Heres something that i found

Lifelong Guides

These guides are the helpers that will always be with you.They are usually experienced guides and have a lot of responsibilities, such as coordinating your tests. They assure that you will be in the 'right place at the right time'. Often your Lifelong guide is in the form of your favorite animal. This guide never changes.

Teaching Guides

These guides do just what the name suggests: they teach you! These guides are likely to change throughout your life depending upon what you need to learn. They test you within dreams and waking life. If you dream about a certain animal often it's possible that that is your Teacher.

Spiritual Guides

These spirits appear to you when you have completed an important spiritual step. For example, they may show themselves when you discover a psychic ability you never knew you had or when you finally find your chosen spiritual path.These guides may change over time, but often they are with you forever.

Healing Guides

A healing guide is a spirit that helps you through a time of healing. During grieving or after illness they may appear to help you get back on your feet and move on. Sometimes these guides also appear to people who need to begin healing other people, but need help coordinating the energies.

Protectors

A protector is a guide that is there for your protection. They make sure that all negativity is shielded out of your aura... unless it is a test or a time of healing you are going through. You can all upon these entities to help you when you must do something that requires courage or strength.

Apprentice Guides

As stated above, guides must learn how to properly help a person and the best way to do that is to watch the pros! Many people have guides that teach other guides how to work. You will go through many, many of these through time so take the opportunity to get to know them while they're there with you. They enjoy advice and help quite a lot.

This is weird i actually heard a ramstein rock concert in attempt to project at first it was a nice chorus i liked it better

This is really useful, i did not know there were so many spirit guide things anyway thanks for this

Also i need someones opinion on something lol i think my site is getting kinda boring.. i wanna make something in flash but i kinda suck at designing stuff like that, but should i try and remake the site in flash? or is there something else i could try make in flash...? yah im bored and i like messing with flash >_< even though im not very good with it.... lol

Just add more more stuff into it and it will be ok !


Anyway i read Astral dynamics (click downloads) about how to properly use rope technique and i got to say it has been most helpful !!

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Rope Projection Technique

If you have worked through all the core skills and energy-work training units in this book, you
will have learned how to use your awareness hands very well. Now is the time to put into practice
all that you have learned, and use your awareness hands to climb out of your body. The rope
technique optimizes the use of mental energy resources and enthusiasm by shortening the time
needed to trigger the projection reflex during a projection attempt
A key ingredient to the rope projection technique is an imaginary rope hanging down from the
ceiling. This rope is used to exert strong and continual pressure at a single point on the projectable
double. The hand-over-hand awareness action of climbing the rope tricks the mind into accepting and holding a point of awareness exterior to the physical body. This stimulates the projection reflex
more strongly than any other projection technique I have come across.
The first step is to imagine a large, strong rope hanging down in front of you, just above your
chest, in a natural position for you and for the position you are in. If you are lying down, imagine
the rope end hanging over the center of your chest within easy reach of your hands. If you are
sitting, imagine the rope hanging just in front of your face, with the rope end being firmly attached
to the ceiling. The rope is within easy reach of your hands. Vary the position and angle of this
imaginary rope to suit yourself as to what feels most natural.
Center your awareness hands in the middle of your chest. Reach out with both of them and grasp
the rope. Climb hand over hand strongly up the rope. Pull the rope to your chest with each climbing
hand action. Feel yourself, in your projectable double, moving up the rope as you climb it. Stay
aware of your physical body remaining behind as you climb out of it. Concentrate on the climbing
action, but don't let your physical body respond or tense. Breathe naturally and do not hold your
breath or allow it to become ragged. Hold your mind clear and focused solely on climbing the rope.
Try to develop a powerful, natural, two-handed climbing action, just as you would if you were
actually climbing a rope in real life. One hand reaches out while the other hand holds on. Both
hands work together at all times. As one hand pulls on the rope, the other hand should be reaching
out to grip the rope above it, ready for the next pull on the rope. Try not to use only one hand at a
time. Using both hands together makes the rope technique easier to do and more effective.
Vary the speed of the climbing action to what feels easiest and most natural for you, but do not
climb too slowly. Just as with a bounce action, increase climbing speed until resistance is felt, then
back off to a more comfortable speed. I find varying my climbing speed from about a half a second
to one second for each completed hand action (reaching out and pulling rope in with each hand) is
best for me.
Feel your awareness hands as very strong and feel yourself
climbing effortlessly and powerfully up the rope. Try to feel your projected double, your body, moving upward as you climb the rope.
It is the exterior awareness of the climbing action that makes this
technique work. The climbing action also provides a natural upward
and outward movement away from the physical body.
Some people may have difficulty bringing awareness hands all
the way back to their chest with every pull on the rope. Some may
find that one or both of their awareness hands do not obey orders. If
this is the case, just do the very best you can to keep your hands
moving and climbing and scrambling up the rope in any way you
can. Ways of getting around many common rope-climbing problems,
plus alternative projection techniques, are given in coming chapters.
Many people have found it helpful to pin or tape a length of ribbon or string to the ceiling above
their beds or chairs, hanging within easy arm's reach. Touch this occasionally until you get used to
its position in your mind. The position and feel of the rope will grow in your awareness memory,
making it easier to imagine yourself reaching out and climbing it with your awareness hands.
Position your rope aid at the most natural and easy to imagine position for you. (This aid has one
added bonus, if you are an animal lover — cats absolutely love it!)

