well it is lol we all astral project when we sleep the only thing diffrent from APing is that we are awake when our bodies are asleep.

it`s like when we dream we only see our feelings, emotions, thoughts etc.. becouse we are not awake in the astral but we are still there not knowing it but if you keep your mind awake when falling asleep then you will not see the dream but u will see what is actually happening techniques like the rope technique, ball technique etc.. are just to keep your mind awake so that you can project counciously.

also i belive the etheric plane is higher then the astral

The way I remember the seven planes of existence, and correct me if I'm wrong, were:

1. Physical
2. Astral
3. Etherical
4. Emotional
5. Mental
6. Casual
7. Spiritual

thanks guyz for answering i now have more understanding about them

i thought Emotional, Mental and Casual are under Etheric
well just my thoughts and not sure bout it
well if the above thing is correct it will become clearer

i think the most hard thing to do there is projecting or traveling in spiritual plane

Unless you have close friends who have projected, understand, and can discuss such things with you, you've come to the right place. I wouldn't have believed in such matters myself if it hadn't have happened to me. By the way, congrats on the new baby. Was this your first one?

Your experience was a classic example of spontaneous projection. I believe that security for your new child was the driving force behind it. Your subconscious mind may have known, or at least suspected, that the door was unlocked, but your conscious mind wanted to know for certain, so you projected.

Had the door been locked, and that fact could have been confirmed just by looking at it, you probably would have seen the door closed and locked. Having done so, you probably would have continued to sleep. However, after seeing the door open, you were immediately able to determine that the door was in fact not locked. I believe that your subconscious mind planted the "vision" of the open door to make this fact obvious to you.

With your door closed and unlocked, can you tell for sure that it is unlocked just by looking at it?

I've been gone for about an year, and , LO, the travellers are still here. Stop tripping, if you know what i mean! It's bad for your health!

Well guys as people still wants the mp3`s and info and stuff like that i decided to create a small simple website about astral travel where i will add techniques and info about astral projection (at least what i know) there will be a chat and a small forum later and a download page to download the mp3 and stuff like that and guess what i think i might be able to put the course videos there of course i did not make a lot on it yet but here`s the link so you can check it out: astraltravels.tk if u have any suggestions for the site plz tell me or pm me or something like that as i dont have lot of ideas

Also i found out that i have a friend witch told me last night that he once got out of hes body, he said he saw himself lie on the bed and was just confused.. but... he`s absolutely not interested in astral traveling.. a shame... but.. guess theres nothing i can do about it i myself has not got a lot further as i had my friend here since friday but il try again tonight as there is nobody home

Back up a mo', you've got to tell him why it's good etc. Ask why him why he doesn't want to do it most importantly. This is what I'd do if this is my friend, because after projecting once, it should be easier after that. I've notced this anyway with me. Don't give up if he is a really good friend to you because it's something he will probably thank you for.

P.S. Well done on creating a site.

i've done an astral projection accidentally but it hard for me to do it again

He`s one of my best friends and yeah im trying to explain a little about it even though he dont seem like he cares at all, im thinking what i say might stay in he`s mind so that he might actually project sometime while he`s here, i believe that if he does AP while he`s here he might just start to care and understand that it`s not a dream or whatever, anyway i didnt have any luck last night trying to project but il try it again tonight!

Good work with the site sephiroth, i like to help but don't know much about websites but i try if u need anything.

I have no idea why your friend wouldn't want to learn more about ap. Its a life changing experience once you get hit with something like that.

Thanks and i dont need help making the site really.. it`s supposed to be a simple site with some info, techniques and downloads there is a chat there btw but if anyone have any suggestions for what i could add to the site then feel free to tell me EDIT: i do need a site that i can upload files to though if you know any as i need to upload music, movies etc...

And i can think of some reasons he dont want to know more about AP and i think it`s either because he dont believe it`s real or because he dont really care or rather cant understand how cool it really is there are people who thinks it`s not that big of a deal and that they dont need it.

Socrates

I have been with the Rosicrucian Order ( AMORC ) For many years and they teach how to do projection in the higher degree's. And it does work, you just have to keep practicing. They also teach a technique and I have done this, of projecting into someone else's body. Animal or human. You can't control the person but you can see what he see's, you are looking out his eyes. This can be a man, woman, dog, cat. This type of projection is mainly used for healing someone that is sick.

Longhair

Nope... he`s not here anymore... rather he has not been here in a really long time, even though it would be cool if he came back someday or at least left a post just to say hi or something..

