No poblem. My friend, who is also on this site (Maybe I should get him around to this) tells me of entities around his house (Due to bloodline, family tree etc.) and that when he was trying to AP one time; well I'm not too sure what happened but it regarded one of the entities he sometimes sees/feels presence. The point I'm trying to make is that more than likely it is there for a reason since it has occured more than once. (Maybe it just likes you which would be even better as it would definitley try to help you project )

When i discovered i could heal wounds i got so suprised that i called some kind of entity near me , got freaked out at first but later i found out it was my spiritual guide . Yeah it is true that you can communicate with them while fully awake try channeling some energy in front of you when i did i got a very strong vibrancy in my hand.



I felt that i was pushed away from my body but meh i was too tired and forced myself to sleep by not keeping a focused mind.

So what do the entities have to do with his family?

Oh and Vilius, can your spiritual guide help you AP?

Oh sorry! I left a bit out there. What I meant was that he can see them, his mam can see them and it goes back generations etc. I left that bit out.
But you've made a good suggestion. He doesn't know what they are, maybe some are his ancestors and the ones his ancestors see...are still not known . He doesn't know what they are or his mam but anyway, I'll try to ask him again what happened when he tried to project.

I doubt this only criminals or very bad people end up in lower astral when they die. Also his relatives would better appear to him in dreams as im sure positive entitys dont hang out much around living people as they have better things to do.

Oh okay, that clears things up

You can heal wounds? Like ohysicly close them up?


I got SO close to APing in meditation today! I got the vibrations, but I was half-asleep, so I was like- 'Whaaaa...? Okay, how did I do that?'
No, really, anyone have any ideas on how I did that?

Well, to AP, it is helpful to clear your mind first. Since you were meditating, you were in a perfect state to AP and thus, you went into the vibration stage. However,you were suprised and that broke your concentration.At least, that's my theory

Hmmmm. I've astral traveled. I had experimented to see what would happen. It was pretty cool to see my body. I didn't want to go anywhere at the time from my home. So, I just walked around and floated back to my body. I'm going to do it again. I'll travel over to Japan for a while and check out some stuff.

Wow i just tried to project so i heard someone calling me 2 times i got like omg im doing it after awhile i felt as like im half floating didnt get farther than that :\

I didn't get anywere today. I tried to do the technique where you wake up but don't move and then try to AP. Of course, I forgot and I walked out of bed. I guess I'll have to try again next time.

It`s almost like sephiroth`s experience, but instead of feeling things, it`s more of seeing things. Like just an hour ago, I could have sworn that i saw a face looking at me from outside of a window. So i turn to look at the window, but no one is there .


I would help test your game, but i don`t want to download it on this computer because it`s not mine. But when i get back from Japan, i`ll be sure to download it and test it right away (partly because i helped you get the idea of the game , but mostly because it would be an awsome game to play ). And what happened to your website link on your signature?

Sorry for the two posts, but i don`t know how to quote from two different pages.

................................................... TEACH ME HOW PLZ!!!!!! That`s awsome .


What kind of meditation do you do? I`m thinking of turning to meditation for helping me relax and clear my mind so i can AP while meditating.

Well i just started so i can only weaken the wound but i can treat pain and headaches with ease

Yeah well Vilius and Brandon1499 is helping too we have all been in the game together several times so we know it works i recently added books to the game that people can read but the only book available now is "Tutorial For Dummies" yeah i know probably wrote it wrong but whatever the games got some progress and it would be great to get more people to test it with

anyways i dont get a lot of time to try and project and all that as im working A LOT on the game but il see if i can get some time tonight im home alone till sunday btw i know i cant clear my mind but the other day before i went to sleep i tried and i tried something new witch i think can help people that can clear they`re mind but not relax 100%, ok here goes, i lied down on bed and started to try clear my mind, after a while i started visualizing my energy flowing through my body and i visualized all my energy gathering as a little ball of light in my heart area and i suddenly felt really tired and that i was really relaxed as if all my energy moved out of my muscles but i freaked a little as i never thought that would happen and i got up and i was really tired.. im not sure but i think that for those who cant relax but clear they`re mind should try this

