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lufia
Focus on pulling yourself out of your body bit by bit, always focus on the head first, once that comes out everything fulls into place. it is hard for me to get out if my head isn't out first, having my legs and body hang outwards and my head stuck is not a good feeling original.gif. whatever suits you tho.
Vilius
Should i focus on this then im in vibrational state or this is a complete technique?
lufia
Yes give it a go on your vibrational state. Collect your thoughts if you start to freak out, gets easier the more often it happens to you.
Vilius
Big thanks didnt knew that before and it kept me back from projecting original.gif
sephiroth976
For me, if i get the vibrations it actually helps to focus on the vibrations, focusing on getting out of your body and that the vibrations is a sign of me leaving my body, actually works great for me tongue.gif

P.S i have no idea why people are scared of it, it`s actually a nice feeling tongue.gif also i never really reacted enough when i felt the vibrations to actually stop them, i just thought cool but i it still did not stop thumbsup.gif
lufia
No problems. The feeling once you know you got out, you be over the moon. yes.gif

lufia
Ah... half the time im so tired even tho i sleep alot. cyas im goiner go sleep again original.gif
AsträlShaman
That's great advice.
Vilius
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 3 2007, 08:22 PM) [snapback]1707308[/snapback]
P.S i have no idea why people are scared of it, it`s actually a nice feeling tongue.gif also i never really reacted enough when i felt the vibrations to actually stop them, i just thought cool but i it still did not stop


I got this at my first time i felt vibrations but i didnt knew what i was supposed to do to project grin2.gif

Ok so yesterday i tried to project i visualized myself as a smoke slowly rising up and expanding as "AstralShaman" said thanks. It worked great my body got numb and after a while i felt vibrations. So then i was vibrating i thought about raising my body as "lufia" told me thanks to you to , suddenly my legs got cold and i could fell something in the air! But i got a headache from some squeak that was in my head from the beginning . I fell im getting great results as it is only six days since i started learning how to project original.gif
sephiroth976
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 4 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]1707978[/snapback]
Ok so yesterday i tried to project i visualized myself as a smoke slowly rising up and expanding as "AstralShaman" said thanks. It worked great my body got numb and after a while i felt vibrations. So then i was vibrating i thought about raising my body as "lufia" told me thanks to you to , suddenly my legs got cold and i could fell something in the air! But i got a headache from some squeak that was in my head from the beginning . I fell im getting great results as it is only six days since i started learning how to project original.gif

This sound like a good technique and i think i will try this out myself thumbsup.gif thanks AstralShaman and lufia thumbsup.gif

EDIT: Hey guys i just added week 3 and 4 of the astral projection course videos to my site tongue.gif
Vilius
Ok so today when i was trying to project a strange thing hapend. I entered the vibrational and focused on leaving my body bit to bit after a while vibrations stoped it was like i couldnt fell my body up to my head! Then it happend i focused on my legs leaving my body then a great pain struck my legs it felt like they there weighting a ton i wanted my astral legs to leave my body but my body didnt let them go like a magnet how can i get through this?

EDIT: Thanks for the videos sephirot original.gif !
EDIT2: Im really exhausted after that then i try to project my legs start to hurt again sleepy.gif
unstopable
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 4 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]1708436[/snapback]
Ok so today when i was trying to project a strange thing hapend. I entered the vibrational and focused on leaving my body bit to bit after a while vibrations stoped it was like i couldnt fell my body up to my head! Then it happend i focused on my legs leaving my body then a great pain struck my legs it felt like they there weighting a ton i wanted my astral legs to leave my body but my body didnt let them go like a magnet how can i get through this?

EDIT: Thanks for the videos sephirot original.gif !
EDIT2: Im really exhausted after that then i try to project my legs start to hurt again sleepy.gif

Maybe your body wasn't relaxed enough. If your body isn't relaxed, your body will have a tighter hold on your astral body making it harder to AP.

I'm leaving for Japan tomorow, so i don't know if i will beable to post comments on this web site because they have a different keyboard than us. I'll be there for a month. If i can get a UK keyboard, then i'll post some comments and tell you guys a little bit about Japan grin2.gif . Sayonara!
sephiroth976
QUOTE(unstopable @ Jun 4 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]1709056[/snapback]
Maybe your body wasn't relaxed enough. If your body isn't relaxed, your body will have a tighter hold on your astral body making it harder to AP.

