I do not perosnally subscribe to the following, I am just fishing.

I am wondering what the Nostradamus and/or antichrist experts think.

Is it possible for Mabus to be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or...

Could Mabus be a composite? A combination of MAhmoud and BUSh? I could easily see a a confrontation leading to a nuclear war. I also firmly believe its a matter of when, not if, a nuclear device of will be detonated in a major city (e.g. NY, DC, London, Paric, etc.).

Any thoughts?

For those that don't know...Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was elected Iran's president in June 2005. He's been an obscure figure in Iran, and there's been confusion about his role in the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Several of the 52 Americans who were held hostage in the US embassy in the months after the revolution say they are certain Ahmadinejad was among those who captured them.

Not sure what to make of the Mabus link through Nostradamus; I can say we seem almost certain to go to war with him though.

With regards to war with Iran, you may like these two reads:
http://www.thirdeyeconcept.com/forums/inde...pic,1332.0.html
http://www.thirdeyeconcept.com/forums/inde...pic,1333.0.html

Thought it goes like this osaMabusH. osa-mabus-h. spread it out and its osama and bush.

People say its Osama bin laden. Through some changes in MABUS the Nostradamus "expert" made it sound like Osama. However, also through some changes we can have the name W BUSH. If you turn M upside down we have a W, then put the A at the back of BUS and make an H out of it we will get W BUSH. Easy. But my theorie is just as stupid as the "experts" theorie on TV.
Or is it the owner of SUB's sandwiches? Just read it backwards???..???

I have been convinced that Bush is the antichrist for a while now. Talking at work a few days ago, someone said, "Well he only has two years left". Somehow that didn't make me feel any better, look what damage he could do in those two years. And with Iran doing the Oil Buerse (sp?) and talking about wanting nuclear power, we have the perfect excuse for him to invade them.

According to the Bible the Antichrsit will BE LOVED by the world... muslims, left -behind Christiasn, and all other religions will gather behind him and follow him... i seriously doubt President Bush is beeing followed and loved by the wordl ... specially muslems.

I saw a TV show on History channel, where that possibility was presented... the names put together would be MaBus... but i dont buy it... i think it will be one person only ....and i'm sure when he shows up...everyone will know its him.

The third anti-christ is...............


Martha Stewart




Watch out world, because she is gaining power as we speak!

Check out this guys site, its fairly convincing IMO:

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/

osahman and bush combined

actualy ive always thought it to be ronald mcdonald lol
the antichrist that is

I have the feeling i have been typing to myself...

the AntiChrist WILL BE LOVED AND FOLLOWED BY THE WORLD !!! Neither Bush or Osama are loved or followed except for thos who agree with them... see the difference ????

Whoever brings peace (apparent) to the Middle East will be the AC.

The worlds getting bigger and group sizes will grow creating larger followings.

Agree with stinger92860 - Maybe the anti-christ itself is not a person but a single symbiant entity.

It's quite obvious who the antichrist is, if you think about it. Who is somebody the entire world loves? Who can get people to eat certain things, live a certain way and read certain books? Open your eyes people! It's OPRAH!!! Have you ever seen how people in her audience react to her? She could lead an army of millions simply by offering them a bucket of that damned Chicago popcorn!

Mobius? Modbus? Mobus? Hmm... modbus...

The A-C is a person... thast why the number 666 is the "number of a men", not the "numer of a entity"...........

i thought that number was changed to 616 ?

i think opra could be the next one--she could "buy" the world and evict us all !!

maybe its donald trump or bill gates ?--LOL

I mean no dis-respect to people of the United States, but I assume the next anti-christ is going to be the person that targets and hits the United States very hard. The egotiscal ways of the states pretty much has the entire world in a bind. There is no country in the world that is more developed government, and economy wise then the states. Plus the states more or less does rule the world.

Picture it this way, the states is a big bully on the playground. He keeps everyone else in check, but if anyone else ever tried to overthrow him, he would beat them up. Eventually, people are going to get tired of living under their rule. The first person to cripple this bully is going to be favored world wide, and especially in the eastern world. Whomever does this, Bin Laden, or Iran's new president, will be the next anti-christ. Even people that have great diplomatic ties with the states will be surprised, but I would assume there will be a sigh of relief, and the people agree that it's about time.

"666" is the number of the beast, not the man.
The AC is going to be somebody (or something?) who claims to be a follower of a christian religion. A moslem can not be an AC. Why? Do not have a clue.
Perhaps I'm just high again.

