ok so on coast 2 coast tonight.. they did a lot of talk about how nostradamus predicted as youve all heard the WTC Tragedy... but what many of the experts are saying was between know and 2012 another tragedy is going to happen =( ... i hope there wrong on that one..

also, the face on mars.. they talked about how people were saying NASA put those photos their.. the man on noory who worked for NASA said the face on mars is real.. and the mathmatics are correct.. math never lies.. here what you have to say about that...

also, im a little unclear about this... they said nasa lanched a video or got a video and they covered it up. what it was were these so called "ice crystals" they said that they were but the images of these bright lights.. were 2000 miles away.. no video camera can record that.. and there are videos on it.. another government cover up.. what were the names of these two videos.. something 80 i remeber.. a couple letters and the number 80.. what does everyone think of this!?

lastly... i cant believe this 2012 supposedly is the end of the world.. but they have been predicting the end of the world for centuries.. but what is rediciiously is there is so much media and news about this 2012 its crazy!!!! the mayan calender is around 95+ percent correct on their theories and predictions..

P.S i cant wait to fight off all you SKEPTICS on this sight... because you no it all.. but these are FACTS, MATHMATICAL PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SOLVEN.. hard proof is here... so you can take the skeptism and sit on it.. i want to no what the believiers think... if your a real skepetic push ALT+4... it will take you to our skeptic sight =) ...

I'm not a skeptic. I know the world will end. I know aliens are more are there somewhere. But unless we blow ourselves up or a big space rock smacks into us, nothing is going to happen any time soon.

As for good ol' Nostradamus...nah, his stuff is just to vauge to be diffinitive on anything. Say what you want but we apply this stuff to events happening in our life times or what has already happened. I'm sure two-hundred years ago people could have used his predictions for anything.

The face on mars. I love that picture, and would love if something real was clear on it. What about the math? That part of your post was kinda well hard to understand.

OK SERIOUSLY!

WHAT ABOUT THE MATH?????????

You posted this with no numbers or facts. What about the math? Give some figures and add more to this so I can understand what your trying to get across, sai.

Oh yeah, I don't know even a small fraction of it all. I just want to know where you get these hard mathmatical facts on any of this. Please help, I'm too lazy to look this stuff up at four in da mourning.

the fact that mars was once like our planet does sort of give a nod to the fact that life would have no doubt existed, but the thing is how long did exist in an earth like state before it got pumeled with asteroids for that life to evolve?, if somewhere in history their were humans on mars, then well they were gonna start buildin stuff after a while. IF life evolved to that point of course.

there is a lot off photos with massive pyramid structure too on mars, and other peculiar unnatural shapes, but anythign can be done with a bit of photo shop skill. Best thign to do is buy an extremely powerfuly telescope and look for yourself.

The massive Martian pyramids look just like the massive pyramids on Earth. Except we call them mountains.......

Odd how people insist a martian hill must be man made but are quite happy to accept that Everest formed naturally......

Lucid, get the name of the radio station, and do a Google for the transcripts. That should have all the facts and figures that escaped your memeory.....unless of course, the MIB degaussed their tape records before they leaked to the public.

I can't find a transcript, but here's some links.


Richard Hoagland
http://www.enterprisemission.com/

http://www.hogueprophecy.com/

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

yeah but the martian pyramids are a bit more geometricaly shaped than everest.

yes I am afraid the truth is that we are all doomed. The problem is you see, is that the earth is a living entity like everything else in the universe....if it exists it has purpose therefore it lives - (ancient sanskrit legend)
And the earth has simply recognised that mankind is behaving exactly like a virus and of course all viruses eventually destroy the host unless the host destroys the virus first. What we are seeing is the earth responding thru its immune system. Its rejecting us. Dont forget that the earth's primary purpose is to maintain ideal living conditions for the life upon its surface. temperature ,rainfall etc are carefully regulated to maintain those life forms. But if anyn of those lifeforms upset the balance then it simply has to go....

The key combination you're looking for is Alt + F4. Alt + 4 does nothing.

