Hi, this may seem like a stupid thread but I happen to know that this would be the perfect place to gather people's experiences on their spiritual possession. Whether you consider it demonic or not, it doesn't really matter to me in this case, I would like to hear some experiences and stories possibly for an upcoming film I may or may not decide to make within the next couple of years and I certaintly don't want to make a piece of crap so I'm putting real stories and events together and go from there, maybe even a docuementary, who knows

I'm also hear to learn so if you have any stories or can relate to anything spiritual please share

Nope never been oh wait NOOOO!!!...

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lol nope never been possesed

BEGONE EVIL DOER!

I'm a tard

Nope!!

No, I've never been possessed. About the movie, are you doing an amatuer movie or a full production one?

Would anyone that has been "slain in the spirit" or spoken in tongues or danced be included?

I haven't but certainly have seen it.

AHHHH!! woo thanks buddy

OMG!!! IF YOU NEVER BEEN POSSESSED, THAN WHY ARE YOU EVEN REPLYING!!!

Don't really know, for now I'm just going to be making the script, don't expect anything anytime soon, this is why I need material

Nope, never posessed as far as I know.

I've seen people "speaking in tongues," though.

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Hi, this may seem like a stupid thread but I happen to know that this would be the perfect place to gather people's experiences on their spiritual possession. Whether you consider it demonic or not, it doesn't really matter to me in this case, I would like to hear some experiences and stories possibly for an upcoming film I may or may not decide to make within the next couple of years and I certaintly don't want to make a piece of crap so I'm putting real stories and events together and go from there, maybe even a docuementary, who knows

I'm also hear to learn so if you have any stories or can relate to anything spiritual please share

Okay, BW, I've got an actual "possession" story. It was in the context of a magical working my mentor and I devised 17 years ago to aid in the healing of my masculinity/sexuality. You see, my father raped me when I was a small child so I had some serious healing to do. The main thing we did was summon a "moon god." The kind of witchcraft my mentor practiced was a mix of European witchcraft, Native American shamanism and Voudoun so the specific terminology beloved by white Europeans: god, demon, spirit are largely conventional. I'd say the thing we summoned was one of the "old powers of the Earth." A Christian Gnostic magician friend of mine whom I described the experience to thought the thing must have been demonic because it changed form more or less constantly and he said godforms don't do that. Thing is, it didn't stink and it wasn't purely destructive and it felt like an ancient and noble spirit to me.

Anyway, back to the story. My mentor and I both saw the thing as it approached. When it really gets going, my clairvoyance tends to bifurcate my vision along the vertical plane. I see two very distinct images in front of me, what I would call "the other world" with the mundane world superimposed over and slightly above it. I am able to focus my attention on one world or the other sort of the way you can focus your vision on what you see through the window or upon the window itself. The thing was visible as a dot on the horizon and gradually got bigger.

First and foremost, the thing was profoundly masculine, utterly male. If I hadn't have been in circle I would have been terrified. It's appearance vacillated between a horse, a grasshopper and Elvis. As it approached I began to move in a trance. Eventually the thing was at the door of the room. I knew that if it came through the door of the room it would also be coming into me. I found that I was open to the idea. I began to move my body in a spiral trance (I go into trance pretty readily). I saw that the "door" to me was at the base of my neck and could feel the "moon god" there. My mentor watched the process carefully as the spirit and I conversed.

The thing had an awful lot to say. What he told me encompassed evolution and desire and sex and rape and hatred and vengeance and acceptance and joy and total abandonment and childishness and play and destruction and longing and a hundred other more subtle things. He told me that the great paradox of rape is that orgasm/sex was an absolute good, untainted and divine even in rape; that's why it's so confusing. Rape is a terrible thing, but the creative force embodied in sex is so much more powerful than violation that even in the midst of rape sex is joyous; and that's okay. It is not evil; it is not broken; it merely is. I felt the god's wish to ravish my mentor and I could see that I liked the idea, I could imagine participating in it fully, even though it could mean the death of the body--

Well, my mentor knew perfectly well what was going on and she put a stop to it. As I clairvoyantly saw her, she rose into the air and became absolutely huge and the thing moved away very quickly and yet with the greatest solemnity and nobility and vanished. My mentor and I were left alone, naked in her livingroom and she told me it was time for me to take a bath.

In the bath I told her what I'd seen and described what had happened as best I could. As I got to the description of the conversation I began to sway back and forth and feel the moon god returning. My mentor abruptly got up and left the room. When she came back a moment later she had some sort of cylinder in one hand and she flung some kind of gravel at me.

