Another old photo, this ghost was photographed inside Newby Church, N Yorkshire, in the early 1960s, by Revd KF Lord. He saw nothing at the time.

I've seen this one before, I don't think its a ghost. But I think its what a ghost photo should look like.

I like it.

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             I know it's an old photo,  but the ghost looks just like the bad guy from the movie,  "Scream".  Otherwise,  it would be (a little) more convincing.   :sd

dude i really think it is a ghost, cuz ive seen this photo over and over and there is more evidence to say it is a ghost than an alternative excuse. when it was originally taken wasn't it up side down or something? they reckon its a monk (a very distressed on at that)

It was said that it was a monk, but it looks like it has a cloth over its head, with the eye holes cut out, and then a hood up.  (If you notice, the apparition has folds in the face area).

This photo was in a book about ghosts and hauntings I read a few years ago. I think (but I'm not entirely sure) that the book said it was a fake. If only I wasn't so disorganised I would look for it!  :sm

But if it were real... Would the ghost be annoyed that they sell masks like his face in joke shops!  :sd He might even sue the makers of Scream....

I think this photograph looks a bit too good to be true. The ghost looks a bit too much like something out of a horror movie, but if it is real, it's one hell of a picture.

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I was thinking the same thing SaRuMaN

 What I find rather distressing is the visage of an agonizingly tortured soul in a church of all places. What's up with that? and just what does it say for the supposed blessed sanctity of the dwelling? I could see this 'spirit' haunting a graveyard, dilapidated building or even the bottom of an empty wine casket maybe, but a church? Possibly it is a sworn atheist who died whilst cleaning the stained glass windows, and his 'hell' is to spend eternity within an environment he disavowed. That would certainly be poetic justice, wouldn't it?  :o

Magikman  :sg

[blue]I read in a book on poltergeists that the vast majority of hauntings occur in supposedly religious buildings: rectories, presbytries and churches (NB Borley Rectory).

BOO

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I used to hate looking at this photo, just for the initial shock value it had.  :s4

But it does look fake I must admit!  :sd

I think it entirely depends on your own perception of a ghost - most people seem to think they are shadowy beings (a perfect example being the photo), headless, limbless,translucent etc etc. They all seem to fit the stereo type.  The same goes for aliens - they all look the same - distorted heads, great big eyes etc.

Whilst I know nothing about aliens (I neither disbelieve nor believe), I really don't believe in the "classic" ghost.  I have seen and experienced many things, but whether they were ghosts or not, I really don't know.  One in particular, was as solid and as alive as we are, but simply vanished (and no, I don't do drugs!).

I sometimes wonder if we appear as ghosts to another life in another dimension.......................? :s09

If the ghost sees you, he/she sees you like you see them.  :su

:shrebecca

With respect, Rebecca, that's not quite what I meant.

Just suppose that other beings/humans if you like, exist on another dimension. I wonder if we can appear to them.
Did you know that you don't necessarily have to be dead to be classed as a "ghost"?
Doppleganger - the "spitting" image of you can appear - whether this is a self projection or not is up for debate.
Poltergeists never appear, they can create havoc but you'll never see them (they are "supposed" to be the energy of pent up rage and frustration from adolescents, in particular girls.  Why girls, I don't know).  I know when we're adolescents our hormones are "jigging" around and most adults are either stupid or so old or both but ...................causing poltergeist problems, I don't know.
As a teenager, I used to play the Ouija board frequently and as an adult, I would say "Don't mess with it, because it's more powerful than we are.  It won't get hurt but, it can hurt".
End of "sermon" ;D

[blue]Here's a thread from this forum on doppelgangers:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=generaldiscuss;action=display;num=1002373795;start=6

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Thanks for the info Loon Boy
What about when you meet your own Doppelganger?
Some theories are a DG is infact an astral projection, some theories say that a DG the soul of a person and some theories that anything astral is connected with the soul................. ??? ??? :s09

What's the difference between a ghost, spirit, phantom, spectre, entity? etc.  Sorry, it's not a joke :s09
If there is a difference, it's important to identify each one and their differences.
As we now have euros I can freely say;
My two cents worth or whatever it is they say.

You were talking about astral projection, right?  :-/

:shrebecca

an entity is usually evil or malevolent, there are not really any differences between the others that I know of.  Apart from a spirit is something we all have inside us.

Sort of...............................because from what I know about astral projection, it can't be done spontaneously, i.e. whilst the conscious is conscious ( ???).  Certain dreams can be considered to involve astral projection (a post I am preparing for the near future) and certain OBE's as well. Many years ago, I met a man who claimed to have astrally projected and in order to do so, had to spend many months training to conscious to "lie down".  I think that Buddhists and Yoga masters are able to project astrally (is it a verb?).  I remember reading a book called "The Wisdom of the Ancients" by Lobsang Rampa which was very interesting (if anyone knows where I could get a copy, I would love to hear from them) and went into detail about astral proecting (I think it's maybe not a verb!!).

That's what I sort of meant (sort of) :su

managed to find this, if its any help Felishsa

http://www.opengroup.com/oabooks/089/0899667767.shtml

its a web site from which you can order the book

This has extracts of Rampa's books:

http://galactic2.net/rampa/#english

:-* :-* :-* Althalus

Here we always give 3 kisses - how many kisses you give depends on the region.