Good theory, but not so sure.. after the September 11 attacks I feel a lot of the world felt sorry for all those innocent people getting killed and I don't think anyone attacking innocent people again will be loved/accepted worldwide. If someone was to kill just Bush then maybe

This is correct, because the attack was against the people, not so much as United States as a whole. To put it into better terms, if a nation was able to take away The States economy, and their hold over the rest of the world trade and economic wise, then perhaps it would be different. The American Dollar is worth a lot around the world, and I bet it ticks off a lot of nations that their currency is worth next to nothing. As a Canadian, I know a bit about it. When I come to the states, and find out I need to pay almost double for any product just because my currency is not good enough, just feels almost unfair. I worked just as hard as any other American to receive my pay, so I would assume it should be treated equally.

With that new Oil Chain opening in Iran, things could change very much like what I just spoke of. The article read below can give you some insight.

New Oil Bourse

i agree, he will be someone that is very charismatic and people are willing to follow. he's going to do the right things and say the right words, then after he has everyone fooled and following him he will then show his true self.

So the antichrist isn't Bill Gates,right?

^^^

Are you joking? Of course its not Bill Gates lol.

Has to be the pope!

az -

although i do agree with some of your points, it would severly injure the world if the US economy collapsed.

The reason why the US currency is highly valued around the world is because the US's GDP is higher than most of the world. However this is begining to change with the advent of the euro - indeed the euro was created so that europe could compete with the united states economic power. It is the first step in creating 'The united states of Europe'

The US should not be the world police, however.

If youre tired of your candadian money not being worth as much in the US, shop in canada or mexico, or work in the US. But remember, US healthcare is absolute crap. You canadians have that going very well for you, we have to pay insane amounts for our meds, and some meds you can get in basically every other country you can't get here because it 'competes' with US corporation's version of the medicine that doesnt even work as well. We do pay for our money being worth more.

However, I believe it is a bad choice to ship out most of the production jobs overseas. Everything is obviously cheaper if made in-country. Also, if there is a major war, I don't think china would have any trouble keeping all the technology that was shipped to the US inside china.

isnt the anti christ sopossed to frequent/or come from the middle east, and have some kinda base of operations (so to speak) in like a europe nation some where?

kinda forget i do..

Hey, this may sound strange but what if Mabus is not the third antichrist?


Century II, Quatrain 62

Mabus then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.


What if Mabus is the one in the antichrist's way.
Perhaps a political opponent that prevents the true antichrist from gaining full power. What if Mabus is assassinated which allows the antichrist to rule with "Machiavellian" techniques, which endores the appearence of good in a leader while the still slaugtering inoccent people.

Consider the prophety, the major troubles do not happen until after Mabus dies. the other two antichrists Nostradamus meantions are alive while their crimes happen. Both Napoleon and Hitler were cruel, that cruelity only stopped when Napoleon was exiled and Hitler commited suicide.

The fact that Mabus dies before the conflict suggests that he is not the antichrist and may not even be immoral for that matter. There so many riddles in Nostradamus' writings that they seem to unfold only after they occur.

What we do know for certain about Mabus is that his death will come first in a list of sufferers.

-Luna_2015

Welcome to UM!

But umm, can you try not to post text that big =/

Nostrodamas was a Jewish Kabbalist. Most people unknowingly correlate Nostrodamas with the Book of Revelation not knowing the occult nature of the text. In fact, the Apocalypse is an initiatic document detailing and Christian Mysteries. It deals with what happens when the "seven seals" are opened, the seven chakras. It involves spiritual awakening, not any prediction for the future.

See James Morgan Pryse's Apocalypse Unsealed.

Many have already experienced the Apocalypse ... the opening of the seven seals. It's a profound experience ... I will tell you that.

Cro maat,
Frater Rosencruez

Mabus is....Mabus
It is not importand anymore who he is.
What scares me is what is going right now on in the world.
There is alredy a war between good and evel. Can't we see that.
All the hatered against Islam, and all the hatered of moslem extremists against the west.
And, it is not only against Islam but also against Christians and Jews.
It is a fight against the monoteistic religions. Only the ways are different.
They know how easy it is to upset the moslems by attacking Mohammed alejhiselam.
And they use it.
Christianity is shaken by sexual mishapps and the Jews are stampeld as money hungry inhumans.
Brothers and sisters, Christians, Jews and Muslims, it is a fight against God. And they are using our differences to force us to fight against each other.
I know it sounds crazy. But...
Think. May god help us, his children, Chirtians, Jews and Moslems.
STOP THE HATERED, STOP THE WAR.

Don't know much of anything in this area, but Bush is quite widely loved, and for a while he was as widely loved as any American president had been. I do agree, though, that when I think "loved and followed by the world", Bush doesn't quite seem to fit the bill, and Osama doesn't come close.

