i've experienced borderline astral projection 4 times last year..2 times i got jolted out of my sleep, and the other 2 times i was on the train to school and i started to fall asleep then i jolted awake. lol..after reading this topic imma attempt ur technique tonight. wish me luck.

Tell me your results. Maybe I'll be less skeptical.

In all honesty, as much as this goes against my beliefs, I have considered trying it. It does seem like an interesting thing to do.

I just read this whole thread. Very intriguing. I'll try it tonight. So, you say you have to have a purpose to stay in the astral realm? Hmm...I would like to have one last conversation with my deceased grandfather, if that's possible...

Awesome thread, man!

--Jon

Oh my god, last night I attempted your technique and modified it a little, and the strangest thing happened to me.

I was lying in bed. 12 midnight. I closed my eyes and hugged my bolster and remained still. I begin to form an image in my mind, I imagined I was as light as a feather and that my astral form was hovering above my physical body. I was wide awake, not even in the hypnogogic state yet. I focused on the image as hard as I could while I relaxed my entire body. Then weird things happened seconds later.

First, I heard 3 types of sounds:
1) A popping sound beside my left ear, as if a balloon had burst.
2) Scuttling sounds, like many insectoid legs moving across the marble floor.
3) A piano being played. The sound i heard was always the same tune, and increased in frequency the harder i thought about trying to astral project. (But who the hell would be playing the piano late at night? The sound came from everywhere!)

Next, I began to feel my entire body trembling, as if I were shivering. Then, the vibrations assaulted me and my body shook. I could hear voices all about me, but none were calling me name. I did not understand them. Then I felt a force shove me right back down into my pillow and I opened my eyes. (I was wide awake during this entire experience, so I couldnt have been dreaming).

It didnt take alot of effort to attempt to project, though it being my first time doing it intentionally. But it scared the hell out of me. Tonight I will do it again. By the way, last night after that first experience i tried unsuccessfuly a few more times to project but i wasnt able to.
Oh, and I felt as if I had entered an entirely new realm during that brief experience.

I've been interested in astral travel for a while
now, but i've never known how to do it.
I'm going to try your technique tomorrow and
see how it goes.

thanks for sharing

Congratulations! Sounds like you're a natural. The sounds you heard were probably from the astral plane. Keep at it!

Hey all,

well, I'm off on a two-day vacation. I can't tell you how pleased I am to see your enthusiasm in both astral travel and my technique. Some of you have already achieved great results. Keep it up, and I'll be back to answer to questions and comments again in two days.

Don't let my absense hinder this thread. It seems some of you already know alot about astral travel. Chat amongst yoursevles untill I return.

Goodbye for now

Say Socrates, you've done a great service by generating such enthusiasm about astral projection. Way to go, brother.

Your technique is interesting. Different from the one that I was taught in the Seventh Degree of the Rosicrucian Order, AMORC. www.rosicrucian.org But, whatever works! That is the main thing. It takes about four years to get to the 7th Degree where psychic projection is taught in AMORC. Of course, many other traditional initiatic organizations teach similar techniques.

Also, there are the Gateway Experience "hemi-sync" CDs put out by the Monroe Institute if anyone's interested.

I hope that you'll keep the enthusiasm going. Astral projection has long been taught as a tool of spiritual awakening ... and some of you are seeing for the first time what that's all about.

With all best wishes for Peace Profound,
Frater Rosencruez

One question to Yel. How do you know you were astral projecting, and not just dreaming, or halucinating? You said you did it on accident.

Good question. Well usually when I'm dreaming I'm asleep.
On a serious note, I felt the usual "symptoms" prior to astral projecting which would lead me to believe that that was what happened.

But what if those symptons are just symptons of your mind going into a certain state wich makes you halucinate. ....

Oh my God, what happened to me. I've become a bit of a sketpic. Heh... not but seriously, I'm just trying to get as much information on it as possible. I truly want to try this, but I can't for 2 reasons:

1) I'm scared.
2) I'm skeptical.


What happened in your experience?

I was wide awake, remember? I couldn't have been dreaming thats for sure..

Same here. I seriously doubt I was hallucinating. It wasn't late at night or anything. And some of that is erm...personal
It's good to be skeptical btw.

