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wolfspirit
Hello Friends:

Do you guys ever heard about a Native American
Nation by the name of the Anasazi. They had the
heavenly aspect fully intergrated in their life and
ceremonies. From birth they were schooled in the influential
effects each planet had on their physiological systems their emotions
and the land they now populated.
This Native American Nation in the American Southwest was established
and settled for a specified span of time,it been said they went back to
another planet.
What you guys know or think about all this? alien.gif
*EnIgMa*
I know they were on The X-files...??
What do you know?
Daniella2310
QUOTE(wolfspirit @ Jan 5 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1007153[/snapback]

Hello Friends:

Do you guys ever heard about a Native American
Nation by the name of the Anasazi. They had the
heavenly aspect fully intergrated in their life and
ceremonies.

Sounds like any other native-american tribe/ culture :-p (an dby this I'm including the aztecs, mayas and incas)
fantazum
QUOTE(wolfspirit @ Jan 5 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]1007153[/snapback]

Hello Friends:

Do you guys ever heard about a Native American
Nation by the name of the Anasazi. They had the
heavenly aspect fully intergrated in their life and
ceremonies. From birth they were schooled in the influential
effects each planet had on their physiological systems their emotions
and the land they now populated.
This Native American Nation in the American Southwest was established
and settled for a specified span of time,it been said they went back to
another planet.
What you guys know or think about all this? alien.gif


there is a legend that the Anasazi claimed descent from the ancient antlanteans, however it is known that they shared an ancestry with south american cultures like the Aztec and perhaps Inca and maya. Why they chose to go north is a mystery....maybe to escape the flood. The Hopi are the Anasazi's descendents.

The Anasazi were located in the Four Corners region ( Northern New Mexico west of the Pecos River, southwestern Colorado, most of southern Utah, and northern Arizona south to the Little Colorado River). The Anasazi existed around two thousand years ago and are thought to be the ancestors of modern Indian tribes like the Hopi, the Zuni and the Pueblo. The earliest Anasazi probably settled in the plateau area because water was more available. They settled into three distinct population centers which were Chaco Canyon, Mesa Verde, and Kayenta and eventually spread out across the entire plateau. The Anasazi tradition can be divided into two parts: the Basket Makers and the Pueblo.

Paleo-Indian and Archaic people hunted and foraged in the canyon. Semi-permanent hunter-gatherers began cultivating squash and corn in the first millennium. Finally in AD 490, the first permanent villages were established due to an increase in annual rainfall. Around AD 1050, the communities of Chaco Canyon were at the peak of their activity. During this time there was trade of foods and other goods. The Anasazi had a diet of garden corn, squash, beans, gathered foods and hunted game. Because so much time and effort was spent feeding themselves, they focused very little on permanent homemaking.

They originally opted to spend only the coldest months under shelter. As time progressed, however, more and more houses were built. What they assembled for living quarters was a circular frame from ten to twenty-five feet in diameter. Surface sand was scooped away in a bowl-like structure with a place for a fire in the middle. The walls were logs stacked on each other and the entire structure narrowed at the top. Instead of a complete roof, they left a hole at the top to let out the smoke which would rise from the fire. The walls were then covered with mud to seal up the cracks. These structures are known as kivas. The Anasazi also used caves. Occasionally these caves would be used for living space, but their main purpose was for the storage of dried food.

Around 700 A.D., the Anasazi began a period of transition and advancement that changed them from the Basket Maker Anasazi to the Pueblo Anasazi. Pueblo was the name of the new building technique they were using. Around 1000 AD, masonry houses were being built with stones stacked on top of each other and mud being used for mortar. They began to build impressive dwellings, becoming expert stone masons. They increased the frequency and design of pottery making and discovered the use of the bow and arrow. By 1200 AD, village locations were being picked in spots that were safer and harder to attack indicating that war and violence were increasing. After that, for reasons largely unexplained, the Anasazi began leaving their homes and by 1300A.D, the Anasazi had disappeared.

