the destruction of Rome.

But I don't really believe in predictions and prophecies. But just to be on the safe side, I will go visit Rome within the next 5 years

Well, if we wake up in 2012, and the world has been turned on its ass, I want you to think about something.
If the post-Apocalyptic world becomes something akin to what we saw in the 'The Road Warrior' or 'The Postman'...with scattered tribes of people scratching their existence out of the rubble....Who's gonna be the chief warlord???

ME!!!!

Now, who;s your daddy???
BigDaddy!

Like Santa Claus, I'll remember who's been naughty or nice.

Exactly, they took Moby Dick and did the same thing.....



Ummm... never heard of John Titor, guess I will have to google him.

As for bad things happening weather wise, I believe we are supposed to be in a ten year cycle with the weather patterns.....




OMG... LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I don't believe in prophecies or anything like that - however I just wanna add something I come up with: Jesus wasn't born in year 0, this is acctually a miscalculation by a monk around 300 AD, he was infact born some years before that. And therefore won't we see anything strange happen this year. But if he was born like 4 BC we're ending up in the year 2001 or something... See my point? the apacolyps has already started! ;D

And for the record I just wanna add that the mayan calender probably was more accurate than our own, since we have been forced to change it sometimes so that the seasons don't jump around in the year the next time we have to change the calender is in like the year 3000 something...

Hope all that made sense - I'm tired

Check out the JT thread for plenty of information.

Basically though, the website author admitted to it being a publicity stunt.

It would have taken three years for the three kings to have gotten to Jesus once they saw the Star of David. So 2012 - 3 years =2009. One would subtract it because Jesus was actually born in 3bc when 0ad should have been started.

Having said that, the date in question coincides with an event in nature. An eclipse of sorts related to the sun and the center of the Galactic plane (or Galactic Equator).

See link


From the point of view of looking just at this issue it’s easy to see why someone could say that what the Mayans did was to accurately (to the day) determine the position of the sun in relation to the Galactic plane, several thousands years prior to it happening. By itself it’s rather an incredible feat, presenting a level of sophistication, in relation to astronomy, well above any other culture in existence at the time.

There are Native American legends in relation to what is supposed to happen beyond the above. One way to understand them is in relation to all the very unique forms of life described in ancient history.....







What is suggested is that these things are actually real and they exist today. What happened was that about 7 thousand years ago something changed. As a result there appearance changed into forms we commonly understand today.

One way to understand this is in relation to the concept of the mulitverse; each universe is separated by "something". In relation to the End of Days that separation fails and the life forms which are individualized by that separation coalesce into a form which is representative of the whole (this meaning us).

Beyond this and by no means is the Mayan conclusion in relation to the End of time, descriptive of the end of the world as depicted in Christendom. Specifically, it is meant to imply the end our understanding of time as we commonly refer to it, in relation to analog time keeping (seconds, hours and so on) ends. With respect to modern day science that has already begun but has not yet been applied to life in relation to the masses.

It would seem feasible to suggest that by the year 2009 or for that matter 2012 changes could start to effect the masses so as to make our conception of time (in relation to how the masses are educated) more in line with reality.

Any thoughts?

I still say no. The Mayan calendar is simply at its end, and you go back to the beginning and start over again, as it was designed to track a certain cycle that is fully known only to them, though enough research has been able to deduct most of their reasoning and calculations.

LOL as I read this I’m watching "The day after tomorrow" LOL, what a coincidence lol

sorry but i still dont understand what bible codes are?
plz help.

Basically its playing crossword puzzle with text in the bible in its original format and language.

*is scared*

The beginning of the end of time started, when time started.

When will it end? How long is a piece of string?

No time limit can be placed on it, time is limitless?

Or when the big yellow thing in the sky decides to pack up.

yeah, uhm, the mayan calender has absolutely nothing to do with the christian jesus, what-so-ever. so the mayan calender still stands as 2012, mayan's didn't even know or care if there were a jesus, because they were so far away from it all anyway.
mayan's were excellent astronomers, and with that they calculated that the world was round (way before bruno came up with that, but was then burnt at the stake...), how long it took to go around the sun, how long to go through the galaxy, how long a day - month - year was. yeah they may have been slightly off, but not by much at all. because of all this, they made the most accurate calender that even has our modern calenders beat.

