Actually, RedFFWolf mentioned that pill already.
Look here:http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=90322

Tnx for pointing this out for me
I still wanna know if someone tried it and got any results tho since im going to try this if i get the chanse

Hmm...You might want to read up on it a little more.It's not exactly safe to buy and use a pill you don't know much about

Hmm... i know.. but it dont sound that dangerous and the fact that its not illegal should mean it wont do you serious harm.

Also i have bin reading a little about it and i found this:

Q: Is Magneurol6-S™ harmful?
A: We speculate according to our own research that extensive cellular phone use, which already may pose problems, may either present a problem for some or amplify awareness of a cellular phones effects. Research indicates that they "may" be harmful to our brains because of the radiation emitted and the proximity of the phone to our brains. When using Magneurol6-S™ several people have reported that they can "feel" the radiation, or something like it, emanating from the phone where they could not do so before. When we consider that these signals are always emanating it is fair to speculate that Magneurol6-S™ is simply making us more aware of these effects that were present before.

But i guess i still wanna know if this really works... If i decide to try this il keep you guys updated tho

You might want to see this before you try it:

Is Magneurol Real?

Do an internet search and you may find other sites with people who have actually tried it, and not just accounts from the company itself.

I'll definitly have to give that technique a try. I tried so many differnt ways of Astral Traveling, and I've never been able to manage it.

Interesting link.. i tried to search and i did read some other sites tho with people claiming it works and others claiming it dont work so i guess we cant be sure if it works unless we try it.. Anyway il search some more, i dont want to try if i find out there is some real danger to it.. but as long as i know it wont get me seriously hurt i think im gonna be okay, anyway i cant try it yet so il get some time to read and think about it for now

EDIT: By the way if anyone is interested i can post a link to that 82mb 1 hour long AP sound track as i uploaded it to my account on some page

OMG I THINK I ALMOST PROJECTED!! sry for the double post tho.

It started out as a normal dream then after a little i realized it was a dream and i started thinking what i wanted to do and it worked so after a little more of the dream i trarted thinking i could try AP so i started thinking i was flying up and then suddenly i feel vibrations coming more and more but i tried not to think about it then i felt like i was moving to the side (while knowing where i was in bed) and i got scared so i tried to wake up by trying to move then i opend my eyes a little (guess this was my real eyes) and the vibrations stoped, i could still feel something was wrong tho so i moved my arm (this is what freaked me out) i could feel my arm moving and being in front of me BUT I COULD NOT SEE IT!!! then i could not move at all before everything got normal.

I know this was not a dream since i was awake and i was seeing throu my normal eyes while most of this happend, i mean i did not close my eyes or get a jolt or anything from the part where my arm moved that i could not see to the part where i got out of bed normal.

Oh and btw i listened to the hole 1 hour track of Hemi-Sync - Waves Of Light - Alpha To Theta - Adventures Beyond The Body - Brian Paulson-William Buhlman before i went to sleep (i did cuz i thought it was relaxing lol) so anyway thought i would let u know, i belive this has something to do with it


whats your thoughts? please respond i really need some answers!

Awesome! Good work! For me,I can get to the vibrational stage immediately after I clear my mind but I never get any further than that.
I'll just have to keep on trying though,

By the way,I would definently like to try that hour long track also!

Well here you go: (well since i cant get my link to work il post the one uloaded by RedFFWolf hope he dont mind) MEGAUPLOAD DOWNLOAD

and this is the first time i could actually feel it like this, it was weird when i moved my arm but could not see it but i guess it have to do with me listening to the song before bed (also i didnt go to bed before like 5:30 in the morning )

btw tell me if the link works or il reupload

Can i fly hours of hours? or something? or is it like if i i fly 1 minute it will be 1 hour? What i am trying to say is that does the time go faster in the astral plane? Because i have school at 8 o'clock and if i go up 4 and put water and stuff will i be able to astral plane in 4 hours?

I want to know this too, i have always guessed it would be pretty much real time since you can watch other people talk and do stuff and later tell them about it but im not sure...
And it probably wont work perfect first time you try this it needs practice.

Ok, Im not sure what it is but it is like a half-AP and a half-something. There are 2 Astral Planes. A lower and a higher.Lower: everything is fuzzy, not sure where you are, feelings of hatred, jealousy, and so on. Higher: everything is NOT fuzzy, feeling comfortable, feeling of love and so on. Im not sure, but this might help you out.