Rope Pressure Symptoms

The first sign that the rope technique is working is a peculiar dizzy feeling, a localized energymovement
type of trickling vertigo in the pit of the stomach and in the chest. If you feel this
sensation, the rope technique is exerting good pressure on your projectable double. Keep climbing
and you will trigger the projection reflex — as long as you stay physically relaxed enough to allow
the generation of the projectable double.
As an experiment, try this short exercise now: close your eyes and take a few deep breaths to
settle yourself, nothing more. Feel yourself reaching out and climbing strongly hand over hand up
an imaginary rope for twenty seconds or so. Concentrate and really feel your awareness hands doing
the climbing action as you do this. Use your memory and imagination to re-create the actual feeling
of what it would be like to actually do this.
You should feel something happening fairly quickly: a slight, localized dizzy sensation or trickle
of energy in your stomach and chest. This is similar to the feeling you get when an elevator you are
in suddenly starts moving downward. This slight vertigo and trickle of energy are symptoms your
projectable body is coming under pressure from the exteriorized rope-climbing awareness action
being used. When your body and mind are deeply relaxed and you are fully prepared for projection,
the pressure caused by this action will be greatly increased and have a far greater effect.

well.... if you`re reall bored, then try making a rpg game where you control a guy in the astral using flash. You can have spirit guides give you quests/tests.....or something...... and lol you can fight evil enitities (i think that`s how you spell it). .

Well, i don`t really know, i was just saying what came to mind .

That would make a really cool game too bad i dont know how to make things using flash !

Well i cant do this much in flash as it requires A LOT of systems... i can make like buttons that take u to other sites... thats probably the most advance skill i can yet as i just started but it is enough to create a simple site, and i am kinda working on something in rpgmaker xp... it`s not too good graphics but then again graphics are not everything... might just make a small rpg game just to show the graphics and stuff, but my big project is an online rpg game about astral travels and stuff where you can learn actual techniques from real players and visit the astral (in the game that is) i think it would be a good idea as there are so many people playing games and not believing in AP and stuff like that, people would play the game, kill some monsters (negs) and even though they dont believe they might feel they wanna try it

So finally i managed to learn how to enter trance took me long until i figured to use a technique that involves falling down so anyway i didnt have much time so maybe ill project next week

Whats the technique you use? i think if you can go into a trance you have a much better chance to AP

Heres the techniques i use


Feather technique
Visualize yourself being a feather slowly falling down become aware of your current location as you get deeper and deeper into trance

Falling technique
Not much to say about it its just like feather technique but in this one you visualize falling yourself i prefer this one over the feather technique because i dont need to visualize myself being feather

So the second time i tried this i got the the rushing popping sound with the light. I was like WTF AWESOME,
so i stopped trying and went to sleep.

I woke up this morning and didn`t move at all and i was totaly relaxed. So i decided to try and ap. I started doing the rope technique, but nothing happened. I only felt a slight numbness in my arms and legs. What was i doing wrong?

