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SG7
I herd some in 2000 that a dino skelltion of a plesiosaurus (fossils) was found on the bank of the loc. this gave me and my mother the idea that ness may be a ghost. that is why we can't find it any ware.

what do you all think?
BurnSide
I'd like to know where you heard a Plesiosaur fossil was found at Loch Ness, because i've never heard anything like that.
MJB222
No. All I can say is no. We can't find it anywhere because it probably doesn't exist. And it's not a ghost because they don't exist either.





Unless it's a ninja. ph34r.gif Or a jedi. cool.gif Or a ninja jedi ph34r.gif cool.gif
aquatus1
I believe SG7 is referring to a fossilized Plesiosaur vertabrae found in the banks. It turns out, however, that the vertebrae was imbedded in a limestone that doesn't come from that area, and indeed, the discovery of the fossil itself, as a isolated rock in the water of a muddy bank, leads many to think that it was planted intentionally.
SG7
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Jan 10 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]1015637[/snapback]

I'd like to know where you heard a Plesiosaur fossil was found at Loch Ness, because i've never heard anything like that.

I head it on discovery or one of thowes channels.
Carrie Anne
QUOTE(SG7 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1015634[/snapback]

I herd some in 2000 that a dino skelltion of a plesiosaurus (fossils) was found on the bank of the loc. this gave me and my mother the idea that ness may be a ghost. that is why we can't find it any ware.

what do you all think?


I guess it could be possible, but I cannot say for sure. With all the sightings, I think it is possible something is there, whether it be a ghost or some sort of animal, who knows? Maybe one day someone will do further research on this.
If it is as big as most people claim it is, you would think that it would be fairly easy to investigate with the proper equipment. I don't know much at all about the legend or stories surrounding it. Does anyone have any links on it? I don't mind googling it, but I thought some who believe in this might already have some sites in their favorites.
Carrie Anne
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]1015656[/snapback]

I believe SG7 is referring to a fossilized Plesiosaur vertabrae found in the banks. It turns out, however, that the vertebrae was imbedded in a limestone that doesn't come from that area, and indeed, the discovery of the fossil itself, as a isolated rock in the water of a muddy bank, leads many to think that it was planted intentionally.


This is what really irritates me about hauntings, mysteries, etc. People want so badly for others to believe, that they go to the trouble to try to trick people into believing, when all they end up doing is causing more people to think the whole thing was made up to begin with. I wish more people would do genuine research on things, rather than planting evidence.
Nessieman23
There is only one ghost story in Loch Ness that I know of... It's about a ghost ship...(not the Flying Dutchman) It is said to appear every full moon (cyclic ghost) and It is full of will-0-wisps...(haloes in scotland I think) and it was going to ram into a fishermans ship and at the last moment...It Dissapeared!! w00t.gif ! Who likes that! Nessie is not a ghost...just... no.gif ...No...I will not believe it!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ohmy.gif
jpatt
Nessie, presuming not a hoax or misidentification, is a sibling of ghosts, however, being an inconstant phenomenon.
distortedpandy
clicky clicky grin2.gif

topics are somewhat similar
DeadRobot
Nessy could be one the following:

1. Bullsh**.
2. A twig/branch seen by over-active imaginations.
3. A hype created to boost inverness' tourist trade.
4. A ghost of a dinosaur (why not?).
5. A submarine used by the natzis who still dont know that the war is over but are still using thier prototype cloaking device that makes them invisible to sonar (ok that one might be a bit far fetched)
6. (mookies suggestion) An immortal vegetarian dinosaur, that lives off of moss, lycan tree leaves etc etc. (i prefered #5 and #10)
7. A semi-solidified (becomes solid when desired - no puns please) thought-form.
8. An elephant (was said on news - reporting scotland BBC1, completely #1. if you ask me)
9. A submersive squirrel.
10. An off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic warden.
11. (mookies suggestion) A genetically engineered experiment that went horribly wrong.