Tell me if anything new happens,
The Unexplained

We AP during our dream cycle, which is only 3 or 4 hours long ( cant remember). And the time is the same as in the real world. Every dream youve ever had was a AP. Dont you ever think the dream was so real? Dont you ever feel the dream? It might sound impossible, but its true.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

I don't mind at all. Does this mean that anyone else can get this file without me having to send the file over and over again? That would be great. Good to see it worked for you. I should try it again but I get too tired. I only managed to cop on the way to astral project while listening to a podcast on it. "Once you conscious is still awake but your body is asleep, you will astrally project" so the guy said. So the 'rope climbing' technique keeps your mind conscious as you drift asleep and once you fall asleep with an your conscious awake, you should astrally project but I'd say you'd have to have astral projection as a purpose. I'm glad I understand more and hopefully this helps others too.

Yeah it means people can push the link i posted and download the track

Also it seems i cant fall asleep while trying to keep my mind thinking on something.. dunno why it just wont work
And when i almost APed (today) was when i were about to wake up, i know cuz i could see light coming in from my window when i opened my eyes.. but it was weird cuz i had a really weird feeling and when i moved my arm i could not see it and when everything went to normal i could not move for maybe 10 seconds, also i noticed the dream i had felt verry real in some way.. and the vibrations came the second i thought of flying..

That's good. It took me two hours sending it to you so a download would be much quicker for this. Saves me a bit. Hope brandon1499 knows this. Anyway, I should listen to it again tonight. I have a 'once in a week' free room to myself. I think it just triggers the brainwaves to a nice relaxing state which clears your mind. Even if it's just the minds belief that it does work, is still enough to help induce astral projection. (Cause that applies for alot of different things.)

Hmm.. i listened to the whole track while in front of my computer lol 30 minutes after it finished i went to bed, but it was about 5:30 in the morning tho so it might have to do with that..
Anyway i dunno if i could fall asleep with the track on tho cuz i dont like sleeping with headphones... But the song was verry relaxing tho i think it will help me and probably others in the future so tnx once again

Il try AP tonight tho.. or.. more like il try get a dream i can control and il try the same i did last night.

Relating to Sephiroth's comments about music, here is a program I've used before to go into a hypnotic trance. It worked for me on my second attempt, you must simply keep an open mind. It's interesting to get used to, but it seems to work. There are music and visuals, and for me it put me in a trance for about an hour and a half to nearly two hours, and it felt like fifteen minutes.

Virtual Hypnotist

Yeah i tried that program once before but i didnt quite understand all of it...
Question: How does it really work? Is it like you go into a trance and you cant wake up before its over? Or someone needs to wake you up? Or can you wake up at any time? I think il download and try this again tho, Sounds interesting and tnx for the site again

Btw i have a really open mind so thats not gonna be a problem

Is there a Mac OS version of this software or any other software as good but for Mac OS? Thanks for supplying a link though. I will check it out when I have access to a PC.

Hi there.

I was just doing a google search on astral travelling and came across this thread. I have read most of it, but I wondered if anyone knows what I can do to progress further.

Firstly I have been having obe's since I was young and they used to scare the life out of me, also when I used to tell people about it they never understood what I was talking about, which scared me even more. In the end I used to know when it was happening and stop it before it took hold.

But a few years ago after getting the internet, I started to research it and realise it was quite common So it make me less fearful and I started to go with the feeling, I also started to see my astral body such as my arms stretched out in front of me. My fingers are quite long in my astral body I have also mastered flying or walking through objects, whereas before I just didn't think to do it as I didn't think I should. Or I thought I would get stuck in the wall or something. lol

Anyway, I absolutely love this feeling of astral travelling. It's such an exillerating experience and I really enjoy it now. But I want to go further in my travels and sometimes find I cant get lift off if you get what i mean For instance, when I am out of my body sometimes I can fly but sometimes I cant. Sometimes I fly up so fast and high and start to panic and sometimes I cant seem to fly atall.

So my question is....Is there a slower way of flying and how do you maintain the speed?

Also my projections are usually randon, but if I listen to a hypnotherapy CD it helps alot and I also have amazing lucid dreams afteer hypnotherapy

Anyway sorry for the hijack

Did someone die or something? i mean why did it become so quiet all of a sudden

Anyway sry elleviss dont have any answers for u im kinda new to this

Hi there,

There are a couple of tricks. Its all about your mind. Put enough willpower into it and you can do anything in the astral world.ANYTHING. For example: if you wish to fly, all you have to do is visualize yourself flying.Not just think it, but actually feel it and visualize it. Or if you think you cant go through a wall; Put enough willpower into it and sooner or later you wont be able to do it. And the speed thing is the same thing; Next time try to visualize the speed as a car, and you will go as fast as a car. And sometimes you dont have control over situations like when you said you fly up really fast, its because deep downinside you wish to go that speed.Hope these tips will help you. GOODLUCK!!!!!!!


