captain pish
Jan 23 2006, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(rhylin @ Jan 23 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]1033028[/snapback]
yes vlad tepes
was real but just because he is in the history books doesn't prove that vampires exist. He happened to be the historical character Bram Stokers used in his book 'Dracula'. AND how can Vlad Tepes being an impaler have anything to do with him being a vampire? Do you know how many sick kings/queens/rulers there were throughout time???

What about Caligula? He was a mass murderer, loved to see death. Does that make him a vampire?? Dude don't get angry at me because I don't believe your "views" on vampirism.

Well said. The word vampire means drinker of blood OK! The vampire that the writer of the first post wants to be is the FICTIONAL vampire like the one in bram stokers dracula which was the first ever dracula and that means ITS COMPLETLEY MADE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vampires exist but not the ones that you see in movies. They are mainly goths who listen think that by drinking blood they can become undead like the FICTIONAL dracula. Sorry guys but it aint happening. ITS NOT REAL, DONT WASTE YOUR LIFE, DO SOMETHG OTHER THAN PRETEND THAT YOURE A VAMPIRE LIKE GET A JOB!
rhylin
Jan 24 2006, 09:59 PM
QUOTE(captain pish @ Jan 23 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1033108[/snapback]
Well said. The word vampire means drinker of blood OK! The vampire that the writer of the first post wants to be is the FICTIONAL vampire like the one in bram stokers dracula which was the first ever dracula and that means ITS COMPLETLEY MADE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vampires exist but not the ones that you see in movies. They are mainly goths who listen think that by drinking blood they can become undead like the FICTIONAL dracula. Sorry guys but it aint happening. ITS NOT REAL, DONT WASTE YOUR LIFE, DO SOMETHG OTHER THAN PRETEND THAT YOURE A VAMPIRE LIKE GET A JOB!
dang hehe. Well I will quote the very intelligent Ebony from the other vampire post:
QUOTE(Ebony @ Jan 23 2006, 03:01 PM)
Look, no one's here to knock anyone else down, it's just that some people have short tempers when it comes to others waltzing into a topic and saying "such and such is real" without any discernable or coherant reason to believe so. The fact is, vampires and many other creatures may or may not exist, we'll never know unless we bag one for real. You must consider that there are two sides of every story and most of us are trying to provide two logical arguments.
You can't expect people to just fold because of something that happened so long ago it can't even be substantiated. Especially when there's no proof that the incident was even recorded correctly, and for that matter, translated correctly.
Isn't she wonderful? Smart lady
Captain_Boots
Feb 24 2006, 06:50 AM
Just a quick note, A vampire is a human body posessed by a demon at the moment the soul leaves upon death. to be turned is simply to die. Your body is stolen after that, though you may be promised other things *demons are liars it is the root of their existance* The Blood drinking probably helps the body go, since the heart must be stopped... hmm...like a tick. did you know they have no heart?
rhylin
Feb 26 2006, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(Captain_Boots @ Feb 24 2006, 01:50 AM) [snapback]1076489[/snapback]
Just a quick note, A vampire is a human body posessed by a demon at the moment the soul leaves upon death. to be turned is simply to die. Your body is stolen after that, though you may be promised other things *demons are liars it is the root of their existance* The Blood drinking probably helps the body go, since the heart must be stopped... hmm...like a tick. did you know they have no heart?
interesting
opinion that's all it is.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Feb 26 2006, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(Captain_Boots @ Feb 24 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]1076489[/snapback]
Just a quick note, A vampire is a human body posessed by a demon at the moment the soul leaves upon death. to be turned is simply to die. Your body is stolen after that, though you may be promised other things *demons are liars it is the root of their existance* The Blood drinking probably helps the body go, since the heart must be stopped... hmm...like a tick. did you know they have no heart?
Been watching too much Buffy.
rhylin
Feb 26 2006, 10:43 PM
and there is another fine example of people believing too much of what is on TV. why is there so many threads of vampires? .... and why am I still reading them lol
jobot37
Feb 26 2006, 10:55 PM
QUOTE(Captain_Boots @ Feb 23 2006, 10:50 PM) [snapback]1076489[/snapback]
Just a quick note, A vampire is a human body posessed by a demon at the moment the soul leaves upon death. to be turned is simply to die. Your body is stolen after that, though you may be promised other things *demons are liars it is the root of their existance* The Blood drinking probably helps the body go, since the heart must be stopped... hmm...like a tick. did you know they have no heart?
O-kay! Will keep that in mind. Thanks, Chief!
Mostar
Feb 27 2006, 05:38 AM
QUOTE(jpatt @ Jan 5 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]1005455[/snapback]
What is the point of this post? The existance of vampires? The history of vampires? Comparisons of vampires in different cultures? People that claim to be vampires?
About some probably depressed teen wanting to be a vampire....
Arsenik
Mar 2 2006, 10:28 PM
QUOTE(Captain_Boots @ Feb 23 2006, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1076489[/snapback]
Just a quick note, A vampire is a human body posessed by a demon at the moment the soul leaves upon death. to be turned is simply to die. Your body is stolen after that, though you may be promised other things *demons are liars it is the root of their existance* The Blood drinking probably helps the body go, since the heart must be stopped... hmm...like a tick. did you know they have no heart?