I think I was closer last night. I relaxed, then did some loosening techniques with imagining myself already out of my body. Then almost all my awareness was in my imaination of being out of my body an I think I was in the trance state. Then I started fealing like my arms and legs where detached and floating or something. So then I started doing the rope tchnique but got excited from the weird fealings and lost focus so I just wen't to sleep. lol I'll try again tonight.

And Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce is really good. I think that's helping couse it's in good detail on Astral Projection.

I`m starting to get that same thing, too. My arms and legs feel like they are floating. So i started doing the rope technique, but nothing happens .

hey

i need help i dont know how to do it and when i try it never works and will it ever happen

from me (ghost_kid)

The trick when doing rope technique is to feel that you are there and that you body is behind you feel just real like you would be then climbing a real rope and try not to get disturbed

Ok so then i try this i enter a trance in like 20 seconds and make it a medium trance in a few minutes after that i try rope technique and i get amazing results! It feels like im bouncing from and into my body but i never detach

EDIT: heres the rope technique for ghost_kid

Rope technique
Imagine a rope hanging from a celling it should be right near your chest in position you fell is most natural when climbing rope. Imagine that your hands are holding the rope hand by hand and you are climbing the rope very easily as a really strong person . Fell your body behind as you climb higher and higher become aware what you are getting higher and higher . That is everything you need to know about rope technique good luck !

No wonder the rope technique didn`t work that well. I kept getting distracted by other thoughts and dwelling on them too long, then starting the rope technique over .

Wow, i just tried this technique that i just thought of and it worked kinda well. I imagined someone pulling me by the legs out of my body. I imagined what the ground felt like as my body was moving over it. After about 15 seconds, i started to feel weightless and numb a little, and my arms and legs felt like they were floating.

thanks!!!! but what time should i do it

Anytime you want of course then your sleepy its easier but i fall asleep too fast you might want to try doing this at day but you must enter a trance for this

You should do it in the morning when you wake up (because that`s when your body is most relaxed), or sometime durring the day. You should not do this at night, because you would be too tired and fall asleep.

how do you fall into a trance?????

You might want to try this visualize a big white dot visualize it getting smaller and at the same time fell that you are falling (i dont know why but this helps me) the dot shouldn't get small too fast

You will fell that your eyes are shut and you will fell falling sensation but all this depends on how deep trance you enter

try this

you should go in a trance try it!!!!!

i just cant astral travel



i always wanted to know what it would feel like but i cant do it

Do not expect to do this instantly it requires practice

i do

Well there are certain rules you must follow if you ever want to project the first of them is do not let doubt get you

EDIT: Im hearing massive doses of astral music like now im not trying to project as this happened then i was reading this thread i just sit and eynjoy them

I can understand you wanting to experience such a feeling, since it is so amazing and unlike anything else you can feel in this lifetime. So don't give up if you are unsuccessful with your first few attempts. It's all in the state of mind you can achieve that makes any of this possible. As of most recently, many neuroscientists and even physicists are attempting to explain what consciousness is. They are positing that it is a property of the brain and that neurons are responsible for all awareness. They even propose that each individual neuron is independently concious that is correspondent to that neurons dendritic electrical activity and that different types of specialized neurons create many seperate conscious minds. Although, with the collection of all the neurons in the nervous system, this information is consciously transmitted to several different receptors throughout the brain to create the consciousness of the entire self, mainly the only one that needs to be concentrated on. With meditation, you can change the state of mind by concentrating on your inner self to relax your nerves. There are ways to induce the state in which you would be capable of manipulating the electrical activity that goes on in the brain to achieve astral projection with hardly any effort, but at the moment I'm not really at liberty to discuss them, because it is possible to achieve this projection without them and I am still involved with research of why it does what it does! Once you realize your inner self, or reveal your consciousness you can attempt to excite this conciousness into what is known as elevating or exciting it to your higher self which is confined to the realm you are wanting to enter. Keep it up! Practice makes perfect, or atleast more effective!

Not for everyone Stop-. My first go at this was right before bed, and I went really far and I would have gotten out if it wasn't for the supprise and shock at going that quick.