P.S: Please Go to the Bermuda Triangle, And see whats up with that place. And tell us what you saw.

OMG i never thought about that you could actually go to area 51 and all of those weird places
NOW i really REALLY have to master this

I have not got any sign of aping the last 2 days after i got that really close ap.... But then again i guess i got it cuz of me going to bed at 5:30 that night
Any thoughts about that? could it be cuz of me staying up this late? only thing i know is i really want to get that feeling again it was so cool and next time i wont be too scared cuz i know whats coming

Also il try again tonight.. not that i ever take a break

The first time i ever heard about AP i started thinking about all these places to go. Wouldn't it be great to walk along a beach at night while nothing can harm you?Or go into a forest and watch all the animals without being seen? Or go to area 51? or just fly really high and do Astral Sky diving, and hit the ground just for the heck of it? i really want to AP.

By the way. In the early days APing was normal. It was so casual they put in the Bible.

It would be so great having a place to go and just relax.. Like a beach or maybe a forest
I really want to ap too.. and i kinda feel i had a chance that i let go.. Anyway im going to keep reading and practice AP till i can do it and i suggest you do the same

Also if you flew up real high and just fell down into the ground i guess you would just wake up with a massive jolt Even tho id probably do that too

EDIT: Ok i have a serious but maybe really weird question... as my phone got stolen... could i find out where it is from AP? lol i guess that was really weird.. but i liked that phone

I have a question i have been astral traveling for
some time now; I always stay in my room though.
My question is: is there a way to astral travel and
then get stuck out of your body permanitly?

Hmm...listened to that 80 mb tape but got nothing(other than being very relaxed)I'll just have to keep on trying though

I think you might be able to retrieve your phone. All you have to do is visualize it and feel it and..... Blah blah. And i feel ive let my once chance go too. Dont you hate that feeling.

You cant get stuck permantly unless your phisical body dies while youre asleep.

No you`re always able to return to your body unless your physical body dies, If you start to fear that while in the astral plane you would probably jolt back in your body immediately. (at leas thats what i heard)


You`re supposed to listen to it while falling asleep i think, I haven't tried while sleeping yet but i think il try it next friday maybe if i wake up at 4 and put some water in my face go back to bed with the track on.. maybe that will work? i dunno but im home alone from friday to saturday so i need as much info i can get

EDIT: sry didnt see your post The Unexplained


Yeah i rly hope i can get my phone back lol, And yeah i really hate that feeling

yay my first post with 3 quotes

I used the track while falling trying to sleep aswell but I got more resulst while listening to my personal choice of music. This is could be becuase the 82MB track keeps my mind bored and I actually can't focus on anything while like that and suddenly, I'm more aware of the pain on my head of my uncomfy pillow or for any other position of my arm. When listening to my own choice of music, I focus my mind on astral travelling and my mind is fully focused on it because of the type of music. (It too is light like the 82MB track but more 'interesting' music.) But I won't be able to fall asleep while listening to music. It used to happen loads of times but not at all when the music is for a purpose.

Didnt mean to post that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ sry

I think i could relax and maby fall asleep to that track but i guess not everyone is comfortable with the same music.. I dont belive i can fall asleep to music anyway but at least il try


Heh no problem

There is something thats REALLY bothering me now... i have this weird feeling that somethings wrong... but i think its just cuz i changed my windows to media center edition... it looks like the normal windows xp but its really anoying cuz i dont know if it works just as good... LOL sry im kinda weird that way

Hi, I havnt read the last 90 pages, so i dont know if someone has brought this up, but i have a paper route so i get up at 5:30,
So i cant really do the bed wake bed thing.

But im wondering if its possible to clear your mind while your laying in bed before u sleep ( im talking about the normal bedtime), and and do the rest of the things like saying to yourself, im going to astral project, and think of yourself across the room.

Any help would be great Thanks

Of course you could try that, but when you wake up at 4 it would be easier to clear your mind i for once cant get up at 4 either... i simply cant wake everyone up with an alarm clock lol so i keep trying when going to bed.

P.S lol i dont go to bed before 4 o clock anyway -.-

Yes sephiroth976 is right. You can try to do it at bedtime. I myself do it at that time. Only problem is- i have way too much to think about. Once i get my body numb, i start to think a lot about tommorow and so on.... It gets me really distracted. But every time i get distracted i nudge myself awake. Every night i always remember nudging myself awake......... but thats the last thing i remember..... Its like someone is trying to make me fail Now im asking you guys for some advice.

