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Humanity is so far behind the curve of self knowledge that I sometimes think we will never catch up. There is much to learn and teach. I am getting a little long in the tooth, but before I go, I will begin to push for learning the wealth of data and information that he (Lubicz) tired to convey. It is a course in life existence that we must begin. I call it Anthopromnic in nature. It represents the gestalt learning of everything in symbols form to the endth degree. Has anyone here read the material?
I have not read it but a link would be nice - you have my attention.
I've not read either. Does this have anything to do with origin of language, body movement, shapes, shapes of letters, waves, and sounds? Along those lines or am I being an apple to your orange on that?
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It represents the gestalt learning of everything in symbols form to the endth degree. Has anyone here read the material?
The symbols?
If so, yes.
Google "The Temple of Man" plus Lubicz. You will find some information on the book.
I am starting a new section on this means of thought...Anthropomnic Thought. See some of my first material at: http://www.enigmni.com/Roc.writingsdeep.htm
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Google "The Temple of Man" plus Lubicz. You will find some information on the book.
I did last night. Very interesting indeed. I especially like the part about "Jack" coming to the temple at a certain time, which is desired, or calculated by god, and that the temple and "Jack" are of the same construction.
This makes absolute sense to me, and I have no doubt that we speak the same "language".
I also checked out your website and your writing. Thanks for sharing that with us.
I am a big fan of the "loop" that you mention.
guys, whatever you do, don't take this conversation to PM's! This ignorant soul may not be able to participate but is very interested.
Interesting stuff, is this anything to do with the The Akashic Records? If i'm barking up the wrong tree sorry, but would like to hear more!
I would say everything is connected through a collective consciousness. The 'Memory of Nature' talked about in Rosicrucian writings is much like what Cayce talked about.
I am sorry, I did not understand that part about "Jack".
"Jack" is anyone who feels the urge[ncy] to pry open their third eye.
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To fully grasp De Lubicz’ vision we need to consider the Egyptian mindset from within the “Great Chain of Being” and remove our modernist and secular theories from the stage. For a moment consider the Egyptian perception, time, space, direction – all have religious connotations. Time is not simply a clicking of a digital clock, time is measured by the flow of religious festivals, time within the day is correlated to stories about the gods. Every moment hence is sacred and full of spiritual intent. De Lubicz went further and decoded the architecture of many of the temples, for example, he spent years decoding the Temple of Luxor showing that its design was based on the human body and that its dimensions reflected sacred proportions (similar to those found in Chartes and other cathedrals build on Masonic dimensions). Yet what does it mean ? What does it matter that a temple is like a human body. The significance can only be understood when we consider the experience of the average Egyptian within a traditional culture based on an appreciation of the unity between the individual, the state and the divine. As “Jack” the Egyptian approaches the temple, he is not isolated from it. He approaches it at a certain time, correlated to a god or religious concept, from a direction intent with meaning. He is not isolated from the architecture, it is alive. Its form, shape and dimension all communicate to him. He knows they have the same proportions as his body and hence he is part of the architecture, he is connected to the temple and it to him. Further to this, he knows it has been placed in a “sacred location” and hence is connected to his mother land and to his people. So there is no division, there is a harmonic and unity between the individual, time, space, direction, architecture, land and people.
As the temple rite begins “Jack” the Egyptian does not feel that it is only for the priestclass or that they get more than he does. He knows that he is part of a great chain of being, an organic state where he is linked to all others in the country from the lowest worker to the Pharoah himself. As the Pharoah acts he influences the whole state, as he practices the ancient rites all are affected. There is no an artificial division between religion, politics, the divine and the secular, the Egyptian experience is one harmonic, one unity which encompasses all aspects. This unity was the foundation for the Egyptian Harmonic, it sustained Egypt for thousands of years, indeed, Egyptian art did not change for some 2,000 years until the advent of Arkenaten and then returned to its “Old style” until its fall. The great unity of Egypt was its sustaining vision, its essence was not only found in the state or political structure or in the priesthood, but was within every aspect of its expression, from art to architecture, from music to medicine. Like a hologram, even a single artifact can reveal the language of the greater form. Schwaller de Lubicz understood this and used the mathematics of the temples to give us a glimpse of the greater vision that of Egypt.
