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vampires111
vlad tepes is known by the name of count dracula or vlad the impalier he was one of the centuries most fiercest war fighters in the century until his demise when the carpathians killed him...... or did they? many sites of vlad tepes has been seen all through transylvainia. is he dead or is he alive cutting a whole through the fabric of time..... we may never know unless people travle to castle dracula and seek him out then we believers will know wether he is real or not i think he is real but that is just my opinion.
Sweetpumper
He's about as real as werewolves.
rhylin
He was real. But I don't think he exists anymore. Has there been any valid sightings? pictures? Are people seeing his ghost?
evil_E.T
yeah, he existed, and hes dead as far as im concerned, as ive found that generally, it means you are dead when your head is cut off and stuck on a pike, although, thats just my opinion...
aquatus1
I can't say I've heard of any sightings of Vlad after he died. Then again, I haven't really looked.
_Nyx_
Vlad was not only a mere butcher. He was famous for his good words and the way he questioned people before killing them, always justifying his acts by the desire of justice and some vicious sense of humour as an epitaph.

More info here:
signman
my favourite vamp is Janos Skorzeny from Las Vegas
TeraLink
QUOTE(Sweetpumper @ Jan 23 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1033007[/snapback]

He's about as real as werewolves.

Then, my friend, he is quite real. Pwn*d.

TeraLink Was Here! wink2.gif
Yelekiah
QUOTE(Sweetpumper @ Jan 23 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1033007[/snapback]

He's about as real as werewolves.

Then I guess werewolves are real too (s).
Vlad Tepes was very real indeed, however, he wasn't called Tepes until after his death, which means impaler. He often spelled his name Draculea, which is son of the devil, or son of the dragon. Tepes helped to inspire Bram Stoker of course.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(TeraLink @ Jan 23 2006, 03:46 PM) [snapback]1033285[/snapback]


Then, my friend, he is quite real. Pwn*d.

TeraLink Was Here! wink2.gif


Whatever.

Vlad was a very real and cruel person. He was in no shape or form a vampire.
Yelekiah
Despite that he was said to dip his bread in the blood of his victims. I, however, think that even though this was in a German manuscript, it more than likely was an exaggeration. Same with the death count.
CharmedFan3
He did exsist but wasnt a vampire. He was only a man without a soul who killed innocent people.
divine_mockery
He was real, but "Dracula" has never been, except in books and movies.
Yelekiah
His name *was* Dracula.
divine_mockery
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Jan 24 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]1033482[/snapback]

His name *was* Dracula.

Well, yes..

The spelling was Vlad III Drăculea though rofl.gif
Yelekiah
Also Draculeya, Dracula, etc.
Piney
QUOTE(vampires111 @ Jan 23 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]1032983[/snapback]

v... we may never know unless people travle to castle dracula and seek him out then we believers will know wether he is real or not i think he is real but that is just my opinion.


...except the last section of wall of that castle fell down in a earthquake in 1940 and his head was sent to Constantinople after he was killed by Slovak troops under him in 1476.

Lapi'che
psyche101
QUOTE(Piney @ Jan 24 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]1033691[/snapback]

...except the last section of wall of that castle fell down in a earthquake in 1940 and his head was sent to Constantinople after he was killed by Slovak troops under him in 1476.

Lapi'che



Even a good vampire would have a hard time resurecting from that wouldn't it?

I take it the topic is a question, my answer

Was a real person that became a myth
rhylin
Bah. Vlad was real. But just because he was a sick sadistic murderer doesn't mean he is a vampire. He inspired Bram Stoker's book, because he was a sick, sadistic killer.
here is some info:
http://www.donlinke.com/drakula/vlad.htm
http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Balkan/Dracula.html
http://www.vladtheimpaler.com/
And for the people who are fans of the impaler....
http://www.too-manic.net/vlad/

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Endymion
Yes I say he was real also,and exists old documents talking about him,he existed like Jesus existed too,but if they were like the books says I dont know.
rhylin
QUOTE(Endymion @ Jan 24 2006, 04:59 PM) [snapback]1034466[/snapback]

Yes I say he was real also,and exists old documents talking about him,he existed like Jesus existed too,but if they were like the books says I dont know.