EDIT: oh and i thought my site had a boring design so i started working on it in flash but then again i got distracted by starting on the game and im gonna make a website for the game instead

EDIT 2: oh i love using smiley's <-- LOL

EDIT 3: LOL i was gonna add more smiley`s and i got this message "You have posted a message with more emoticons that this board allows. Please reduce the number of emoticons you've added to the message" LOLOLOLOL

Eh, what a breaker. Try it again, and this time with no one around.

I think he ment he heard voices (not from people around but from the astral) correct me if im wrong

anyways off to bed.. it`s so fun sleeping now cause i almost always remember 4 or 5 dreams when i wake up and the dreams are really cool and interesting almost scary as some of the dreams are of things i could never imagine Oo i mean i dream about stuff i could never have thought off, like the design of this giant weapon that was built to protect earth from something coming from space.. i mean it was around half earth with some damn cool lights and really nice details.. heh i hope i dream something fun tonight

2 Nights ago it was a thunder storm and I think I was having a lucid dream because I said "I want to go back into my body" and it didn't work because I was being chased by something I was throwing punches smacking running at very high speeds no train nor plane could match the speeds i was running at but this person with red mean eyes was chasing me so I said that I'm lucid Dreaming I want to wake up now then a loud thunder clap woke me up I'm ready for this think next time I see it I was minding my own business it came at me as I was running he became stretch-arm strong it just stretched it's arm out and grabbed the back of my shirt that's when I said that I'm lucid Dreaming I want to wake up now and I did.

Yesterday I had a partial projection I was very tired I walked 20 blocks just for exercise and I know that it would make me tired I did that to help me relax when I lay down 10 blocks and back up 10 so 20 blocks total as I laid down relaxing I got the paralysis and slight vibrations with the buzzing noises I projected about 6 inches up out of my body then I was drawn back in I gues my concentration wasn't strong enough but I'm trying again soon.

can you tell me how you do it please? Or at least can you tell me where you learned how to do it?

Also, i was wondering... Does your physical body need to be strong and in good condition to help AP, or is it all mental power?

Yep that is correct i think the voices are spirit guides because i keep hearing the exact same voices a females and a males thought there is some dude hanging around my house with a hat i see him in astral vision or sight-without-sight state i think these sates the same thing but i could be wrong



Wow that seems cool how do i do it? i remember some techniques about dream journals and asking some questions yourself? I dont dream much like 1 dream in 2 days but my brother seems to be dreaming allot but he doesn't remember anything one time he spoke Arabian ,Jewish or something with someone though im sure he doesn't have a slightly interest in paranormal and metaphysical just a day ago he talked with some animal i didnt hear what but im sure it his spirit guide as he said thanks and they often come in form of favorite animal !



Hmm where are a few diseases that help to AP but i think that coughing and similar disease can be annoying and make it harder to concentrate

oo i think i discovered 3 other abilities
1.Telepathy i tried to communicate with a rooster i didnt understand anything but i saw that it was looking at me and saying something hes an aggressive rooster and he didnt pick up on me again
2.I dont know what sometimes i keep seeing images of things that are happening behind me in my mind this appeared just after i tried to communicate with the rooster lol ..
3.I dont know what yesterday i was watching tv and i hear someone opening the door really quietly and after 10 seconds the door opened with the exact sound but only louder

PS: Dammit some Yu-gi-oh geeks keep annoying me check this conversation for example (I'm not a geek)

[09:50:50] >> nori jugioh <-- i think this is clear
[09:51:20] << NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! <-- me saying no
[09:51:27] >> kdl <-- geek saying why
[09:52:11] << SAKAU NEEEEEEEEEEE JAU GAL 18 SKAITYK KAS PARASYTA PRIE HAMACHI VARDO <-- Me saying i say no for 18 time look whats written near my hammachi name

They're so annoying !!