I'm leaving for Japan tomorow, so i don't know if i will beable to post comments on this web site because they have a different keyboard than us. I'll be there for a month. If i can get a UK keyboard, then i'll post some comments and tell you guys a little bit about Japan grin2.gif . Sayonara!



WHAAAAA?!?! i always wanted to go to japan disgust.gif also if your not relaxed enough then your physical and astral body will be locked tight together so being relaxed is probably one of the most important things thumbsup.gif

EDIT: i always wanted to taste a final fantasy xii potion witch you can get in japan laugh.gif
RedFFWolf
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 5 2007, 12:29 AM) [snapback]1709145[/snapback]
WHAAAAA?!?! i always wanted to go to japan disgust.gif also if your not relaxed enough then your physical and astral body will be locked tight together so being relaxed is probably one of the most important things thumbsup.gif

EDIT: i always wanted to taste a final fantasy xii potion witch you can get in japan laugh.gif

Final Fantasy Potion notworthy.gif ...you can get them ever since they made FFVII. I remember seeing an ad for it one time, I think it was on the FF: AC special features or you could watch it on youtube, there are many different versions of the ad. (I also want to go to Japan.)

Anyway, (couldn't resist saying about the potion) even if you can't astral project one night, I find that in the morning, I remember most of my dreams easily. I managed to remember four different dreams in the same night a few nights ago when I lastly tried.
sephiroth976
QUOTE(RedFFWolf @ Jun 5 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]1709928[/snapback]
Final Fantasy Potion notworthy.gif ...you can get them ever since they made FFVII. I remember seeing an ad for it one time, I think it was on the FF: AC special features or you could watch it on youtube, there are many different versions of the ad. (I also want to go to Japan.)

Anyway, (couldn't resist saying about the potion) even if you can't astral project one night, I find that in the morning, I remember most of my dreams easily. I managed to remember four different dreams in the same night a few nights ago when I lastly tried.

Dunno if there are different types of potion but i know one is called final fantasy XII potion i think it came out with ff12, anyway remembering dreams is good and fun tongue.gif when i wake up in the morning i just lie still for 5 to 10 minutes trying to remember dreams better thumbsup.gif

Ok i know it`s off topic but... ragnarok online 2 open beta is out!! had to write that as i love the first RO game... even though RO2 beta is only for korea i got a hold of a KSSN (korean social security number) so i just registered and im downloading now!! <-- again sorry for of topic but i cant hold things like that inside -.-
Vilius
Last night when i said to me a few times "i will remember" i dreamt that google took over mars were all doomed (pickups machine-gun) gunsmilie.gif ! Also about Astral projection i got the same experience as before but now all my body was locked up thou i am sure i was relaxed and i concentrated really hard disgust.gif ill better try this later then my brother isnt making any noise.
sephiroth976
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 5 2007, 07:08 PM) [snapback]1710263[/snapback]
i dreamt that google took over mars

I just have to comment on that and say.... LOL

P.S reminds me of a friend who dreamed he was a teabag, not actually being the teabag but the feeling of being the teabag, i laughed so hard i cried when he told me and some other friends of mine laugh.gif
Vilius
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 6 2007, 01:40 AM) [snapback]1710968[/snapback]
I just have to comment on that and say.... LOL

P.S reminds me of a friend who dreamed he was a teabag, not actually being the teabag but the feeling of being the teabag, i laughed so hard i cried when he told me and some other friends of mine laugh.gif



At first i thought it was a good thing , Man finally walks the mars! But when i saw Google logos i was terrified ...
psycic_newbie
rite sumfink really weird happened the other day i was lyin down relaxin and started hearin singin then i felt as if i tripped over then i woke up sum 1 told me it is astral travel but i neva went out of my body as far as i know
plz explain it 2 me lol thanx
Vilius
QUOTE(psycic_newbie @ Jun 6 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]1711656[/snapback]
rite sumfink really weird happened the other day i was lyin down relaxin and started hearin singin then i felt as if i tripped over then i woke up sum 1 told me it is astral travel but i neva went out of my body as far as i know
plz explain it 2 me lol thanx


Hi , the sounds you heard are from astral realm that means you were about to leave your body thumbsup.gif . You may not remeber leaving your body but that happens every night when your sleeping.
sephiroth976
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 6 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]1711663[/snapback]
Hi , the sounds you heard are from astral realm that means you were about to leave your body thumbsup.gif . You may not remeber leaving your body but that happens every night when your sleeping.