Here's the thing: in that moment, when she threw the rock salt over me, I was filled the most intense rage I've ever felt. I began a yell that lost all it's power almost as it began. The rage burned only for an instant like flash paper, and was gone. It was amazing, because I'd thought my feelings since the ritual had been my own, but when the salt hit me I knew the rage belonged to the "god" as it was sent away. That thing wanted in and it wanted agency and it had been working on me the whole time. Suddenly being free of it, I remember being filled with relief and hilarity. I don't remember if I laughed or was just struck dumb by the whole thing. I think we did laugh eventually.

It was extraordinary. So much had been resolved that night. The main thing was that this huge weight of fear I'd been carrying--about my father, the incest, my own sexuality, my rape, my own capacity for violence--this huge weight was lifted. The moon god had shown me my darkest thoughts, my darkest potential, my darkest self and somehow I could accept it as human, normal, understandable and not dangerous. Since the incest, I had carried a terrible fear that I would follow in my father's footsteps and pass the violent legacy (demon?) on to its next victim, and this fear, though not completely and conclusively destroyed at that time was profoundly reduced. In the weeks that followed the ritual I became more and more aware that for me the danger that I would continue the legacy of abuse was over and done. I was freed.

Was it a demon? Was it a god? Was it one of the "old powers of the Earth?" Probably.

Boltwave,

This is one of the most thoughtful threads I've seen in regard to filmmaking on this site. It's not stupid in any way. Your willingness to learn despite what you've been taught otherwise is admirable.

Just a few questions, in case you believe your script will have screen potential:

How much of the story are you willing to devote to the victim's pain that leads to possession? And can this be done effectively without driving people from the theater in tears or with soiled undergarments?

Have you considered how mundane these attacks can become from the victims' perspective after several weeks/months?
There are so many paranormal events that lead up to the possession attempts, that it's barely a shock at all by the time your soul is ripped from the body and tossed like a yo-yo. Yes, this happened to me. And I lost control of my body for brief moments in the night on a few occasions, but never during waking hours. The next morning I'd get up and eat my cereal like any other red-blooded, American bachelor. Deep depression does not strike like lightning and fling a person into a sudden possession. It's gradual, and seldom escalates unless uneducated, external influences magnify the negative emotions to empower the entities toward a Hollywood scale. It goes without saying that there are feelings of hopelessness in the beginning, but joy and love are all it takes to bounce back.

Is a victim failing to wake up in a state of panic in the mornings following possession attempts going to provide enough sensationalism for your movie? Documentary or otherwise?

Are you prepared to be called a fool by the world of skeptics if your script should go Hollywood?

All Readers,

Please be advised that there is disturbing, sexual abuse-related content below and heartfelt words regarding my recently deceased father, so close this thread now if you feel that you cannot tolerate such discussion. However, I feel it's important to reveal it for the sake of Boltwave's script's integrity and as a show of respect to others who have suffered in innumerable ways throughout life. I meet a variety of men who have relationships to their mothers that suggest similar abuse to my own, but given that every therapist to whom I spoke cried, it must be fairly uncommon to retrieve these memories from the repressed state.

These are not ordinary lives by any measure that lead to possession phenomena, so it's going to be a difficult script to compose with any hope of marketability. Stories such as mine and HK's are not for mass consumption. Stephen King's Carrie is a fairly accurate, though watered-down, representation of the sort of home life that one could expect of a possession victim. The supernatural powers portrayed were extreme, but the obsessively Christian mother paints a shocking portrait of the deep depression that results from misinformation mixed with poor parenting.

My mother abused my brother and myself, I believe, in part because my father was a closet homosexual. Many of her needs were failing to be met, and it was in 1997 that I had my father's status confirmed by my mother, following his phase of homophobic remarks and related anger/paranoia. If my intuitions of having been my paternal grandfather in the previous life are true, bizarre as that is, I cannot fault my father for not being honest about his sexual orientation. Strict, military families, especially those in the 40s and 50s were far less accepting of homosexuality than the mainstream. Perhaps the reincarnation issue explains why I had such an emotional closeness to him in some of his final years once I'd reached adulthood.

What my mother did to my brother and me is completely unforgivable, but to heal I must love her soul as I do any other. I can hate her brain for all eternity, and I'm not a fan of human brains as I've stated before, but I cannot, must not, hate her soul. Her soul is a part of me, and a part of every one of you as one of God's creations.