I had examined the room- nevermind, just5 look at the first npost of this thread, and that technique worked wonders for me, except for the fact that I did it as I was falling asleep.

Glad to see that the ebook I found is helping

I tried to project using standing elsewhere technique and i got into a very deep trance with astral vision i could see the entity's around me ! One entity walked straight to me right through the window! got jolted

Today has been a wierd day for me. I`ve been seeing things that arn`t really there or not really happening throughout the day. Also, I`ve had a headace all throughout the day, too. It`s really wierd, but maybe it will help me AP .

Ghost kid, how long have you been trying to ap? I`ve been trying for atleast 6 months now, and i`m not even close to giving up. And when i look back to when i first started APing, i can see how much progress i acctualy acomplished. So don`t give up .

I am trying now for 5 weeks since my first attempt and too can see how much progress i have done it took me 2 hours to get into vibrations on my first attempt

ok! i just had to type something so we can get 130 pages .

Now today, in addition to the seeing things, I`m now feeling things. Such as: someone touching my shoulder, or poking my spine .

vilius, you`re so lucky. 5 weeks and you are that far?! Can you explain your whole process to APing so i can see if it works for me ?

Well i try it four times a day so i dont do anything special

Oh... That`s why. I only try once a day .

Is it anything like sephiroth's experience?

If that happened to me, I would completely have freaked out!

Well, I started a dream journal yesterday to help me lucid dream and it's working beautifully. I can now remember at least 50% of my dreams now.

Same things have happened to me when im attempting to project i can feel that someone is touching my fingers

Hmm... I wonder what does that? Perhaps an entity or your spirit guide in the astral plane.

well first of all i was just sitting here on my computer not trying to project and not tired at all (even though it was late) so im not sure if it was because i was almost falling asleep... the raven told me it might be that hyposomething (always forget what its called) but im not sure because that usually happens when someone falls asleep... anyway i can tell you that it was in fact vary real..

P.S that touch on my shoulder... well.. just say it like this: theres not a lot of things that makes me jump up off my chair and start hitting the air

Like I said before,I'm just glad it didn't happen to me I probably would have scarred me for life

heh well i sometimes feel someone is behind me when im sitting in front of my computer late at night and i look behind me but nothings there.. this is not too scary though but its still weird.. (i know there was something else i was supposed to write... il probably edit this when i remember)

P.S i need more people to help me test my online game witch will be an AP game so if anyone got hamachi or is willing to download it HERE please add this network:

Network name: RMXP-ONLINE
Network password: sephiroth976

il give u an download link for the game from there but you need hamachi to be able to connect to the game (for now) any help would be great

Well, after much backtraking(up to page 88 ) I found the term you couldn't remember that Raven said.

Hypnagogia-- vivid dream-like auditory, visual, or tactile sensations, which are often accompanied by sleep paralysis and experienced when falling asleep or waking up.

I think that sounds like what you experienced somewhat.

yeah i know but i did not fall asleep or anything i was wide awake so i dont know... still pretty weird that i feel someone is here sometimes...

Oh yeah, thats true. I forgot about that. Still, if it was your spirit guide, would it have been able to help you project? Or it could have just been an entity.

i have no idea but whatever it is it seems to be hanging around here sometimes.. oh and i now remembered what i was supposed to write that i forgot i have been able to remember my dreams really good lately, the last 4 days now i have been able to remember something from maybe 5 different dreams every day! i need to reprogram my brain to think of AP each time i dream again

Regardless of it being his spirit guide or entity, it's still a sign that sephiroth was close. If you can (sephiroth) , I'd try just basically asking in your mind for the entity to help you if it is just a normal entity as sephiroth976 says, it's been around lately. So unless (sephiroth) you're a really bad person in life, I doubt it's a bad entity so do what you feel is necessary.
Wish I could try harded during the nights. If only I hadn't so many things to do ... it gets too late into the night then

Heh i would not say im a really bad person but the fact that i really got scared when i felt something was near freaked me out a bit i have not practiced a lot lately but il try again tomorrow as il be home alone (again) and i feel i get more relaxed then, but thanks for the tip il try see if i can communicate with it in some way

P.S i have not felt it around me much lately but whatever it was it must have had some purpose