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Stalker
http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate.html

And then, a different guy: http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate2.html

Still in the process of reading. So far, its been rather interestingly stupid.
Megalomania
Jeez..... that was stupid....

"Omg all dino bones are planted fakes" Come on rolleyes.gif
divine_mockery
haha.. who would have enough spare time to
stick a bunch of bones in the ground? tongue.gif
final flight
Some people should not be allowed to post on the internet, in fact take away their computers.
frogfish
Infact, we should jail those idiots...they're a menace to society...

A old greek saying, "If you stupid enough to fall of the mountain, humanity can thrive without you," Another reason there are no hand railings in Greece (Parthenon, etc.)
Pyxis
I feel dumber for having read that. no.gif
Bahamut_0
Are this people for real?
BigDaddy_GFS
Sorry, but that's too much stupidity to handle in one session.
I feel a migraine coming on.
Stalker
Well, I just gave up on the first one. Will read the second one, I suppose. Hope its funnier.
*EnIgMa*
Is this what mankind has come to? Making absolutely absurd claims? UFO and Aliens are one thing, but when you say dinosaurs didn't really exist, or were a hoax...It has gone way too far...
Kryso
Some people have just to much time on their hands. And have been hit on the head to many times as a child! grin2.gif
Concepts
I suppose taht guy would say Dragons and Griffens were myths also.....what lunacy!!!
Guardsman Bass
It's truly amazing, the depths to which certain members of the human race will descend in terms of intellectual understanding to cling to their cherished beliefs.
Captain_Geek
QUOTE(Stalker @ Jan 24 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1034576[/snapback]

http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate.html

And then, a different guy: http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate2.html

Still in the process of reading. So far, its been rather interestingly stupid.


Oh my Goddess!!!!! This man is monumentally stupid. I hope he is not in any position of authority over the teaching of anything.

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Glacies
Wait..wait, my brain has liquified, it is running down my nekc, qwik gett a tabelspoone! wacko.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
Oh come on even I believe dinosaurs existed. That is dumb.

In fact, there is Enoch evidence to prove it. grin2.gif
teapot2432
I would like to know 1 person that has dug 10-50 feet to plant a fake bone so someone else can go and dig that 10-50 feet to unbury it. I think it is time for the white coats to come in and take him away.
Essan
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Given the small number of paleontologists in the world (less than 0.0000001% of the world's population) it is highly unlikely, improbable, surprising and remarkable that there should have been any discoveries by "paleontologists" at all!


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draconic chronicler
Actually, more paleontological discoveries are made by private "hobbyists" than the pros. A good example is Britain's most famous dinosaur, the Baryonyx.
mnwolfman
So dinosaur bones are planted fakes, eh? Perhaps this person read "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and thought it was non-fiction.
killer preacher
Anyone seen Bill Hicks?

"Get this, I actually asked one of these guys, OK, Dinosaurs fossils - how does that fit into you scheme of life? Let me sit down and strap in. He said, "Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith." Thank God I'm strapped in right now here man. I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude. You believe that? "uh huh." Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God.. might be.. f*****' with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: "Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha." [mimes God burying fossils] "I am God, I am a prankster." "I am killing Me." You know, You die and go to St. Peter... "Did you believe in dinosaurs?" "Well, yeah. There was fossils everywhere" Thuh [trapdoor opens] "Aaaaaaarhhh!" "You f***** idiot." "Flying lizards, you're a moron. God was f*****' with you!" "It seemed so plausible, ahhhh!" "Enjoy the lake of fire, f***er!" "
Captain_Geek
QUOTE(killer preacher @ Jan 31 2006, 05:24 AM) [snapback]1042459[/snapback]

Anyone seen Bill Hicks?

"Get this, I actually asked one of these guys, OK, Dinosaurs fossils - how does that fit into you scheme of life? Let me sit down and strap in. He said, "Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith." Thank God I'm strapped in right now here man. I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude. You believe that? "uh huh." Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God.. might be.. f*****' with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: "Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha." [mimes God burying fossils] "I am God, I am a prankster." "I am killing Me." You know, You die and go to St. Peter... "Did you believe in dinosaurs?" "Well, yeah. There was fossils everywhere" Thuh [trapdoor opens] "Aaaaaaarhhh!" "You f***** idiot." "Flying lizards, you're a moron. God was f*****' with you!" "It seemed so plausible, ahhhh!" "Enjoy the lake of fire, f***er!" "


Oh that is HILARIOUS.

You know, the more people talk about how God is doing all this stuff to test faith or to punish us for not worshipping Him or whatever, the more they portray God as the same childish insecure entity that populates so many mythologies.

