This Topic Is Really Bugging Me.I Really Whant to Know who it is.The First antichrist was napolian The and Was Hitler Who Do YOU think it is The next.

Sabum. He is not yet born.

Who in the hell i sabum?

Wasn't the first emperor Nero?

who knows but he or she will only show itself when the time comes. It could be bush

it was nero, but to be honest theres been worst men in history than the lot of them put together.

I believe it might be someone that everyone least expects to be evil, but will then show his true side when he has gained political and religious control of almost the entire world.

Remember that this is just my opinion

I found this statement on a conspiracy site and it reads as follows.

In addition to revealing the timing of the first and second coming of the Prince of Peace, also called the Messiah, the prophet Daniel reveals yet another prince who shall also arrive. He is mentioned in Daniel 9:26-7, “...and the people of the Prince that shall come shall destroy the City and the Sanctuary...” which speaks of both the original Roman destruction of Jerusalem and it's Temple in 70 AD and of a future time when the Antichrist - often referred to as the little prince, little horn, and later as King (see Dan. 11:36) rises out of a newly formed European Empire to take his rightful throne of Messianic authority, the power of his Merovingian kingship, sword of his Atlantean rule and ancient Crown of the Red Dragon, shall also destroy the Holy City and it's new Temple. First heralded as a prince of peace uniting the world into One, he shall yet come seeking Zion, and Zion has long sought him.

I suspect Martha Stewart....but that's just me.

lol....do you think the prince of peace is coming?

god will tell who is next in time.

Peewee Herman is definitely the 3rd Antichrist, and David Hasselhoff is his false prophet.....

maybe the only peace will come, when there is no one left.

I hope it doesnt go that far. some biblical texts suggest there will be less.

this pope......

It could be the pope, someone should talk to his publisist in most pictures he looks postivatly evil.
It could be bush but he is probably too obvious a candatate, maybe he is just a servant

well according to the big book of christian fantasy beleifs, he resides in a white a throne, probably the white house. However i think the devil lives in a solid concrete bunker 200ft bellow the pentagon at a solid mahogany desk wearing a finely tailored armani suit signing peices of paper all day and handing them to men in military uniforms.

He's not Sabum, he's not- Subam -Mabus backwards, that doesn't exist anyway. He's not getting born, and Mabus is already born if he was going to be already. It's just some may not know if he's alive or dead - or even born at all. Thank Nostradamus, it wasn't like it happened in '99 or anything.

I have mentioned it before - Mabus is supossedly anagrammical to George Bushes last name, and Osamma's first. At the end of Osamma is 'Ma'. & the beginning of Bush - 'Bus'.

Yeah there was a show on the history channel about that the other night. I don't remember who it was about, but they said someone left a written record describing every pope. And they were things like names, and what their symbol was and where they hail from. Things like that. Anyway, they are all correct, and then the list ends with this pope. or one after, i forget.

i heard that this pope will die suddenly in 06 then a new pope will hastily be put in and this pope will flee rome as it is ravaged by war then there is one more pope and then our lord Jesus will return in the final battle so we are looking at about 2032. Cause people say Jesus would return 2000 years after death and everyone thought it was the year 2000 but he was born 2000 years before the year 2000 and died when he was in his early 30s so 2032 is when the world turns to mush

i saw it to i think it was a pope alexader? and now that i think about it i think he saw one more pope after this one


anyway i think its gonna be one of the popes whether it be this one or the next

the guy who forsaw the popes was an irish monastic monk named if i spell it correctly, malachy.

*Marks in on personal assistant: 2032: Armageddon.*

According to Malachy’s prophecies, only two Popes remain after John Paul II meaning the current pope is the penultimate one. The next is the last and signifies the “end of the world” if you believe these prophecies are authentic.

I also read somewhere that the antichrist was meant to appear shortly before the second coming of Christ, at the end of ‘The time of tribulation’. According to most interpretations the time of tribulation is between 2005 and 2012 with more and more trouble in the world each year until 2012. So, perhaps the antichrist will appear shortly before 2012. This fits with Malachy’s prophecy of there being one pope remaining after Benedict XVI. The next few years are going to be an interesting time!

Heh, people HAVE pointed out how similar-looking Benedict is to Emporer Palpatine of STAR WARS.

This is what Nostradamus says about the 3rd Anti-Christ

Out of the country of Greater Arabia Shall be born a strong master of Mohammed,
He will enter Europe wearing a blue turban.
He will be the terror of mankind.
Never more horror.