yes many agree that Vlad Dracula was indeed a real person. He is down in history. But that doesn't make him a vampire.
Yelekiah
Well there's more proof on Dracula's existence than Jesus. Actually...now that I think about it, there is no historical evidence that Jesus existed.
There was also a film about Vlad Tepes. It may have been called Prince of Darkness: the True Story of Dracula, or something similar. Interesting film, but not entirely accurate.
Blood-lust
Dracula was a real person, he was a prince, he did not have fangs or anything like that, but he did drink blood. This is well known in a lot of history books if you read them it'll tell you everything.
meird
QUOTE(Blood-lust @ Jan 29 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1040124[/snapback]

Dracula was a real person, he was a prince, he did not have fangs or anything like that, but he did drink blood. This is well known in a lot of history books if you read them it'll tell you everything.


rolleyes.gif can u pls.. tell me some of the names of the books you read so i can serch for it. i think it is really interesting! yes.gif
meird
QUOTE(vampires111 @ Jan 23 2006, 11:33 PM) [snapback]1032983[/snapback]

vlad tepes is known by the name of count dracula or vlad the impalier he was one of the centuries most fiercest war fighters in the century until his demise when the carpathians killed him...... or did they? many sites of vlad tepes has been seen all through transylvainia. is he dead or is he alive cutting a whole through the fabric of time..... we may never know unless people travle to castle dracula and seek him out then we believers will know wether he is real or not i think he is real but that is just my opinion.


thumbsup.gif i think u really are so into them. .. wink2.gif pls. inform as more about them!
meird
QUOTE(vampires111 @ Jan 23 2006, 11:33 PM) [snapback]1032983[/snapback]

vlad tepes is known by the name of count dracula or vlad the impalier he was one of the centuries most fiercest war fighters in the century until his demise when the carpathians killed him...... or did they? many sites of vlad tepes has been seen all through transylvainia. is he dead or is he alive cutting a whole through the fabric of time..... we may never know unless people travle to castle dracula and seek him out then we believers will know wether he is real or not i think he is real but that is just my opinion.



thumbsup.gif i think u really are so into them. .. wink2.gif pls. inform us more about them!
Yelekiah
QUOTE(Blood-lust @ Jan 29 2006, 01:45 AM) [snapback]1040124[/snapback]

but he did drink blood. This is well known in a lot of history books if you read them it'll tell you everything.

No they aren't in any valid history books that he drank blood. In fact there is no reference that he technically "drank" blood at all. The only blood reference that I specifically recall is when he dipped his bread in blood in a German manuscript. This most likely was not only propaganda but an exaggeration if not an outright lie yes.gif
The death count as well more than like was an exaggeration, because he would have killed I believe at least half of the Romanian population at the time. Which is ridiculous if you think about it. It is the equivalent to killing millions of people in Los Angeles.
Taylor
He was alive? Even if he was, I don't belive in him. Vampires are not real.
Blood-lust
QUOTE(Yelekiah @ Jan 29 2006, 07:08 AM) [snapback]1040215[/snapback]

No they aren't in any valid history books that he drank blood. In fact there is no reference that he technically "drank" blood at all. The only blood reference that I specifically recall is when he dipped his bread in blood in a German manuscript. This most likely was not only propaganda but an exaggeration if not an outright lie yes.gif
The death count as well more than like was an exaggeration, because he would have killed I believe at least half of the Romanian population at the time. Which is ridiculous if you think about it. It is the equivalent to killing millions of people in Los Angeles.



I'm not positive of everything, I'm just explaining what I've heard and read. I'll admit I wasn't to sure on how he drank blood, or as you say dipped his bread. I just know he had tasted it or whatever you want to say he did. I must do some more reading, forgive me if I was completely wrong,but as I said, I'm only stateing what I've read or heard.
werewolf_child
QUOTE(Sweetpumper @ Jan 23 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1033007[/snapback]

He's about as real as werewolves.

huh.gif What an insult
Yelekiah
QUOTE
I'm only stateing what I've read

And I'm just curious about where you have heard this.
dothejakeman
*sigh*
he's dead.
not alive.
dead.
DEAD.
ok? dead.
deeeeaaaaad.
and to make this perfectly clear to ALL of you: the man is DEAD.
psyche101
QUOTE(Taylor @ Jan 30 2006, 02:31 AM) [snapback]1040295[/snapback]

He was alive? Even if he was, I don't belive in him. Vampires are not real.


