Aiight, it's been awhile since we had a decent Zomb Horror discussion going. So i'm starting one up again, as lately it's been my mission on earth to expand my Zomb Horror collection to it's limits.
Some of you may be startled to know, i've never really owned any Zombie movies. My main focus on the subject came from Lore, Literature and of course, Zomb games. Once i pretty much filled up that collection though, it was time to move onto the movies.

So i now own:

Night of the Living Dead Original, B&W
Night of the Living Dead Tom Savini Remake
Dawn of the Dead Original Ultimate Collectors Edition (Being Delivered)
Dawn of the Dead 04 Remake
Land of the Dead
Shaun of the Dead (Naturally)
28 Days Later
Resident Evil and RE Apocalypse

I think i might be missing a couple but whatev. It's expanding slowly.
My purchases in the near future include the Return of the Living Dead Trilogy, the first is always a blast haha. Day of the Dead is a must for my collection naturally, and i'll eventually get the sequal as well, Contagium, although it doesn't at all fit into the Romero zombie universe. And of course, Zombi is proving difficult to find.


So peeps, discuss your Zomb Horror love here to your hearts content, i'm quite looking forward to some heated discussions on the subject. What are your favourite zombie movies? Best parts in Zombie cinema history? Most gory scene of carnage? etc

Burn. I remember reading something about some Italian zombie film that was extremely good. Have you ever heard of it? Sorry, I don't have name. I do believe this was an older film.

I was actually disappointed with Shaun of the Dead, over here it was a little over-hyped.
But Dawn of the Dead I watched that 3 times with my gf in theatres. That movie was pretty funny and suspenseful. I saw a lot of the older ones ages ago, they were pretty good too from what I remember.

eric the movie you're thinking off is probably Zombi. A classic.

I can imagine Shaun of the Dead wouldn't have as much of a following in England. Outside of England one of the reasons it's so popular is the fact that it is british. For me it really connects me with my roots, the fact that it's set in London is really a massive bonus for me.
I totally loved it, it's my favourite zombie flick for the sheer fact that it's realistic of a real zombie outbreak, their reactions to the situation are fantastic. And the humour in it is really my style.

Burns, you gotta get Fulci's Zombi 2. It's such a great, cheesy, gory zombie flick. Pus it has one of the most disturbing scenes ever put on to film, where this zombie pulls a womans head closer to a sharp piece of wood sticking out of her door as she stuggles, but then it slowly inches towards her eye until it touches it and then starts to go through it. You can see it pop and then sink deeper. It's sick, but very good.

That's the only Fulci zombie movie I've seen, but I've heard the rest of the Zombi series is pretty good, as well as his other movies.

I also heard about this rare zombie movie called Junk that I've been looking all over for but haven't found yet. It's supposed to be extremely good.

I might also recommend Dead Alive. I'm sure you've seen it, but it is THE single most gory movie ever.

And that Day of the Dead 2: Contagium....don't get it....I heard it was absolutely horrible, even for a cheesy zombie movie. And I don't even think it's supposta be a sequel to the original movie. My friend said it was a sequel to another movie. I heard they are actually planning to remake Day, just like they did Dawn.

I also heard that Returns 4 and 5 are very good. Don't know if those are out on DVD yet though.

I've seen Zombi 2, i did very much enjoy it. Yeah i know that scene, i remember being really grossed out. Good call.
Haven't heard of Junk.
Dead Alive is alright, but i didn't enjoy it as much as most people. Definately a good gore factor, although to be honest i think the directors cut of Land tops it. Nothing like 5 minutes of watching zombies pull people apart. I especially love the zombie that reaches into a corpses mouth and pulls out a whole lot of gore. And the ripping the face off scene is beautiful.

I haven't seen Contagium, but not it's not really a proper sequel. It's set like 30 years later and basically there's a hospital that's been built over the site of the Army Base in Day, or something like that. There's these cylinders of some sort of zombie gas that reawaken the undead in the area. It does sound pretty lame.

I actually thought there were only 3 Return of the Living Dead movies, i was not aware there were 5 parts.

Yeah there are now 5 parts. 4 and 5 were released by Sci-Fi in October. And even for Sci-Fi movies, they were actually supposta be pretty gory and funny. The average reader ratings for both movies on IMDb were somewhere between 7 and 8.