In Gematria, or the sacred geo-metria of the Greeks, where numbers and words were synonymous ...


akolasia (sensuality) = 333
speirema (the coiled serpent or Kundalini, the Serpent Fire) = 444
epithumia (emotions) = 555
he phren (lower mind) = 666 in Gematria.
Stauros (cross) = 777
Iesous (Jesus) = 888
epistemon (one who knows) = 999
ho nikkon (conqueror) = 1000

Well you got part of it right. The second part is wrong. Mabus is Mahmoud, but not Ahmadinejad. Its............................. Mahmoud Abbas,Palestinian Leader.
I'd have to agree with Luna_2015.

Fatah Future in Doubt after split - Mabus' Time?
Crisis brewing? Is there a hurricane Katrina heading toward Palestine that will sweep Mabus (Mahmoud Abbas) into the ‘hit’ category for Nostradamus? Is Mabus about to die, letting all hell break loose? Time will tell…

This is where this is true "What if Mabus is assassinated which allows the antichrist to rule with "Machiavellian" techniques, which endores the appearence of good in a leader while the still slaugtering inoccent people." Cause once Mabus Dies Antichrist will come into power. Which is why it says If Mabus is to die, then lots of hell will break loose and thus Antichrist will come to power.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4533438.stm

Please read this article to be enlighted:
http://my666.boom.ru/666_en.html

You seriously think (if there were an anti-christ) he'd sport such a stupid haircut and subject himself to such ridicule?

If I were the anti-christ (and let's face it I probably am) I'd sport a nice purple mohawk.

"I'm Mr Manfred, and I'm an anti-christ mohawk!"

write Mabus on a piece of paper.. then look at it in the mirror... reads.. SUDAM....

I'm AntiChrist from 666 number!!!

I actually had a purple mohawk some time ago...

there wouldnt be left behind christians, because there is no rapture in the bible. its a made up concept.

sound almost like the plot of star wars the phantom menace, were senator Palpatine (the sith lord) unleash the war between the trade federation and the queendom of naboo. But this is just a decoy, because he use (the war) to gain power and later to build the empire. Just a analogy, but it can happen.
The antichrist somehow manage to kill this mabus guy (who perhaps is a puppet in his hands) let the hell break lose and then he comes and put everything in order...could that be?

how about this : MABUS = M ohamed AB raham, christ US

The first religion to fall is the follower of the prophet Mohamed (islam) then the people of ABraham, and in for the last
the end of christianity, the people who follow christus.
So perhaps what we see here is the end of (abramitic) monoteism...who are going to be replaced with something else...

I'm yet a full subscriber to Nostrodamus' predictions; however, I did some "toying" around one day and typed in "Mabus" in google and one of the entries was eerie. The article was about a former govenor of Mississippi named Ray Mabus. I recall he was involved in an effort to get an "arc" built in Israel. This "arc" was a superhighway of some sort for people/goods to get around to the religious sites that are scattered across Israel.

What is eerie is that a man wth the same name as predicted by Nostrodamus to be the antichrist is taking charge of the infrastructure of "the" political hotspot in the world.

The anti-christs way to power, is through chaos he shall bring alleged order....Hence why the bush is his puppet and horseman of the apocolypse, god of war,,,,, chaos around the world through war and bloodshed, will make poeple accept any one world goverment, which promises to unite and create peace, then the anti-christ will come to power.

Nostradamus is full of sh** anyway, is literature is so vague, that i can make your grandma look like the antichrist.

the real motive is this, neo conservative christians, Bush and his pals, are desperate to have a state of isreal and a state of palestine side by side, so they can fulfil the biblcal prophecy, which says that, the jews will have their land and only then will the second coming of jesus take place and then you have it all the domino effect of the appocolypse and the antichrist...

the you have muslim (and its not moslem you fools) prohecy, which suggests that they will keep fighting the jews till the last days, and never allow the jews to have full control of the area, therefore allowing their second coming of jesus in damascus and then he will kill the anti christ - Dajjal (the liar) Actually the islamic literature gives a vivid description of the anti-christ more than any other religious scriptures, they even go as far to say, what he will look like, what he will do, and where he will die.

Wasn't 666 really just Nero's (the christian-hating emporor) address?

AntiChrsit is opposition of Christ!!!

That speaks AntiChrist, who was born to be free! Who was born under sign 666

reading the posts.. which all are interesting...

seems though that many seem to think that there will be only ONE antichrist...

there will be THREE.... and each as evil as the next...

There have been many flase prophet and many false anti-christs too.... The real one is just one... and loads of followers.

AntiChrsit is not false-prophet!!! But there are many antichristes in the world.

i agree there a re many anti-christs in the world today, but near the end times, the true anti-christ will appear. He will be one man, with a close army of 40,000 jews, who will think he is the messiah. Where as we know the messiah was jesus.