So, was the $25 worth it? Goooood stuff?

sorry guys, really really didn't wan tooooo, but hey, its just my opinion and we get the feeling we is about tooooo upset, sorry, reaally sorry,

anyways, have a go, see what you thinks

You see this cycle the earth is bound by is one of a 12000 year motion. Every 12000 years something happens that is predetermined. The planet we occupy is not so much independent by its means. What I mean is, it is constantly in motion, moving along a predetermined course and along the way its picking up more and more mass. Every day ’space dust’ is entering our atmosphere adding to our dimension. Now we are aware of recycling, nature is the perfect example of a recycling guru. Its how nature works. If we take a good look at how she does it, it goes along the lines of this.

She creates life, carbon based life. All creation is built with the building blocks of carbon. Once the life ends, it is over a period of time reduced to a black gunk we know as fossil fuel. This is not just something for us to exploit but it is the fuel that drives this planet. It is all built into the cycle.
We look at the ocean floor and we see that it is in continual motion. Everything eventually returns to the core. The movement of what we call the tectonic plates directs all the potential energy back towards the core for it is recycled and fuels the core that produces the energy we understand as life.

The core is a molten mass that produces all that we know as the forces that dictate life. At some point this furnace is to be fuelled. Built within the grand design of this planet is the space and time for this to happen. nature likes to work in balance, between her and the sun she creates and recieves the energy to give life. you mothers know what its like to fuel life on all levels. Every 12000 years it finds itself in a position that allows all this to happen.
What is it that then comes into play?

This, the thing that protects us from the threat of what lies out there in space is what we now understand as being our magnetic field. What happens is when the planet reaches a certain position within this solar system and when enough time has given rise to an abundance of the carbon element it coincides with the depletion of energy that the core produces. Its all in the timing. Right place right time. When the energy that the core produces starts to off set from that of the norm, things start to go a little off key. Weather takes a turn for the worse, ground starts to distort. Its like a pregnant women before she gives birth. Everything goes off the scale.

Now the most significant thing is the position. The position is vital to the whole thing, its when the planet is in a motion that allows it to cycle closer to the sun. this allows the sun to heat up the planet and the usual energy that the core provides then allows the core to over heat. This action reduces the magnetic energy that we understand to be our defence mechanism. As this field is reduced the potential for the unthinkable really becomes apparent.

You see it is foretold because it has happened so many times. The earth is of the feminine, she produces life. The planet goes through some tremendous growth stages and they can be defined. Now get this, if you suck out this potential energy, fossil fuel, she is going to have to replace it. See where I’m going. You see the past civilisation was more dependant on natural sources of energy and the last event was nothing like what we are about to experience. It really is all about energy and how it is distributed. Nature is dictated to and we are nothing more than carbon. It hurts doesn’t it.

When you look at evolution you see that the biggest jumps in the evolving state is when things happen that promote change. A species evolves not because it wants to but because it has to. We see in the larger picture that nature has hit what I call ‘bottle necks’? I mean cataclysmic events pushed things out of existence and the rest had to evolve. Where am I going with this? After looking at the past I then took stock of the ‘here and now’. After understanding what’s on our horizon I had to go and have a peek at the potential? What can I say, we evolve. What into? What would you like? Its all good. It is going to address issues of knowledge and how it is shared but it has the potential to take us to the next level and that can only be a good thing.

Nature is a ‘capitalist by design’. We are just apart of that design and when we learn to work with it and not against it we will move into a whole new existence. So how do you like me now?

I’ve touched only the tip of the proverbial iceberg here, there is so much more that I have witnessed and feel compelled to share with you guys but I can here the big question looming? How long have we got?

Its nothing personal, I have only just come to terms with it all myself. And if I am right then I feel that my timing is impeccable and my destiny is on course. If time is the big issue here then you must read on. The next page is going to be based on my understanding of the revelations that have been around for a couple of thousand years so hold on to your knickers.

again sorry,
come on then, lets have it.......!......? be nice, and be good, god is reading this, he's everywhere, honest

I agree wholeheartedly.

Gods a pervert.

