In the '98, American remake of Godzilla, the news said the creature was Gojira "what Japanese sailors called it in myth and song, a mythological sea-dragon that filled their hearts with terror." I dug around online to see if there were any actual myths about a creature called Gojia, and all I found is that the word is a contraction of the Japanese words for gorilla and whale (naming the creature "gorilla whale"), and that the movies were inspired by fishermen seeing nuclear testing and getting very sick and the tainted fish getting sold before anyone knew what was going on. Once or twice I ran across evidence to indicate that Gojia is pure Japanese monster movie, and nothing more, but I was just wondering:
Is there an actual mythological sea-dragon called "Gojira"?
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Once in awhile you hear a myth that can't be found online in great detail (Jack Frost).
No no Godzilla or Gojira is made up.
The director of the original japanese film got the name off one of the stageman. The stageman name was Gojira and was heavily built, so the director like the name soo much he used it for his monster.
The director of the original japanese film got the name off one of the stageman. The stageman name was Gojira and was heavily built, so the director like the name soo much he used it for his monster.
I read it was a contraction of the words for gorilla and wale.
Oh, well, at least we know the movie was true to the myth.
Oh, well, at least we know the movie was true to the myth.
I love Godzilla, sorry but I love em!
QUOTE(Col. Jack O @ Jan 4 2006, 05:58 PM) [snapback]1005487[/snapback]
No no Godzilla or Gojira is made up.
The director of the original japanese film got the name off one of the stageman. The stageman name was Gojira and was heavily built, so the director like the name soo much he used it for his monster.
Actually, that's just one of a couple of different theories. we can't really confirm the guy's existance, so No one knows exactly why it was called Gojira.
Godzilla's roar is made up of some kind of whale sound.
So maybe there is something to Gorilla Whale. Like a whale sized King Kong.
So maybe there is something to Gorilla Whale. Like a whale sized King Kong.
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Godzilla's roar is made up of some kind of whale sound.
So maybe there is something to Gorilla Whale. Like a whale sized King Kong.
Actually, I think the sound was made using a kettle drum and running something across the drumhead ins tead of beating it like drums normally are.
I'd love to have that roar as my car horn. Scare some of the jerks off the road.
I heard that Lepord geckos make a noise simaler to that roar
also Gojira isn't 100% made up i mean the Jpenese did have alot of sea dragon stories and that is where i think he got some of the idea
also Gojira isn't 100% made up i mean the Jpenese did have alot of sea dragon stories and that is where i think he got some of the idea
Ahem...
Gojira's name was made for God, Gorilla, and Whale, and one misspronounced word. He is not a dragon, he is a dinosaur made by nuclear radiation. He was on Bikini's islands while the Atomic Bomb went off, turning a Gojira Saurus into Gojira. The same goes for Radon, Angilas, Baragon, Varan, Gorosaurus, and Titanosaurus...
Gojira was a god, hence the small talisman they gave Steve Martin/Raymond , and a demon, as seen in GMK, who also possessed the souls of the people of WWII.
More gods of Gojira's company, TOHO, are Mosura/Mothra, King Caesar/Ceasar, Varan, Manda,
Gojira's name was made for God, Gorilla, and Whale, and one misspronounced word. He is not a dragon, he is a dinosaur made by nuclear radiation. He was on Bikini's islands while the Atomic Bomb went off, turning a Gojira Saurus into Gojira. The same goes for Radon, Angilas, Baragon, Varan, Gorosaurus, and Titanosaurus...
Gojira was a god, hence the small talisman they gave Steve Martin/Raymond , and a demon, as seen in GMK, who also possessed the souls of the people of WWII.
More gods of Gojira's company, TOHO, are Mosura/Mothra, King Caesar/Ceasar, Varan, Manda,
QUOTE(Captain_Geek @ Jan 8 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]1011911[/snapback]
Actually, I think the sound was made using a kettle drum and running something across the drumhead ins tead of beating it like drums normally are.
I'd love to have that roar as my car horn. Scare some of the jerks off the road.
Actually, its fairly well recorded that Akira Ifukube, the film's composer, created the roar by tugging on the strings of a contrabass with a resin-coated glove.
And there were quite a few dragon myths in ancient Japan, but the creation of Gojira was really due to current events rather than ancient legends. The atomic bombs, the Lucky Dragon incident, general fear of nuclear attacks, and the like.
According to movie legend, te gorilla was in tribute to King Kong. There are no Japanese sea monsters called gojira.
QUOTE(Captain_Geek @ Jan 8 2006, 10:21 PM) [snapback]1011911[/snapback]
Actually, I think the sound was made using a kettle drum and running something across the drumhead ins tead of beating it like drums normally are.
I'd love to have that roar as my car horn. Scare some of the jerks off the road.