Yup thats right everyone is in the astral when they sleep but what they see is a dream, however what you heard could very much be from the astral realm and the tripping was most likely your astral body going back into your physical! thumbsup.gif
lufia
good work people, u guys doing great in progressing.

btw i heard them final fantasy potions are *puke* happy.gif . have fun at japan, introduce me to some of your japanese girl friends later innocent.gif
sephiroth976
QUOTE(lufia @ Jun 6 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1711986[/snapback]
introduce me to some of your japanese girl friends later innocent.gif

me too, me too!!! laugh.gif

i have to many birds outside my window when trying to AP to be able to do it -.-' i did not notice it before last night when i thought about it and now it`s damn annoying.. think il do better to wake up in dreams thumbsup.gif if i can manage that though -.-'
Vilius
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 6 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]1712081[/snapback]
i did not notice it before last night'


Am i the only one who thinks that projecting at day is easier i got used to it and distractions arent affecting my focus. But at night its different , when i tried to project i heard a sound like somebody is bashing my rooms door with an axe. Got my first jolt and not a small i jumped out of my bed after that wouldn't ever had happened at day disgust.gif !
psycic_newbie
thanx 4 the help original.gif
psycic_newbie
yh just wanted to know how do i actually manage 2 astral travel and stop being scared of it because if i go light i gt scared and wots it like
BellonaFern
During the day, I can lie flat on my back comfortably, and start to meditate on wanting to astral travel, and when I get deep into the meditation, I feel like I'm on a boat, but geez, does it take a long time to get close to escaping into the astral, but I never quite get there. Anyone know why?
Vilius
QUOTE(psycic_newbie @ Jun 7 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]1712938[/snapback]
yh just wanted to know how do i actually manage 2 astral travel and stop being scared of it because if i go light i gt scared and wots it like


Just ignore these feelings. You will get used to them in a few tries thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(BellonaFern @ Jun 7 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]1712989[/snapback]
During the day, I can lie flat on my back comfortably, and start to meditate on wanting to astral travel, and when I get deep into the meditation, I feel like I'm on a boat, but geez, does it take a long time to get close to escaping into the astral, but I never quite get there. Anyone know why?


Im too stuck i fell that i will soon project but i never do hmm.gif

EDIT: I was so close closest i have ever been to project could even see the rom with closed eyes not as lame as the last time but the whole room in inverted colors! It was amazing only annoyance was some sound "Alallala bzzz" in my head repeating over and over again sang by some old guy. Ill try again today or tomorrow and see if i can get even closer bounce.gif !
BellonaFern
Same! Apparently, I once astral traveled in my sleep without knowing it, and I had only realized what I had done when my mumma told a story of a reccent event that corrosponded with what I had dreamt. I hadn't a clue what I was doing, I just remembered falling asleep with the goal of wanting to astral travel, but get some sleep at the same time.

The will power method is very effective, I think, when you're sleepy.
Vilius
QUOTE(BellonaFern @ Jun 7 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1713719[/snapback]
The will power method is very effective, I think, when you're sleepy.


Aye its easier when your sleepy but you can do it at day too.
Vilius
With a bit practice i was able to enter a very numb state where i think of myself leaving my body bit to bit and i can feel that i am raising but i soon realize that its my physical thats raising not my astral disgust.gif . Also how do you visualize yourself from side or looking at your physical?
BellonaFern
In my oppinion, memorize what you look like, maybe in a full-length mirror, so that you know exactly what you look like, maybe just before you want to astral, so that you can see yourself very clearly.

I hope that helps.
Vilius
QUOTE(BellonaFern @ Jun 8 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]1715254[/snapback]
In my oppinion, memorize what you look like, maybe in a full-length mirror, so that you know exactly what you look like, maybe just before you want to astral, so that you can see yourself very clearly.

I hope that helps.


Thats exactly what i do hmm.gif
Twisted
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 7 2007, 07:26 AM) [snapback]1712893[/snapback]
Am i the only one who thinks that projecting at day is easier i got used to it and distractions arent affecting my focus. But at night its different , when i tried to project i heard a sound like somebody is bashing my rooms door with an axe. Got my first jolt and not a small i jumped out of my bed after that wouldn't ever had happened at day disgust.gif !