I agree with JC2...and have for quite a number of years. Mainly through readign about prehistory, extinction and the like. If you ask me, we are still lucky to be here at all. Lets at least try to fix things a little and perhaps we can change things, even if it is not a complete extinction of the human species.

It's too late, imo.

Perhaps. Let anyone who comes to this site know that then. The human race is doomed, and it is our own stupid fault...I knew there was a reason I wasn't much of a people person, especially with all the housing developments that everyone just HAS to have built EVERYWHERE....that really gets me.

you mean, you've seen me sing this song befoe

or

you've reach this notion, sorry, this bueatiful concept your self ? ?

Reached it myself. Sorry to disappoint if you don't believe this. I am quite new to these boards, so I doubt I would have ever heard you 'sing this song' before. if that is what you meant by that.

*sips on coke*

well hey, honesty is the thing that counts and it always adds to know that there are more who do what we are designed to do and dont just give up and throw it away......

trust me, i am crap at all this and knowing me and my rep it wont be long before im gone, again.....

i am what i am, i am whats in me, i just have the patience to listen to the preacher in me, think thats the best way to say it AND hey aint that what it is that speaks to us all, well maybe not all ????

and in my holy'r than thou moment i am know wearing more than i drank, towel please.......

Hey, thanks for being really clear about this and not just blurting things out sans any kind of coherence. It really helps to support your argument.

You tell skeptics to eat it, yet you do nothing but ramble on and on like a buffoon in something that doesn't even look like English. Instead of saying things about it all being in the hard evidence and the "math" (whatever that means), why don't you give us some concrete examples?

time to bow out, me and my illiterate self bid thee all a good farewell

peace and love to all men as it seems the women are already blessed..

O K , Only Kidding....

upside down and back to front is this world, find your balance and you too may be able to see it from the perpective it would like you to see her from... speak her language and she'll tell you a story, honest....

ciao 4 now, JC2 taking a well earned rest.......

Cheers.

what r we trying to figure out here? how the world is going to go down. or how the human race will be no more?

For all you closed-minded folks in here, give these a wirl:

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/

http://www.metaresearch.org/

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicmarsanoms.htm

http://www.geocities.com/natethegreat2u_2000/index.html

The first site I mentioned is one of my favorites, the dude goes into great detail with each report.


Googled and Yahooed for you

SEARCH WORDS: mars anomalies


GOOGLE: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=SUN...omalies&spell=1

YAHOO: http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr...ars%20anomalies

The world will end when God tells it to end...if the world disagrees then God and the world will have a death fight, and the aliens will take us to their planet to protect us when all they want is sexual pleasures....
sorry...all hopped up on flu meds

I think the face on mars could be real, but, it does not mean there was once a civilization like ours in mars, and a lot of people think it is a " human " face, maybe it's something else, maybe the pyramids, egypcian and martian were built by other force, it could be even a sketch of a civilization that once existed or exist in other place, like the sketches that human did millions of years ago.

And the nostradamus thing, i don't belive in that, and i don't belive either something is going to happen at 2012, the ppl never understand the predictions until the happen, or do anyone knew that the flying flaming birds were the planes, and the towers the WTC?

Sorry for my english, and Farewell.

The face on Mars was revealed by later, higher-resolution pictures to just be an ordinary plateau or butte.

You English is quite good, actually.

if nostradamus predicted the future than no matter what we do won't change anything as it been fortold. Then i say live your life now and deal with it later

The face on mars is just a plateau, a mixure of mountains and craters giving what seems to be a face. Once again, as humans, we can see faces in just about anything, it's called pareidolia. Just like how someone see's Jesus face on a tree, or on a wall after it's been washed. I do believe within the next little while something bad will happen to mankind. 2012 could be a very changing year, and since the Mayans predicted something would happen, it would have to be an asteroid, or a star of somekind, since their calculations were obviously derived from space.

I don't doubt the Mayans ability to read the stars, and their could very well be an asteroid that could hit us in the near future. Scientists say around 2030 is when that asteroid is going to be coming close to earth I believe ?. Personally, they could be pitching that date, looking for help from the general public, and not to cause mass hysteria, the actual time it arrives could very well be in 2012. What if they did lie to us ?, who cares, if they don't do anything to stop it everyones going to be dead anyway, why cause such hysteria ? , and cause social governmental rioting to the mix ?.