Daily Life: What is known of the culture of the Anasazi can only be speculated through archeological finds, comparative ethnographic information and skeletal remains. It is most likely that they spent most of their time growing corn, their staple food. Researchers also believe that the women spent many hours each day grinding enough corn for the daily meals. This is reflected in the high incidence of severe arthritis found in female skeletons that would be caused by the continuous kneeling and rocking needed to grind the corn on a metate.

Meat and wood were fairly sparse so, for the men a lot of time was probably spent on hunting, and on wood gathering for the women and children. Religion was also very important and was closely interwoven with all other activities. Archeologists have also recovered toys, and "gaming pieces" which, though difficult to interpret, shows that the Anasazi had leisure time for entertainment. They had many games (gambling included), and sporting events (like running). Much of these were closely tied to religious events because of the gathering of people from several villages.

Best Known Features: One of the attractions of the Southwest to early explorers, archaeologists and relic collectors was the abundance, quality and variety of Anasazi pottery. Most Anasazi pots were made with round rather than flat bottoms. They did not have tables, so a round-bottomed cooking pot could be easily supported on a few rocks while heating up the stew. The pots were made from sandstone and shale clay, and covered in beautiful black or red geometric designs. The colors are carefully painted on with "brushes" made from the yucca plant. Though the ceremonial use of the pottery by the Anasazi remains unknown, one of their descendents, the Pueblo, who still make pottery today, believe that the spirit of Mother Earth that resides in the clay influences the design. Because of this belief, the pottery is made almost exclusively by women, though there are a few male "potters". This was probably the same with the Anasazi.

With the coming of Europeans, Anasazi pottery went into a decline. It was not just the beginning of metal pots and pans that gradually replaced pottery, but the European demands for labor and other disruptions that left less time for careful craft production. However, pueblo women continued to make pottery, and with the coming of the railroad and tourists, they found a market. In the last 60 years, quality has again improved, prices have soared, and the Anasazi pottery tradition appears to be far from dead.
To read the rest: http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/north...ca/anasazi.html

the Hopi:They believed in maps that have been drawn. That they existed at the center of the earth or Turtle Island. That beyond them was the sky and that beyond the sky were dimensional portals or sky holes as they called them . Beyond the dimensional portals was an area that they call the Ocean of Pitch, were the beauty of the night sky and the galaxies spun out towards them. Beyond that were the boundaries of the universe. And that set along the rim at the boundaries of the universe were 4 different exterrestrial groups.

They believed in Achivas the sacred ceremonial places to honor the earth. These are the places that Shaman would go into the earth to do their most sacred work. The reason that Achivas are built into the earth for sacred work is beacuse according to legend, at the destruction at each of the ages of mankind the people that were pure of heart went down into the buxom of the earth and there remained protected. According to them they dwelt in the center of the earth with a group of beings that they call the Ant People.

Drawings of the Ant People are remarkable similar to the Grey aliens of today - large heads - little stocky bodies - long spindly fingers - in some cases 4, 5, or 6 digits.

Some of these drawings have the indication of telepathic thought waves coming from the beings' head themselves.

The Native Americans believed that the home of the Kachinas was on top of a mountain where there were great cloud formations. Today we know that UFO's often hide in what we call Lenticular Clouds, which are cloud formations that seem to be produced to conceal the ships from the visible eye spectrum. Real lenticular clouds move with the rest of the clouds. Whereas the UFO clouds do not - often sitting 5 hours in one place.

The Hopis called the Pleiadians the Chuhukon, meaning those who cling together. They considered themselves direct descendents of the Pleiadians. The Navajos named the Pleiades the Sparkling Suns or the Delyahey, the home of the Black God. The Iroquois pray to them for happiness. The Cree came to have come to earth from the stars in spirit form first and then became flesh and blood.

Each year a medicine man performs the green corn dance where he takes 7 ears of corn from 7 fields of the 7 clans to insure a healthy harvest.