The very best time to AP is after you had a decent amount of sleep, right when you wake up. Another way is to wake yourself up in the middle of the night, stretch out make yourself aware your awake. Think about your hand massaging your whole body, try to feel it as if its really happening, its called your "awareness hand". Focus on your breathing, you will fall into a meditation state within a few minutes if not sooner. When you wake up your body is already extremely relaxed it doesn't take much effort to bring you close to Astral Projecting. In the past I have had all of the same problems all of you are going through when trying to project. The key is not falling asleep well trying to project, sounds easy but its not. Your mind must stay awake well your body is falling asleep. You may feel all sorts of itching all over your body when your starting to meditate, thats your energy flowing over your body. Its a good sign but distracting, you must over come that it will go away in a few minutes.

When I first started to learn about projecting and trying it myself I had some scary results. Its real easy for me to bring myself to a relaxed meditation state, so I figured this would be easy for to have an OBE, I was wrong! Every time I got to the buzzing and vibrational state I kept seeing very disturbing non human faces. I never could understand what was going on but I would get a jolt and wake. When I am in a meditation state all I can see is very dark gray clouds, after awhile being in that state and getting into a deeper relaxation is when I started to see them nasty figure, their mouths would move and they would ramble and I could never understand what they were saying. It was almost like they were stopping me from projecting, trying to scare me outta the state I was in. They did a few time until I noticed if I ignored them they would leave. It really was as easy as that, I later read and found out they were creations of my own mind, not a entitie but energy of my own fears.... Well projecting you can manifest anything on your mind! It sounds crazy but is very true....
Twisted
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 8 2007, 04:53 PM) [snapback]1714910[/snapback]
With a bit practice i was able to enter a very numb state where i think of myself leaving my body bit to bit and i can feel that i am raising but i soon realize that its my physical thats raising not my astral disgust.gif . Also how do you visualize yourself from side or looking at your physical?

If its your physical body that starts to rise then your not nearly as relaxed as you should be. If your body is numb your physical shouldn't move at all you would be in a state of sleep paralysis.

Visualizing your full body above your self like looking at a mirror is not easy, you have to picture every detail on your face and body. It gets awfully distracting, try the rope technique. Visualize yourself climbing a rope thats hanging from above your body, you must picture yourself climbing this rope right outta your physical. You should try as hard as you can to feel the rope, see your awareness hands pulling you out. You will eventually crawl right out of your body!
Twisted
PS. Trying to Astral Project in your bed in a comfortable position usually results in falling asleep. Try meditating in a chair that tilts back a bit. You don't want your head falling forward, the seated position is probably one of the best ways to AP. Or if you lay in your bed on your back, keep your elbows on the bed and your hand straight up, it will prevent you from falling asleep to soon.

Joe
Vilius
Wow , thanks for help Twisted notworthy.gif !
Twisted
thumbsup.gif

Its great to see how many people are interested in this subject!
Vilius
Just tried the rope technique and it worked great! Im going to village today so maybe ill get some result there wink2.gif
BellonaFern
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 9 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]1716222[/snapback]
Just tried the rope technique and it worked great! Im going to village today so maybe ill get some result there wink2.gif



Really? Maybe if I have some time and some privacy while at school, I should try that. Maybe the lecture theater...Thanks! Really, thanks a million! I'm going to go try that right now.


I remember that once I fell asleep with an awake mind, and it felt like what was described in The Lord of the Ring, so I called it an 'elf sleep'.
sephiroth976
Hey guys, sry i have not been on to much, but i had the vibrations twice just now, i woke up now in the morning (day lol) then i fell back asleep a little (dream felt really real) when i woke up i did not move my body at all not even opened my eyes, i could not feel what position i was laying in or anything then i felt the vibrations after maybe 15 seconds of vibrations i saw my room pretty dark and suddenly it looks like everything goes like far away from me (like in those horror movies where they run through a endless hallway lol)then i felt i was moving and suddenly i fell of my bed and hit the floor (still having the vibrations) and i could feel it as if i was awake then i thought "damn i fell down lol" and the vibrations stopped and i was back in bed thinking something like "what the?" and i did not know if i were to get out of bed or not but as i though that i felt the vibrations again this time i felt as if i was slowly moving a little and i thought of myself flying above my body, i thought stuff like "i need to concentrate" and things like that all the time but i did not wake up then i saw a little light forming (i did not see through my closed eyes this time) but i woke up just after i saw the light lol

anyway i noticed the vibrations seems to drag you up, or at least it feels like they do tongue.gif

also the thing is that i cant remember fully now what i have been dreaming the times i get these vibrations but like now i feel it happens when i dream about someone i care about huh.gif it`s kinda weird... any thoughts on this?