I ment he was a real live ordinary man, who became the legend of the vampire.
No, I am with you on this one vampires only exist in the bat form as found in the tropic
rainforest areas of Central and South America. Nothing supernatural about those little beasties.

Off Topic
Yelekiah - wasn't the shroud of Turin considered some form of evidence?
Yelekiah
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jan 29 2006, 11:08 PM) [snapback]1040897[/snapback]

Off Topic
Yelekiah - wasn't the shroud of Turin considered some form of evidence?

No the time that it was made does not coincide with the time that Christ was alive. In fact some people speculated that Da Vinci made it. Personally I don't think so. But again, no, the shroud is not evidence.
freak of nature
QUOTE(vampires111 @ Jan 23 2006, 11:33 AM) *
vlad tepes is known by the name of count dracula or vlad the impalier he was one of the centuries most fiercest war fighters in the century until his demise when the carpathians killed him...... or did they? many sites of vlad tepes has been seen all through transylvainia. is he dead or is he alive cutting a whole through the fabric of time..... we may never know unless people travle to castle dracula and seek him out then we believers will know wether he is real or not i think he is real but that is just my opinion.





ive done research on the subject and believe he is a vampire, and the inspiration for the story by bram stoker
rosenrot
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 29 2007, 12:17 PM) *
ive done research on the subject and believe he is a vampire, and the inspiration for the story by bram stoker

No, Vlad was not a vampire. There is a thread on this in the Alternate History Forum. There is a difference between being sadistic and being a vampire; Vlad was sadistic and used it as part of a psychological war. However, you are correct in stating that Vlad was Bram Stoker's inspiration; however, he also got a lot inspiration from Countess Elizabeth Bathory, a sadistic ruler who would kill you girls and bathe in their blood because she believe it made her look younger.
Ghø§t
QUOTE(rosenrot @ Aug 29 2007, 08:34 PM) *
No, Vlad was not a vampire. There is a thread on this in the Alternate History Forum. There is a difference between being sadistic and being a vampire; Vlad was sadistic and used it as part of a psychological war. However, you are correct in stating that Vlad was Bram Stoker's inspiration; however, he also got a lot inspiration from Countess Elizabeth Bathory, a sadistic ruler who would kill you girls and bathe in their blood because she believe it made her look younger.




Did she end up looking younger? grin2.gif
Genocyde
It is said that she had some of the fairest skin in her whole kingdom, so I guess she did, lol. Also, Ghost, you have the best avatar ever. grin2.gif
Archosaur
Dose anyone have information on his knightly order?
psyche101
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 30 2007, 02:17 AM) *
ive done research on the subject and believe he is a vampire, and the inspiration for the story by bram stoker


Interesting, I have never known anyone to agree with your first assumption as an after effect of research. The second yes, but never the first.
freak of nature
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Aug 29 2007, 11:29 PM) *
Interesting, I have never known anyone to agree with your first assumption as an after effect of research. The second yes, but never the first.



vlad was more than sadistic, and while elizabeth looked young it was more complection than anything else. she wsa rumored to have dated a man the locals considered a vampire
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 29 2007, 11:17 AM) *
ive done research on the subject and believe he is a vampire, and the inspiration for the story by bram stoker

Then you need to keep researching. I did 3 papers on Vlad in college. Nothing should lead you to believe he was a vampire. He was the inspiration for Bram, because he was brutal and sadistic.
Mal X
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 30 2007, 04:24 PM) *
vlad was more than sadistic, and while elizabeth looked young it was more complection than anything else. she wsa rumored to have dated a man the locals considered a vampire


Vlad used to torture small animals while he was locked up as a child, a very sick person indeed; but also a brave warrior...his headless skeleton was indeed found in that small monestry/ along with some artifacts, but all of this was stolen.

he was also rumoured to have killed prostitutes as per jack the ripper, there's loads of rumours about him, did he impale his victims? yes because evidence of this has been found in his locality recently.

his life story appears in GERMAN, RUSSIAN and also TURKISH historical documents... it all coincides, his life story is indeed 90% accurate, even the POPE's envoy met him and confirmed everything at that time.

did he drink blood, i dont know, but he definitely was a cannibal; because this is mentioned in one his more infamous stories..... if you can imagine a sadist, plus a twisted serial killer; being allowed to run your country ( no holds barred ) , then you're bound to end up with somebody like VLAD DRAKULYA.

