Do any of ya'll believe in reincarnation? For the past couple of years I have been having vivid dreams of me as a soldier on some battlefield from the 18 or 19th century. It is so real, the sights and sounds, and yes even the smell. Call me crazy, but I truly think I may be a soldier from another time period.

Did'nt you just post a topic about going back in History, and said you would go back to the 19th century because you liked Sherlock Holmes? Well if you were having dreams about fighting on battle fields and you think it may be related to reincarnation, I would have thought that this would be an ideal period in time to go back, and see what was happening?

If the experence is so real shouldent you be able to disquinsh between the 18th or 19th centuries as the clothes an warfare would be vastly diffrent.

i dont beleve you

I believe you. There is lots of evidence for reincarnation. Most cultures other than those in the west believe in reincarnation. It is a subject I am very interested in. I don't have any past life memories myself, although I do have vague recollections of dreaming I was someone else. A woman - I knew in the dream that I was her, but can't remember the details of the dream.

Anyway, if you are interested in reading about this stuff - check out the works of Dr Ian Stevenson and Dr Brian Weiss. Both fascinating.

Try a book called 'Old Souls' by Tom Shroder. It is about the work of Dr Stevenson. He has travelled around the globe investigating and documenting cases of small children who spontaneously start to speak of previous lives, beg to be taken 'home', pine for families from another life and know things that there is no way of them knowing. He has documented more than 2000 cases over 37 years. In many of these cases the individuals they speak of have only died months, days or even hours before the birth of these children. The author Tom Shroder, initially a sceptic, becomes a believer as he travels with Stevenson visiting families from both sides of the story and sees concrete evidence he can not deny.

There is much more to this world than we know, but things that don't fit with mainstream beliefs are often ridiculed and not even looked at. After 37 years Dr Stevenson's work is only now really coming to the mainstream.

In fact, I have read that the bible used to talk about reincarnation until Constantine removed all references to it around 300AD. It was thought that, if people knew there was more than just this one life – they would not spend it serving God, and would be much more difficult to control. I mean – how can it make sense, that this life we have, which is a tiny sliver in the vastness of the history of humanity, would be the basis on which we are judged and condemned or rewarded for all eternity.

Dr Weiss' work is equally as fascinating. He was a traditional psychiatrist who, when trying to treat a patient who showed no improvement over 18 months, tried hypnosis. When instructed to go back to the time of the origin of her symptoms, his patient began recalling ancient lives and times in detail, that she had no knowledge of when she was awake. He has since treated 1000's of patients with past-life regression for irrational phobias and problems.

Maybe you could even look into that, if you were interested - see a hypnotherapist who specialises in past-life regression.

Whoa - sorry about the verbal diarrhoea

I actually do believe in reincarnation. as I've said before, it is my opinion, that it could explain strange phobias, unique interests, talents, etc.

Myself I accept reincarnation as a fact of life this being the result of my training and background.

Any thoughts?

I dont believe in the concept of reincarnation myself. I find another explanation in the form of a phenomenon called genetic memory. I post a link here if you like to take a look. Its not a proven fact as such but just offers an alternative point for you to discuss.

http://www.questinstitute.co.uk/dynamic/resources/memory.pdf

I was brought up to believe that reincarnation was not real. I have been a Christian all my life and I really struggle with this. I feel as though I have lived before. When I see pictures of Egypt, I get the feeling that I have been there before. I get shivers when I hear the name Mentuhotpe. The name somehow is familiar to me. I cry when I see pictures of their Gods. Sometimes I find myself depressed and I repeat over and over agian" I want to go home", but I'm already at home. Since I can remember I have felt a connection to this place. Maybe I'm just crazy!

Why don't u try hyppnosis method..mybe it ca help u a bit...!
and by the way i belive in reincarnation..

That's not a bad idea. I'd also suggest you (ShadowLady) visit your doctor or even a psychologist about it, though, not because these past memories mean you're crazy, but because it sounds like they may grow into something quite debilitating.

I'm no expert of course, it's just my two cents.

I take it no one but Shadow Lady has seen "The Mummy" around here?. Well, it appears we have quite the comedian on the boards.


When I think about something a lot during the day, it usually plays out in my dreams. Since all of my dreams are borderline or are fully lucid, events in the dreams often seem absolutely real. When I wake up sometimes I am terribly confused because the "reality" in my dreams conflicts with the actual reality, making me then realize it was just a dream. I have access to all my senses in the dreams, most recently finding out about taste.