btw il be uploading more videos to my site soon thumbsup.gif
lufia
woops
Vilius
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 10 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1717275[/snapback]
when i woke up i did not move my body at all not even opened my eyes, i could not feel what position i was laying in or anything then i felt the vibrations after maybe 15 seconds of vibrations i saw my room pretty dark and suddenly it looks like everything goes like far away from me (like in those horror movies where they run through a endless hallway lol)then i felt i was moving and suddenly i fell of my bed and hit the floor (still having the vibrations) and i could feel it as if i was awake then i thought "damn i fell down lol" and the vibrations stopped and i was back in bed thinking something like "what the?"


Maybe thats an etheric projection or something like that passifier.gif ? Iits a projection in which you are halfway in astral plane and the other half is still in physical plane.

QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 10 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1717275[/snapback]
also the thing is that i cant remember fully now what i have been dreaming the times i get these vibrations but like now i feel it happens when i dream about someone i care about huh.gif it`s kinda weird... any thoughts on this?


No idea .. ghosts grin2.gif ?

Just hot back from village and i experienced a strange felling there i was trying to project when i felt vibrations and that a hooded (black robes) figure is standing at the other side of the room dont know why but i thought about grim reaper ph34r.gif and the figure immediately started moving towards me scared the jolt out of me no.gif ! Im stuck at vibrational stage it annoys me! I have been "vibrating" for 10 minutes and nothing happened sleepy.gif !
sephiroth976
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jun 10 2007, 05:51 PM) [snapback]1717504[/snapback]
No idea .. ghosts grin2.gif ?

neh the dreams are normally about living people i know like maybe.. a girl i like unsure.gif maybe... not saying it is!! ph34r.gif ok maybe rofl.gif NOT THE POINT THOUeGH! i dont get much further then the vibrations either... -.- might be cause when it happens my mind is so busy as so much is usually going on when i get them (moving feelings, faling on the floor (whats up with that anyway?) and stuff like that) anyways good luck to you all thumbsup.gif
unstopable
Hey guys, finaly finaly found a computer i can use.

It`s been really hard to concentrate on APing because the house i`m staying at is next to a railroad (where the train passes every 20 min.), and house keeper`s pet bird keeps chirping very loudly. Also, it`s the rainy season in japan, so it`s even harder to concentrate, I`ve been having these wiered experiences lately. I think about APing before i try and attempt it. I don`t feel anything or any numbness, so i open my eyes and find out that (what felt like 10 min.) an hour passed by. Also, I`ve been remembering more dreams lately since i arrived at japan. I don`t know if it`s the food or what, but it`s helping.

I found out that Japan still has school until July mad.gif , so there arn`t any girls my age i can talk to... Ah well, it`s nice here.
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 10 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]1717275[/snapback]
i felt i was moving and suddenly i fell of my bed and hit the floor (still having the vibrations) and i could feel it as if i was awake then i thought "damn i fell down lol"

LOL. What`s with you and falling off your bed?
sephiroth976
Okay this is weird and i really dunno of i should put it under a weird dream or not fully conscious AP, well il tell you about it and you can help me find out tongue.gif

Okay so i did the same as yesterday when i got the vibrations, woke up a little earlier and got back to bed (not getting up from bed at all) well as i fell asleep i got the vibrations witch stopped several times, (heres the weird part) i dreamed i was in my room trying to sleep and ap (know it was a dream cause of some weird random stuff that was in my room) and i got the vibrations (i did not wake up as before, i got them in the dream) this time i tried to concentrate on the feeling of hovering over my bed and thats when i felt the pull throwing me high up out of my body and suddenly i was standing on the other side of my room (i did not feel as awake as before) but i remember trying to pull my finger and it stretched i also thought stuff like "holy crap" but i was not drawn back i also remember trying to jump but did not fly and i could not take my hand through my door either so i went back to bed thinking i would wake up, that i had experienced enough and then suddenly im back in bed.. in the dream... soon after i wake up and it`s been just 40 minutes.. unsure.gif