It was actually made from roughly dragging a bow across the strings of an out-of-tune bass cello.
And I've heard to different things about the origin of the name.
Gojira....as 'Gorilla/Whale'
AND
Godzilla....because the producer heard 'Gojira', and misundrstood what was siad. In the broken English, the Japanese sounded as if they were saying 'Godzilla'.
The original Gojira sounds a bit like the creature in the TV series 'Surface'.
A bit off topic but the Godzilla movie was amazing i actually cryed at the end when Godzilla was killed.. never new i had a sensitive side until then
Ok. The roar of Gojira 1954 was a leather glove on a chello. The later ones, known as the Showas are done with making it more highspeed.
Gojira's roar was used for the Dragon in the Magic Serpant, and modyfied along with Rodan's cackle to make Varan's roar. Varan's roar would later be modified to Baragon's roar, which is much shorter in length. Then that roar would be modified to Gorosaurus's roar, wich still has a screech of Rodan's roar in it. All those roars will later be modified to make Megalon's roar.
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All you need to know about Gojira, Anguirus, Varan, Rodan, Baragon and other giant Japanese kaiju.
Ghidorah, Oorchi, Gojira, Radon, Varan, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, and many other kaiju have been based off of Gods or demons...
Gojira in 1954 and 1985 was a demonic god. In 1955, a second gojira appeared and fought with the Angilas. After attacks from Rodan, Mogeura, Varan, and Mosura, Gojira returned to do battle with Kong. After the attacks from Manda, Dogara, and Mantango, Gojira appeared once more, battling Mosura. Gojira lost to the larval offspring of Mosura, and was sent into the ocean. He later came back with Radon and Mosura to fight the demon Ghidrah that same year. From then on, Gojira was a good guy. The next year, Gojira, Radon and Ghidorah do batte again, while Frankenstien and Baragon battle it out. The year later, Gojira battles Ebirah, Ookundaru, and Mosura, while two large bigfoots, Sanda and Gaira battle in Tokyo bay. Gojira goes to an island and fights Kamakuras and Kumonga along with his newly adopted child, Minya. The same year, King Kong is found on Mondo Island, fighting the giant therepod, Gorosaurus, the giant sea snake, and a mechanical clone. Gojira is now seen as a good guy, and even helps a kid overcome his coward ness..He helps his son battle Gabara, the bully of Monster Island. The next kaiju attack would be from the giant squid Gezora, the giant crab, Ganime, and the giant turtle Kameba. Gojira would then fight a monster made of pollution, Hedorah, then the space cyborg Gigan, who brought Ghidorah with him. In this battle, Gojira and a new Angilas battle the space invaders. The same year, Gojira helps a giant super hero, Zone Fighter. He fights Gigan once more. Gigan and Megalon attack, and Jet Jaguar and Gojira are there to kick there butts. Gojira then goes up against a mechanical clone. To help him, Angilas and King Ceasar help. Gojira then fights MechaGojira two and a saurian Titanosaurus. And in the Showa Timeline, Ghidorah returns, and Gojira, Manda, Mosura, Kumonga, Gorosaurus, Angilas, Manda, Minya, Rodan, Baragon, and Varan stop the evil kaiju.
In 1985 though, another Gojira appears. This one is more mean than the Showa one. He destroys tokyo, and is dropped into a valcano. He is released from the lava to fight a giant plant, Biolante, and King Ghidorah, who later becomes MechaKing Ghidorah. He then battles Mosura, Battra, MechaGojira, Radon, SpaceGojira, and Destroyah.
In 1999, another Gojira is found. This one more aligator like. He battles Orga.
A similar species is found, who battles Megagiurs.
In 2001, Gojira, the dark god, returns to battle the gaurdian mosnters, Mosura, Baragon, and Ghidorah.
2002 and 2003, Gojira battles Kameba, Mosura, and Kiryu.
2004: This shows how godly Gojira is. He battles Rodan, Angilas, Gigan, Ebirah, Hedorah, Keizer Ghidorah, Zilla[American Gojira], Kumonga, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, Monster X, and unknowingly, Gorosaurus, Kiryu, Gezora, Baragon, Varan, Maguma, and SpaceGojira. After those fights, Gojira and Minya, who adopted again, swim to Monster Island once more.
Gojira's roar was used for the Dragon in the Magic Serpant, and modyfied along with Rodan's cackle to make Varan's roar. Varan's roar would later be modified to Baragon's roar, which is much shorter in length. Then that roar would be modified to Gorosaurus's roar, wich still has a screech of Rodan's roar in it. All those roars will later be modified to make Megalon's roar.
www.TohoKingdom.com
All you need to know about Gojira, Anguirus, Varan, Rodan, Baragon and other giant Japanese kaiju.
Ghidorah, Oorchi, Gojira, Radon, Varan, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, and many other kaiju have been based off of Gods or demons...