I have read' some very interesting things on this site.. link below

http://www.armageddononline.org/nostradamus2.php

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Tell me what you all think.

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thats interesting and if someone were to make a movie out of the WWW3 prediction it would be real good


indeed these are interesting times

LOL anyhoo can the antichrist be a girl. And what happens after they come is the battle between good and evil all over the world or will it be a minor thing that will pass and we will never know it happened and are4 religious leaders hiding the truth?

I do believe there will be a battle between good and evil. As it looks now, America is on "evils" side. Everybody knows bush is in bed with the bin ladens, thats why he hasnt been caught. You all know about 6 months ago, they caught Osama Bin Laden with one of those unmanned aircraft that have cameras on it. How odd that the plane did not have any form of protection on it. No guns, no bombs, nothing... So forgive me for being doubltful about bush's plans, but right after that Bin Laden incident, all the unmaned aircraft NOW have bombs attached. If they had even the slightest clue where Bin laden would be, why not add the bombs before you catch him on camera? They assume the public is stupid, which all republicans are, so they just said, "our bad, we put bombs on the aircraft now that we know we could get him" LMAO. Why even send an unmaned aircraft out if you dont think you will get anything?

I dont mean to pretend to be a demigod, but i am starting to think i am the 'King Of Peace'. Let me explain. Way back before the war even started, i was screaming to anyone that would listen "War on Iraq is not the answer!". But even the douchebags who are paid to represent me didnt listen. They just signed the paper and let bush the retard go to war. Another thing, I find it funny how Cindy Sheehan was a huge Republican before her son died, then after that she changed. Listen here little lady, You cant have it both ways. We dont want you on our side, go back to the right wing agenda! Maybe if she hadnt been so on to go to war before her son died, she would have understood what people like me were saying the whole time.

"Real Warriors Pray For Peace, for they know the horrors of war".

"Real Warriors Pray For Peace, for they know the horrors of war".

I LOVE that quote! Makes a lot of sense

I find it interesting that the only blue headgear in *very* common use worldwide is the United Nations blue beret and blue helmet.

Hmm, indeed.

I believe that Barney the Dinosaur is the 3rd coming my mother always said never trust a talking dinosaur

found this a while back concerning the antichrist, i tried to link it but my puters fugliy atm its a lot to read sorry for that. this is not my interpretaion just something i found enjoy..

I p189 (cIII-34)

The Antichrist will spend many years working silently behind the
scenes to consolodate his power, and make his appearance onto the
international arena once the structure is in place. He will have
planned carefully and the countries he goes against will be
unprepared for his golden-tongued treachery.

I p 190 (cVIII-77)

The Antichrist is the power behind the scenes, pulling the strings,
and has not yet made his move to reveal himself. He is like a spider
waiting for his time, taking advantage of the world situation to make
his move.


I p 180

When his time comes he will take advantage of the political situation
in a country to rise to power. It will not matter that he is not a
native of the country. He will take advantage of loopholes and
contrive positions. He may aggressively and audaciously seize a
position in a military organization after his uncle dies, for
example.

I p 234 (cI-34)

The Antichrist will foment rebellions within the countries he's aiming
to take over. He will allow the various political splinter groups to
believe he supports their cause, when he is actually playing them
against each other. The countries will turn in on themselves,
weakening them for his outside conquest.

I p 219 (cII-23)

The Antichrist will take over Iran by using a human decoy to trick the
Ayatollah in power. This will involve the "yes men" and sycophants of
the Ayatollah's court. The Antichrist will first drive away internal
supporters of the Ayatollah by starting a civil war. Then he will put
forth a man as a leader, a man for Iranians loyal to the Ayatollah to
concentrate their hate on. The man will be assassinated while Iran is
being taken over, and his opponents will think they have foiled the
overthrow of power by assassinating him. But they will find out later
he was merely a decoy and that they played into the plans of the
Antichrist.