Tho all could be possible (some more than others and other being very very unlikely unless someone manages to develop the improbability drive or reality is far stranger than my little world(and Mookie's).) ok enough of my silliness, hope that answers ...um... something. original.gif
Captain Rachael
QUOTE(DeadRobot @ May 10 2006, 12:23 PM) [snapback]1182321[/snapback]

Nessy could be one the following:

1. Bullsh**.
2. A twig/branch seen by over-active imaginations.
3. A hype created to boost inverness' tourist trade.
4. A ghost of a dinosaur (why not?).
5. A submarine used by the natzis who still dont know that the war is over but are still using thier prototype cloaking device that makes them invisible to sonar (ok that one might be a bit far fetched)
6. (mookies suggestion) An immortal vegetarian dinosaur, that lives off of moss, lycan tree leaves etc etc. (i prefered #5 and #10)
7. A semi-solidified (becomes solid when desired - no puns please) thought-form.
8. An elephant (was said on news - reporting scotland BBC1, completely #1. if you ask me)
9. A submersive squirrel.
10. An off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic warden.
11. (mookies suggestion) A genetically engineered experiment that went horribly wrong.

Tho all could be possible (some more than others and other being very very unlikely unless someone manages to develop the improbability drive or reality is far stranger than my little world(and Mookie's).) ok enough of my silliness, hope that answers ...um... something. original.gif



Bahhahahahah!
Hmm Nessie being a ghost kind of ruins the novelty of it all, dont you think?
boorite
45 lb conger eels over 6 ft long have been found in the loch. It wouldnt be hard to mistake such a thing for a plesiosaur neck.

Congers do get even bigger than that.
Tom Frogman
QUOTE(SG7 @ Jan 11 2006, 09:40 AM) [snapback]1015634[/snapback]

I herd some in 2000 that a dino skelltion of a plesiosaurus (fossils) was found on the bank of the loc.

Wooh-boy.
I've been in and out of the community recently and out of the info-ring even longer, but I don't ever recall reading or hearing of that. Could you provide a link to your source at all if you still have it?

QUOTE(SG7 @ Jan 11 2006, 09:40 AM) [snapback]1015634[/snapback]

this gave me and my mother the idea that ness may be a ghost. that is why we can't find it any ware.

Heh. A plesiosaur ghost inhabiting the loch? We're not too far off pulling a Beckjord, here.
I personally don't think it's all too likely.

QUOTE(boorite @ May 10 2006, 04:04 PM) [snapback]1182423[/snapback]

45 lb conger eels over 6 ft long have been found in the loch. It wouldnt be hard to mistake such a thing for a plesiosaur neck.

Yeah, more recently - although I'm not sure we ever truly found the creature - it was theorised that an enourmous Conger Eel within the Loch would not only be far more plausible than a surviving family of plesiosaur, but has more evidence in support of it.

I would like to believe that Nessie is indeed a prehistoric creature, but I'm also the first to admit that the evidence against such a theory is pretty incriminating to say the least. As far as our ghostly friend from the ethereal plane theory goes? Well, I'm not in favor of it. ^^

Still, everybodies got something to believe in.
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insecurity
QUOTE(DeadRobot @ May 10 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]1182321[/snapback]

Nessy could be one the following:

5. A submarine used by the natzis who still dont know that the war is over but are still using thier prototype cloaking device that makes them invisible to sonar (ok that one might be a bit far fetched)


ROFLMAO! w00t.gif Briliant....Actually it wont be all that far fetched if you take it over to the conspiracies board....they will have a field day with it provided they haven't already discussed it....
boorite
They actually did find the dead 6-ft 45 lb conger.
DeadRobot
QUOTE(boorite @ May 10 2006, 11:17 AM) [snapback]1182472[/snapback]

They actually did find the dead 6-ft 45 lb conger.


Could have been a plant, and at the same time you get shots/reports of it having 'bumps' behind it indicating its roughly 13+ ft just on the surface of the water.

