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I am a University engineering studnet. After I read all the articles being posted on the web we only know that they have such a stone from the DROPA but what I found in the page is that they do found some skeleton of dropa . So why not just get a skeleton and make a DNA test see whether they match to our human ancestor ? then this mystery will be solve if their DNA is really different from the human race this means that they are the entirely new species on earth which we had never encounter before but at least it give us a better knowledge about them rather then always talk about the stone .
Good idea, but how are we going to get a dropa skeleton?
Ask for one? 
dig one up, duh 
That would be interesting if one could get an analysis...
That would be interesting if one could get an analysis...
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dig one up, duh
That would be interesting if one could get an analysis...
mhm.
I'd like to hear what they discover.
Well, there were skellies in the cave where the disks were discovered.
I guess we'd have to ask the chinese to allow us to run tests on them.
Then they'd probably run tests on them before us and come out with the credit, but not tell anyone because theyre commies and they like to keep their people away from knowledge, hence their ban on google.
So maybe we could get them.. although even if it doesnt match humans doesnt mean its an alien, it could be an extinct form of ape.
Would definatly be interesting though.
I guess we'd have to ask the chinese to allow us to run tests on them.
Then they'd probably run tests on them before us and come out with the credit, but not tell anyone because theyre commies and they like to keep their people away from knowledge, hence their ban on google.
So maybe we could get them.. although even if it doesnt match humans doesnt mean its an alien, it could be an extinct form of ape.
Would definatly be interesting though.
Dropa? 
Pretty odd stuff. Are these stories true?
This might be a better link
Do the chinese govt have the skeletons, do the government have the discs. when was the last tests done on either.are they in a museum or where are they
Any pictures of the Han or Dropa peoples today?
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Do the chinese govt have the skeletons, do the government have the discs. when was the last tests done on either.are they in a museum or where are they
The Dropa's, well that is a very interesting story, if it is true about the extraterrestrial being's crashed landed on this planet and wrote their story on discs. It would be a fantastic discovery, but the fact is that it is in China, and if they are as anal as the US government with unexplained phenomenon, there will not be much evidence left. If there was any acquirable knowledge out there, then the government will try and confiscate or acquire it anyway they can, and have. Knowledge is power and the one's that have better knowledge usually have the more power.
This is another Von-Hoaxiken.
Full article at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa
I never fully trust what I read in Wikipedia, but it's a good jump point to reading more into a given subject.
So sad, I was very excited about this one too - it had a lot of promise. But as usual Mr. Von Daniken disappoints.
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Below is a detailed rebuttal of most sensationalistic Extraterrestrial/Dropa claims:
* 1. The discovery. There are no mentions of 'Tsum Um Nui' anywhere; as he is supposed to have fled China and died in Japan in the 60s this cannot be negated by cultural revolution - communist coverup theory. Also, there is no mention of the 1938 archaeological expedition to the Bayan Kara Ula range. The "Peking Academy of Pre-History" that was the supposed originator never existed.
* 2. Early Sources. The first reliable mention of the story is in Erich von Däniken's infamous 1968 book, Chariots of the Gods. Vast majority of names and sources appearing there cannot be corroborated, and no existence of the following Soviet or Chinese scholars can be found anywhere outside this story: Chu Pu Tei, Tsum Um Nui, Ernst Wegener, Vyatcheslav Saitzev, Sergei Lolladoff. Most tellingly, Däniken gives his main source for the story as a Soviet sci-fi writer Alexander Kazantsev; however Kazantsev himself disagrees with Däniken's account and says that it was Däniken who told him the story, not the other way around.
* 3. Later Sources. The 1978 book Sungods in Exile "edited" by David Agamon, appeared to lend support to the story of the Dropa, but Agamon admitted in the magazine Fortean Times in 1988 that the book was fiction and that its alleged author, a British researcher named Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans, was imaginary. Some websites claim to show a photo of Dr Robin-Evans with the Dalai Lama. A frail, old man assisted by the current Dalai Lama, the photograph is quite recent and can not be Dr Robin-Evans -- he died in 1978, according to Hartwig Hausdorf.
* 4. Translation. There is absolutely no precedent for an unknown language being successfully deciphered. All lost Ancient languages have been rediscovered only because they survived in forms familiar to scientists. Even in such cases, deciphering and understanding these older language forms and their scripts has usually taken decades for multiple teams of highly competent linguists, and their findings are constantly being debated and updated. Many ancient scripts (notably Linear A from the island of Crete and Rongorongo from Easter Island), have defied deciphering precisely because they cannot be linked to any known language. Given these facts, there would be even greater difficulties in translating a truly extraterrestrial language. It is therefore highly unlikely that a single Chinese scholar with no reported background in linguistics could single-handedly decypher an alien script or language in his spare time.
