The latest expedition to search for the “dinosaurlike” cryptids known by African natives as mokele-mbembe has departed. Milt Marcy, Peter Beach and Rob Mullin left Portland, Oregon for Cameroon on January 10, 2005. They will be teaming up with Pierre Sima to conduct the next phase of the cryptozoological research on the Congo/Cameroon border.
The Milt Marcy Expedition is the fourth such trek to Africa, with the three before this one being lead by William Gibbons. Marcy is an insurance broker (Milt Marcy Insurance) in Portland, Oregon, who has funded the last three expeditions, and will be participating in this one himself as Gibbons cannot go.
The four expeditions have been greatly assisted by the cryptozoology-friendly government of Cameroon (they received all their official documents quickly). Furthermore, Pierre Sima has collected several new reports of Mokele-mbembe activity in the river system which borders the Congo Republic. Ed Holdroyd, an atmospheric scientist, has also helped the expedition by providing some superb high resolution satellite photographs of an undisclosed area of the river system where Gibbons, Marcy, and all believe the animals are currently active.
Through a combination of field expeditions, recons by
Pierre Sima, native reports and the satellite images, the Milt Marcy Expedition feel that they can now track the migration patterns of mokele-mbembe much more effectively.
From http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mm-expedition/
I have been reading up on this creature for about a year, very intiguing, I am hoping they might find some other cryptids on the way like a Kongomato.
The Congo has only been 1% explored. From expedition diaries I have read, no wonder, what a harsh land! If a cryptid is to survive unnoticed, I reckon this is the place. I will be hanging on the edge of my seat for any scrap of info that comes from this expedtition.
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it's about time they made a current expedition into the congos. I was wondering why they didn't do something like this sooner.
QUOTE(CryptoRay @ Jan 19 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]1028514[/snapback]
it's about time they made a current expedition into the congos. I was wondering why they didn't do something like this sooner.
ohh i hope they can find something, it would be one of the biggest scientific discoveries ever!
This is not the first expedition to find this supposed Sauropod. I don't have the links, but a quick Google should bring them up.
There is even a supposed picture of a footprint, not sure of it's validity, I am doing a search right now on to see if I have it still. If I still have it, I will return and post it.
There is even a supposed picture of a footprint, not sure of it's validity, I am doing a search right now on to see if I have it still. If I still have it, I will return and post it.
Ahhh, there it is, anyone know if this pic is allegedly real?
There is also another picture of the beast, but it more likely a swimming elephant
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jan 19 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]1028609[/snapback]
Ahhh, there it is, anyone know if this pic is allegedly real?
looks kinda like when they found footprints in loch ness, similar shape, but then it was a large pacaderms foot used as an umbrella holder...not saying that makes this fake mind you...it could be real. would be neat if it were.
I do hope they find something down there... really about time they try to find that "beast"! I say it's a much better chance for mokele mbembe to exist then Nessie...
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Peter Beach and Rob Mullin left Portland, Oregon for Cameroon on January 10, 2005.
2005 or 2006?
The foot print pic looks very fake, the edges are way too perfect, it looks like it's made on soft ground with a heavy metal object shaped like a dinosaur foot.
But then, I would love to see them actually find something there.
I was watching a show one time where two guys were looking for Mokele-Mbembe. They didn't find anything but one of they guys had a book with pictures of lots animals found in Africa. They came to a picture of a Rhino and all the natives agreed it was Mokele-Mbembe. 
QUOTE(Bone_Collector @ Jan 20 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1029116[/snapback]
2005 or 2006?
The foot print pic looks very fake, the edges are way too perfect, it looks like it's made on soft ground with a heavy metal object shaped like a dinosaur foot.
But then, I would love to see them actually find something there.Probably best check the source (Cryptomundo.com)
Good pickup, Loren is displaying news as it becomes available. I'd say a typo.
I think its a great idea that cryptozoology is still so active. I have two concerns about this expedition and perhaps a few statements to issue about the alledged footprint.
A. this would no doubt mean that theyre would have to be at least a breeding pair living in this dense forest for it to survive this long.
B. the natives may no doubt have proof of the existance, perhaps salvaging remains such as bones from dead specimens
Considering the footprint the print looks to clean and perfect, unless it would be fresh it would be covered in varieties of leaves, excretion and other related objects, wouldnt it be morphed in someway due to the immense pressure of the beast.
A. this would no doubt mean that theyre would have to be at least a breeding pair living in this dense forest for it to survive this long.