Last time I checked, Contagium had like....a 1.6 I think?

I haven't seen the DC of Land yet, but I think the normal version is the 2nd goriest movie I've seen. And I still doubt that the DC is gorier than Dead Alive. You can't say that the lawnmower seen isn't like the bloodiest, goriest thing you've ever seen in a movie. Plus most other parts were extremely gory as well.

What I sometimes do is go on IMDb and just do a big search on zombie movies to find some a might wanna buy/rent. You'll literally get hundreds of movies. I found a lot of really interesting sounding ones last time a searched, like Junk. Just type in "dead" or "zombies" or something along those lines.

No doubt man, Dead Alive is extremely awesome in it's goriness.
You should try the DC of Land though, seriously, it has about 25 minutes of new footage and nearly all of it is zombies ripping people to sheds. They actually had to cut out a ton of the gore and shorten scenes in the movie as well as put CG zombies walking infront of other eating zombies so that they would be allowed to release it in theatres under an R rating! Crazy.

I quickly read some reviews of the new parts, they do sound pretty good haha. I'll have to keep an eye out for them.

What can you tell me about Junk? I hope it's not like Undead. *groans*

I just checked the IMDb page of Junk. I somehow remember the reviews for it being a lot better...oh well...maybe that was something else. Anyways, it's a japanese movie that was apparently horribly edited for the American version. A lot of people on the forum say that they have it at their local Blockbuster, but I never saw it there. My Blockbuster doesn't even have Return of the Living Dead....lame. So I guess Junk isn't supposta be that good; I still wouldn't mind checking it out though.

I also found out something interesting. There was a movie made called Zombie 3 (not Zombi 3) that was filmed on the exact same set as Fulci's Zombi 2; it also had 2 of the actors from Zombi 2 in the movie.

And did you actually see Undead....after I warned you to stay away from it?

Yeah well i had to check it out for myself. It did have zombies in it somewhat at least.
Fortunately i was a little.. under the influence while i watched it so i got a decent laugh out of it at least.

Zombi is also known as Zombie in alot of places so Zombie 3 could just be Zombi 3. It would seem likely if it has some of the same actors and locations. lol

No it isn't. Check the IMDb page. It has a completely different director. In the trivia section, it says that it had the same set as Zombi 2.

To clear up the confusion with the Zombi movies:

The original Dawn of the Dead was known as Zombi (or Zombie) in Italy; it was also extremely popualr. Fulci wanted to cash in on it, so he decided to make an unofficial sequel to it, which is known as Zombi 2 (or Zombie Flesheaters in the UK). He continued the series as it's own thing. I think there's maybe 5 movies. So if you ever go to a store and see Zombi and Zombi 2, don't buy both....they are the EXACT same thing.

The series called Zombie is a separate thing, though. Although I believe it is still made by an Italian director, so I can see where the similarities can come in.

If anything that creates more confusion really.
I did know Dawn was known as Zombi though. Romero actually discusses that in the Land of the Dead specials.

Creates more confusion? How so? I didn't have any clue why the movie Zombi 2 was also the first one, and why the series went under so many different names. I once found a huge thread on IMDb explaining it and it cleared it right up. I guess it is a little confusing though.

Dawn of the Dead = Zombie
Zombi 2 is unofficial sequel to Dawn, aka Zombie
Zombi = Zombi 2
Zombi 2 = Zombie Flesheaters
Zombi 3 = Zombie Flesheaters 2 (and so on)
Zombi 2 is called Zombie Flesheaters 1 in the UK because it is a stand-alone movie there, hence why Zombi 3 = ZF2

Easier to get it now?

I was searching more and came across a zombie film that's supposta be good. It's called Flesheater or Zombie Nosh. The rating isn't great, but a bunch of the reviews says it was a very good movie for a cheesy 80's zombie flick, with tons of gore and a very creepy atmosphere. I really have to check this one out.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109809/

Oh no confusion from me dude, i already know. Although it still seems totally fishy that Zombie 3 has nothing to do with Zombi, i'm gonna have to watch it and see if maybe the story matches up at all.
I ment it's just so confusing as to why they went with all these identical titles.