Through her control issues and bodily function fetish, my mother opted not to potty train my brother nor myself. This was something she had always done for us, she took pleasure in it, she was oddly fascinated by excretory humor, and it's not as if these issues are discussed in public, so how was I to know that anything was wrong? It wasn't until I was 10 years old and had had more public exposure without her presence that I sensed something horrible was afoot. My deepest state of depression began around age 15 when I'd go to bed with a bag over my head, hoping to asphyxiate. Thankfully, obviously, I never succeeded. I knew something in my life was out of whack, but it took many more years to find answers. In 1993, when I learned of the genetic blindness, the asphyxiation attempts were coupled with self mutilation, and a bitterness that I wore on my face as visibly as spectacles.

It was at the age of 27 when I realized how sick my mother was and severed ties. I avoided contact with my father, too, and he died this past October. I hadn't seen him in over 5 years and wasn't able to say, "Goodbye". In the end, I didn't blame him for the abuse that he did nothing to prevent, because I knew in my heart that he lacked the emotional fortitude to confront his wife. I didn't get a chance to tell him that, either. I did see him in spirit about 3 or 4 times following his death, and they were peaceful dream encounters.

I'm confident that he has now reincarnated and I have no worry of his emotional state. My brother told me that my dad had a vision of me while he was in the hospital on a minor dose of morphine, and he was happy in seeing that vision. I felt very moved by this, and began to cry for joy and sorrow, simultaneously. Then, cruelly, my brother mentioned that my father had also seen a vision of a cat holding a gun. My dad loved cats as I do, and he was a proud member of the NRA, so it made sense to me in a weird way that he'd see something like that. Though I didn't appreciate the jokery that surrounded my brother's testimony, nor the urge for frivolous revelation. My brother's fears of the unknown and possibly jealousy for not being seen in a vision himself tainted what would have otherwise been a beautiful memory of my father in his dying days. White lies are okay, sometimes.

A few of you likely laughed or groaned in disgust at the nature of my abuse, and that's a perfectly normal response to a f---ed up situation. But realize that the affects went far beyond the bathroom. I wasn't led to believe that this was something I could do alone, so staying at friends' houses for sleep-overs, going to camp for a week, or any such thing was a nightmare about which I worried throughout my youth. Sense of autonomy, freedom, self-confidence, social development, etc., were all affected. As a teen, I feared public restrooms, and this doesn't even begin to describe the gravity of my suffering in the physical or metaphysical realm. I found my comfort in academic pursuits, and that accounts for my writing ability. However, it's taken the bulk of my life to develop any sort of emotional fitness.

I think I've provided enough background at this point, so if you take anything from this, at the very least you should open your mind to the fact that it's not just men who can be filthy perverts. Most importantly, for your own sake, you're far better off loving them in spite of their sickness than hating them; hate destroys you, not them.

Actually I'm not sure that it will be a film on possession or demonic opression, the thing is, possession has been used too much in the Holywood theme, I wanted to make it unique, or I may just go with a docuementary

I've heard stories from the bloody marry chant to etc, some events I will leave out, some I will use for a story, something that fits together and somehow connects and relates

To answer your final question not every one has a taste for one movie genre or another, so I'm prepared for any negative criticism

Good man, Boltwave. If this site should ever lose viewership and shut down, you can E-mail me anytime for consultation if you decide to go forth with the script. On a volunteer basis, naturally. Your money's no good, here. I'd love to see something realistic in this genre without people losing their popcorn, among other things, in the theater.

vodka or tequila ?

Some might need a stiff drink after watching even the most believable account of possession. Personally, I'd kick back and relax, nodding or shaking my head as appropriate, with a piping hot cup of green tea.

Believe it or not we had an horrible experience today..my mother had been possessed by someone unknown to our family, since we don't know anyone that hated my mother that died. She had scratches all over her body, 3 ''dots'' in her head bleeding. From what she told me she was writen in her back ''B-----''. I have it recorded if you want to hear it, I don't know if it will sound real to you, but it was very real. Seeing this type of stuff is horrible, I hope it never happens to any of you guys.
I will look for the file and I will post it in a second, just wait.

nope neve been possessed. sorry

ok, it is an hour later.....why would it take you so long to find anyway, just out of curiosity..?

If you haven't already read my thread about Possessions and my 20 years of dealing with it you should read some of it if you want to.
It tells who and why.
And as God is my Witness everything I write is true but many don't believe it and I think they say this because accepting what I say as the Truth is just too frightening.