B. the natives may no doubt have proof of the existance, perhaps salvaging remains such as bones from dead specimens
Considering the footprint the print looks to clean and perfect, unless it would be fresh it would be covered in varieties of leaves, excretion and other related objects, wouldnt it be morphed in someway due to the immense pressure of the beast.
I hope they will find something, I know it is unlikely, but I hold out hope.
One good read I have spotted about the alleged beastie
Cryptozoology Link.
This is a fairly unbiased view, it mentions the part frogfish brought up,
but then the same site sports this
and
This refrence is sounding as though refering to something more impressive than a Rhino, but who knows.
The expedition information is frustratingly slow, although one would expect as much, I doubt the Congo has much in the way of wireless net.
Here is another link which appears to be a condensed version of the first
Link
This one gives a brief mention of the Mansi photo of Champ and appears to have a slight creationist slant, however, it looks to be a plagerised version of the first link, which is a good read.
One good read I have spotted about the alleged beastie
Cryptozoology Link.
This is a fairly unbiased view, it mentions the part frogfish brought up,
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When recently repeated, this experiment bore different results. The BaAka tribes recognized the gorillas, calling them Ebobo. They easily recognized the elephant, calling it Doli. Then, they were showed a picture of a rhinoceros, and replied just as before, "Mokele-mbembe!" Indeed, a rhinoceros seems a likely candidate for a misinterpretation of this mysterious creature. Some reports point toward Mokele-mbembe having a horn, being like a hippopotamus, yet bigger. This truly seems like a fitting description of a rhinoceros.
but then the same site sports this
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The story of Mokele-mbembe spread when increasing amounts of trustworthy sources began reporting tales no stranger than legends. African hunter Nicolas Mondongo later recalled: "Without warning, the waters parted and a huge animal surfaced-beginning with an extremely long, slender neck and well-defined head, followed by a very bulky, elephantine body rising up on four massive legs, and finally revealing lengthy, tapering tail."
and
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Rory Nugent's luck was no better. After four months of searching for the beast in Lake Tele, he returned empty handed, but not without his own mild encounter. He claims to have seen a shape like that of a thin neck. He naturally wanted to get closer, but his pygmy guides held him back. "The god can approach man," they told him. "But man never approaches the god."
This refrence is sounding as though refering to something more impressive than a Rhino, but who knows.
The expedition information is frustratingly slow, although one would expect as much, I doubt the Congo has much in the way of wireless net.
Here is another link which appears to be a condensed version of the first
Link
This one gives a brief mention of the Mansi photo of Champ and appears to have a slight creationist slant, however, it looks to be a plagerised version of the first link, which is a good read.
do u have any updates about the expodition in africa?
Check the thread dedicated to it. 
Dude, I wanna go on an expedition like that someday! Where do I sign up?
Considering the last link that was post, thanks to psyche101 it brings to attention the cross referancing between a Rhino and a Hippo.
Taking theses into account the "neck" seems to be the most popular of known descripitions.
If indeed it is a rhino (or more than one) you dont think that left to their devices for so long they havent adapted to life in the dense rainforests like the giraffes on the open plains and grew long necks to reach their food?
Taking theses into account the "neck" seems to be the most popular of known descripitions.
If indeed it is a rhino (or more than one) you dont think that left to their devices for so long they havent adapted to life in the dense rainforests like the giraffes on the open plains and grew long necks to reach their food?
QUOTE(Unclassified Weapon @ Jan 24 2006, 05:09 PM) [snapback]1034203[/snapback]
Considering the last link that was post, thanks to psyche101 it brings to attention the cross referancing between a Rhino and a Hippo.
Taking theses into account the "neck" seems to be the most popular of known descripitions.
If indeed it is a rhino (or more than one) you dont think that left to their devices for so long they havent adapted to life in the dense rainforests like the giraffes on the open plains and grew long necks to reach their food?
hey i know the pygmies know what they saw and it was most likely a dinosaur and NOT A MISIDENTIFICATION
QUOTE(makaya325 @ Jan 24 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]1034210[/snapback]
hey i know the pygmies know what they saw and it was most likely a dinosaur and NOT A MISIDENTIFICATION
Riiiight...
QUOTE(Sofia Alexandra @ Jan 24 2006, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1034172[/snapback]
Check the thread dedicated to it.
Hey guys!! New to UM.enjoy reading it! Congo is such a vast, unexplored area, anything and everything is possible.
but likely just a rhino 
Even if they dont find the so called "mysterious beast", if they could get some vital data or some samples of any new species whether they are ants to macrofauna to new species of flowering plants.
Either way i think they should be able to come back with something new.
Remember if they are exploring the congo that hasn't been disturbed by human urbanisation, the chances of finding new species is pretty good.