Tell me man, how do you KNOW the face on Mars is just a "plateau, a mixure of mountains and craters?"

I don't know if you do or not bud, but I do not trust everything 100% that is given to me. Especialy information given from a government and governmental organizations who have the ability and know-how to minpulate the public by falsley giving out disinformation whenever they please.

Do I know the face on Mars is indeed an actual "face" or a "plateau, a mixure of mountains and craters?" NO, I don't, nor do I know if all my taxes and donation money are received by the proper organization, or picked up by someone else.

Like I have heard before,
"There are two different types of people in this world, the astronomers, and the astronauts."
Now ask yourself, "which one am I."

Oh, and at least try one informative site man, specificaly this one:
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/

I highly recomend it!

Nostradamus didnt not predict 9/11 that was a hoax, it was even on the history channel. By the way I was watching the bible code series recently and according to a code a comet will strike the earth in 2012. Pretty strange huh?

so you believe everything you are told?

what if there is a conspiracy to not allow people to find out that Nostrodamus was a true prophet. im not saying i believe that myself. but im just saying.

"bible codes" should be called "common in books malarky" because thats what it is. a load of crap that people can "read" in many books.

Solofront,

I know, because I read an indepth view called " The Mars Mystery " which is written by Graham Hancock. Although in the book, he is fighting that the face on mars, as well as Cydonia are all built structures from the hands of some civilization. Now Graham, is a little off his rocker, and after READING his book that trys to convince you it's a built structure, I leaned against his points, question his math formulas and his far streched ideas. Thinking that some civilization went to great lengths to build all of that, or too think a meteor shower could of caused the same effect, it sounds more probable that a meteor did it.

I looked at the website you proposed, with all of it's pictures and theories. It's great that the people at this site, can claim all these things about these pictures. I could look at the same pictures, and give you the same bogus remarks, and many people would eat it up. Im not gonna look at a fuzzy bad resolution picture, and make claims whether or not it's a man made structure, or the deposit of an old existing stream. Everyone is entitled to their own opinoins. However, like they say, the easiest explanation, is most often the right one, and in that case, Im basing it on a meteored cratered planet, nothing more.

If you belive that the world is going to end in 2012 u r a niny(NI-NY)

The "prediction" of Nostradamus' was later prove to be false. It was part of a critique about Nostradamus.



NASA has ALWAYS said that the face and the pyramid were nothing but natural hills with shadows showing more. Here are pictures of the "face" proving exactly that.

Like already mentioned by others, he did not predict 9/11. What these people did was take bits and pieces of different predictions and put them together themselves to predict 9/11. So this claim is false



The face on Mars is real, it's made of real rocks. If you could provide a name of this NASA employee that would be great. I would like to look into his credibility

Here is a very informative site regarding "The Face"

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm

Just think of it this way. If you see a face in a cloud, does that mean someone created it? Or does it just LOOK like a face?


Yes you are a little unclear... First NASA never hid these videos, they are from STS-80 and STS-48. You say they are 2000 miles away? How do you know this? Then you say no camera can film this far? Can you prove this? How can the government cover up something that you claim is impossible?

I honestly am not qualified to tell anyone what the video is showing. here is a debate on it, you may add to it if you wish...

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=sts-48



I somewhat agree here, seems there are predictions for almost every year that it will be the last. The end of the world will either be a nuclear disaster or in billions of years when the Sun eats us.


Why do you want to fight so bad? Wouldn't you rather read, investigate, debate, and maybe even learn something?

None of the above things mentioned are facts, they are peoples opinions. You can not simply look at a picture and be 100% sure what it is you are looking at. You need physical evidence and chemical analysis to be 100% sure. Pictures are not "hard proof"

So you want to claim all this as complete truth and expect no one to question you? That's the main problem I have with "believers" they do not take all sides into account and refuse to investigate the claims made.