Anyway guys course week 6 is here and it shows 4 mantras you could use to astral project, like the well known LaRaS i think i could upload the mp3`s that show you how to say them as they are really small files

EDIT: i just checked my first post just for fun and i noticed my first post is right under socrates last post, that was kinda freaky Oo anyway i dont know if he will come back anymore as he has not been on the forums at all after that last post on this forum witch was on march 3 if im not mistaking so i guess we just have to wait and see

I've been having these wierd experiences lately. Since it's summer vacation, i stay up way too long and fall asleep almost instantly. When i lay down on my bed, i think of APing and doing a technique, but i fall asleep. Then i have a dream and i'm about to pull my finger or jump to see if i really am in a dream, then i wake up . I feel like i'm so close to having a lucid dream.

Cool seems like your getting somewhere i myself have not got anything lately, i usually notice something strange and understand im dreaming and then i just.. start to project, getting vibrations feeling light\heavy etc... i dont need to concentrate much if i do it from a dream cuz then it just feels natural to try and AP so i instantly get the vibrations.. even though i cant lucid dream a lot, but im working on it (at least a little) anyway seems like theres little life on the forum Oo il try waking up in a dream tonight by concentrating really hard on having a lucid dream before i fall asleep, this actually works sometimes, to really believe your going to lucid dream and then when you fall asleep you might just think of that and understand your in a dream

EDIT: i updated my site and added 5 mantras to the downloads section, 4 used for AP and 1 for remembering dreams, i also added a brief explanation about how to use them in the techniques sections if anyone would like to check it out the dream mantra has worked well for me though i remember dreams a lot clearer now

I have some questions about astral travel. How do you actually project? One time i was trying to project in a few minutes my ear began felling heavy and i started hearing strange sounds a knock and a sound like two rusty metal sticks bashed into each other , white blinking lights apeared! But it kept like this for a long time and eventually i gave up. Did i do something wrong or do i have to be asleep for the projection to work? If not i would really want to know how can i do the projection thing without getting asleep. Thanks in advance!

Well your body is asleep while you astral project, if you manage to project from being awake then your body falls asleep, you cant control 2 bodies at once but it`s possible to astral project through meditation, sleep and probably other ways but the point is that the moment your actually out of your body then your body is asleep and it sounds like you almost projected as hearing those things and seeing lights is a sign of your about to leave your body

EDIT:i think i totally wrote this the wrong way.. but you get my point.. i hope

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WOW what a fascinating post you have there

and yeah... im kinda bored... like.... a lot...

Maybe your body wasn't fully relaxed. I was reading the download think of sephiroth's website, and it said your body has to be fully relaxed before you can truly project.


LOL!!!

Yup if ur trying to astral project then one of the most impotent things is to be completely relaxed because if we are then our astral bodies become more loose but if we move if only a tiny bit then it locks the physical and the astral tightly together and the other most important thing is of course concentration and visualization (of course this is what i have read over the past 6 months ) and it makes sense too as as your body is 100% relaxed when sleeping, and thats when AP usually takes place

BUT i think something might happen tonight!! I seriously have a weird feeling and i seriously believe someone i cant see is standing behind me and watching me!! Ever had that feeling? like someone is standing behind you? and you turn around but nobody is there? well i have this feeling constantly now.. im starting to feel a little scared as this feeling is really freaky.. it`s like im being watched and i turn around every 20 seconds because i think someone is behind me! maybe if i ask nice they will help me project?

EDIT: everyone (i think, not sure) can hear this faint sound when it`s totally quiet, like theres not a sound at all but you still hear a faint sound like.. (dunno how to explain this) beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep or something lol, anyway when i get the feeling of someone being near me or watching me etc... it`s like i hear this faint sound move, it`s like someone is passing by where the sound comes from (damn hard to explain lol) is this just me or what?? OMG HOLY sh**! i swear to god i can feel a chill down my back all the time and it felt like someone was touching my sholder!!!!!!!! OKAY IM OFFICIALLY FREAKED OUT!! im seriously scared now i feel someone is here with me, something is seriously happening around me now!! this is actually kinda cool and scary at once could this interfere with me trying to AP? cuz now im scared of being followed by something evil...

Another EDIT: ok this is going out of controll... everything stoped for a little the feeling of someone being here and watching me, so i turned on some music and i just said out in the open "i know someone`s here, can you help me project?" and i heard a faint voice and NO it was not in my headphones it sounded like it said my name and now those feelings are back... like im being watched by someone.. anyone had this happened before? can it be someone from the astral??? i mean... wtf is happening?!?!