Of course, we don't blame you for being skeptical, because you've not tried and succeeded. But once you've done it, you'll be an instant believer...

I know it's good to be a skeptic, but just to a certain extent. Most "mainstream" skeptics are TOO skeptical to the point where they're close minded in my opinion. Even if there's no proof of something, never say it doesn't exist.





Never say never.



How exactly do you go back into your body?


I heard you can astral travel via orgasm. I bet I could accomplish that one!

Some of the astral projection symptoms I have experienced are sometimes pretty intense. I have only attempted astral projection about 3 times and had only these similar results. First I picture a cloud like figure hovering above me with a slight resemblance to me. I visualize it pulling me towards it like a magnet and eventually I try to imagine myself looking down upon my body through the imaginary eyes of the cloud like hovering figure. This is when I start to feel the weird sometimes intense sensations. I get into as deep of a relaxation as I can, then I start feelinga little tingly and numb. It seems like the more I visualize myself astral projecting, the more intense my symptoms become. This may sound kind of freaky, but my eyes actually start to twitch as I visualize astral projection, then I feel almost uncontrollable muscle contractions occuring around my face and eyes (eyes closed). My ears start feeling all weird and I hear and feel weird things around my ears. While this is all going on my heart rate starts to speed up uncontrollably fast to the point where I just feel I have to stop my concentration and open my eyes. This sounds odd and all, but after about almost 2 min in deep concentration with all these symptoms, I thought I started to see a white glowing light forming, with my eyes closed of course.

I have read that astral projection works best and easiest when you are in a trance-like state and often requires a stronger "Chakra" to give us enough "energy" to astral project. There are plenty of good astral projection sites to google that give pretty detailed info on this. I have not yet succesfully astral projected, but I dont plan on giving up yet.

sometimes, even with my eyes closed, i see figures moving about me, and no, they aren't neural discharges..and i hear the voices, so distant yet to clear...but i dont understand their words..i've been in the astral realm although i've never projected, but i hear the noises that projectors usually hear..i dont think these figures notice me because i've not projected yet. i've attempted this twice..im doing it again tonight..i believe one day, with enough effort, i will get out of this mortal shell.

If you read one of the experiences posted they said that they could feel themself fading cause they didn't have a purpose in the astral plane and went back to their body.I think that's one way.

Ya or you just think of your body and returning to it and whatever. Thats the most common way i've heard, another is to just think you wanna wake up.

Spikester2488, a few nights ago after reading about Astral Projection for the first time on here i attempted it myself, ive not been successful yet, i had got some of the details slightly wrong, but i followed the general idea, i noticed that you mentioned your eyes twitching and uncontrollable muscle contractions in your face, i got exactly this, and this was my very first attempt.
But im wondering if that is supposed to happen, or was i tensing myself and creating the twitching, thats one of the things i got wrong as i did not try and get as relaxed as i could but i was concentrating very hard.
After reading more on here last night i tried it again, making sure i was relaxed as possible and that my eyes were closed but i just couldn't concentrate as well, im a patient type of person so im interested in studying this properly and practicing techniques and believe in it and i believe in time that il succeed with it, is it necessary to be always near falling asleep? ive attempted it twice but not doing the getting up at 4:00am thing.
One thing i did do was i actually woke up at around 5:00 this morning ( still had a few more hours of sleep left before i was getting up ) so i decided to try it at around this time, but no success.
Well im going to keep this up and get right into it properly.

I'm back everyone

Hey expression,

Well done for trying, and for staying persistent having not yet projected. The 'muscle contractions' in your face are normal for beginners. When I first began, I felt them frequently around my eyelids.

You should consider the four in the morning technique if you are having trouble relaxing. If you try to project at four in the morning, your mind will be groggy and tired, so you will find it much easier to relax your mind. My mind used to wander alot as well. You will find that if you try to clear your head every night before sleeping, you will get very good at it.

I'm pleased to hear you are interested in projecting, and even more pleased to hear you're going to keep at it.

Any more queries are very welcome,

Socrates

If the conscious is seperate from the body, why if you have head trauma you can become unconcsious. What happens to your concsiousness?