I do believe in reincarnation although probably not anywhere near the traditional sense. My interpretation of these events in your life is that you have a strong interest in the time periods of 1700-1899, I wouldn't call it anything like a "past life regression" but if it is indeed lucid dreaming, you should try and keep doing it. It's quite entertaining.

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Do any of ya'll believe in reincarnation? For the past couple of years I have been having vivid dreams of me as a soldier on some battlefield from the 18 or 19th century. It is so real, the sights and sounds, and yes even the smell. Call me crazy, but I truly think I may be a soldier from another time period.

... Judging by your profile pic, & your invitation to call you crazy, yes I do indeed think you are crazy.

Anywasys, reincarnation is real. Allow me to demonstrate. *Slits throat* *Reborn in a flash of fire* See, there.

TeraLink Was Here!

If you are insinuating that I was joking about the Egypt thing--- well you're wrong. I was serious. "Imotep" was the Mummy's name and I was talking about Mentuhotpe, the Pharaoh from the Eleventh Dynasty. Believe me or not, that's up to you!

Oh I do know that. Imhotep was a key architect of pyramids. But in the movie the main character, the wife of Bradon Frasier's character, remembers her past life as an Egyptian with a name similar to Mentuhotpe.

Sure, Bubba. We all get to come back again and again till we get it right, then we can go on our way.
Like it or not.
Believe it or not.
You cannot die.
You are stuck forever. Just not necessarily here.

I have thought about this or Jung's theory of a collective unconscious as explanations. However, the factor that leads me to think genetic memory is not the cause, is that they are usually from totally different bloodlines so the memories cannot be passed down genetically.

The argument against the collective unconscious as an explanation is the specificity (is that a word?) of the lives recalled. People who remember multiple past lives have memories relating to specific individuals who lived in chronologically compatible time periods.

If it was a shared memory we can all access, then surely there would be the possibility of memories of people who were alive at the same time or more than one person remembering being the same previous person. This doesn't happen, (man, this is getting confusing). They also remember and can be regressed to any part of this specific individuals life as if they lived it.

ShadowLady: I take it you have not been to Egypt yet? In this life anyway. If not, maybe you should try and visit some day. I have read accounts of people having very similar memories to you of faraway places. When they visit these places for the first time they feel at home and somehow know their surroundings and where they are going. In one case a woman was correcting a tour guide on things she would have thought she had no idea about before coming into contact with them 'again'!

Sorry, no disrespect meant, but I find it strange that you believe a man was born to a virgin that could turn water to wine, but still believe we only get to live on God's green Earth once for a measly 70-80 years to win God's favour or suffer for eternity in a pit of fire and damnation. Sorry - no offense.

Man you are so lucky! I love lucid dreams, but they don't come very easily for me.

Read Dr Brian Weiss' books. You will have no doubts of the reality of reincarnation. Better yet get hypnotic past life regression yourself. You will then know the memories you recover are yours!

Peace.

Actually, Her past life name was Nefertiri. And I do not remember being some stupid 'Egyptian princess'. I'm tired of trying to prove to you that I'm serious, and not making up some nonsence based on a movie. Enough said!

I personally don't see how it's possible.

How is it that the population of the world can increase if reincarnation exists?

For example, there are over 6 billion people on earth.

In 200 years, let's say, there are 7 billion.

Where did 1 billion souls come from if we're basically just being recycled? Also, I would suspect that out of those original 6 billion, a number of them would have reached enlightenment.

If you say "other worlds," then I'd like an explanation as to why we don't have memories of these other places, and only past life cases are documented as being here on earth.

Furthermore, the theory of learning something new in each life is quite redundant, since most of us have absolutely no feeling whatsoever of having been somewhere else at one point. If per say, I was an angry dutch goatslayer in a past life, and then I died, reviewed my life, and moved on to the next, I am 100% subject to making the same mistakes, and living out the same basic routines. If I can't recall what happened in another life, how is that going to guide me in the next? What is the point in learning lessons if you can't utilize them? It's pointless. One lifetime is plenty enough to make the right choices. We're all given opportunies to do the things we should do.

Excellent post!

Can't believe everyone's overloooking this.

Ok. Well a few points to address here, so apologies if this becomes another long post. Quantum physics and mainstream science are getting closer to understanding these mysteries now, that Eastern and other philosophies have known about for centuries. Damn! We are so far behind in the 'civilized' world in all things spiritual.