Early Dakota stories speak of the Tiyami home of the ancestors as being the Pleiades. Astronomy tells us that the Pleiades rise with the sun in May and that when you die your spirit returns south to the seven sisters.

They believe that Mythic Mountain is actually the home of the Kachinas. This mountain top is a sacred one. Being the home of the kachina spirits it is the place where all of the large mythic beings they honor in their rituals land. "We come as clouds to bless the Hopi people" is a quote passed from generation to generation.

There are some remarkable drawings that appear to be luminous discs of light in the petroglyphs all along the south west. Photographs of Billy Meier's Pleiadian space and beam ships look just like these rock petroglyphs from long ago.




The Hopi Indian UFOs
Hopi Indian legends tell of a sure certainty in the future that the tribe's faithful will be lifted to other planets on the Day of Purification. And they watch and wait for the UFO's that will take them there.

The legend is borne of an ancient rock carving near Mishongnovi, AZ, depicting a dome-shaped saucer object and maiden that has become a core part of the tribe's religious beliefs. Elders in the Hopi community have said they perceive UFOs as having a direct connection with the old petroglyph drawing and the foretelling of visitors from space who arrive for the Day of Purification.

On that day, "all wicked people and wrong-doers will be punished or destroyed," said the Prescott Daily Courier in 1995. The newspaper reported on a visit to Prescott by Hope Chief Dan Katchongva, who with two others from the tribe came to investigate "the rash of UFOs in the summer of 1970.

The chief told the newspaper that "we believe other planets are inhabited and that our prayers are heard there. The arrow on which the dome-shaped object rests stands for travel through space. The Hopi maiden on the dome-shaped drawing represents purity. Those Hopi who survive Purification Day will travel to other planets. We, the faithful Hopi have seen the ships and know they are true."

Chief Katchongva also told of Hopi prophecies that say his people will be divided three times before the True White Brother arrives to take the faithful away. He said the first division occurred in 1906, when Chief Yukiuma were driven from the old town of Oraibi to Hoteville. The second division, said the chief, happened in 1969, when contact was made with a flying saucer that whispered a message to the tribe.

The third division is said to be the precursor of the Purification day, and until it arrives, the chief told the newspaper, "many Hopi men wear their bang haircut that represents a window from which they continue to look for the True White Brother who will arrive with matching pieces of the stone petroglyph.

But Chief Dan Katchongva won't see the day comeŠor perhaps he will. He's been missing since 1972, lost to the tribe while walking to a valley where a UFO had just been seen.

to read the rest: http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi1.html
SoLLiZ
the anasazi were cannibals as well
wolfspirit
Hello soliz:

This people were NOT canibals. I sow a tv show thatsaid
just that.For what I now (I'm by nomeans any expert on this)
and for the research done by me I don't belive so. blink.gif
wolfspirit
Hello Friends:

The Anasazi had a very intigrated system and were very close
to the stellar aspect of their life.

For example:

Neptune

Influential Manectic season:
February

Influence on Human Personality:
Counseling the young, their egos and their blossoming
personalities.

Influence on Human Physiology:
Foot ailments incresedduring this time such as athlete's foot, bunions and
foot accidents. wink2.gif

SoLLiZ
just passing on what i heard. there have been human bones found in anasazi dwellings that have scrappings that match up to human teeth.
wolfspirit
Hello Friends:

Again I have seen that same tv show I , my opinion I don't
think is true all I have in my hands from a actor by the
Name of Mary Summer Rain, said they were a pacefull race. blink.gif
Hiddnfox
My father in-law has had the oportunity to be one of the very few to be allowed on hopi land. he eve nsmoked a peace pipe!

there is a strong belief both in the hopi community and the mormon community here in Utah that the hopi's were descendants of the lost tribes of israel.

but hey! who knows. I will ask him about cannibals. I do remember him coming back with all his fingers though.....
battleangel
I'm by no means an expert on Anasazi but I have learned a good deal about them. Even know a few. original.gif