As the temple rite begins “Jack” the Egyptian does not feel that it is only for the priestclass or that they get more than he does. He knows that he is part of a great chain of being, an organic state where he is linked to all others in the country from the lowest worker to the Pharoah himself. As the Pharoah acts he influences the whole state, as he practices the ancient rites all are affected. There is no an artificial division between religion, politics, the divine and the secular, the Egyptian experience is one harmonic, one unity which encompasses all aspects. This unity was the foundation for the Egyptian Harmonic, it sustained Egypt for thousands of years, indeed, Egyptian art did not change for some 2,000 years until the advent of Arkenaten and then returned to its “Old style” until its fall. The great unity of Egypt was its sustaining vision, its essence was not only found in the state or political structure or in the priesthood, but was within every aspect of its expression, from art to architecture, from music to medicine. Like a hologram, even a single artifact can reveal the language of the greater form. Schwaller de Lubicz understood this and used the mathematics of the temples to give us a glimpse of the greater vision that of Egypt.
I had not read that. It is not unlike the other materials I have reviewed however. I speed read almost everything and your post shows the worth of slowing down every once in a while. Life on the Fly...that is why I need to reread my own stuff...I once was more introspective...old age causes one to hurry to get everything in before moving on. Thank you for slowing me down.
That quote on egypt really inspires me to read more on this subject, thanks
You are both quite welcome.
I think that slowing down and taking time to smell the roses is a great parable, and we are never to old to "see" these things.
My research has gotten me to this point on the path, and it has taken at least fifteen years to get to this point. At times, I would become impatient, wanting the answer to show itself faster or brighter in my vision.
But, I can honestly say that I am very close to the temple now. In fact I have been told that I am sneaking around the temple, coming in the back door, and that I need to come in the front door.
I think that slowing down and taking time to smell the roses is a great parable, and we are never to old to "see" these things.
My research has gotten me to this point on the path, and it has taken at least fifteen years to get to this point. At times, I would become impatient, wanting the answer to show itself faster or brighter in my vision.
But, I can honestly say that I am very close to the temple now. In fact I have been told that I am sneaking around the temple, coming in the back door, and that I need to come in the front door.
A DEEPER PERCEPTION QUANTIFIED, EXISTENCE IN TRUTH
How powerful is the act of "seeing?" Few of us ever stop to think of this awesome operation of perceiving the manifest universe via on board sensory systems built into our very being. Seeing is equated with beliefs, but total sensory contact with reality goes beyond just the traditional five sensory experiences that has enlightened our philosophers and scientists to the point of seeking the ultimate answers to our precise existence.
Mankind’s oldest records say that ancient man was in awe at the sight of light (light is invisible, its effect is seen), and its energizing amplification of experiential processes. Man spent much time writing and meditating upon the complexities of the visual flame. To perceive the world beyond simple, yet empiric-measuring terms was his contribution to us. But did he know what we are only just now coming to understand through quantum physics? Add the new breakthrough technologies like holography, fractal geometry, virtual reality, bio-tech, nanotechnology, and others -- then, you are speaking of powerful concepts worthy of worship.
If perception is the "quantifier" of the world of reality, could this world also be an illusion created by the process of the essence -- the greatest of all virtual realities? Men of old thought that this world we live in was the projected playground of God. That he lived through each localization or being-of-atomic-makeup (all parts of the universe) in a many faceted dance of the elements -- matter. His Essence was the Universe of Megalight, which includes every pixel, or every particle composed of matter -- light -- DNA; and, light indicates prior knowledge, before events.
The Sumerians, Egyptians, and Indus Valley people were the intellects of the mysteries handed down in myth. Some of their most ancient traditions, reflected within the living Hindu religion, seeped through to us from the past in the form of Vedas or songs-of-life, which were recorded in archaic Sanskrit. The secrets of a powerful past lie hidden in what these ancients quantified from their perceptions.