in criminal profiling:- DRAKULYA has the classic hallmarks of a serial killer, a hard cruel very violent childhood, no love, growing up alone, disillusioned and torturing animals...... because these are the early warning signs

DRAKULYA was the most evil person to have ever lived.......almost definitely, there's some that come close; but not quite as bad as him, it's not the amount that he killed ( still very high).... it's the differing ways that he tortured people; he had refined it as an art form.
Ghø§t
He's like Hannibal grin2.gif But way worse.
capoeiranger
He was real, a serial killer with ultimate power in his country. He impaled and ate some of his victims. He was so infamously cruel that Bram Stoker was inspired and can;t think of best name other than Dracula to his most famous novel ever.





But no, he was no vampire. The vampire was Count Dracula on the book of Bram Stoker. not on actual history.
freak of nature
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Aug 30 2007, 03:50 PM) *
He was real, a serial killer with ultimate power in his country. He impaled and ate some of his victims. He was so infamously cruel that Bram Stoker was inspired and can;t think of best name other than Dracula to his most famous novel ever.
But no, he was no vampire. The vampire was Count Dracula on the book of Bram Stoker. not on actual history.



vlad was a vampire elizabeth bathory was also; 'Vampires are beings that subsist on human and/or animal lifeforce' blood is a life force they both used the blood to their own advantage
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 31 2007, 11:46 AM) *
vlad was a vampire elizabeth bathory was also; 'Vampires are beings that subsist on human and/or animal lifeforce' blood is a life force they both used the blood to their own advantage

NO he wasn't a vampire. Nor was elizabeth. She was crazy. Please study on these things before making such claims.
Mal X
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 31 2007, 05:46 PM) *
vlad was a vampire elizabeth bathory was also; 'Vampires are beings that subsist on human and/or animal lifeforce' blood is a life force they both used the blood to their own advantage


vampires dont exist in the real world, DRAKULYA was as i've said.........please study his life, E.Bathory was more insane than anything else.

in any case, the real DRAKULYA was far worst than bram stoker's DRACULA, he didn't even look the same either, DRACULA was tall and slim; but VLAD THE IMPALER was short and stocky with long hair..

VLAD THE IMPALER was totally evil, but so where many other rulers around at his time, yes; VLAD THE IMPALER was far worst than anyone else and this was probably what got him killed.... i expect he was assassinated by his own men in that final battle, because they realised what would happen when he got back into power ; so they ambushed him and gave his severed head to the TURKS.... many rulers that VLAD knew were assassinated by their own subjects, you couldn't trust anyone back then, because the ruling classes switched political allegiances all the time.... VLAD THE IMPALER killed everybody from the ruling classes that he suspected of treachery ( when he first got into power) but the trouble for him was; that he was locked up yet again for about 12 years and during this time, a new generation of the ruling classes had grown up and didn't want this monster back in power, VLAD THE IMPALER returned and the perfect time to disguise his assassination was during a battle, and to appease the turks and stop them from destroying their country, they gave his severed head to them, the TURKS said ``thank you`` and left for home after the battle.

HOLLYWOOD is to blame for all this bull about vampires/ werewolves etc , but to believe it's true is very sad indeed


Mal X
now this bloke was very evil indeed Gilles de Rais.... he was involved in heavyweight witchcraft, demonology, murder etc etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais

his envolvement in satanism isn't mentioned much in that link, you'll have to do a more detailed search to find out that stuff

its worth a look, even so; you'd be far better off studying something like GIANT ANACONDAS etc .... much better for your mind and easier to sleep at night.

BECAUSE, i used to be very interested in VLAD THE IMPALER, i even had a portrait of him at home... i had to burn it, there are certain things in this world that are best left alone... he was no vampire, but definitely heavyweight evil and that's a fact; have you ever played a OUIJA board? well that's what that painting felt like

well as i say..... steer well clear, stick to SABER TOOTH TIGERS, MEGALODON, or HYAENODON
rosenrot
QUOTE(freak of nature @ Aug 31 2007, 12:46 PM) *
vlad was a vampire elizabeth bathory was also; 'Vampires are beings that subsist on human and/or animal lifeforce' blood is a life force they both used the blood to their own advantage

I think you need to check your history. Neither Elizabeth nor Vlad "subsisted on human life." They were sadists who derived pleasure from killing.
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