You do realise that Bloody Mary was Queen Mary 1st of England and the only reason she had this nickname was because of her zeal to kill Protestants because they didn't follow Catholicism? It has absolutely nothing to do with Mary Queen of Scots, bathing in virgins blood or "mirror witches".

Here are two posts I made on this topic with links. (I made a booboo in the first post; it should have been 1516 - 1558, 1553 is when her reign started, not her birth )

Edit: Try Googling the words "janet langlois 1978" there are many sites that confirm she is the source of this urban legend without even adding the words "bloody mary" to narrow the search

my dads friend told me that once him and his pals wher out for a night and that he seen a spirit enter a human body but of course he never seen the person again but he still remembers the night clearly

YES!! in fact i m this very moment

I personly have never been possessed by a spirit... but the guy I used to work with recond he was possessed by a demon and had a chip in his brain to control it.... what a fool

He may be telling the truth.

Evil Spirits like to do all these terrible things to Human Brains as I have written in my Post on here somewhere about Spirit Possessions.

People will never fully believe these things unless they have the experience themselves.

I've been trying to talk the Spirits out of my body and tell them they should become teachers and go teach others that what I am writing is true and I believe this is the only way they can spread their word that the Spirit World is for Real and that Spirit Possessins are a true reality.

I'm hoping that my appointment with the Demonologist goes well at our appointment in February and hopeful that he and the Psychics he is bringing with him can talk or shoo these Spirits out of my Body and off to other Realms or whatever they decide is their next mission on their path to teaching Life after Death.

Trust me he woz crazy he endend up havin a break down and the doctors scaned his brain and guess what no chip.... he woz just a crazy kid who experimented with 2 many drugs simple.

yep... when i was just leaving for school( i was 8) i was walking down my old iron stairs (knowone else was home ) and i felt weird , really cold and dizzy and i thought i saw a girl my age but i didnt think anything of it. then, while i was walking to school i tripped on the road and fell down, face first. and when i tried to get up,i just couldnt.i felt like i was fighting someone inside my head. after about 7 minutes (though it felt like hours) the other person left my head. after that i struggledto walk the 100 metres to school and when i entered class , the teacher took one look at me and sent me straight to the office. nothing else happened to me of the strange natureuntill bedtime, when i unexpectedly run outside to the backyard and started digging in the dirt against my will . i still have now idea what happened but i belive it to be something supernatural.

nope, i have never been possesed, but there are lots of threads abvout possesion. look at some of them maybe youll be able to use one of them

btw, if you do make a movie, i would like to see it (i'm guessing that will be in a long time though) anyway, bye! ttyl!

Tenshi,

I wouldn't hold out too much hope on this one. At the very least, my offer to help him, voluntary or otherwise, is officially off. It would require an open mind, one willing to accept constructive criticism and the significant role of trauma in this phenomenon for me to lend any support.

Time permiting, browse Boltwave's posts in the "Spirit Possessions" thread, and how he treats Rosemary, if you believe that a workable screenplay is in his future.


Take care,
Brian

Are you serious? Do you really think someone can control a spirit with a "chip" in their brain???

Unbelievable Rosemary, just unbelievable that you say these things can be handled by micro-chips and chicken feathers and oh god it goes on!

Another thing, if these things where spirits they wouldn't need to use you to prove "life after death" and if they could, why would they? That makes no sense, these spirits aren't here to prove anything, if they really wanted control over you it is to make you do something against your will or to harm you and family members/friends, they would have no other means of possessing you, because then it would be waisting their time.

Why are you bringing up your story in every single thread? Why can't you just state your opinion and leave it at that? Why must you go on and on about your experiences and just keep it short and simple?


Please Rosemary, we've all heard your story, and now let's just try to seek a light at the end of the tunnel, okay? By all means neccesary, this is what we need to accomplish, your done telling your story, now let's think of a solution

Guess I missed the part about the Chip in the brain and was just going for the word Possessed.

I of course know that a Spirit cannot put a chip into a human brain so of course that is preposterous.

Now As far as you keep harping on how I am not possessed and this spirit is not Evil and this one is not and this is good and etc. etc

I will just chock the nasty things you are saying up to your inexperience and your wanting to tear me down so you can appear more important and so go ahead, one day you will get more experience and you will know that I am the one who knows what they are talking about and you are the one who is searching for answers about the after life just as I did once.
But time cures all things and you will learn this as you develop and I feel if you were not so pig headed and know it all about this situation you would be a lot better off because I believe your attitude can be very damaging to someone like me who knows a lot which they want to share with others and your attitude can also discourage others who are trying to learn.