Very interesting, I assume you know of Amrita and or ORMES/ORMUS as some call manna (or mana as the Polynesians know it as) or shewbread. I assume you do but just in case I think maybe manna may help the traveler

i don't think that can ever work longhair.

Thats really intresting! It once hapened to me too i was trying to project when i heard a strange sound that freacked me out and for the rest of the day i felt that sometimes someone is watching me from behind its really freaky! Oh and thanks for your replys all im going to try astral travel tonight and if i dont bore you with my questions could you answer this? I heard that you can reach 3 diferent planes of astral this true?

Yeah well i felt someone touch my shoulder and i heard someone say my name lats night while i wrote that post, but now it`s gone though.. i did not project.. but for some reason i slept to 3:30 PM LOL

And yeah there are different planes you can project too.. i think.. lol but i dont know how many different they are.. or anything like that

Hello Everyone,
I have been following this thread for a month now.It has been a really interesting journey.Many good tips and ideas passed along.

Just got some new info about about guides and spirit guides and i found this info in some googled page so dont blame me because im not sure if its true . A spirit guide sometimes apears when you have just projected he/she can help you learn the basics about moving and doing stuff in astral plane etc. A guardian is basically a hag which appears mostly in lucid dreams it bashes the lucid dreamer/astral traveler and this unpleasant experience can last even upto 10 minutes! If you see the hag you should close you eyes and imagine it transforming and soon in the hags robe you should see as silver blue figure which is a guardian. They can be either male or female and dont they dont talk very much getting as far as "follow me" so dont bother asking them silly questions all guides are masters of dream control and nothing can harm them.

Hmm i did not know about them being in lucid dreams like this, i do know though that spirit guides are spirits living in the astral plane or something like that so if you get out of your body it should be easy to contact them, but this is good info as i did not know they could be in dreams

EDIT: ok i know it might be a little late but i can upload the AP course videos now il update you guys when i get to upload it as they are a few videos out now

Found out about different planes here they go:

The etheric planes
3.The atmic/para-ego plane "Sivaloka/Karanaloka , world of shiva": Highest of all planes where God and highly evolved spirits reside
2.The buddhic/inner-egoic plane: This plane is virtually impossible for an astral projector to reach and is beyond human minds to describe and appreciate
1.The mental/manasic/devachan/ego-manas plane: Here you break of your former body trappings , free thought and creativity like a flow of water. Its extremely hard for an astral traveler to reach this plane and very difficult to spend any time here this state is linked with passive lucidity

The astral planes
4.The high astral "Maharloka , plane of balance": "Summerland" Heavenly peace this plane is very difficult for an astral traveler to reach
3.The middle astral "Svarloka , celestial plane": This plane somewhat like our reality souls are rehabilitated here universities and centers of learning abound
2.The lower astral "Bhuvarloka , plane of atmosphere": This plane is very close to our physical world those who have passed over but continue to cling their lifes can be found here
1.The sub-astral/hell "Naraka": This plane consists seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras bellow the spine

The physical plane "Bhuloka , earth world": The world we experience in waking life made of slow vibration

EDIT: More info!

Wow thats awesome it explains a lot, i might just put some of it on my site

doh! now im just really curious about whats in the atmic or buddhic plane probably aliens... the buddhic plane is beyond human minds but aliens are not humans so it`s probably full of aliens neh just kidding i have no idea im just kinda bored right now..

I would really like to know how much time it took you to project or since then you are trying to do so? For me i am trying for 4 days now , were two times near it but i failed

I can assure you all that astral projection is a very real thing.

Did you have any projections astral shaman? Maybe you can give us some advice?

Well i have not been APing for a long time 5 - 6 months maybe and i cant ap whenever i want to but sometimes i wake up in dreams and i instantly think of trying to astral project (dunno why but it`s the first thought that comes to mind) and i feel myself on the bed vibrating, i have only been out in the astral 2 times witch i remember now and the first was the first time i woke up in a dream after starting to read about AP, i felt the vibrations and i got scared so i tried to move to wake up and i open my eyes a little (normal physical eyes) then it all stopped but i could feel something was wrong as i could not move my head, so i reached my hand out in front of me but i could not see it, i felt my hand going up towards me but i could not see it at all and so i could suddenly move again and i was back in the physical guess i opened my physical eyes witch cant see my astral body moving