Mainstream science accepts that the Electromagnetic Spectrum is less than 1% of what exists in the universe. This is all our technology has been able to detect so far. They call the rest 'Dark Matter' because they don't know what it is, but they know it exists. Look at that diagram and see how tiny that sliver of visible light is. That is all we can see with our human eyes. Some animals can see outside of this spectrum i.e: infrared or ultraviolet. Now, if this whole spectrum is less than 1% of what we do know to exist - from the slowest waveforms right up to Gamma Rays - think about this: Look at all the diversity of form that we are able to see with our eyes, within that tiny sliver of visible light, and imagine the diversity that must exist throughout the universe!!

We humans get stuck in a rut, thinking that what we see with our eyes is all that exists. Can't remember who said this now, but based on what science knows exists in the universe, human sight is virtually blind. The fact that we see so little of the big picture, explains how a whole variety of paranormal phenomenon are possible: Ghosts; parallel universes; other planes of existence; etc, etc.... Mainstream science is now acknowledging that this is how many unexplained mysteries are indeed possible.

When your cat or dog starts hissing or barking at seemingly empty space - just think for a moment - they are seeing something that does exist, but is beyond the frequency range that our eyes can pick up.

OK. I am coming to my point, don't worry. What we experience as reality, basically comes to most of us through 5 senses. These senses are just electrical signals interpreted by the brain. As The Raven mentioned, and anyone else who has Lucid Dreams knows - your experience of your senses in these dreams is exactly the same as when you are awake. Pinching yourself bloody hurts! So the electrical signals sent to your brain are the same as in waking life.

So, when you turn on your radio - you pick up one frequency. When you tune to another station the other signal is still there, you are just not picking it up. The radio waves being broadcast by both stations still exist in exactly the same space and time as each other, as well as occupying the same space as your body is right now. You cannot feel these radio signals because the electrical signals our senses can receive do not relate to those levels of frequency. So when there are ghost sightings - people are somehow getting a glimpse at listening to another radio station that is usually off their dial. Could be the other way round - that the spirit being is somehow encroaching on the frequency range we do have access to.

Therefore, this physical, five sense reality we experience, is extremely limited and not the only existence there is. You mentioned 'souls' - and people who experience near-death experiences recount very similar accounts of other planes of existence. There must be countless souls, maybe hundreds and hundreds of billions, (I don't know), experiencing reality on other planes. They come to this one, to learn the lessons you can only get on this physical plane. These 'enlightened' individuals move to higher planes. Also, what about the possibility of new souls being created?

Right, so in terms of memories of other planes - anyone who has had hallucinogenic or entheogenic drugs may know what I mean by this. I took magic mushrooms, just once, but I was stoned in Amsterdam and didn't read the accompanying leaflet. So not knowing that they take ages to affect you, I ended up eating far too many, (I know - I was young and stupid). Anyway my experiences that night were very bizarre but very wonderful as well. We ddin't leave our hotel that night, but I felt I had experienced other realities and touched other worlds, (I personally believe all natural, chemically untainted drugs were put on God's Green Earth for our benefit and some to show us the nature of reality). This is hard to explain, but I remember thinking that there was no way in the world I would be able to explain the amazing events I was experiencing. I just knew that my human brain would not be able to comprehend what was happening to me. Our brains just do not have the capacity to process it. Once it was over 10 or so hours later, I quickly forgot most of what had happened and only remember the things linked to our 5 senses, i.e: the visual aspects and also the thought processes I'd had. Search the web for peoples experiences on entheogens like Salvia Divinorum and Ayahuasca. Bloody amazing! Anyway this forgetting, is also reported by people having near-death experiences where they feel they are intentionally being made to forget the knowledge that has been imparted to them. It's quite easy to make people forget things. Look at these mind magicians like Derren Brown from the UK, not to mention hypnosis. Easy as pie. When you say 'other worlds', if you mean within the physical plane i.e: alien planets or even as animals on this planet, then maybe we have incompatible brain chemistry and cannot process information from lives as other beings as easily. Just a theory I have come up with just now. Sounds plausible to me.

Regarding your statement that one life is enough to make the right choices and do enough things. Do you really believe that? In the infinite possibility that exists in life on Earth throughout the history of mankind, you are content with a mere 60 – 90 years or so with one perspective that is your daily experience? Doesn’t make that much sense to me personally.

Finally. Phew! You say what would be the point of it all if we do not remember a thing about our past lives. Well, how do you know you do not remember anything? I'm sure there are certain things you knew from a very early age without someone needing to tell you them. For example, it's wrong to kill, or hurt someone’s feelings etc. You just feel in your heart it is wrong. How do you know that was not learned in a previous life? The lessons you learn, remain with you deep in your soul. You just don't remember the experiences that taught you the lessons.