Good luck to them
Either way i think they should be able to come back with something new.
Remember if they are exploring the congo that hasn't been disturbed by human urbanisation, the chances of finding new species is pretty good.
Good luck to them
QUOTE(Unclassified Weapon @ Jan 24 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]1034203[/snapback]
Considering the last link that was post, thanks to psyche101 it brings to attention the cross referancing between a Rhino and a Hippo.
Taking theses into account the "neck" seems to be the most popular of known descripitions.
If indeed it is a rhino (or more than one) you dont think that left to their devices for so long they havent adapted to life in the dense rainforests like the giraffes on the open plains and grew long necks to reach their food?
Exactly what I was thinking. Most likely not as long as the giraffes but I could definatly see them adapting to life in the congo. Possibly longer legs and an out streched neck.
QUOTE(420_toker @ Jan 25 2006, 08:28 AM) [snapback]1034478[/snapback]
Exactly what I was thinking. Most likely not as long as the giraffes but I could definatly see them adapting to life in the congo. Possibly longer legs and an out streched neck.
I was pondering a similar train of though myself last night, having looked at the carving I figured, perhaps it is a Rhino adapted to the water, and has a tail suitable to propell it through the water at greater speeds. The creature is fond of an aquatic environment according to all reports.
QUOTE(Sofia Alexandra @ Jan 25 2006, 02:57 AM) [snapback]1034190[/snapback]
Dude, I wanna go on an expedition like that someday! Where do I sign up?
Nah you don't oppresive heat, malaria, footworms, tsetse flies all for what is probably a Rhino. Maybe an exotic one.
Fotoworms and tsetse flies are just dead set gross. Maggots in your skin. Yuk.
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Fotoworms and tsetse flies are just dead set gross. Maggots in your skin. Yuk.
That's not all! Parasites: Tapeworms, maggots, heart worms, etc. Sleeping Sickness, Ebola Virus...you don't want to catch those
Sounds like tribes all over the congo are seein' rhinos http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/emela/emela.htm
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Sounds like tribes all over the congo are seein' rhinos http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/emela/emela.htm
Yes, they believe there may be up to three RhinoDino's in the Cono. That pic looks alot like one of the native carvings.
That one is supposed to be Emela-ntouka or 'Killer of Elephants.'
Just a wee bit more to add - some on the Ngoubu.
Another RhinoDino !!
Absolutely hanging for more info from the Cameroon....I wonder how things are going there.
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In Mali the Bambara people sculpture iron figurines of a three-horned creature with long points coming off the neck much like the ceratopsian dinosaur Chasmosaurus. In Cameroon the Baka pygmies identify pictures of a Triceratops with an animal they call the Ngoubu. They report it being big as an ox, possessing a neck frill, and sporting from one to four horns. Apparently the mature male has the largest frill. Perhaps this is the same species as the Emela-ntouka in the Congo and the observers there merely saw the single-horned variety or younger creatures. The Ngoubu is said to inhabit the savannas along the Boumba and Sanga river where it is known to fight with elephants.
Another RhinoDino !!
Absolutely hanging for more info from the Cameroon....I wonder how things are going there.
QUOTE(Sofia Alexandra @ Jan 25 2006, 02:57 AM) [snapback]1034190[/snapback]
Dude, I wanna go on an expedition like that someday! Where do I sign up?
Here you go
Fund Your Own Expedition
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jan 24 2006, 08:27 PM) [snapback]1034897[/snapback]
Yes, they believe there may be up to three RhinoDino's in the Cono. That pic looks alot like one of the native carvings.
That one is supposed to be Emela-ntouka or 'Killer of Elephants.'
Dude that things bad ass. I'm not sure why a rhino's tail would need to change so much tho. Aren't their tails good for swimming?
QUOTE(420_toker @ Jan 25 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1035559[/snapback]
Dude that things bad ass. I'm not sure why a rhino's tail would need to change so much tho. Aren't their tails good for swimming?
Here's a rhino tail. IMO quite useless for propelling a creature as large as a rhino through the water.
Pic source
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jan 24 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1034503[/snapback]
"Rhino adapted to the water, and has a tail suitable to propell it through the water at greater speeds."
Not according to psyche101
QUOTE(420_toker @ Jan 26 2006, 09:35 AM) [snapback]1035992[/snapback]
Not according to psyche101
Just a thought.
Also you need to think about other factors. The Rhinos skin is incredibly tough and resistant. There is mountains of mud and water to keep it hydrated and the fact that its overall size may be that of a rhino could conclude the fact that these thing havent leveled most of the forest.