I have seen Zombie Nosh, actually i saw it under the name Revenge of the Living Dead. It's actually pretty good, i definately recommend it. If you've seen the original Night of the Living Dead, then it might interest you to know the first zombie in the movie, the one that kills Johnny, produced this one.
They're all interconnected in some way.

I tried watching Return 4 & 5. I thought they sucked. I watched the first 30 mins and could not take it. They couldn't pull off what 1 & 2 did.

Thanks for letting me know. That drops my hopes slightly. I'll still keep an eye out for them though, if they're on Space sometime soon again or something.

Zombi 3 and Zombie 3 are two totally different movies. Like I said, the series' are not the same. Zombi 3 is a continuation of Fulci's series, while the other Zombie series is directed by different people for each movie or something.

I definately have to see Zombie Nosh. I forgot to mention that it was also called Revenge of the Living Dead before. I wonder which title it will go under here?

Have you ever seen House by the Cemetery? It's another Fulci movie, but if you haven't seen in, then keep away from it. It's hilariously bad.

Okay okay i'll take your word for it.

No i haven't seen House by the Cemetary, but i have heard that exact same phrase muttered after it each time i discuss zomb movies, so yeah, i've learned to stay away from that one.

Undead was so crappy, I found it hilarious.

haha yeah, as i said, i got a decent laugh out of it at least.

I guess you already mentioned Dead Alive, but another one of my favorites is Versus. KICK ASS.

Aww man i totally forgot about Versus!! Or Down to Hell, i think it's also called. I saw it once like 3 years ago and loved it.

my thread was ignored do I'll post it here

I have not seen it yet but I have high hopes for this film

check the link ther is a trailer out, I cant see it I'm getting erros on my real player.

Sorry dude never saw your thread.

Attack of the Chicken Zombies?? Okay then.

I love that movie!
The funniest part has got to be the Queen fight. Classic moment!


What other classic moments in Zombie movies? Mmm... in Night of the Living Dead it's the "They're going to get you Barbara" line and when Barbara sees her brother at the end just before she gets killed

Now, I know that it's not a Zombie movie, but I find that Evil Dead is quite gory

Gory!? There ain't much gore in Evil Dead really. Not that i remember. Sure it had it's moments.

hehe i love what Shaun of the Dead took from the Romero movies. I always have to point out that when Ed yells down the phone to Shauns Mum 'We're coming to get you Barbara!' it's actually a nod to Night of the Living Dead.

What are you talking about? The first Evil Dead was really gory. The second one, still gory, but not as much. And I guess the first movie could be considered a zombie movie...kinda.

Bah, i never consider them zombie movies.
Demonic posession people, it's different.

I'm sorry, i really don't remember all that much gore in any of the Evil Dead movies. I mean of course there was some. Maybe i'm just getting used to new-gore so old-gore doesn't have it's effect anymore.

Yup

And I remember that Simon Pegg showed his movie to Romero and he didn't get the nod to his movie

hahah yeah.
There's this awesome special in the Land of the Dead DVD with follows Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright to Toronto where they meet George Romero and film their cameos in the movie. It's really funny.

Free cookie to the first person who tells me where Simon and Edgar appear in Land of the Dead.

They appear as the phone booth zombies in the carnivale/ bar scene.

Spot on. I didn't notice them the first time i played through, the makup is really extensive. It's really funny in the featurette about it, they kept taunting the girl getting her photo taken with them so she kept laughing.

Well, IMDb is good for many things
I think I should buy the DVD...

I so knew you looked it up.
I got lucky, i got the DVD new for 15 bucks. Canadian. Normally it's 30.
It's an awesome DVD, there's so much extra stuff. I love it. My current third favourite Zomb.

Haha yeah, the Aliens... 'I'm comfortable with who I am'

Is there an alternate ending? Because the original one sucked so bad. Other than that, the movie totally rocked.

I never really thought of my favorite zombie movies list...

I guess they would be

Shaun of the Dead
Dawn of the Dead Remake
Land of the Dead
and uh...I don't even know from there. There's so many old, cheesy zombie movies running through my head I can't even choose one to continue the list.

As zombie movies, Resident Evil (both of them) suck, but as action movie they're excellent, so I couldn't really put those on my list. I mean yeah, I enjoy the zombie fighting parts in the movies, but they suck compared to REAL zombie movies.