Gojira in 1954 and 1985 was a demonic god. In 1955, a second gojira appeared and fought with the Angilas. After attacks from Rodan, Mogeura, Varan, and Mosura, Gojira returned to do battle with Kong. After the attacks from Manda, Dogara, and Mantango, Gojira appeared once more, battling Mosura. Gojira lost to the larval offspring of Mosura, and was sent into the ocean. He later came back with Radon and Mosura to fight the demon Ghidrah that same year. From then on, Gojira was a good guy. The next year, Gojira, Radon and Ghidorah do batte again, while Frankenstien and Baragon battle it out. The year later, Gojira battles Ebirah, Ookundaru, and Mosura, while two large bigfoots, Sanda and Gaira battle in Tokyo bay. Gojira goes to an island and fights Kamakuras and Kumonga along with his newly adopted child, Minya. The same year, King Kong is found on Mondo Island, fighting the giant therepod, Gorosaurus, the giant sea snake, and a mechanical clone. Gojira is now seen as a good guy, and even helps a kid overcome his coward ness..He helps his son battle Gabara, the bully of Monster Island. The next kaiju attack would be from the giant squid Gezora, the giant crab, Ganime, and the giant turtle Kameba. Gojira would then fight a monster made of pollution, Hedorah, then the space cyborg Gigan, who brought Ghidorah with him. In this battle, Gojira and a new Angilas battle the space invaders. The same year, Gojira helps a giant super hero, Zone Fighter. He fights Gigan once more. Gigan and Megalon attack, and Jet Jaguar and Gojira are there to kick there butts. Gojira then goes up against a mechanical clone. To help him, Angilas and King Ceasar help. Gojira then fights MechaGojira two and a saurian Titanosaurus. And in the Showa Timeline, Ghidorah returns, and Gojira, Manda, Mosura, Kumonga, Gorosaurus, Angilas, Manda, Minya, Rodan, Baragon, and Varan stop the evil kaiju.
In 1985 though, another Gojira appears. This one is more mean than the Showa one. He destroys tokyo, and is dropped into a valcano. He is released from the lava to fight a giant plant, Biolante, and King Ghidorah, who later becomes MechaKing Ghidorah. He then battles Mosura, Battra, MechaGojira, Radon, SpaceGojira, and Destroyah.
In 1999, another Gojira is found. This one more aligator like. He battles Orga.
A similar species is found, who battles Megagiurs.
In 2001, Gojira, the dark god, returns to battle the gaurdian mosnters, Mosura, Baragon, and Ghidorah.
2002 and 2003, Gojira battles Kameba, Mosura, and Kiryu.
2004: This shows how godly Gojira is. He battles Rodan, Angilas, Gigan, Ebirah, Hedorah, Keizer Ghidorah, Zilla[American Gojira], Kumonga, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, Monster X, and unknowingly, Gorosaurus, Kiryu, Gezora, Baragon, Varan, Maguma, and SpaceGojira. After those fights, Gojira and Minya, who adopted again, swim to Monster Island once more.
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Ok. The roar of Gojira 1954 was a leather glove on a chello. The later ones, known as the Showas are done with making it more highspeed.
Gojira's roar was used for the Dragon in the Magic Serpant, and modyfied along with Rodan's cackle to make Varan's roar. Varan's roar would later be modified to Baragon's roar, which is much shorter in length. Then that roar would be modified to Gorosaurus's roar, wich still has a screech of Rodan's roar in it. All those roars will later be modified to make Megalon's roar.
www.TohoKingdom.com
All you need to know about Gojira, Anguirus, Varan, Rodan, Baragon and other giant Japanese kaiju.
Ghidorah, Oorchi, Gojira, Radon, Varan, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, and many other kaiju have been based off of Gods or demons...
Gojira in 1954 and 1985 was a demonic god. In 1955, a second gojira appeared and fought with the Angilas. After attacks from Rodan, Mogeura, Varan, and Mosura, Gojira returned to do battle with Kong. After the attacks from Manda, Dogara, and Mantango, Gojira appeared once more, battling Mosura. Gojira lost to the larval offspring of Mosura, and was sent into the ocean. He later came back with Radon and Mosura to fight the demon Ghidrah that same year. From then on, Gojira was a good guy. The next year, Gojira, Radon and Ghidorah do batte again, while Frankenstien and Baragon battle it out. The year later, Gojira battles Ebirah, Ookundaru, and Mosura, while two large bigfoots, Sanda and Gaira battle in Tokyo bay. Gojira goes to an island and fights Kamakuras and Kumonga along with his newly adopted child, Minya. The same year, King Kong is found on Mondo Island, fighting the giant therepod, Gorosaurus, the giant sea snake, and a mechanical clone. Gojira is now seen as a good guy, and even helps a kid overcome his coward ness..He helps his son battle Gabara, the bully of Monster Island. The next kaiju attack would be from the giant squid Gezora, the giant crab, Ganime, and the giant turtle Kameba. Gojira would then fight a monster made of pollution, Hedorah, then the space cyborg Gigan, who brought Ghidorah with him. In this battle, Gojira and a new Angilas battle the space invaders. The same year, Gojira helps a giant super hero, Zone Fighter. He fights Gigan once more. Gigan and Megalon attack, and Jet Jaguar and Gojira are there to kick there butts. Gojira then goes up against a mechanical clone. To help him, Angilas and King Ceasar help. Gojira then fights MechaGojira two and a saurian Titanosaurus. And in the Showa Timeline, Ghidorah returns, and Gojira, Manda, Mosura, Kumonga, Gorosaurus, Angilas, Manda, Minya, Rodan, Baragon, and Varan stop the evil kaiju.