I p 211 (cII-81)

The Antichrist will initially obtain power in his own sphere, Asia,
and the Middle East. As he grows out of this arena, i.e. into Europe,
the next step will be into the Mediterranean, approaching from the
south, his area of strength. Because of his Middle Eastern heritage
he will have already united North Africans, who are sympathetic to his
cultural background, with his Asian and Middle Eastern conglomerate.


b. Antichrists' unified monetary system
===

I p 219 (cI-40)

The Antichrist will start uniting the monetary systems of his region
to help merge them into a single political entity. His ambition to
rule the world will be advanced by instituting a single currency with
others going defunct. There will be a resistance to this,
particularly by a popular, charismatic leader from Egypt, demanding
the edict and law be withdrawn that requires the Arab nations give up
their currencies and be submissive to the unified political
conglomerate.


c. Antichrist's seizure of Asia
===


I p 189 (cIV-50)

The Antichrist will take over Asia by appointing subcommanders to rule
vast tracts of land for him. But their ties to him will be masked and
the world will not realize they are merely puppets until a succession
of them are installed in the place of predecessors. At first the U.S.
will not interfere because it is thought the government was freely
chosen by the people, but only later realize the leaders were forced
on the populace as mouthpieces and tools for the Antichrist.

I p 188 (cIII-95)

Russia will be his first major Asian
conquest and he will do it not through force but through guile and
his compelling persuasiveness. He will trick the Russians to come
under his power and there will be nothing they can do about it. They
will think they are acting in their own best interests. The Middle
East will be mostly under his control before he turns to Russia. Then
he turns to China and the rest of the Asian continent, to build a
position to take over the entire world. He will not trick the Chinese
but will some other method.


d. Antichrist's cultural eradication & European campaign
===

I p194 (cII-15)

When the second pope is assassinated, the Antichrist will begin his
European campaign. The Prime Minister of Britain and the U.S.
President will go into consultation over the matter. They will meet
at sea like Churchill and Roosevelt did for better security and
secrecy of the meetings.


I p 211 (cII-81)

During the use of his weapons and the ravages of war, one of the
devastatingly effective plans of attack by the Antichrist is to
threaten the destruction of the victim's cultural centers, not so
much physical destruction of the populace. Because the population
attributes great value to places and artifacts with large historical
and cultural significance, the terrorist-extortionist technique will
be very powerful in striking fear into his foe and "bringing them to
their knees".

To put Europe into an initial shock, he will begin to smash and
destroy the city of Rome to rubble via aerial bombing raids. It will
be destroyed to such an extent that the "seven hills of Rome" will be
levelled. Rome will be be so annhilated as to be threatened by an
encroachment from the sea, destroying all that is left.

He will also threaten the cultural centers of Greece and the great
Greek cultural centers of learning, including Athens. Most cultural
treasures and major metropolitan centers of the entire peninsula
will be destroyed. The world leaders will be momentarily shocked and
paralyzed by his barbarity. In the presense of their indeciveness and
absence of their action he will make great strides in taking over
territory and governments. The Antichrist will continually use
shocking and unprecedented moves like these to advance his domination
throughout the entire WWWIII.

The eradication of cultural treasures also fits in with the
Antichrist's ulterior motive of wiping out the established culture to
supplant it with his own, like the Moors attempted when they invaded
Spain, except in his case on the level of an entire continent.

I. p226 (cII-84)

Drought and weather changes will take place during the time of
troubles. The Antichrist will take over Italy and Greece by
destroying the cultural centers to devastate morale of the subjugated
citizens.


e. Antichrist's ravage of the Catholic Church
===

I p214 (cV-43)

In addition to the cultural destruction of European cultural centers,
the Antichrist will ransack the Vatican library with the intent of
ultimately destroying it. He will do this to undermine the authority
of the Vatican and break up the power fragments that remain. One way
he will do this is by revealing important, controversial material
hidden in the Vatican library that the Catholic church will be seen
to have suppressed because of the threat to its authority. This will
cause major schisms in the church as priests and students turn
against each other in their theories and interpretations of the new
material. The confusion and chaos will remove the Catholic church as
an obstacle to the Antichrist's plans.

I p215 (cI-62)

The ransacking of the Vatican library by the Antichrist will bring to
light and open to the world information, facts, and knowledge that
had been suppressed for several centuries. Even though he uses
violence, the Antichrist will actually be burning off his karma
because of the positive effects of the release, starting a new cycle,
higher cycle of his karma.

I p216 (cII-12)

The people involved with the Catholic church, particularly the
priests, will cling to the old order even though it is not viable and
dead as far as working within the reality of the changed times. The
Antichrist and the last pope will be "robbing blind" the Church. The
Antichrist will desecrate and raid the Vatican library and cart away
the treasures of the church to help fund his armies. The Catholic
church will become totally superfluous, and contribute to its own
demise.


f. Antichrist's invasion of Turkey
===

I p 209 (cV-25)

When the Catholic Church in Rome is finally destroyed in a devastating
but mysterious "Act of Nature", people will be distracted from
noticing the more important event of the time, the Antichrist
invading Turkey.