And there I was, thinking I need to develop my chakras before I can astral travel.. So anybody with enough determination can alstral project with your technique?

Do you know any alternative method to the 4 am technique? (I could only do that one day in a week)

Try this:

Imagine a ball (any color that relaxes u) infront of your forehead, about 2 metres away. Focus on this ball with your eyes closed as it moves farther and farther away. Soon you'll feel yourself slip into a trance-like state where all your thoughts will vanish and the only thing that stays in ur mind would be the ball. Using my technique, you'll be able to enter the hypnagogic state much quicker.

Your help has been excellent so far Socrates and it's gotten me a long way, but a few things are still holding me back from doing this fully. I've got a few questions on technique.

When you are attempting to project, should you keep your eyes closed or open? Night, before bed, is a bad time to attempt for me because if I close my eyes, I'm asleep. If I keep my eyes open it's hard to relax and I still usually end up falling asleep. In the day time when I have tried it there hasn't been the best area for relaxation, but I will attempt again today. I know you are supposed to visualize, but without seeing something it get's fairly difficult.

Also, a few nights ago when I was attempting it I gave in from exhaustion. When I was falling asleep [While constantly thinking about] and I was in the state between sleep and awake, my vision blacked out [I was looking at a wool blanket and my window] and instead of being able to see the blanket and the window instead there was a very deep darkness and golden light from the blinds. When I realized how strange this was I snapped out of it.

u mean u projected??

I'm not entirely sure. I have in the past but it was not self-induced or willing, nor pleasing for that matter. That is why I'm asking Socrates if this was some sort of projection, because I can mimic what I did again.

Hello Socrates, thanks for starting this thread, yeah at the moment my mind wanders a lot when im trying it and i know that will get in the way, i tried again last night, i do manage about 3 times each night to eventually become quite focused but ive also realised how easy it is for your mind to wonder onto something else almost immediately, last night i was getting a sensation of almost being able to hear a pulse in my ears, at least it seemed that way i believe.

Yeah basically im willing to put in the effort to learn techniques as best as i can and il stck with the routine.

Socrates, out of curiosity, is there a suggested limit of the amount of times that someone who can successfully Astral Project, should stick to? like maybe only a few times a week or only once maybe?
I read here that it said to wait about 24 hours after your first success before attempting again, and wondered if you recommend not doing it too many times, or if it dosn't matter how many times?

You may experience one or more of the following sensations:

- Floating
- Sinking
- Vibrations
- A bright white/blue light
- A rushing or popping sound
- Starnge noises; someone calling your name
- A jolt


oh thank god i get bombarded by millions of people saying my name wen i'm going to sleep all my friends thort i was weird for it but now i kno bout it + the floattness happened once or twice

Being a rather open sceptic, I decided to give this a go last night.


So, I cleared my mind, and got into bed, trying to "will" myself to project. But, I kept getting really freaked out and paranoid, so I just stopped.


Any thoughts?

It sounds like you were starting to feel relaxed, you were letting go of all tension from your body and mind. You shouldn't have stopped.

Alright, thanks.

I'll keep that in mind for tonight

THAT IS EXACTLY ME!! I'm being an open skeptic, but everytime I try I get freaked out and quit. =/

Try this:

Imagine a ball (any color that relaxes u) infront of your forehead, about 2 metres away. Focus on this ball with your eyes closed as it moves farther and farther away. Soon you'll feel yourself slip into a trance-like state where all your thoughts will vanish and the only thing that stays in ur mind would be the ball. Using my technique, you'll be able to enter the hypnagogic state much quicker, and your mind will not wander. Sometimes you can even enter the vibrational stage with this.

very, VERY interesting topic here, not like all the other psychic threads which only tell a mybe or a might, this one actually showed results, people by my view have gotten success out of this, im greatly interested...

Im going to try this... maybe on the weekends.

Ok and i have a question, a few days ago on my ride to a mall, i was falling asleep, ( i was VERY tired i didnt get any sleep the night before) my eyes half closed with NO twitching, suddenly all my loud friends in the car fell dead silent, i felt somekind of sensation, but not like ive read here, its like i immedeatly got out of my body and "glided" to the back seats, i saw my friend, talking, but with no sound, then its like a "snap" and everythings back the way it was...