In 1985 though, another Gojira appears. This one is more mean than the Showa one. He destroys tokyo, and is dropped into a valcano. He is released from the lava to fight a giant plant, Biolante, and King Ghidorah, who later becomes MechaKing Ghidorah. He then battles Mosura, Battra, MechaGojira, Radon, SpaceGojira, and Destroyah.
In 1999, another Gojira is found. This one more aligator like. He battles Orga.
A similar species is found, who battles Megagiurs.
In 2001, Gojira, the dark god, returns to battle the gaurdian mosnters, Mosura, Baragon, and Ghidorah.
2002 and 2003, Gojira battles Kameba, Mosura, and Kiryu.
2004: This shows how godly Gojira is. He battles Rodan, Angilas, Gigan, Ebirah, Hedorah, Keizer Ghidorah, Zilla[American Gojira], Kumonga, Caesar, Manda, Mosura, Monster X, and unknowingly, Gorosaurus, Kiryu, Gezora, Baragon, Varan, Maguma, and SpaceGojira. After those fights, Gojira and Minya, who adopted again, swim to Monster Island once more.
You do realize that there are separate timelines, right?
SHOWA: all films from 1954 to 1989. The two films in the 80s, while in Japan's Showa era, are part of the second, Heisei timeline.
HEISEI: 1989(approximate) to current day. All films from 1884 to 1995 are part of the Heisei timeline.
Now, the most recent films are all stand-alone, not part of any timeline but their own. The only exception to this is GodzillaXMechagodzilla and GMMG: Tokyo SOS, which are considered to be a saga on their own.
The only thing the timelines share is that they all start at the original film, back in '54. The most recent, Godzilla Final Wars, doesn't even have the first film.
Trying to string them all together isn't possible.
^ You do realise I know this?
And I must correct you.
Showa= 1939-1980
Heishie= 1981-1998.
Millenium= 1999-2006.
Gojira or commonly known as Godzilla king of the Monsters, was a seperate movie.
Gojira Returns, or Godzilla raids again is a direct sequel to that, and the true start of the Toho Showa timeline.
Other kaiju of this time are Anguirus, Meganuron, Rodan, Mogeura, Varan, Oorchie, Dogarah, Gorosaurus, Frankenstien, King Kong, Oodako, Ookundaru, Gabara, Minya, Ghidorah, Mosura, MechaniKong, Manda, Maguma, Mantango, Gigan, Megalon, King Caesar, Titanosaurus, Oodabie, Ebirah, Hedorah, Kamakuras, Kumonga, Jet Jaguar, and more.
Heishie had a direct sequel to Gojira, called Godzilla 1985, or Gojira returns.
Mellienium had many, GMK, GFW, G2000, GxM, GagainstMG, GMMG TokyoSOS.
the last two where part of a supposively five part series...
And I must correct you.
Showa= 1939-1980
Heishie= 1981-1998.
Millenium= 1999-2006.
Gojira or commonly known as Godzilla king of the Monsters, was a seperate movie.
Gojira Returns, or Godzilla raids again is a direct sequel to that, and the true start of the Toho Showa timeline.
Other kaiju of this time are Anguirus, Meganuron, Rodan, Mogeura, Varan, Oorchie, Dogarah, Gorosaurus, Frankenstien, King Kong, Oodako, Ookundaru, Gabara, Minya, Ghidorah, Mosura, MechaniKong, Manda, Maguma, Mantango, Gigan, Megalon, King Caesar, Titanosaurus, Oodabie, Ebirah, Hedorah, Kamakuras, Kumonga, Jet Jaguar, and more.
Heishie had a direct sequel to Gojira, called Godzilla 1985, or Gojira returns.
Mellienium had many, GMK, GFW, G2000, GxM, GagainstMG, GMMG TokyoSOS.
the last two where part of a supposively five part series...
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