QUOTE(Unclassified Weapon @ Jan 26 2006, 06:59 AM) [snapback]1036765[/snapback]
Also you need to think about other factors. The Rhinos skin is incredibly tough and resistant. There is mountains of mud and water to keep it hydrated and the fact that its overall size may be that of a rhino could conclude the fact that these thing havent leveled most of the forest.
Sorry, didn't understand that at all
Hope they find something!
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More news from the Milt Marcy Expedition, now in Africa, in pursuit of the Mokele-mbembe.
Word via Bill Gibbons is that Milt Marcy just emailed from Cameroon. The expedition travelled far up the Dja River and spoke to witnesses that had observed a Mokele-mbembe only two days before. Paul Ohlin, who replaced Pastor Gene Thomas in 1992 in the northern Congo, saw a Mokele-mbembe only three weeks ago
Word via Bill Gibbons is that Milt Marcy just emailed from Cameroon. The expedition travelled far up the Dja River and spoke to witnesses that had observed a Mokele-mbembe only two days before. Paul Ohlin, who replaced Pastor Gene Thomas in 1992 in the northern Congo, saw a Mokele-mbembe only three weeks ago
Source
Hope it doesn't turn out to be a native's version of a Rhino or a Hippo.
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Paul Ohlin, who replaced Pastor Gene Thomas in 1992 in the northern Congo, saw a Mokele-mbembe only three weeks ago
One report - not a naitive
It is possible, we have to keep an open mind here...........
I hope there's something there! atleast some twisted rhino, just to shut the sketptics up! believing we have found and discovered everything already!
Well it's over for now, and they didn't come up with much http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mm-marcy-update/
Meh
Disapointing to say the least. First I had heard it was a prelim-mission.
Not even a picture of a Rhino, thought that arming the missionaries and the naitives with disposable cameras or the like would have been a good idea.
Now we have to wait till 2007 for the picture of the aquatic Rhino
Small write up on the beastie, mentions the expidition, mostly about Loren's up and coming new Mokele book
Cryptomundo Write Up
Bah.
Disapointing to say the least. First I had heard it was a prelim-mission.
Not even a picture of a Rhino, thought that arming the missionaries and the naitives with disposable cameras or the like would have been a good idea.
Now we have to wait till 2007 for the picture of the aquatic Rhino
Small write up on the beastie, mentions the expidition, mostly about Loren's up and coming new Mokele book
Cryptomundo Write Up
Bah.
My sister-in-law is still in high school and had one of these guys as her teacher at her christian school just a couple of months ago. She told me about it and said that he expected not to find a dinosaur like creature, but actually some kind of giant snake. Giant boas or some such.
Still pretty cool to go off looking for the things. In my opinion this is one of the more likely cryptids out there.
Still pretty cool to go off looking for the things. In my opinion this is one of the more likely cryptids out there.
What the heck happened to the Marcy Milt 2007 January expidition?????? 2006 was supposed to be a pre-lim scout mission.
WHO IS FIBBING - MARCY OR LOREN COLEMAN COME FORWARD PLEASE AND EXPLAIN.
Many fans waited for this event and are still waiting. What happened??????
Anyone have any info on this???? In my humble opinion, one of the more nailbiting episodes in this wonderful world of Cryptozoology. A legend that can be determined with one lucky expidition.
Rhino or dino..........stay tuned.............................
WHO IS FIBBING - MARCY OR LOREN COLEMAN COME FORWARD PLEASE AND EXPLAIN.
Many fans waited for this event and are still waiting. What happened??????
Anyone have any info on this???? In my humble opinion, one of the more nailbiting episodes in this wonderful world of Cryptozoology. A legend that can be determined with one lucky expidition.
Rhino or dino..........stay tuned.............................
I wouldn't count on it happening. From what I heard, second hand, the high school teacher left his job and has gone off somewhere else. Perhaps they are prepping for some more travel, but my guess is that they have gone back to being wage-slaves.
QUOTE(420_toker @ Jan 20 2006, 08:29 PM) [snapback]1029555[/snapback]
..........and all the natives agreed it was Mokele-Mbembe.
Listen you're not allowed to call them 'natives' anymore. It's considered most insulting...
re this creature, I'm off to read more...
What's the current info on this expedition? I'm dying to know.
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What's the current info on this expedition? I'm dying to know.
That is why I revived the thread. I don't know if the 2007 expedition even went ahed. I have been waiting 12 months for this now - nothing.
This is why I ask, Marcy, Loren what the heck is going on?
Hoping someone somewhere has heard somethig.
no new news means they didnt find anything at all, so they felt its better to just keep quiet about it.
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