First of all, the descendents of these people don't like them being called "anasazi". It's a Navajo word and the Navajo and the various Pueblo tribes have long been enemies. It's like people using a nickname that your worst enemy calls you. "Ancestral puebloan" is the preferred name. I've heard two definitions for the word, "anasazi" and one is "ancient enemy" and the other, "ancient ones". I've heard ancient enemy more so you can probably understand why the pueblos protest, lol

The Hopi do have a flood myth where the previous world was destroyed by flood. Most of the space/Atlantis type stories seem to originate from Frank Waters' works and those aren't very good at all. Try reading this as an intro from the Hopi nation's own website:

[url=http://www.hopi.nsn.us/emergence.asp]
Hopi Emergence[/url]

You might note the lack of UFO's in the story. If you were contact the Hopi office and ask them directly about it, you'd probably get a rather rude reception.

Human bones that appeared to have been butchered were found in a few burned out kivas. One of these kivas also contained a human coprolite that contained human DNA (meaning that odds are, somebody ate somebody and defiled the kiva). Imo, there is no way to tell whether or not this means that the ancestral puebloan were cannibals. I seriously doubt it just based on what I know of the culture. Somebody probably did and to defecate in a kiva is a massive insult. That's like taking a crap in a church. Whoever did it was probably an enemy and definitely not Navajo. The Navajo won't even touch the articles of the dead for fear of spirits.

I have several pictures of cliffdwellings, some of museum displays showing their living styles for various periods as well as several photos (and huge access to more) pictures of various potsherds dating from the first basketmaker potteries to polychrome. If anybody is interested in any of those things, just let me know and I'll put them up. Just be mindful that there is alot of garbage out there (both written and on the net) that isn't really true.
Piney
QUOTE(Hiddnfox @ Jan 12 2006, 12:16 PM) [snapback]1017919[/snapback]

My father in-law has had the oportunity to be one of the very few to be allowed on hopi land. he eve nsmoked a peace pipe!

there is a strong belief both in the hopi community and the mormon community here in Utah that the hopi's were descendants of the lost tribes of israel.

but hey! who knows. I will ask him about cannibals. I do remember him coming back with all his fingers though.....


The Anasasi were probably Uto-Aztecan related to the Hopi, Shoshone, Comanche and Aztec. As for the Mormon garbage about "lost tribe's of Isreal" it is "road apples"and the Mormons wonder why NdNs hate em. Also the Anasasi caused their own famine and drought by deforesting the area. Later when the Dine' (Apache and Navajo) came down from the North about 1400 they raided the hell out of them and finished them off.

Lapi'che
battleangel
QUOTE(Piney @ Jan 15 2006, 12:05 AM) [snapback]1021645[/snapback]

The Anasasi were probably Uto-Aztecan related to the Hopi, Shoshone, Comanche and Aztec. As for the Mormon garbage about "lost tribe's of Isreal" it is "road apples"and the Mormons wonder why NdNs hate em. Also the Anasasi caused their own famine and drought by deforesting the area. Later when the Dine' (Apache and Navajo) came down from the North about 1400 they raided the hell out of them and finished them off.

Lapi'che


The Mormons also believe(d) that the Dine were part of the lost tribe thing as well. We still get missionaries coming door to door out here. I'm not very nice to them. That entire thing is absolute garbage. Iirc, the pueblo tribes are amerindian and the dine are athabaskan with both having mtDNA testing done to find out their origins. Both are Asian--not middle eastern!


angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Hiddnfox @ Jan 12 2006, 10:16 AM) [snapback]1017919[/snapback]

there is a strong belief both in the hopi community and the mormon community here in Utah that the hopi's were descendants of the lost tribes of israel.

but hey! who knows. I will ask him about cannibals. I do remember him coming back with all his fingers though.....


Well...let's just say the Mormons have an active imagination.
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