Yeah....about that...no.
Other than the above post, I'm glad to see that there hasn't been too much vampirism bashing lately.
isis-999
Mar 3 2006, 03:36 AM
wow the post above you is a trip Nik....I guess everyone has their own idea of what makes a vampire... Too bad that person does not understand the medical reason's people tend to drink blood....
Bahamut_0
Mar 3 2006, 04:04 AM
QUOTE(rhylin @ Jan 17 2006, 09:56 PM) [snapback]1026146[/snapback]
I remember this, there was a bizzare news thread about this, after seeing what he would do many people in that thread claimed that they would vote for him if it wasn't the impaling stuff, damn, even I would vote for him if I was from minesotta...
justjohn
Mar 3 2006, 10:41 AM
Back in the day, I knew some vampires. They`re called Goths.
We used to beat them up all the time.
I feel bad now that im older though. Should have let them have their fun and grow out of it.
Megalomania
Mar 3 2006, 11:15 AM
"Natural phenomena that propagate the vampire myth
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Pathology and vampirism
Some people argue that vampire stories might have been influenced by a rare illness called porphyria. The disease disrupts the production of heme. People with extreme but rare cases of this hereditary disease can be so sensitive to sunlight that they can get a sunburn through heavy cloud cover, causing them to avoid sunlight — although it should be noted that the idea that vampires are harmed by sunlight is largely from modern fiction and not the original beliefs. Certain forms of porphyria are also associated with neurological symptoms, which can create psychiatric disorders. However, the hypotheses that porphyria sufferers crave the heme in human blood, or that the consumption of blood might ease the symptoms of porphyria, are based on a severe misunderstanding of the disease. There is no real evidence to suggest that porphyria had anything to do with the development of the original folklore, as the hypothesis is mainly based off the characteristics of the modern vampire in any case. [4]
Others argue that there is a relationship between vampirism and rabies, since people suffering from this disease would avoid sunlight and looking into mirrors and would froth at the mouth. This froth could sometimes look like blood, being red in colour. However, like porphyria, there is little evidence to prove any links between vampires and rabies.
There have been a number of murderers who performed seemingly vampiric rituals upon their victims. Serial killers Peter Kurten and Richard Trenton Chase were both called "vampires" in the tabloids after they were discovered drinking the blood of the people they murdered, for example. Legends that Erzsébet Báthory, a medieval Slovak aristocrat, murdered hundreds of women in bizarre rituals involving blood, helped mold contemporary vampire legends.
Some psychologists in modern times recognize a disorder called clinical vampirism (or Renfield Syndrome, from Dracula's insect-eating henchman, Renfield, in the novel by Bram Stoker) in which the victim is obsessed with drinking blood, either from animals or humans.
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Finding vampires in graves
When the coffin of an alleged vampire was opened, people sometimes found the cadaver in a relatively undecomposed state, which could have been interpreted as the corpse being the equivalent of a well-fed vampire. Another reason to believe that a body is a vampire that has fed on the living is the strange illusion that the hair, nails, and teeth have grown [5]. It is a well known phenomenon that after death the skin and gums lose fluids and contract, exposing the roots of the hair, nails, and teeth, even teeth that were concealed in the jaw. [6] Folkloric accounts almost universally represent the alleged vampire as having ruddy or dark skin, not the pale skin of vampires in literature and film. In the past, people were often malnourished and therefore thin in life, which could account for the pale skin often referred to. Corpses swell as gases from decomposition accumulate in the torso and blood tries to escape the body. During decomposition blood can often be seen emanating from nose and mouth, which could give the impression that the corpse was a vampire who had been drinking blood. Natural processes of decomposition, absent embalming, tend to darken the skin of a corpse — hence the black, blue, or red complexion of the folkloric vampire. Decomposition also contorts the body into positions other than that which it was laid to rest, adding to the illusion that the corpse has been active after death.
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Vampire bats
Bats have become an integral part of the vampire myth only recently, although many cultures have myths about them. In Europe, bats and owls were long associated with the supernatural, mainly because they were night creatures. Conversely, the gypsies thought them lucky and wore charms made of bat bones. In English heraldic tradition, a bat means "Awareness of the powers of darkness and chaos"[7]. In South America, Camazotz was a bat god of the caves living in the Bathouse of the Underworld.
The three species of actual vampire bats are all endemic to Latin America, and there is no evidence to suggest that they had any Old World relatives within human memory. It is therefore extremely unlikely that the folkloric vampire represents a distorted presentation or memory of the bat. During the 16th century the Spanish conquistadors first came into contact with vampire bats and recognized the similarity between the feeding habits of the bats and those of their mythical vampires. The bats were named after the folkloric vampire rather than vice versa; the Oxford English Dictionary records the folkloric use in English from 1734 and the zoological not until 1774. It wasn't long before vampire bats were adapted into fictional tales, and they have become one of the more important vampire associations in popular culture."
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Quoted from wikipedia. So get over it.