Peace.

I guess I am lucky, although just because they are lucid does not mean I am able to control them fully yet. I have "free will" in the dreams, but because I don't know I'm dreaming, I don't think something such as "Give me wings and a laser rifle", as I would not in real life. The best way I have discovered to "force" this type of dreaming onto yourself is to eat foods that will upset your stomach somewhat before going to bed, such as ice cream. Because your body will be busy digesting it you will not sleep as deeply as you would otherwise, and therefore have a higher chance of remembering your dreams and be able to experience them more fully.

I do infact believe in reincarnation, but again, my theories of it are probably far beyond the norm and are in no way conventional. If you would like to hear some of them, tell me and I'll try my best.

Good posts RedEyeJedi, I can tell we think in a similar fashion. If only more had Enlightenment-Like ideas.

Do I believe in it? Of course! Nearly every civilization (Before the Christians showed up) believed in it, and they were all very advanced societies. Why wouldn't I believe in an idea that makes perfect sense?
Namaste.
(PS Your last post was really quite good, RedEyeJedi. Good explanations. Good work.)

Thank you very much.

I love your signature and profile message: 'I Love You'. So cool.

You seem to be a very spiritually advanced person. I looked at your profile and saw so many things in your interests that sound so amazing that I have never heard of.

Wow. Thank you. I am going to start looking up some of these things as well as some of the other things you have posted about.

Namaste.

Technically that's incorrect. The Christians at one point believed in reincarnation as well. But it was removed from the Bible.

I hate the concept. But today,if it exits, I found out I was a German officer and when I was little I could understand German. I still want to believe that it was done telepathically though.

edit - When I said I hate the concept, I feels kind of wierd to think you were another person.

You could have very well been a soldier from another time. My dad used to be a mountain man in the past life.

different, very interesting. Me too.
Not kidding.

When I was little my step grandad bought me German clothes. I loved them and wore them for a year. He always knew something we did not. He was a monk for about 8 years or something. Even my grandmother could not figure out how he did what he did. I really am starting to wish he was still alive!

BTW, what does it mean when you have 3 red stripes on your shoulder?

Ha! My expertise! The Turkish Army used stripes to distinguish rank in the early 1900's. Three stripes would make you either a Sergant or a Colour Sergant, I don't remember exactly.

Of course, if that has anything to do with your dream

Since I've been thinking about this subject, the more time I put into it the more amazing it becomes to me. But, I wonder what you are all thinking.

If you beleive in re-incarnation, do you beleive in the part "if you hurt someone in one life you must serve them in the next?" That sounds very cyclical. I mean, there could never possibly be and ending of life, and someday I'm sure there must be.

And as a theory on population jumps, perhaps whenever X amount of souls available for re-incarnation are used up, new ones are simply created. Maybe during sex if you aim to the right you get a new soul, and if you aim to the left you get a re-incarnated one?

If I for some reason was privied to information regarding re-incarnation as Truth, I think the first thing I would do is run up to a neo-nazi and tell him he was Jewish in a previous life... Hehehe.

I agree completely, anyone got a reason to distrust these believes?

Did you not read my post on the previous page? I addressed every point Knightmeir made that you are quoting. If you did read my post can you explain what you disagree with of what I wrote?

Hello Friends:

I belive in reincarnation, I base this belive in that I'm certain that the spirit
and or soul survives the body which for me is a vesel, a vehicle that are loned
to us for a little while. After that we can stay with our master or if our job is not
finsh,we have some Karma to pay or may be the Master has a new Mission or job
back here on Earth we can come back with some memory of our past life.

Considering that even the Earth goes through an annual phase of death and rebirth, it is entirely conceivable that reincarnation is a natural phenomena.

If you give creedance to the belief that Yeschua rose form the dead, you have more evidence of life after death, and such...

Personally, I think it is best to follow your heart on the matter.
And I would avoid having someone tell you who you were if you see a professional.
Instead I would seek a hypnotherapist, as others have suggested, who can walk you through the process of discovering it on your own.

There are those who can read energy, and probably can tell you, but unlike other questions that can be proven as accurate or inaccurate by a reader, a reader who gives you information about a past life, cannot be disproven, in a way that I know of.

Just a warning to help you avoid those trying to make a quick buck by lying.

I stick to readers that can tell me something about myself beforehand, and they are usually right on with what they predict, as they can read energy.
But I would have to go to a hypnotherapist if I were interested in past-lives...