Have a read and see if you enjoy. :-* :-* :-*

(We also kiss when we depart) :st

Alathus

I am "shot to pieces" here.  After the excitement of having found the author of a book, I read at around 11 yrs of age, I have just read that the French consider him to be a fraudster...........................!!!

This is terrible news to a "grown up" 11 yr old, especially as I was going to suggest that people rad what he had to say - O me miserum isall I can utter right now.

If he was a fraudster, then he was damm convincing (being English, I've always doubted the French.  even more so now I live here) and I don't know what to say - gob-smacked comes to mind!
Check it out and see what you have to say ...............please? :s02 :s01 :s4

OK it says that he willingly gave up his body to that of a tibetan monk, that i have never heard of before, apart from in films and stories.  

But that is not to say that it can not actually happen, just because we have not seen it, does not mean it is not there.

All in all i like it, it seems to me Tuesday Lobsang Rampa knows what he is talking about, the afterlife and all that.

The bit on UFO's is a bit hard to swallow, so i belive that the spiritual bits are accurate but the other bits are made up for the money and profit.

It's weird that people consider this photograph to be a fake because of it's resemblance to the'Scream' horror mask. How would they have known what the mask looked back back in the 60's?

I've read countless reports regarding this photograph, and there has been no explainations as to how it could have been faked. I'm sure I've seen the negative for it as well and the figure is on there.

Definate authentic photo.

its called a double negative, or a double exposure photograph. i make them all the time. faked.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE...........

That's the Black Abbot you fools.

Yes, it is real.

I have the books to prove it.

Looks pretty cool, but I think I saw this guy in a comicbook once.....

now this one just gives me the creeps i mena this thing looks like the grimripper so i do believe this one is real becuz i have had alot of experiences w. figurey things

QUOTE (*~*AsHlEy*~* @ Feb 18 2003, 11:37 PM)

i have had alot of experiences w. figurey things

mathematicians?

* - This 'grimripper' fellow you speak of, he wouldn't be related to Freddy Kruger, is he?

This is a great picture, yet it does look like that guy from a movie ive seen. but then he could be a monk, i like monks but this one looks freaky.

nice scream mask

The skull face shape is a little, I dunno, obvious don't you think? It seems a little too hokey to me. But then again....

this one has been around for a while...i like it...i can't prove it wrong, so i believe it.

i think personally the ghost isnt real it looks to much like the killer out of scream , u no it looks like a costume u could buy from a fancy dress shop

QUOTE (Druss @ Mar 27 2002, 12:50 AM)

I've seen this one before, I don't think its a ghost. But I think its what a ghost photo should look like. I like it.

i am a stealthy ninja!

Something about this photo just doesn't sit right with me, I'm gunna have to say that it think it is fake.

Yeah OK!

Does anyone know if it was customary to bury monks with shrouds? If so, why would there be eye-holes in them? If it wasn't for the white shroud I would consider the possibility.

I don't care what you guys think I think that this is a real ghost. I mean it looks so sad ;
I do believe it does look like a monk and some ghosts grab your attention by means of putting themselves on pictures.

Happy Holidays

This is my favourite ghost photgraph of all time, and the one I think is the exception to the rule, that if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

It has actually passed tests by Kodaks labs, and was considered genuine by arch-sceptic Arthur C Clarke.

Personally, I don't think it's a monk, either. More a leper, or a badly-deformed person. Ayone ever see `The Elephant Man'? He wore the same hood. I've also read somewhere that the figure is estimated at 8 to 9 feet tall. Hardly a `standard monk', figure.

Iv seen this picrure many times before and have it saved on my comp for a topic i was gonna post a while back on it,but couldnt upload the file.I read a book called The Afterlife which had the picture in it.It said that the picture had been scanned for possible hoax's and none were found,it seemed to show a real ghost.I cant remeber who the book is written by,but its by two people.

I love the people who say stuff like "looks like the mask in the movie SCREAM, he-he, it can't be real! he-he-he!".

If the pictures that old, and so many of you have seen it sooooo many times, and professionals can't determine it to be a fake... and even if it were a fake, made in the 60's, before most of you even existed, I still have to salute the guy that decided to make a horror movie and researched some old ghost photos from some book somewhere first. If he did use the mentioned pic as a muster for his mask in the movie, then I'm quite sure he is the one going "he-he-he!!!" right now with his fat bank account!

Anyone know how many of those masks sold?

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum having justed joined today. I know the last topic was written nearly nine months ago, but the book you are referring to is: The Afterlife, An Investigation into the Mysteries of Life after Death, by Jenny Randles and Peter Hough. Piatkus Books 1993. ISBN number: ISBN 0749912960, priced £10.99 Paperback or £15.53 Hardback.

Bugsbunny.

It always reminded me of the Grim Reaper. And is it near a funeral casket thing or something?

Haha, that was i was thinking, it looks like the monster from scream lol... but its interesting, it might be true!

For the record, the mask in the movie 'Scream' is based on the painting "Scream" by Edvard Munch. Wes Craven has stated this several times. The design of this character had nothing to do with the photo of The Newby Ghost.

It really looks fake to me....