I p 222 (cII-29,V-54)

After the destruction in Italy wrought by the Antichrist, he will go
over the mountains through France via airplane. He will attack Europe
from the south because he will have the solid backing of the Islamic
world and will already have bloodily subjugated North Africa and the
Middle east. He will set up regional headquarters in Turkey, and
other outposts, to rule and advance further conquests.


g. Switzerland alarmed by Antichrist's Nazism in Germany
===

I p 220 (cI-61)

While the Antichrist is in the process of taking over Europe, he will
back the Nazi party in Germany. The current popularity of Nazism
among the youth of Germany will lay the groundwork for this.
Eventually Switzerland will become alarmed and break its
centuries-old tradition of neutrality, taking the side against the
Antichrist and actively fighting.

I. p 229 (cII-39)

Infiltrators, spies, and traitors in Germany, France, Spain, and Italy
will be secretly working for the Antichrist's cause of taking over
Europe. The education establishment will be abandoned because it is
unsupportable during wartime.


h. International (non)reaction to the Antichrist
===

I p 220 (cII-96)

Diplomatic foul-ups in other countries will permit the Antichrist to
attain greater power. In the beginning, when he does not have a broad
base of power but is building on it, those in power elsewhere who can
do something about it will hesitate until it is too late. Even though
people realize he wields great power "from the dark side", his
demonic hatred and magnetism will enhance the fatal attraction. He
will advance his campaign by invading and conquering neighboring
countries, particularly because of the political turmoil and
instability of the realm. Eventually he will subdue the entire Asian
continent under his rule. The Antichrist will be in this period of
increasing his power during the visit of the comet visible from the
Northern hemisphere in about 1997.

I p 225 (cI-37)

The U.S. will vacillate in dissension during the conquests of the
Antichrist. Its power, influence, and "can do" capabilities will
have diminished in the international arena at the time. The populace
will argue over involvement vs. noninvolvement. Shipping will be very
dangerous because of submarine warfare practiced by the Antichrist.
Enemy soldiers in foreign ports will foul up sea-based commerce. Many
decisive battles in his wars will involve seaports. Many people will
die far away from home in the war.

I p 224 (cIII-7)

The various weaker countries threatened by the Antichrist's
imperialism will call on stronger ones for help, like the U.S. which
will initially be neutral and uncommitted. The Antichrist will be
attempting to take over part of the world using aerial warfare. In
one battle in the night a squadron of unmarked planes will rebuff his
advance, sent secretly by the U.S.

I p213 (cV-86)

Responsive, proactive countermeasures could have prevented the
destruction caused by the Antichrist but the political and diplomatic
strife among the Western powers will have failed to have "nipped the
situation in the bud". England and the U.S. will have enough military
power to confront the Antichrist but because of lack of consensus
neither will act quickly. A newly established alliance between the
two is only in its infancy at the time, and the powers have not
established the authority of overall decision-making in time. Also, a
breakdown in communications and transportation will cause important
political analysts to be cut off from advising the leaders. Meanwhile
the Antichrist will be making conquests in leaps and bounds.

also theres this site that claims the russian pressy is the antichrist..look it works now
this is just crazy sounds like the dude is playing conect the dots here but its ineresting as a general read..i guesse

"England and the U.S. will have enough military
power to confront the Antichrist"

hows that work exactly? if the devil does exist[which he doesnt] do you think that military fire power will even affect, what appears to be a supernatural demon of near infinite power who commands a realm of trillions of souls of damned warriors and countless numbers of legions of demons and fallen angels of again near infinite powers?

whoever wrote that is f***** nuts.

(cIII-34) - "Behind" the scenes...people.
As in not dead, not alive yet. Like a prophesy unfullfilled, only it's a human being - not a prophesy. You can't "will" something into existence just because you believe in it so much, if you do - it's like you want there to be a 3rd anti-christ.

The first thing you have to do, is realize that he numbered the anti-christs. Did they want to be numbered? Did they recognize themselves as 1, (Napolean Bonaparte), 2, (Adolph Hitler)?

No, it's not like they wanted it is it?

So we expect the worst - one day at a time, day by day, over a prophesy that would and could be the most horrifying - except it isn't the end of the world.