The old texts of the Hindu indicate that reality was a love-act of "seeing" the gods (Devas) or "bright ones," and to be mirrored by that power with an observation or feedback. The process of "seeing" the deity was the sacred part of life called "Dar-san." The believer was consecrated by just the act of Dar-san and thus became all knowing, or worthy of being. Seeing was a form of touching or quantifying (measuring for value). The eye that comprehended the All was the third eye, which went beyond five-sensory perception into the realm of intuition and hyperphysics. The world of the ancient Hindu was many faceted and many godded -- what some would term "Holospirited."
The act of worship for one god was termed "kathenotheism." In this process the devotee’s Dar-san activated and energized the god focused upon. The god became a reality in the life of the beholder, and was no longer a wave, but a particle or part of god, once observed. This many faceted holomovement of "be-ness or being-ness" came to be a part of the religion of Hinduism, the oldest surviving religion of modern man. The very purpose of living to a Hindu is to get out of the feedback loop, and to get off the wheel of existence -- to escape the cycle of manifestation. The goal is to merge into the ultimate and absolute ONCE once again -- to return to the dream or creative element that is timeless. When outside the mega-holographic field of the universe, the being returns to the realm we visit when we release consciousness from the quantifiable form.
Quantum Physics is today’s great measuring devise for all mathematics that make up this, the greatest of all virtual realities. We live in, on and through the greatest assemblage computer of all in a broadcast. It is in an overwhelming movement of quantum reality seeming to comprehend itself through constant feedback-looping to calculate and recalculate at blinding speed, its very becoming known prior.
It is an electromagnetic broadcast that is both waves and particles, interacting with gravity and the weak/strong nuclear force (the three facets of Godhead). Each quality is fundamental and is the very dual personality of manifestation. Neither state of being is complete unto itself, but both states are necessary to give us a complete holo-field of reality. We can never know both states at once, thus never knowing the particulate or wave at one time. As an illusive wave, reality smears out over space where it seems to be everywhere at once, gathering quantum information about the probability of some potential state. Amplify this process to interconnect and influence everything else in space, as it is moving, and you have what we discern as reality within Sequential Time.
This reality is the opposite of the Big Bang...rather, the universe is the Big Broadcast of the Quantinuum, which gets its power from an unseen state of dreams or creative potential -- what some call God. This unseen state exists in timelessness and is thus not able to be quantified. Some see this great broadcast of quantum potential as the ultimate virtual reality, which communicates within and without inner, connected matter. This reality issues from a dream potential background or field into the illusive material state of being and becoming.
The edges of our distant memory about being within this realm are smooth, with few, if any perturbations in the conscious state. Beyond this world lies the potential and its continuum of mindscape or dreamscape. In this world, everything is known at once. Some say we are in touch with the frontiers of a mental hyper-fractal feedback loop that interconnects both beginning and end in an infinite process full of change. Many have equated the mind with the universe. Perhaps we all share this mind on some other level as it seeks to experience existence via ultra-sophistication built beyond the particulate level, on toward the gestalt collection of the One.
How powerful is the act of "seeing?" Few of us ever stop to think of this awesome operation of perceiving the manifest universe via on board sensory systems built into our very being. Seeing is equated with beliefs, but total sensory contact with reality goes beyond just the traditional five sensory experiences that has enlightened our philosophers and scientists to the point of seeking the ultimate answers to our precise existence.
Mankind’s oldest records say that ancient man was in awe at the sight of light (light is invisible, its effect is seen), and its energizing amplification of experiential processes. Man spent much time writing and meditating upon the complexities of the visual flame. To perceive the world beyond simple, yet empiric-measuring terms was his contribution to us. But did he know what we are only just now coming to understand through quantum physics? Add the new breakthrough technologies like holography, fractal geometry, virtual reality, bio-tech, nanotechnology, and others -- then, you are speaking of powerful concepts worthy of worship.
If perception is the "quantifier" of the world of reality, could this world also be an illusion created by the process of the essence -- the greatest of all virtual realities? Men of old thought that this world we live in was the projected playground of God. That he lived through each localization or being-of-atomic-makeup (all parts of the universe) in a many faceted dance of the elements -- matter. His Essence was the Universe of Megalight, which includes every pixel, or every particle composed of matter -- light -- DNA; and, light indicates prior knowledge, before events.