second time was more frightening i woke up from a dream again but this time i was concentrated on APing (okay this is really hard to remember for some reason but i have a post i wrote while fully remembering everything) i felt the vibrations and after a little they stopped and i decided to get up so i got a little up on my bed (hard as i did not feel my body) and looked down on myself but as it was so hard to move i decided to roll out of bed and i did, i landed on the floor thinking something like "holy crap im doing it" and i did not get back then though but as i lied there i for some reason thought of the movie "the grudge 2" for some reason (maybe as i just had seen it) and i freaked out thinking i would probably attract something evil so i did anything i could to get back like thinking of my body, trying to will myself back and of course the fair itself should send me back but it did not it must have taken at least 2 minutes before i actually woke up with a giant jolt, it was seriously a frightening experience... the fact i did not get back instantly...

Anyway i had my chance twice one of the nights just after but i did not do it as i was to scared of it happening again, i felt like something tried to force me as i got the vibrations unwillingly but now im not scared anymore though so im just waiting for another chance


Yeah i know even though it only happened once that i really got out it felt like i was wide awake!

P.S Vilius the course videos are videos from a course i registered at witch is a 9 week course that is really good for AP i dont follow everything on it as i dont have time or for other reasons though but the point is you have to wait to the course is finished before joining again so i decided to upload it for those who did not get on the course in time

EDIT: OKAY AT LAST!! i got the videos for week one and week two of the astral projection course up on my site so go check it out! il upload more soon so wait for updates

The course videos are very good thanks!

No problem, im trying to get more videos up right now

Wow it`s amazing how big this thread has become!! 120 damn pages, this got to be one of the longest threads on astral projection ever!

Nearly projected again.. using new method i just thought off.
1. Lay down on your back
2. Visualice that two duplicates of yourself are floating over you first being etheric body and second being astral body
3. Visualice that you are floating in astrals body place
Thats it using this i nearly projected. I could see the room with closed eyes for a few seconds but got jolted by a loud knock which happens very near astral projection , right into my left ear



Looks like you got an etheric projection in such projections you fell/dont your body and its very hard to move. Some people lose connection to etheric projection very quickly and some get tied to it for a few minutes and freak out.

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Yep this thread is really amazing it helped and keeps helping people who are intrested in astral travel

Wow sounds like you got really close, Im gonna try this technique later before i go to bed but im not that good at concentration so i usually prefer waking up in dreams even though im not to good at it anyway i think this would work great if you do it in the morning when your really tired

I did this at day it works great just visualice that your floating in astrals body place and the 2 others are over you it works like a charm

I will be experimenting a little with this today i think as there`s nobody home before tomorrow and btw how about if you use that astral projection mp3 track? it`s a great track for use with AP

haha and also tonight im going out to shoot fireworks into my friend`s garden outside he`s window using my (blowpipe?) dunno if thats what it`s called but it`s a pipe and you put arrows in it and blow in it to fire ima put fireworks in it and shoot it over to my friend while he`s asleep hahahaha is this considered evil?

I haven't been having much success with this I went back to reading some of my books I brought, I even borrowed a book from the library today called Astral Dynamics A New Approach to Out-of-Body Experience by Robert Bruce the problem I'm having now is focus because I get so wrapped up into what I'd like to go or go when I get out that I can't concentrate hard enough to actually do it.

I'm reading the books now when I come across some good techniques I'll post them.

Hey you can download that book as an ebook from my site thats the same one LOL thats a freaky coincident oO

can you send me the link?

Woah, really! I didn't even notice that!

The link to my site is in my signature, just go to downloads it`s only 2 downloads there for now and it dont seem like my site is working now Oo well things like this happens it will be back in a moment

EDIT: site is working again

Ok thanks I got it downloaded.

Im pretty much obsessed with it , I have been out a few times and remembered it but I know im getting out when I try to but its very hard to remember it.

Try to think of your self as smoke slowly riseing up and getting bigger or expanding. Keep in mind the hardest part is relaxing (very relaxed mind you) and you need to do so energy raising all so.(works for me)

Thanks i just downloaded that book



Nice technique im going to try that tonight if i dont fall asleep

EDIT: Is your body asleep then the vibrations start? because i can hear the faint ringing in my head and then i enter vibrational state it is gone

I don't pay attention to whether or not my body is asleep I just try and focus on getting out and staying calm. When your heart chakra starts pounding and the vibrations are going crazy the worst thing you can do is think about your body.

Thats exactly what i did! Also how do i get out of my body when the vibrations start i must stay calm and keep the focus but how do you fell when you are exiting your body i read at some google page that you need to raise your astral body or something?