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lkayn
If Dinosaurs did not exist, can he tell us what did?
psyche101
All I can think to say to this whacko is
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psyche101
How good is this

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IMHO the fact that there is a 200 year-old theory claiming that oversized dug-up bones belonged to an extinct species of oddly proportioned bird-lizards, who lived 150 million years ago and became extinct 65 million years ago - only goes to show just how guliable society is.


Yeah, it is a great deal more likely that half the entire planet has been in cohoots for the last 200 years to fool the other half.

Hehehe, this gut is nutz, bloody funny too. wacko.gif
lkayn
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Feb 3 2006, 12:28 AM) [snapback]1046509[/snapback]

How good is this
Yeah, it is a great deal more likely that half the entire planet has been in cohoots for the last 200 years to fool the other half.

Hehehe, this gut is nutz, bloody funny too. wacko.gif


Why the hell would half the world want to play a practical joke on the other half? Honestly. It would be a bit hard without someone finding out, thinking of how many people travel to other parts of the world each day.
Conspiracy
i bet hes christian.. cuz isnt it only christians or something that believe dinos never existed?
newbloodmoon
To each their own I suppose. Helps keep the debate alive, believers and non believers. If that person wishes to float his own theories out there then that's his perogotive. Whether it is an intelligent theory of course is another thing.
Carajbu
-_- Oh those Christians.

Yeah and if the amatuers gave their discoveries to the professional palentologists to evaluate, don't you think they would know if they're CHICKEN BONES or not?
Pax Unum
what an extreme hoax... considering

China – reference to “dragon bones” about 300 B.C.E.

Central Asia – legend of the griffin may be based on Protoceratops

North America – Indians living in western areas underlain by Mesozoic sedimentary rocks explained dinosaur bones as the remains of former animals

SW Africa – cave paintings of animals making dinosaur tracks

Chapter 4 – History of Dinosaur Studies

Bigfoot_Is_Real
blink.gif wow and i though consipracy theroies didn't get wackier than Hollow Earth
dnb420
Thats what happens when crazy Christians start posting on the internet.
lkayn
I'm a christian who believes in these things...So I wouldn't be saying all christians don't believe in this stuff...
draconic chronicler
Yep these guys are Christians that don't believe in dinos because it doesn't say dinos in the bible. But for those people who believe evolution and a belief in the Biblical God can be compatible, there definately are dinos in the bible. They are called Tannin in the Bible a word that means "great monsters" and according to Genesis, were created after the fish and before birds and mammals which is quite an extraordiary insight for something written 2500 years ago.

What makes this seem incompatible with real earth history though is that these Tannin actually live on into the historical period according to the Bible. But what these people do not undertand is that Tannin can be the dinosaurs which in fact died out 65 million years ago, or "dragons", which are heavenly supernatural creatures also known as Seraphim, which are now often confused with improbable, winged humanoid "angels".

If we accept the Bible as true regarding heavenly ceatures however, we still see a compatibility with evolution and a long creation. For these Seraphim, (which means a winged reptile) are also considered the highest/most senior heavenly creatures. Therefore, if there is a "God" we can imagine him selecting some kind of pterosaur or dinosaur to improve to become the first servant creatures over 100 million years ago, and the more familiar, human like angels (none of which have wings in the Bible), would not come on the seen until the evoultion of true, modern humans in the last few hundred thousand years.

Most Christian fundamentalists do not understand enough of the bible to perceive these things, so one of their camps merely states that dino fossils are fakes to test and deceive us, and the other states dinos lived along with people until Noahs flood killed most of them, but even here, because "dragons" are mentioned many times in the Bible after the flood, they assume Noah put dinosaurs on the ark also! This is why many of these people are ardently into cryptozoology, because they believe if a lost dino is found, it will validate the Bible. If they researched the "dragons" in the bible more carefully though, they would discover that they are heavenly creatures and not simply giant, wild animals. Scriptures refer to them residing in Heaven, being sent to devour sinners or threaten prophets, burn wicked cities, etc. It is strange as well, that these same creatures have been believed in by virtually every human culture for thousands of years.
ShaunZero
I've been in on it. No joke, guys. Dinosaur bones are not real. They are MADE. I can't tell you how though.
Pyxis
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Feb 10 2006, 09:29 AM) [snapback]1056612[/snapback]

I've been in on it. No joke, guys. Dinosaur bones are not real. They are MADE. I can't tell you how though.


Yeah and Walt Disney's on ice under Cinderella's Castle. rolleyes.gif
Master Sage
QUOTE(Pyxis @ Jan 25 2006, 08:34 AM) [snapback]1035237[/snapback]

I feel dumber for having read that. no.gif


I feel smarter. rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif

QUOTE(Guardsman Bass @ Jan 26 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1036985[/snapback]

It's truly amazing, the depths to which certain members of the human race will descend in terms of intellectual understanding to cling to their cherished beliefs.