There is something thats REALLY bothering me now... i have this weird feeling that somethings wrong... but i think its just cuz i changed my windows to media center edition... it looks like the normal windows xp but its really anoying cuz i dont know if it works just as good... LOL sry im kinda weird that way
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Listen to your hunches. Im not saying anythings wrong....... I just like to feel like we are all psychic


EDIT: Isnt there suppose to be a box around what you said Sephiroth976? Ohhh well

Heh i know what you mean... but about the windows lol it actually works better -.- so anyway.... il try ap tonight to lol cuz im going to school tomorrow..... and im going to bed 4 in the morning (in 1 hour 45 minutes) lol i think i have better chance of AP when my mom wakes me up and im halfe asleep in the morning

LOL didnt see ur other message I think you should try waking up in a dream... i for once know i probably cant train myself to do that lol no way il wake up at night only to whrite down my dreams But if you did read my other post an one of the other sites i almost APed the first and only time i did that ^^ of course it was pure luck i woke up in my dream lol but im trying the 4 o clock thingy soon maby friday to saturday ^^

P.S we`re using this topic like a chat

ANOTHER EDIT: lol for the love of god why cant i whrite all at once i think the best chance of waking up in a dream is when u almost wake up in the morning when ur waking up early and u really want to sleep, thats what im going for tomorrow

The sleeper is as one dead, but the soul lives on in the fullness of its power
- Greek philosepher 2,000 years ago.

My favorite saying. Doesn't it relate to AP.

By the way. If you AP, could you go to the core inside Earth.

Heh thats actually quite interresting, i would guess it probably has some meaning to AP
And yeah you could go anywhere.. i dunno how it would feel to go throu the earth tho

Lol also i feel like im posting to much Sry i just dont have a lot to do on my spear time so im pretty much checking the forum all the time

Thats funny. On this whole page its pretty much me and you posting.

Yeah i know... i have an hour left before going to bed... i really want to wait till 4 cuz i think its the key to AP (for me that is) Even tho it might just be stupid But then again its worth trying if its a possibility it will work

By the way, for anyone reading this, here are some tips:

1. The day you want to AP, try not to eat too much. Stay away from meats.

2. Keep your room warm. ( I think its above room tempature.)

3. Has to be completely quite.

4. Lay on back or right side.

5. And last but not least- Block out any emotions and thoughts other than AP.

This should help the furom.

WOW!!! its only 9:00 here!

Oh i know some too:

1. (this may sound strage but..) No masturbating lol i read that sexual stuff makes it hard if not impossible to AP

2. drink lots of water and natural stuff, not just coke and stuff with a lot of sugger (its bad for u anyway)

Also i need to say i always eat lots of meat and drink lots of coke so now when i think about it i need to stop that when i want to try AP There was something more... but... i kinda forgot...

Also im from norway the time is like.. 3:14 in the morning

Sephiroth, another thing to add to your list is ICE CREAM. I suggest everyone here trying AP or even lucid dreaming eat plenty of ice cream an hour or so before bed. I'm surprisingly not being sarcastic. For me, when I eat the ice cream, my body is loudly and busily digesting as I fall asleep, and so I stay in a light sleep although go through my dream patterns as normal. The benefit is I am not as deep and I can often remember if not try and influence my dreams, much more so than if I was in a regular deep sleep. Everyone likes Ice Cream!

Also, how many of you here have experienced or know what hypnagogia is? I am currently still researching it, but personally I get it all the time with my dreadful sleep pattern as of late. It is a very unique experience and I believe it is a form of AP or very closely related, and can be used to AP at will. I'll wait for your replies before I share more.

Ice cream you say? When i think about it this might be verry true.. Actually when i think back on it i eat lots of ice cream some days.. And i think those days are the days i usually remember my dreams, Seriously tnx for that ima eat LOTS of it tomorrow

And i never heard of hypnagogia it would be great if you posted some info.. But for now im going to bed il check the topic first thing after school tomorow

From what I know of hypnagogia, i've been able to experience it only slightly and only on a few occasions as I recall. I would love to have it more often for the shockingly bizarre visuals...they're inspiring.

I do have some questions w/ my AP attempts, maybe someone could enlighten me.

-Since my very first semi-successful AP attempt, my ears now instantly start ringing each and every time I begin to relax and/or even begin to think about astral projecting. It gets weirder yet. My ears even start to ring when reading about AP, clairvoyance, remote viewing and other related phenomena. Does this happen to anyone else?

-Nearly each night I can always get past the eye-twitching, rushing sounds(they sound like electricity to me)and convulsion stage no problem. But as I feel myself pulled up or ascending, I try and open my eye's hoping to see my sleeping self, the room, ect,...but I nearly always physically just open my eye's and simply awaken on the spot. Am I not allowing for full separation?
I sincerely appreciate any and all info, thanks.