I am however favouring this theory over my own. original.gif
Pax Unum
there isn't any proof of a Loch Ness monster... and a ghost nessie is just preposterous... thumbsup.gif
The Doctor
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ May 10 2006, 02:44 PM) [snapback]1182613[/snapback]

there isn't any proof of a Loch Ness monster... and a ghost nessie is just preposterous... thumbsup.gif

I agree and loc is actually spelt loch.
Mookie
If nessie was a ghost wouldnt it appear less solid in those pictures?
Mind you if there fake then anythings possible, even the silly idea that its a really big cammel, as in some pictures nessie has humps original.gif but i honestly doubt it, think ill stick with the ideas that Deadrobot posted tongue.gif
Ferran the Skeptic
From what I've heard, strictly speaking, animals such as nessie wouldn't have the necessary emotional depth to create a ghost.
boorite
QUOTE(DeadRobot @ May 10 2006, 10:47 AM) [snapback]1182487[/snapback]

Could have been a plant, and at the same time you get shots/reports of it having 'bumps' behind it indicating its roughly 13+ ft just on the surface of the water.

I am however favouring this theory over my own. original.gif


The two big congers that were found had gaff marks all over them and so had probably been dumped overboard by a trawler crew.

What photos are you referring to that indicate a creature 13 ft long in the loch?

Eyewitness judgements of the size of submerged creatures are notoriously unreliable. See "fish story." original.gif

--Scott
greywolf
QUOTE(Carrie Anne @ Jan 11 2006, 01:23 AM) [snapback]1016058[/snapback]

This is what really irritates me about hauntings, mysteries, etc. People want so badly for others to believe, that they go to the trouble to try to trick people into believing, when all they end up doing is causing more people to think the whole thing was made up to begin with. I wish more people would do genuine research on things, rather than planting evidence.

i have to agree with carrie anne.i personally believe that nessie is either a large salt water eel or a drifting log or a combination of both.my drunken uncle said he thinks nessie is the cartoon sea serpent from "Beany and Cecil".
DeadRobot
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 13 2006, 08:13 PM) [snapback]1187075[/snapback]

i have to agree with carrie anne.i personally believe that nessie is either a large salt water eel or a drifting log or a combination of both.my drunken uncle said he thinks nessie is the cartoon sea serpent from "Beany and Cecil".


You should get you drunken uncle on here, I think he would be a fantastic addition to the forum grin2.gif
greywolf
QUOTE(DeadRobot @ May 13 2006, 01:37 PM) [snapback]1187103[/snapback]

You should get you drunken uncle on here, I think he would be a fantastic addition to the forum grin2.gif

hi deadrobot,
i tried but he keeps falling out of the chair!!!!
Mookie
QUOTE(Ferran the Skeptic @ May 10 2006, 10:46 PM) [snapback]1183286[/snapback]

From what I've heard, strictly speaking, animals such as nessie wouldn't have the necessary emotional depth to create a ghost.


What do you mean by emotional depth?
Are you trying to say that only people can have ghosts as they have the emotional depth?
That is quite absurd if you ask me. If people can have ghosts then why not animals?
DeadRobot
QUOTE(Mookie @ May 15 2006, 01:38 AM) [snapback]1188704[/snapback]

What do you mean by emotional depth?
Are you trying to say that only people can have ghosts as they have the emotional depth?
That is quite absurd if you ask me. If people can have ghosts then why not animals?

I agree with Mookie here with a little scene i thought of:

Ghost interviewer: Ah, yes Ms. Cam****l as yes I have your report here, whats that? oh i'm sorry no you dont qualify for that I'm afraid too... whats the word... depth as yes lack of depth thats right! Getting forgetful with the whole done this for all eternity lark. Right then if you would just like to follow the light that'll be all... *ahem*... ... *points at the light*... *taps his foot* (years pass) *pulls out a spectral shaver and starts cleaning his face a bit* Um yes yes sorry to interupt... yes you said... yes now step into the light, please. ... ... (more years pass) ... ...*right eye now twiching* RIGHT, F**KIT! *boots said spirit into the light closely followed by a huge round of applause from the void, hell, heaven, spiritual earth,valhalla and many other religious places of rest/termoil I've failled to meantion*...*wipes his wrinkley old brow, bows then scarpers to the next entity thats just snuffed it*.

The end.

*ceases scoffing popcorn* So by that little tale I just conjoured if that were the case there would be serious problems having to be at a certian awareness in order to be able to wander about post death due to nothing being fully black and white more loads of shades of grey.
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