If you know how to lucid dream, you can try to see if you can will yourself to a scene from one of your lives...

Just a few suggestions.
It's late now...
And my eyes are crossing...

Hope this is helpful.
May be peace be upon you

*************

Where there is Honor, there is hope.
-me

No, I don't believe karma works that way.

Actually in reference to the larger population, this is where Buddhism can come in. In the beginning there was a single Oversoul. My opinion is that we split-our souls do-the same way a nucleus splits.

what about insects? i wonder if they reincarnate?

Thought not.

What a loser - FreeZa45 joined the forum recently, posted 3 times - 2 of which were just telling someone they were wrong without any explanation and a third saying someone was using his old handle on a post from way back in 2000!!



I believe karma does sort of work this way. I wouldn't have thought it would be a case where you pay for something in the very next life, but you would, over time, pay off karmic debts. Sometimes, to the very same souls that you owe them to.

Dr Brian Weiss' work suggests that groups of souls reicarnate together, playing out different roles in relation to each other. Have you ever met someone who you have instantly clicked with, and felt you've known them all your life? You probably knew each other in another life.

Pretty much the same thing I believe.

Yelekiah - are you saying that the parents' split their souls off to form their offspring's soul, or some other method? Just curious.

I believe that we split from an original 'Oversoul' as you put it. But I believe it was not necessarily split more and more from generation to generation. Instead I think of it like this: Imagine this Oversoul is a flawless Diamond - at some point it had a 'light' shone on it and every facet of this flawless diamond shone it own rays in a multitude of different directions, each representing different souls.

I therefore believe we are all connected to the One true Source, and we are all a part of God (for want of a better word).

I have got this idea from reading various spiritual material and also from various different accounts of unrelated people taking Entheogenic drugs. Entheogens are drugs, usually taken by Shamens and mystics that supposedly show you the Divine.

It was removed? When, and by who?
What was the original scripture stating that we are reincarnated?

I know that this has happened to me. I can tell who I've known from a past life. Of course I can't prove it but in my heart I know who they are, and they know who I am. I click with a lot of people instantly because I think a piece of my soul has split itself. And this is what inspired the term "soul mate" in my opinion. It doesn't necessarily have to be a relationship that is romantic in origin. Soul mates can be your friends, your coworkers, and so on.


Not necessarily, but that is a possibility imo.


It was removed by Emperor Justinian. There are different versions of the story that I have heard. In one version it was removed because his mistress did not want to return as something negative. Anyway there are several articles on it that I have seen recently, but I heard about this removal ages ago. Anyway he had it removed I believe in the sixth century.

What scripture? What book?

These vague references to scripture removal from the Bible with no sources are getting old.

Use Google I'm not your librarian. Since it was removed how the f would I know what scripture???

Don't state something if you can't back it up.

"I heard it somewhere...." doesn't work.

The article was posted by Venomshocker. I don't have a problem backing it up.
Use the search function.
Also there is this wonderful thing called Google, where they have these things called credible articles. It's not like what I'm saying came from the fn National enquirer, it's part of history. It's not a wild claim I fear backing up, it's just you need to research it yourself cause again, not your librarian.

SO, basically what you're saying is that your belief system is based on an article posted by someone called Venomshocker, and that google has all the true answers to the alleged changes in Bible? Cuz a guy on another thread said that the Vatican has stuff hidden there that only certain people are allowed to see, and he said, and then she said....

I could care less if you're a librarian. But you can't do something as simple as post a source?

Nice!

Where did I say my beliefs came from an article? I've had my beliefs since I was 7 years old. This article was a recent one about a pope getting arrested. It was on the news, derrr. He got arrested for believing in reincarnation and the irony was that Emperor Justinian had it removed (which was mentioned in the article). Things would have been so different. It's not my fault you live under a rock and don't know history. I've posted this article before on this site anyway.
I was actually going to post it until you had to come up with a rude response.
I'm just throwing the energy back, buddy.

Yeah, I'm the one being rude here : )

I don't live under a rock. I just find it funny that there's so many people out there claiming so many "facts" about the Bible, yet when asked for a legitimate source, they get snippy. And the classic 10 year old response "I was gonna till you got mean..."

Sorry to have offended you Mr. "I'm not your librarian."

Enjoy your "energy," and have a swell evening.

Energy is right back at you, dude.
Not here.
Go back one page.

You want to wager on that? Because it's obvious that you do.

^Classic 9 year old response.
I will enjoy my evening, thank you.

http://www.watchman.org/na/new.htm



Good job trying to get a rise out of me. Do a little more research next time.