The Sumerians, Egyptians, and Indus Valley people were the intellects of the mysteries handed down in myth. Some of their most ancient traditions, reflected within the living Hindu religion, seeped through to us from the past in the form of Vedas or songs-of-life, which were recorded in archaic Sanskrit. The secrets of a powerful past lie hidden in what these ancients quantified from their perceptions.
The old texts of the Hindu indicate that reality was a love-act of "seeing" the gods (Devas) or "bright ones," and to be mirrored by that power with an observation or feedback. The process of "seeing" the deity was the sacred part of life called "Dar-san." The believer was consecrated by just the act of Dar-san and thus became all knowing, or worthy of being. Seeing was a form of touching or quantifying (measuring for value). The eye that comprehended the All was the third eye, which went beyond five-sensory perception into the realm of intuition and hyperphysics. The world of the ancient Hindu was many faceted and many godded -- what some would term "Holospirited."
The act of worship for one god was termed "kathenotheism." In this process the devotee’s Dar-san activated and energized the god focused upon. The god became a reality in the life of the beholder, and was no longer a wave, but a particle or part of god, once observed. This many faceted holomovement of "be-ness or being-ness" came to be a part of the religion of Hinduism, the oldest surviving religion of modern man. The very purpose of living to a Hindu is to get out of the feedback loop, and to get off the wheel of existence -- to escape the cycle of manifestation. The goal is to merge into the ultimate and absolute ONCE once again -- to return to the dream or creative element that is timeless. When outside the mega-holographic field of the universe, the being returns to the realm we visit when we release consciousness from the quantifiable form.
Quantum Physics is today’s great measuring devise for all mathematics that make up this, the greatest of all virtual realities. We live in, on and through the greatest assemblage computer of all in a broadcast. It is in an overwhelming movement of quantum reality seeming to comprehend itself through constant feedback-looping to calculate and recalculate at blinding speed, its very becoming known prior.
It is an electromagnetic broadcast that is both waves and particles, interacting with gravity and the weak/strong nuclear force (the three facets of Godhead). Each quality is fundamental and is the very dual personality of manifestation. Neither state of being is complete unto itself, but both states are necessary to give us a complete holo-field of reality. We can never know both states at once, thus never knowing the particulate or wave at one time. As an illusive wave, reality smears out over space where it seems to be everywhere at once, gathering quantum information about the probability of some potential state. Amplify this process to interconnect and influence everything else in space, as it is moving, and you have what we discern as reality within Sequential Time.
This reality is the opposite of the Big Bang...rather, the universe is the Big Broadcast of the Quantinuum, which gets its power from an unseen state of dreams or creative potential -- what some call God. This unseen state exists in timelessness and is thus not able to be quantified. Some see this great broadcast of quantum potential as the ultimate virtual reality, which communicates within and without inner, connected matter. This reality issues from a dream potential background or field into the illusive material state of being and becoming.
The edges of our distant memory about being within this realm are smooth, with few, if any perturbations in the conscious state. Beyond this world lies the potential and its continuum of mindscape or dreamscape. In this world, everything is known at once. Some say we are in touch with the frontiers of a mental hyper-fractal feedback loop that interconnects both beginning and end in an infinite process full of change. Many have equated the mind with the universe. Perhaps we all share this mind on some other level as it seeks to experience existence via ultra-sophistication built beyond the particulate level, on toward the gestalt collection of the One.
Forget something?
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I am starting a new section on this means of thought...Anthropomnic Thought. See some of my first material at: http://www.enigmni.com/Roc.writingsdeep.htm
I thought your writings were very interesting indeed. I hope science will bridge the gap soon so I can prove what I deeply believe, which coincides much with what you are speaking about. I do have a loss when I get to a certain place and confusion sets in. It begins to make sense to me and then my linear mind looses grasp. Very deeply thoughtful. Good luck with your findings and thanks for putting all the deep thoughts into words for others to read.
Well, thank you also for being so very kind. Few are like you.
Wow. Thanks for posting your thoughts.
To me, it's not that much different than the story in Genesis; locked out of Eden.
To me, it's not that much different than the story in Genesis; locked out of Eden.
As a sweet dawning of effulgent light spreading upon the mindscape of humanity, comes the messenger of fate whose media to man becomes complete and irrefutable. The mind of humanity is now awakened to the totality of all that has transpired in this the physical plane of being. At no other time in this world, has all been given to the living psyche of contemplation (man), than the period henceforth called the Omega Age. An Age where humanity must strive to awaken is upon the threshold of existence.