Edit

hm,looked for a thread on John Titor, but came to no avail. though I found a little site about him, sounds kinda dodgy.

So we add one second to the clock for this year. When does that happen again? It isn't possible to subtract that one second of course. But, to add more?

What happens if that is really the "sign" were supposed to look for? & Seriously if it was, does it measure out to be two seconds on 2012? I'm just curious. Scared and exited don't mix too well with 'end' times crap.

In the bible, it's about the word 'day' that comes to mind. There is a reason someone says 'day' to define what day and age someone is in. Not a specific day. So when someone says 'end of times', it isn't a specific time. It's the day and age, time ect. I feel that if there is anything an end of times, people have to at least be more aware that taking the clock today so seriously, isn't something to fool around with no different than back then. I don't think anything is going to end.

Everyone can turn around and take every single clock and shut it all down if they wanted. We all will still survive. We would just have to resort to some other method of tracking everything to keep chaos from happening. Anyone back in the ancient biblical days who doesn't appreciate the fact that clocks were made to keep public chaos from happening, do not appreciate what future could be alot more advanced and calmer than thier own reality at that present moment.

If all anyone ever cared about was ending the time of people all over -2000 or so years after thier own time, I would say your NUTS. Like, how effing dare you.

How would you feel if we all turned around and just decided that in the year 3000, were sitting here saying it, writing a bible, going ---- 'well, in the year 3000 -something- the whole entire universe is going to be obliterated in one great cataclysmic implosion, that will surely absolutely eradicate every possible evidence that humanity ever existed in the first place."

Ahhhhhh, yes sir, you must be so happy with yourself saying that. Oh wait I have an idea sir. "What's that?"

Well, sir I think in the year 4000, ( omg no ), yes sir, everything is going to EXPLODE. We will all die. Thats right, no not your theory that in 3000 everything implodes, sorry. Were gonna have to tolerate another 1000 years.

Should I call 911?, it looks like your gonna have a heart attack!!!

That is just my skeptical view of it all. It isn't like we can turn around and say, "HEY BACK THERE" about circa 2000 years ago, and tell all the people who died, your gonna be ressurected, just so we can kill you all over again!!!! ARE you happy???? Good, it's just revenge. Thanks!!!!

Amy,

John Titor is a man that said he was from the future. I remember doing a rather large debate about in him in an older thread on this board I believe. He had a lot of claims, and their is a lot of information he gave regarding the future of events. All in all, most people claim, he it was all fake. The great thing being, is that he could always default to the fact that the future could of changed, because of what we know now, so the events he speaks about may never take place.

There is quite a bit about him, and Im not gonna try and sum it all up in this post. I would advise going to the website below for a more indepth re-search on him.

JOHN TITOR

Thank you, Azalin.




Ummm... okay. I just read the link you supplied and IMO he is no better these fly-by-night psychics who prey on human weaknesses. I am amazed at how little common sense people use when it comes to what they will believe in.

its a lot more than that bible code and the mayan calendar, many pshychics (however u spell dat) and remote viewers n wutnot cant forseee past the year of 2012,,,,,, it is also now interperted as not the end of the world but as the evolving of our planet (if u look at it on a more spiritual level) and as it evloves it switches to a highier frequency or sumtin ,,, which means that we as its inhabitors will evolve with it , and supposably those who cant will just not survive ,,, sumthing among those lines ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oka anyone dat knows it more detailed plz add to it

terrenace mckenna is probably the most credible chap ive seen done any serious thinking into it all, but even then no matter, time will only tell, so whats the point.

I believe in the codes but do not believe you can use them to predict the future. I think they are there to show how unique the Torah is. The predictions are written right in the scriptures, you don't have to hunt for them.

I have heard the aztec calender stopped at 2012, so it was the Mayan not Aztec? But a different calender, that I should not speak of, states a world changing event will take place in March 2006. I am very interested to see how acurate it is.

Isaiah, 19:19-20 :-

In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord. And it shall be a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

Is the great pyramid of egypt a monument to a single man ....or a monument to mankind?
Could the empty sarcophagus in the great chamber of the great pyramid be a symbolic receptacle for the soul of man?
Is the great pyramid destined to be the only remaing physical sign that man ever existed on this planet?
There is a legend that the ascending passage to the great chamber where that receptacle
lies marks the ascent of mankind. The ascent is marked in time and at the entrance to the chamber the clock stops at 2012.
Time is running out.....