Now wait a minute, that's what you've been saying, your the one that keeps talking about good and bad spirit guides, no? Aren't you the one that has been saying "the good spirit guides told me this about the bad spirits"? I'm one of the people that keeps telling you that your problem concerns demons if it isn't about mental illness, and you are right, spirits have eyes and see everything.



I'm not hear to tear you down so I can appear more important to the world, I don't need that, and if you have read my post in "Possession vs. Mental illness" I believe, I'm not quite sure, you will find I'm not as "inexperienced" and nor am I the world's biggest expert.



What you've said alone stirs up people's opinions, this has little to do with what I think, it's how your presenting yourself to the public, allot of what you said can make someone think you have a mental illness, or that it is the cause of demonic forces, or they may agree with you all in all.

Is this why your name is Emily Rose?

kinda....... i just like the name

I see..........

if youre so curious ,have you everbeen posessed?

No, although I have had my share of voices and a couple of times I've felt a cold chill like a presence was near by, ha ha

hmm...................... , ok then.

Yes siree

hmmmm.... id just like to point out that im a GIRL not a SIREE

Not possessed but iv been in some unexplainable situations oh good luck with your movie.

I figured that Ms. Emily Rose

Now Boltwave one of the problems is you're getting the characters in my Heavenly Soap Opera mixed up and this is leading to some of the Confusion.

Good vs. Bad.

What I said is there are four mean Spirits and they are not Guides at all they are trouble makers and as I said no matter what anyone says, the are demons now but when they walked the Earth they were three of my Relatives and Dr,. P. and now because of the path they have chosen to follow in the Spirit World they are known as fallen angels.

In addition to them I have at least four other full time Spirits of the good Kind who work here with me and pass along Psychic Information from the Higher Realms and they are always trying to help me talk the other four out of my body and hope they get it together before the Paranormal Group comes and investigates and tries to help me get rid of them one way or the other.
I have several good guides that work with me doing all sorts of things including cooking and shopping and by that I mean they help me create new receipes and one is trying to get me to work on a Cook book but frankly I am not sure I could do that.

He wanted to call it:

"Cooking with the Angels" and says he thinks if someone would film some segments and by someone I am talking about my relatives who know how to operate a camera so we can keep expenses down because one of the Guides is very cheap in the Spirit World just as they say he was when he walked the Earth.

But anyway today I had a pint of soup he had me make a few months ago and can and today is the first time I tasted it and it was the most fantastic soup anyone as ever had and beats all the ones on the Supermarket Shelf.

What does this have to do with anything you might ask.

Well I think its so unusual because this man has been in the Spirit World for a very long time and no one believes I am really talking to him and he was hoping that you and others would think that this is something that I am right here right now writing with those in the Spirit World and some of them are not happy with you Boltwave because of the terrible things you are saying calling me mentally ill and all those things just because you can't believe that I ahve so many friends in the Spirit World who are not behaving badly like Carrie, Eve, George and Dr. P. and each day they try to counsel those four and get them to mend their Evil Ways and clean off their wings and fly right.

We have discussed you at great lengths when I'm off the computer and they believe if you would just spend more time learning to communicate with the Spirit World and believe more maybe they could send some good Guides to work with you and others who want to because there is always a need for more Channels for Spirit because as you can see from these posts they like to write and have a lot to say.

Just today they were saying I thought we had problems on the Skeptic Forum trying to get through to them but some of them on this Forum are a lot more Skeptical than we wanted them to be.

So, what are you saying? Do these spirits know who I am? I mean this in all seriousness, and I'm only trying to understand so I can break this down, do these spirits have any information on me? If these spirits know so much, do they know who I am personally? (Seriously)

They are writing here with me and they read everything that I read because they are always with me.

They have told me nothing Personal about you and are only interacting as people exchange information on the Forum.

Sometimes they like to have a little fun on the keyboard as we were having in the last post.

The four Possessing Spirits are actually prisoners in my body and go nowhere unless I take them in the Car and they know nothing about anyone unless they eavesdrop on the Psychic Information that is transmitted to me from a Higher Realm.

The Guides on the Higher Realms one of them who appears to me as an Older man and has told me he is God our father in Heaven no doubt knows everything about you but he doesn't discuss these things with me.

The Possessing Spirits hiding in my body he of course doesn't want them to be there and he tries all the time to talk them out and just today he said he hopes they leave my body before the Demonologist gets here next month because at that time they will learn what is going to be their fate if the are not out of my body and off to the higher Realms of the Spirit World.

MISS thankyou very much

Uhhhhh...........okay