We can no longer hide from who and what we are, for the scope of all existence shows itself in panorama to those who reflect upon the mirror of the soul. Each of us has worked collectively yet individually unknowing to contribute and align Ancient/Past to Future/Time. The Godly Media is saying, " Can you see what I am showing you?" No one can hide, for all is known and all has been presented via the messages in human culture to the mapping of data within each and everyone's soul. We stand motionless in the sight of its power to our memory and soon we will all know there is only one source of its issuance.
The physical sources in the common infrastructure of this new awakening are many and they issue from advertising, marketing, public relations, film, video, DVD, CD, books, papers, radio, and word of mouth. It is a saturation of data wrapped in media that we are feeling. Even the very air we breathe is inundated with the interlacing of the duration of All Time and All Knowing. Reading between the lines of secular media becomes almost unimportant in the face of the real directive. Empathic we become to experience all the cinema, and all the data of the Internet and World Wide Web. It is all broadcast of our soulular travels telling us who and what we are in this realm of physical existence. Finally, it is all becoming apparent via the silent messages of our dreams. Humanity can now become more.
Our computers stare at us permeated with redundant data so overwhelming with who and what we are, that we cannot truly ascertain all at once -- the magnitude of this all-knowing state. Delivered to man's intellect are the compilations of ancient wars and other aspects of social confluence for each and every possible scenario of existence on this Earth throughout history.
There is no hiding from this raining of information upon the nervous system of the structure of our lens on life. Our brains know the source/s of information and where to find the answers to the Why of our existence. Truth and lie cannot be hidden for all is shown in starkly apparent stature. Positive and negative behavior is known to the deepest soul. We can no longer fool one another when the dawning of this event becomes obvious to every soul in this realm.
The old secret of "doing unto others as you would do unto yourself" becomes indisputable when it dawns upon one that we are all part of this grand scheme. That is why truth has always been the focus of humanity's pathway in this realm of being. There can be no other way but to Love One another since each of us are the Other. Everything we perceive to build our mental being is gathered by information fed back to us via the Other to our lens on life...the brain and then the mind. It is the universal mind we build. If there were no Other, there would be no -- us for data feeds the mind. The One is linked to the Other in this Time/Space. If we lie to the Other, we lie to the self… and the mirror of our mind becomes aberrant. How can we act upon information that is not truth.
Many brothers and sisters of this realm of the Moiré Arena have said that there is no religion higher than Truth. When man seeks to control the Other outside of himself, he plays false and the mirror of life is chipped and marked. This realm is full of illusions and now all the illusions are manifesting into data that corrects them to the Truth. He who lies is known and this plane of being is about to undergo a catharsis.
Why must all this happen? Why can't we all go on living our lies and telling each other lies to spice up the environment. Could it be that flippancy has overstayed its welcome due to its enormity of utilization to co-opt truth for the convenience of gratification? Indeed so.
Just as Einstein suggested that we move to the macro viewpoint in order to see more clearly the plan of God -- we move out/up, and dimensionally to amplify the data of all we see from above. Not only do we perceive more territory -- we can focus simultaneously on one object and inculcate all the data relating to its singularity. God's cursor has amplified within the mind's eye of the beholder. As each day passes, event sequences become whole documentaries encompassing associated events into a clear picture of cause and effect to our souls. With each tic of the pico second, data expands geometrically to encompass even more reason to happenstance.
Upon the soulular reference-plane, mapping at exponential speed, is the accumulation of humanity's knowledge and wisdom of itself. The mind is boggled as it strains to decipher massive thought globules that contain dense information about each singular particulate. Lives and their complications flash past our mental cursor-on-existence (brain) and we see the familiarity of our own attempt at the prime objective of being here in Time/space. As we see this euphorically-experienced flash of the Ancient-of-Days templated with the Days of Our Lives, we know something big is about to happen to humanity.
Positive and negative actions swirling through the broadcast of being is evident. What wrongs have been committed against man by man? As wars rage throughout man’s reference maps…we see our destiny unless we change our ways, this experiment will cease to be. Who will step forward and join this burgeoning call for humanity to join in coherency?