I would have to say both.



Again, I would have to say both literal and symbolic.




Nah, there will still be others around to rebuild...say, 144,000??

jehova witnesses???

bible code smible code

Did anybody try getting lotto numbers?

All of the above.

Except the bible code in the 144 is not the same as the more popular one, hence the small number of people.

King David's throne will be totally rebuilt before Jesus comes again.
The throne is being built now, as far as I know anyway, I know there are already blue-prints for it though.
The throne will be finished either before or during the tribulation because the anti-christ will sit himself down and declare he is God.
So I believe something is gonna rock n' roll real soon.

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^ SuperPancakes quote says hes quoting "Mars" when he quoted "Pison". Wtf?

That's not where I am from...

I'll sure be glad when 2012 is over so I won't have to hear any more about this "the world is coming to an end" nonsence.

I find it amusing that when I was fifteen I did some divination that said I'd die whenI was 29... Year 2012... It was until a few years later I started hearing about all these prophecies... It's got me kinda worried :\

Me too pal, me too. I'll be 22 years old, I don't want to worry about the end of the world. But once more 2012 will be "delayed" and they will set it as 2018 or whatever.

And 4,000,000,000 out of our current population is 2 billion, not 144,000.

Good point, Kaze, good point.

I am going to sound like an old record at this rate!

One thing that really did strike me as .... yeah... I can imagine that from Graham Hancock is crustal displacement.

Assuming (you generally you have to) that weather cycles are constant and should there be any abnormal year, across a say 5000 year period they would even out.

Basically Graham argues that the weight of ice at the poles causes the crust to become unstable. As if you were to place blu-tak on a ball. Eventually a sudden shift occurs.
I can certainly relate this as possible.

Taking into account glaciers etc.... why could an amount of weight shift the crust.

Could this be a cycle that has been talked about? I dont know.....

What I do know is that if this displacement were true.... global warming will aid in its preventions.

Maybe 2012 is the last year where we are able to reduce CO2 emissions before the CO2 output from melting ice is such that we can do nothing.
That would signal a 50 year slide to a miserable society.

How can you say it is the end of the world anyhow? Surely as a youngseter whatever predicament or situation you are entered into becomes the norm.
If the young accept where they are as normal, they are unable to say it is an end?

TC
R47

If the majority of life is killed, adults and the such, no generation will be around to raise the children. Plus, the end of the world will more then likely kill all of us, and the ones that did somehow survive, would not for long with lack of food and survival skills. I assume it would be mass extinction, much like what happened with the dinosaurs. If it is global warming that triggers the ice caps, then we are looking at another Ice Age. In that case, no human would be able to live through a 2 km high ice slide.

Admittedly there is evidence that areas, especially Britain would see a drop in temperature.
There are already concerns of the amount of fresh water affecting the gulf stream.

True on a global scale a mass extinction, but to create that is a monumental event such as asteroid, the yellowstone volcanoe.

I do not see war blanketing the skies. I look to Iran and N. Korea, but no.... I cant see anything so large as to cause mass extinction by 2012.

I would argue there will be serious implications after around 2040, but only environmental.

You only need a community of around 50 tribespeople in the Amazon to keep the race going.

They have been self sufficient for centuaries (millenia?), and it is only the reliance and communication with the 21st centuary traveller that poses a threat to them.

Worst case I can see? City folk and the ensuing scramble for food reducing population, but this is only the stuff films are made of.

I hope I am right, but knowledge and preperation should see us through.
Technology would only help.

2km of ice at the equator? Would not happen. I do not know for fact, but is there enough consumable water to create 2km worldwide?

There has been land life during and after every previous ice age.

Eskimos are trained in the survival on ice, and there should always be a food supply in the sea. Bar again environmental (including volcanic polution).

why 4 billion?

Not at the equator, but in Canada and so fourth, it would be un-liveable. The inuit people can survive off of animals and creatures within the water, but after an avalanche of such proportions, the animals would have nothing to graze. They would all be covered under snow, and the water would be un-reachable by any human with at least a hundred feet of pure ice between the land and the water.