I'm with u 100%


QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Feb 4 2006, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1048775[/snapback]

i bet hes christian.. cuz isnt it only christians or something that believe dinos never existed?



QUOTE(dnb420 @ Feb 7 2006, 10:38 PM) [snapback]1052893[/snapback]

Thats what happens when crazy Christians start posting on the internet.


That is so true!
Mai Ke Lau
So Sorry, but in China dinosaurs are accepted as real. They are called Da Lung.
Rykster
This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. This is why I get upset about the religious. They want to believe in a higher power they cannot prove, yet think that millions of fossils (physical evidence)are fabricated.
I just don't get it. blink.gif
Lilly
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 13 2006, 08:49 PM) [snapback]1060235[/snapback]
.... They want to believe in a higher power they cannot prove, yet think that millions of fossils (physical evidence)are fabricated.
I just don't get it. blink.gif


This is what happens when one places belief above empirical evidence...it's not *pretty*.
Captain_Geek
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Feb 10 2006, 07:05 AM) [snapback]1056571[/snapback]

Yep these guys are Christians that don't believe in dinos because it doesn't say dinos in the bible. But for those people who believe evolution and a belief in the Biblical God can be compatible, there definately are dinos in the bible. They are called Tannin in the Bible a word that means "great monsters" and according to Genesis, were created after the fish and before birds and mammals which is quite an extraordiary insight for something written 2500 years ago.

What makes this seem incompatible with real earth history though is that these Tannin actually live on into the historical period according to the Bible. But what these people do not undertand is that Tannin can be the dinosaurs which in fact died out 65 million years ago, or "dragons", which are heavenly supernatural creatures also known as Seraphim, which are now often confused with improbable, winged humanoid "angels".

If we accept the Bible as true regarding heavenly ceatures however, we still see a compatibility with evolution and a long creation. For these Seraphim, (which means a winged reptile) are also considered the highest/most senior heavenly creatures. Therefore, if there is a "God" we can imagine him selecting some kind of pterosaur or dinosaur to improve to become the first servant creatures over 100 million years ago, and the more familiar, human like angels (none of which have wings in the Bible), would not come on the seen until the evoultion of true, modern humans in the last few hundred thousand years.

Most Christian fundamentalists do not understand enough of the bible to perceive these things, so one of their camps merely states that dino fossils are fakes to test and deceive us, and the other states dinos lived along with people until Noahs flood killed most of them, but even here, because "dragons" are mentioned many times in the Bible after the flood, they assume Noah put dinosaurs on the ark also! This is why many of these people are ardently into cryptozoology, because they believe if a lost dino is found, it will validate the Bible. If they researched the "dragons" in the bible more carefully though, they would discover that they are heavenly creatures and not simply giant, wild animals. Scriptures refer to them residing in Heaven, being sent to devour sinners or threaten prophets, burn wicked cities, etc. It is strange as well, that these same creatures have been believed in by virtually every human culture for thousands of years.



Out of curiosity, can you site chapter and verse? I am very intrigued by this. I may even get a bible to look it up myself. cool.gif
snuffypuffer
That's it exactly! God's just yanking our chain, man! Come on folks! You didn't really think there was such a thing as dinosaurs, did you? I mean, it's just freaking PREPOSTEROUS! I mean, really...how obvious do we have to make it?
Chokmah
silly man, everyone knows dinosaurs were planted by the devil, pssshhh. laugh.gif

that man is pathetic... how can he actually beleive what hes saying, and not laugh!?
Master Sage
Poor soul
Anicius Boethius
I don't get why people always run to the Bible to prove the existence or nonexistence of things. Kangaroos aren't mentioned in the Bible, yet they obviously exist!
Chokmah
QUOTE(Anicius Boethius @ Mar 3 2006, 12:14 AM) [snapback]1087610[/snapback]

I don't get why people always run to the Bible to prove the existence or nonexistence of things. Kangaroos aren't mentioned in the Bible, yet they obviously exist!


thats because the devil put them there, psshhtttt laugh.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
Waspie_Dwarf
Personally I think the Bible is a hoax. The dinosaurs wrote it so that we wouldn't realise that they are actually alive and well and living in the Amazon rain forest.
PadawanOsswe
QUOTE(Stalker @ Jan 24 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1034576[/snapback]

http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate.html

And then, a different guy: http://coldfusionvideo.com/goodies/dinodebate2.html

Still in the process of reading. So far, its been rather interestingly stupid.


if you wish to debate the existence of dinosaurs within The Bible. while this quote doesnt neccessarily mean dinosaur, it is the possible subject.

"Behold now behemoth,which I created with thee."-Job 40:15

also check out quotes about "dragons" in The Bible


Psalms 74:13

91:13

148:7

Isa. 43:20
Kahrie
That theory is just soooo rediculious(sp) yes.gif grin2.gif
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