We can no longer hide from who and what we are, for the scope of all existence shows itself in panorama to those who reflect upon the mirror of the soul. Each of us has worked collectively yet individually unknowing to contribute and align Ancient/Past to Future/Time. The Godly Media is saying, " Can you see what I am showing you?" No one can hide, for all is known and all has been presented via the messages in human culture to the mapping of data within each and everyone's soul. We stand motionless in the sight of its power to our memory and soon we will all know there is only one source of its issuance.
The physical sources in the common infrastructure of this new awakening are many and they issue from advertising, marketing, public relations, film, video, DVD, CD, books, papers, radio, and word of mouth. It is a saturation of data wrapped in media that we are feeling. Even the very air we breathe is inundated with the interlacing of the duration of All Time and All Knowing. Reading between the lines of secular media becomes almost unimportant in the face of the real directive. Empathic we become to experience all the cinema, and all the data of the Internet and World Wide Web. It is all broadcast of our soulular travels telling us who and what we are in this realm of physical existence. Finally, it is all becoming apparent via the silent messages of our dreams. Humanity can now become more.
Our computers stare at us permeated with redundant data so overwhelming with who and what we are, that we cannot truly ascertain all at once -- the magnitude of this all-knowing state. Delivered to man's intellect are the compilations of ancient wars and other aspects of social confluence for each and every possible scenario of existence on this Earth throughout history.
There is no hiding from this raining of information upon the nervous system of the structure of our lens on life. Our brains know the source/s of information and where to find the answers to the Why of our existence. Truth and lie cannot be hidden for all is shown in starkly apparent stature. Positive and negative behavior is known to the deepest soul. We can no longer fool one another when the dawning of this event becomes obvious to every soul in this realm.
The old secret of "doing unto others as you would do unto yourself" becomes indisputable when it dawns upon one that we are all part of this grand scheme. That is why truth has always been the focus of humanity's pathway in this realm of being. There can be no other way but to Love One another since each of us are the Other. Everything we perceive to build our mental being is gathered by information fed back to us via the Other to our lens on life...the brain and then the mind. It is the universal mind we build. If there were no Other, there would be no -- us for data feeds the mind. The One is linked to the Other in this Time/Space. If we lie to the Other, we lie to the self… and the mirror of our mind becomes aberrant. How can we act upon information that is not truth.
Many brothers and sisters of this realm of the Moiré Arena have said that there is no religion higher than Truth. When man seeks to control the Other outside of himself, he plays false and the mirror of life is chipped and marked. This realm is full of illusions and now all the illusions are manifesting into data that corrects them to the Truth. He who lies is known and this plane of being is about to undergo a catharsis.
Why must all this happen? Why can't we all go on living our lies and telling each other lies to spice up the environment. Could it be that flippancy has overstayed its welcome due to its enormity of utilization to co-opt truth for the convenience of gratification? Indeed so.
Just as Einstein suggested that we move to the macro viewpoint in order to see more clearly the plan of God -- we move out/up, and dimensionally to amplify the data of all we see from above. Not only do we perceive more territory -- we can focus simultaneously on one object and inculcate all the data relating to its singularity. God's cursor has amplified within the mind's eye of the beholder. As each day passes, event sequences become whole documentaries encompassing associated events into a clear picture of cause and effect to our souls. With each tic of the pico second, data expands geometrically to encompass even more reason to happenstance.
Upon the soulular reference-plane, mapping at exponential speed, is the accumulation of humanity's knowledge and wisdom of itself. The mind is boggled as it strains to decipher massive thought globules that contain dense information about each singular particulate. Lives and their complications flash past our mental cursor-on-existence (brain) and we see the familiarity of our own attempt at the prime objective of being here in Time/space. As we see this euphorically-experienced flash of the Ancient-of-Days templated with the Days of Our Lives, we know something big is about to happen to humanity.
Positive and negative actions swirling through the broadcast of being is evident. What wrongs have been committed against man by man? As wars rage throughout man’s reference maps…we see our destiny unless we change our ways, this experiment will cease to be. Who will step forward and join this burgeoning call for humanity to join in coherency?
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