It's just one man. Just one, he shouldve called it the first anti-christ, with no zero and no room for mistakes or any other number.

see the thing is, fair enough if he did predict things, i have an open mind i beleive in some extreme cases people maybe do have this sorta power. But if he predicted evil men were going to show up in the future of mankind, then he's going to beleive they are the anti-christ based on every bit of christian dogma he knows, he wont say, "oh the devil? nah, this hitler guy just happens to be a very bad man, as are most people in life" because he was brainwashed into beleiveing that if such evil as Hitler did exist in the world then surely it is the work of the devil. So dont take it seriously.

What number do "Anti-Christs" go by?

1?

None?

god will tell us ?? BAH ! what has god ever told us in the past billion years !?!? a and the next antichrist is either sadam hussain,slobodan mlosovich *JEBO TI MATERU*, osama binladen or macdonalds or microsft.

I still dont get why Napoleon and Hitler make the anti-christ list and yet far more vile people in history that tortured and slain millions dont ???

But what IS an anti-christ, other than simply a name given to someone by the mass public

this is all meaningless rubbish

Ever thought that maybe it's not what they did, but the effect they had caused in the near future?

Oh, and I don't believe Napoleon was an anti-christ. No way.

if there is an anti christ, he is the fallen one, an angel who sat at the right hand of god.
wich means he has powers as good as the higher one, so if he is planning something he would be all knowing( seeing as he has reigned as long as time imortal).
It would make sense that his plan will be right under your nose or not at all.
if he is around he is gonna be far superior mentally to us all, an if he is a demon his manolivelince would not allow him to let us in on his little joke(plan).
I dont think the anti christ would give us such obvious suspects as bush or osama they are probably the stooges while we wait for the sucker punch

It's Peewee Herman and David Hasselhoff.

Hey!

Nostradamus writes of Mabus and The Antichrist but some people think that Mabus is refeering to the Antichrist. Nostradumus mentioned that Mabus would arrive when the comet passes, the last time a comet passed was in 1986 so that either means that Mabus was born in 1986 or "he concluded that he was going to be the Antichrist". Nostradamus also said that the Antichrist would come from the Middle East or North Africa.

"The King Of Europe will come like a giffon
accompanied by those of the North. He will Lead
a great troop of red and white. They will march
against the King of Babylon"

okay the King Of Babylon is/was Saddam Hussein and Great Britain and U.S. which is the North have taken him out.
The reason I mention this is becuase of the Middle Eastern link.

Now the Antichrist from the bible was Nero the number 666 could somehow be translated in his name. But did you know that all the bar codes go by a 666 system or something.

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Revelations:13 King James Version of the Holy Bible



"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

Revelation 14:9-12

Last comment Bush is not the antichrist even though I really do not like Bush as a President or a person, some people though that Reagan was the antichrist back in the 80's becuase of his first, middle and last name all had six letters. Besides the bible said that he would be worshipped as a god or something and I do not worship Bush.

Thanks for the read AlteredVoices

Also I don't understand this whole devil talk..

Antichrist

1 : one who denies or opposes Christ; specifically : a great antagonist expected to fill the world with wickedness but to be conquered forever by Christ at his second coming
2 : a false Christ

Hitler and Napoloean both caused the world a lot of evil. The third Antichrist will be an ordinary man who will use his influence to rise in the world and conquer. Not a super demon with powers to turn people into ash with only his stare.

what is the exact definition of an antichrist, does anyone know? because depending on the definition you could come up with different people...

[font=Arial][size=7George W. Bush.....need I say more?????

The antichrist is someone who does christ like work in an unchrist like manner. This is, assuming that good always wins over evil

Example: Tony Montana is an antichrist... We need need people like him so we can point our fingers and say... "look! He's the bad guy."

If like a Christian, you believe Jesus will return 2000 years after his 'death.' That would be approximately 2032...

..What about wormwood? Astronomers have discovered an asteroid nearly a quarter-mile wide that they think might slam into the earth 30 years from now and are urging immediate action by governments around the world to start planning programs to avert that happening.

The asteroid in question was identified in 2004 and studied in 2005 for its trajectory. At first they were scared enough to believe that it could hit the earth in 2029. Then they did some more fine-tuning of their computer data and decided that it would come close to the earth in 2029, but wouldn't be on a possible collision course until 2036.

I thought it interesting, seeing someone bring up the 2032 date, Apophis just stood out.

Onto the bible...
Revelations 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Revelations 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Considering things like this, I'd say your Anti-Christ figure is already alive and breathing. Who it is? I have no clue.

And really? No one knows the day or the hour...