So any info on that?

Somewhere on this Metaphysical section, someone posted a link to the program called Virtual Hypno. It's a rather cheesy computer program, but I can't express how well it works. About 6 months ago when I had it installed I did one of the self-hypnosis settings and by just listening to the sound of the character's voice, your mind is highly distracted and only wants to listen to the voice and work with the soothing music. I got put in a very deep trance, until my entire body was numb and stiff, and it was difficult to move my muscles.

It's a rather scary program if you believe it's some sort of mind control. I don't know the exact website, but I have the install file on my hard drive and you can search for the program on Sourceforge.net, HERE

Never attempted to project with it, but it seems like a very reasonable option. As a side note, relaxing music such as Ambience can really calm you down. I'm working on a private series of songs for myself and people that would like me to send them the songs, all dealing with relaxing. If you would like more info on these relaxing songs in progress, please send me a PM for further details.

I tried it last night.
As soon as I began to fall asleep, I felt myself vibrating.
A I was vibrating, I heard popping and rushing noises.

Then I opened my eyes.
I'm going to try it again this Friday, and see if I can
go the whole way.

I've found the link to the hypnosis program listed above. Sorry for any inconvenience. Here

I totally did this once when I was a little girl - I was thinking about flying through the clouds at night right before i fell asleep. I dreamt that I was doing just that - it was so real, i felt the moisture of the clouds on my skin. I woke up to a sound like someone opening a tin can and i felt as if i was simply dropped into my bed. I was in my sheets but they were very cool as if i had just hopped in as some cool air had blown through my sheets - but my body had been there all night. I sat up and thought about it deeply so I would never forget it, it was one of the best experiences of my life

Well i guess ill put my 2 cents in. How is any of this different from Lucid Dreaming. Now I just recently found out about lucid dreaming 6 months ago but ive been having them since i was a kid. Most of this stuff(OBE, Astral Projection, Levitation..) all seems to coincide with Lucid Dreaming. How is going into a meditative state(basically dreaming) and seeing yourself fly around ANY different then going Lucid. I just really dont understand how someone who knows what and how lucid dreams work could not see all of these visions or whatever people claim to have are just plain old lucid dreams.
Lucid Dream= vivid, CONSCIENCE and in control(well, with some work)
When ever I read about peoples experiences with any of this it all seems like people are trying to repackage lucid dreams.

I mean do you really think your projecting your (whatever?) out into space or is it more probable that your having a lucid dream?
cmon people....are you leaving your body...or are you dreaming....

From what I've been hearing in this thread, it is apparent you are awake physically while a lucid dream can only mimic the awake state. When projecting it seems like you can also witness real-time events taking place around you and out of the range of your senses, which is impossible with lucid dreaming. This is why some people think the government has a training program of remote viewing, because you would be able to project yourself into any building in the world and investigate what they are doing without physically being there.

Also, when you lucid dream, you do not experience any of the "symptoms" associated with astral travel. This would mean you're either projecting, or your body has some built in system that when a certain point of whatever is reached, it will act in an illogical fashion. The 2nd answer doesn't seem to make much sense.

The government actualy DID have Astral Projectors work for them. Not anymore though.

Thought I'd bump this up...

Socrates, have you heard of phasing? Has anyone else ... ?

What is phasing socrates?

this is a interesting topic

Coordinate Remote Viewing does not involve astral projection.

wow i just read all 10 pages of this!! i have tried astral projeection before and i got to the stage where i was almost there....but i got really scarec and stopped the next day i was so mad at myself!! lol! im going to try you technique tonight though and see if it has better results because since the time i got scared i havnt been able to get to any sort of groggy heavy stage apart from when i sleep! Well im going to try tonight and i will let yall no how it goes lol! xx

kewl techniques but i personaly think each person has a different style depending on how strong faith and power is
does anyone agree?

When I have a lucid dream I just get out of my body. It's easiest when you have a lucid dream. Also if you just lay still in bed and your body will fall asleep but your mind is awake. But you must not move, it ruins it if you do, it's difficult, but fun.