Yeah i know, i always hesitate in putting them into my zomb collection, but they are technically movies with zombies in them. the first one is more of a zombie movie than the second, but that's probably because in the second you never actually get a clear shot of a zombie.

My favourites list, at least the top three, is the same.
Lately i can't stop watching Dawn, it's so damned good. I love the way it's filmed. I think if Stanley Kubrick was ever to do a zomb movie, it would be alot like Dawn.

Yeah it sucks. The only parts in Apoc where zombies are shown up close is when the cameramen do all that up-close shaky crap. But in the action scenes where it's mostly gun usage, they don't seem to have any camera "problems" when the zombies are far away; same with the lickers and dogs, except they don't have problems showing them at all. it's a shame though, because the zombies in Apoc (what little you can see of them) are actually pretty cool looking. Like in the cemetery scene you can see some of them coming up from the ground, and they look pretty sick. Since Anderson is directing the 3rd movie, I'm hoping that they can keep the old rotten zombie look because RE1 had great camera work. The zombies in RE1 were okay I guess, but I prefer rotting corpses instead of freshly deceased ones.



I also like the way it's filmed. It just has a really unique atmosphere to it. I'm hoping that the Day Remake has the same feeling, although that's a lot to hope for.

I haven't heard anything about the remake of Day of the Dead, sadly. It is the only one of Romeros trilogy now that doesn't have a remake, so it definately is due.
Is it a definate that it's being done?

I wonder if it'll be a sequel to the remake of Dawn, or if it'll be a stand-alone movie like Dawn remake was.

It has it's own IMDb page. It is a stand alone movie, and it is greenlighted, but that's all. There's no script (as far as I'm aware) and no cast list yet. The only thing I know about it is that the rights to it are owned by the same people who did Contagium, which seems to have pissed a lot of people off, but I doubt that will ruin it at all. It's set director is Steve Minor, who has directed movies like Lake Placid and Halloween H20. So uh...I dunno. H20 was okay. Lake Placid was very underrated, I liked the directing in that movie very much.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489018/

As for a direct Dawn sequel, there have been rumors of one, but I'm not exactly sure if it's official yet.

Thanks for the info.
I wonder how they'll make a stand-alone of Day of the Dead though. I mean, they'll have a hard time throwing an outbreak in there. They'll have to just start with the world already overrun by zombies.
I guess what they'll probably do is just rely on Romeros storyline and work it into that universe rather than making a complete remake like Dawn.

Yeah they're basically using Romero's screenplay and that's it. I suppose the outbreak will be in the movie the same it was in the Dawn remake.

Speaking of zombie movies....

Last night I saw the WORST and I do mean WORST zombie movie ever! My daughter and I read the description of the movie and thought, "interesting, let's watch it"....BIG mistake!! The sysnopsis read something like "unsuspecting musician joins boy band who all turn out to secretly be zombies". I think it was called Ring of Darkness and it looked like a made for tv movie. It starred (get this) Adrianne Barbeau!! It had so much filler of these 18 year old pretty boy guys posing for the camera and pouting that I really felt ill and the zombie make-up consisted of green face paint!

Avoid this movie at all costs!

On a different note, I watched the Simon Pegg special feature on the Land of the Dead dvd before I watched the movie. I never would have recognized Simon otherwise--the make-up was so extreme!

I'd have to say Evil Dead is pretty gory for it's time....remember when the pencil goes in the ankle? Ick. Most of the gore does suspiciously look like colored oatmeal though....

Day of the dead was the last great zombie movie,Land of the dead wasn't bad but could have been better.But if you ask me the horror genre is dead completely.

Thanks for the heads up coldethyl, i'll be sure to bypass that one.
Sounds just as good as 'The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies.'

I do agree BazookaTooth, these days i wouldn't consider what Hollywood calls a 'Horror' movie to actually be a horror movie. Land of the Dead i would definately consider much more of an action movie than a horror. Same with Dawn of the Dead remake, although it did have some frightening aspects in it. Loosely.
The zombie movies of old definately have a charm that cannot be matched by todays standards.

Does best evil announcer voiceover:

...Satan moves to a 2 bedroom condo in the suburbs...