Even though it felt like it was a dream i could feel the vibrations and the pulling feeling clear as if i was wide awake, so my question would be.. can you be in the astral like that? not fully conscious but still enough to know whats happening? cause if thats the case im 100% sure i did it because of the feelings of leaving my body thumbsup.gif

I really need your thoughts on this hmm.gif

And this time i did not dream about girls either..... not saying i normally do rofl.gif

EDIT: hey unstopable cool hearing from u again and i always thought japanese people knew a lot about this stuff maybe you u can find a teacher in ap tongue.gif if he`s english that is tongue.gif and about me falling of my bed.. well.. im guessing i like laying on the floor... or something... ph34r.gif
Twisted
QUOTE(sephiroth976 @ Jun 10 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1717275[/snapback]
Hey guys, sry i have not been on to much, but i had the vibrations twice just now, i woke up now in the morning (day lol) then i fell back asleep a little (dream felt really real) when i woke up i did not move my body at all not even opened my eyes, i could not feel what position i was laying in or anything then i felt the vibrations after maybe 15 seconds of vibrations i saw my room pretty dark and suddenly it looks like everything goes like far away from me (like in those horror movies where they run through a endless hallway lol)then i felt i was moving and suddenly i fell of my bed and hit the floor (still having the vibrations) and i could feel it as if i was awake then i thought "damn i fell down lol" and the vibrations stopped and i was back in bed thinking something like "what the?" and i did not know if i were to get out of bed or not but as i though that i felt the vibrations again this time i felt as if i was slowly moving a little and i thought of myself flying above my body, i thought stuff like "i need to concentrate" and things like that all the time but i did not wake up then i saw a little light forming (i did not see through my closed eyes this time) but i woke up just after i saw the light lol

anyway i noticed the vibrations seems to drag you up, or at least it feels like they do tongue.gif

also the thing is that i cant remember fully now what i have been dreaming the times i get these vibrations but like now i feel it happens when i dream about someone i care about huh.gif it`s kinda weird... any thoughts on this?

btw il be uploading more videos to my site soon thumbsup.gif

That sounds like you had a lucid dream and were about to slip into an OBE through it.... Its real easy to have an OBE through a lucid dream. Anyway that what I got from this post lol but I could be wrong.
Twisted
QUOTE(unstopable @ Jun 11 2007, 04:43 AM) [snapback]1718212[/snapback]
Hey guys, finaly finaly found a computer i can use.

It`s been really hard to concentrate on APing because the house i`m staying at is next to a railroad (where the train passes every 20 min.), and house keeper`s pet bird keeps chirping very loudly. Also, it`s the rainy season in japan, so it`s even harder to concentrate, I`ve been having these wiered experiences lately. I think about APing before i try and attempt it. I don`t feel anything or any numbness, so i open my eyes and find out that (what felt like 10 min.) an hour passed by. Also, I`ve been remembering more dreams lately since i arrived at japan. I don`t know if it`s the food or what, but it`s helping.

I found out that Japan still has school until July mad.gif , so there arn`t any girls my age i can talk to... Ah well, it`s nice here.

LOL. What`s with you and falling off your bed?
Sounds like your to tired when tryin to AP, if you have no Astral Projection symptoms and you lose that much time you fell asleep. Try AP'n early in the morning after you already sleep and your body is real relaxed.
Twisted
sephiroth976

It sounds to me like you having Lucid Dreams about astral projecting. Try to just relax and focus on just relaxing instead of AP'n, your trying to hard. There are may steps to having an OBE and you need to practice all of them. Starting out with energy flow, then total relaxation. You have to make sure you are 100% aware when relaxing so you don't pass out. You will slip into a relaxed trance, there are many levels of the trance state. Certain levels have different vibrations. That is when you start to visualize your etheric double, you need to focus on shaking your etheric double outta your physical by using one or a few of the many techniques.

Joe
Vilius
QUOTE(Twisted @ Jun 11 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]1718743[/snapback]
You will slip into a relaxed trance, there are many levels of the trance state. Certain levels have different vibrations.


Thats intresting how many levels are there?

OK. So weird things are happening for me i keep hearing voices calling me and then i try to project i always feel someones presence , then this entity keeps following me for the rest of the day its freaky no.gif .
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