* 5. The Disks. All that exists of the supposed alien disks are several wide-angle photographs. The disks photographed, firstly, do not match the described "12-inch disks"; the disks photographed are very large. Secondly, the photos show none of the supposed deep grooves. Finally, absolutely no photos, descriptions, analyses or any other evidence of the actual 'alien script' appear anywhere at all.
* 6. The Evidence. The disks were supposed to be stored in several museums in China. None of these museums have any traces of these disks, nor can any be found of the ones supposedly sent to USSR for analysis.
* 7. The Dropa Tribe. While reported to be a tribe of feeble dwarfs, in actuality the Dropas are nomadic herders who inhabit most of the northern Tibetan Plateau. The Ham are also inhabitants of Tibet, and traditionally have supplied Tibet's warriors: many of the 13th Dalai Lama's bodyguards during his escape from the Chinese invasion were Ham Tibetans.
* 1. The discovery. There are no mentions of 'Tsum Um Nui' anywhere; as he is supposed to have fled China and died in Japan in the 60s this cannot be negated by cultural revolution - communist coverup theory. Also, there is no mention of the 1938 archaeological expedition to the Bayan Kara Ula range. The "Peking Academy of Pre-History" that was the supposed originator never existed.
* 2. Early Sources. The first reliable mention of the story is in Erich von Däniken's infamous 1968 book, Chariots of the Gods. Vast majority of names and sources appearing there cannot be corroborated, and no existence of the following Soviet or Chinese scholars can be found anywhere outside this story: Chu Pu Tei, Tsum Um Nui, Ernst Wegener, Vyatcheslav Saitzev, Sergei Lolladoff. Most tellingly, Däniken gives his main source for the story as a Soviet sci-fi writer Alexander Kazantsev; however Kazantsev himself disagrees with Däniken's account and says that it was Däniken who told him the story, not the other way around.
* 3. Later Sources. The 1978 book Sungods in Exile "edited" by David Agamon, appeared to lend support to the story of the Dropa, but Agamon admitted in the magazine Fortean Times in 1988 that the book was fiction and that its alleged author, a British researcher named Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans, was imaginary. Some websites claim to show a photo of Dr Robin-Evans with the Dalai Lama. A frail, old man assisted by the current Dalai Lama, the photograph is quite recent and can not be Dr Robin-Evans -- he died in 1978, according to Hartwig Hausdorf.
* 4. Translation. There is absolutely no precedent for an unknown language being successfully deciphered. All lost Ancient languages have been rediscovered only because they survived in forms familiar to scientists. Even in such cases, deciphering and understanding these older language forms and their scripts has usually taken decades for multiple teams of highly competent linguists, and their findings are constantly being debated and updated. Many ancient scripts (notably Linear A from the island of Crete and Rongorongo from Easter Island), have defied deciphering precisely because they cannot be linked to any known language. Given these facts, there would be even greater difficulties in translating a truly extraterrestrial language. It is therefore highly unlikely that a single Chinese scholar with no reported background in linguistics could single-handedly decypher an alien script or language in his spare time.
* 5. The Disks. All that exists of the supposed alien disks are several wide-angle photographs. The disks photographed, firstly, do not match the described "12-inch disks"; the disks photographed are very large. Secondly, the photos show none of the supposed deep grooves. Finally, absolutely no photos, descriptions, analyses or any other evidence of the actual 'alien script' appear anywhere at all.
* 6. The Evidence. The disks were supposed to be stored in several museums in China. None of these museums have any traces of these disks, nor can any be found of the ones supposedly sent to USSR for analysis.
* 7. The Dropa Tribe. While reported to be a tribe of feeble dwarfs, in actuality the Dropas are nomadic herders who inhabit most of the northern Tibetan Plateau. The Ham are also inhabitants of Tibet, and traditionally have supplied Tibet's warriors: many of the 13th Dalai Lama's bodyguards during his escape from the Chinese invasion were Ham Tibetans.
Full article at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa
I never fully trust what I read in Wikipedia, but it's a good jump point to reading more into a given subject.
So sad, I was very excited about this one too - it had a lot of promise. But as usual Mr. Von Daniken disappoints.
Complete and utter nonsense. You want to see the dropa people? Go to Tibet. You will find entirely normal, sturdily built herders. The only pictures of these disks were actually pictures of Bi disks that are common throughout China.[attachmentid=22778]
Supposedly a picture of Dropa skeleton/mummy:
and another:
Or are they remains of under-nourished children?
and another:
Or are they remains of under-nourished children?
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Supposedly a picture of Dropa skeleton/mummy:
and another:
Or are they remains of under-nourished children?
I believe you're wrong. I think one of those is one of two babies found with King Tut http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/tutchildren.htm
Any why would under-nourished children be funny?
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