...and stops at a Starbucks every morning on his morning commute to hell...

Sorry...don't mind me...lots of coffee this morning...

A rule of thumb Dave and I usually follow is that if there's a new zombie film out, we'll see it! it makes for a good cuddle film and its hysterical because im not overly creeped out while watching it in the movies, but see a week later...i stay awake in bed at 1am going if zombies eat my family, i can slide down the back of my bed and go behind my desk - with my phone on silent and my water bottle...and a blanket to cover myself in so they dont find me...even though they'd smell me anyway and eat me in my blankie...



...anyway, theres a film that came out about 2 years ago, it was an aussie fim and completely crud but its an entertainly gory film...i think its called Blood, but i couldnt tell you for sure to be honest!

I love Dawn of the Dead, and i havent seen the original, although i really should try and see it...but i have the Dawn remake dvd, Land of the Dead (which just quietly i cacked myself watching...especially the start with the tambourine playing zombie, and the boyfriend-girlfriend zombie couple...) and Shaun of the dead..that film i swear i could watch 50 billion times over and i still go into hysterics, i love it!

The resident evil movies are also pretty dang cool! I own Resident Evil Apocalypse, and i neeeeeed to buy the first one because i love that one just as much as the first one!!

Burnside, have you ever heard of UrbanDead? IT's an awesome online zombie game, you play as any number of things, like, a civilian, a medic, a lab tech etc... and yeah...if you dont know what it is, check it out, its pretty awesome (even though the other day i fell asleep and i woke up as a zombie

hahaha. maybe you should make a zombie contingency plan, you know, just incase. Something other than being eaten in your blankie anyway.



Can't say i've heard of it. Would you recommend it?



The remake of Dawn, as well as Land are definately up there in my top favourite zombie movies. As well as Shaun, which IS my top favourite zomb movie. I like them all for different reasons. Land is interesting, gory, funny and action packed. Dawn is pretty damn freaky even for me, and Shaun is just fantastic. It has everything, humour, realism, scares, sadness, action, etc. So good!



Yeah the RE movies are alright. I'm a massive Resident Evil fan in terms of the games, i have 12 of the 15 of them. But the movies did a great injustice to the games and i've always been a little bitter about that. The first one is really good and close to the game in terms of atmosphere, cameras etc, as well as it's definately a zombie movie. The second is excellent for eye candy, but i can't bring myself to see it AS Resident Evil, it's so badly done. Not to mention you barely even SEE a zombie in it, thanks to the crazy shaky camera.



Once you get to level 34 and have EVERY zombie and human skill you can get, it gets a little boring. But yes, i've played it since it went online and it was alright at first but now it's just so slow and neglected i can't bring myself to log in. Occasionally i check to see if there's any new skills to buy, but that's it.

Urban Dead is kinda lame. Outbreak was so much better until the admin kept reseting it and making it annoying.


Okay, I totally forgot to mention something yesterday, and I can't believe it slipped my mind.

There's this new indie zombie film that's being made (actually, it's been done for months) called Automaton Transfusion. The director used a grittier type of film, and it's directed just like a classic old zombie movie, with fast zombies like in the Dawn remake, except in this movie, they actually explain how they can run as fast as they do. On IMDb, a bunch of people who were zombie extras in the movie posted, saying how this movie is going to become an instant cult classic. Everyone says it's an amazing movie--they only watched rough cuts too, which means it must be even better. They also said this is one of the goriest films ever made, which is good. It was supposed to be released back in October in the theaters, but never was. The new news is that it has a Hollywood premiere next month. I'm hoping that's true, because the way this movie sounds, I'm going to love it. It might be the best zombie movie ever made. I saw old teaser trailers back in August I believe. They were only like 30 seconds long, but they looked awesome. I'm not sure where there are trailers anymore, because new ones were made and added to sites and then taken off, plus I think the official website dissapeared a few months back.

Here's the IMDb page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469683/

Not much on it. The forums is the only thing worth looking at.
I also heard that the director plans on making it a trilogy. I think it would be so awesome to go and be a zombie extra in the next movie. If given the opprtunity, I would definately do it.

Blood will run, what an awesome tagline haha. You've totally psyched me for it man, any more stuff on the net you can find about it?