EDIT: oo and the voices say Viliau not Vilius that means they are native

i dunno i have been remembering dreams for the last week and i have no idea why tonight i dreamed 3 different dreams i forgot 2 of them now but they usually comes back to be during the day its`like i wake up i remember them and i forget them when i get up then i remember them sometime later during the day i have done the mantra technique for remembering dreams the few days i wake up and not move as you need to not move in the morning to do it if you wanna know the technique and or download the mantra (shows you how to pronounce it) go to my site ASTRALTRAVELS.TK and yes im still thinking of changing it >_< oh and the message on the fron page, the "if this site looks ****ed" message... its there because at one point my site looked really... well.. ****ed

EDIT: oh and your supposed to say the mantra in your head, not out loud

I know what you mean! I've been doing a dream journal for the past 4 nights and I can remember a whole lot of my dreams now.(too bad they have been boring lately)

Heh i never used a journal but i used that mantra thing before.. dont get to do that much now as i always move when i wake up it just suddenly started about a week ago and i always dream really cool but also weird dreams... some of my dreams is about a girl i never have seen im dreaming like i am this girl like yesterday i was dreaming that i was hiding on some kind of space ship so i could get on this giant weapon surrounding half the planed so i could stop them from using it because i believed that the weapon was to strong and that it would destroy earth too.. and when they noticed me on board they landed and i kinda took the leader as a hostage and stuff... (looked like it was in the future >_<) i mean i did not even know i could dream stuff like that it was really cool also i could see everything happening so clear it was really cool

EDIT: i just though of something, a week ago when i first started to dream this much was the last time i sensed that entity thats been around me.. i wonder.. maybe it could be some kind of connection.. neh im probably going a little to far with this

I had a similar experience as sephs i woke up in the middle of night in another bed and i couldn't move then everything clouded and i drifted back to sleep
and i will definitely try this mantras stuff thanks

EDIT: Ok i tried this mantra stuff the first try was somewhat strange .. i chanted Raom gaom in my mind for awhile then i opened my eyes and closed them again and i saw .. a bottle standing in kitchen lol talk about suprise .. The next attempt was better though i entered a super duper trance then im not felling my body and hearing some sounds i chanted it again i think it worked now no bottle apeared .. anyways i heard some little girl crying i felt so sorry for her is there anyway that this was all created by my mind if so i would be so hoaxed ... by myself .....

you should really try those other mantras too if you have not seen the course videos then you really should they do explain a lot and how to use all the mantras

I think that for remembering dreams, Raom Gaom is an awesome tool and will make the process easier and better.

Yeah i think it is i dreamed something about asking skeptics and believers to take take aura tests in the first day i used it This day has been great to me i learned aerokinesis saw my own aura 3 times but i still cant seem to project i use this technique i visualize a door and after a few minutes i can see through my closed eyelids with some kind of golden radiance anyways i just need to force myself to move through the door and i will project! Well i hope week 6 will bring me luck

I don't know what happened but I tried AP last nite and what happened was that I had the tingling feeling but I thought it was just my imaginations going wild. I just remember looking to the side of me a bit and there's this THING there. I don't know what it was. It was under a blanket but I could see just a part of that blanket moving up and down. Next moment I know this thing forms into a shape and is standing right next to my bed. I did not see a face, it was just a black shadow. I was overcome with fear that I couldn't move for awhile then I told myself to move and I screamed and ran outside. Then suddenly I just opened my eyes and realised it wasn't real.

Was this me AP? What was this black figure?

the tingling feeling was (i think) your astral body preparing itself to leave your body, and not being able to move was sleep paralasis (which is a good sign). This black figure you saw is something similar that happens to other people that have sleep paralasis. Just ignore it or watch it passively because it can`t hurt you. I think if you didn`t force yourself to wake up, you might have APed .

But the thing is...I think I didn't move because of fear overcomin me. Isn't sleep paralysis when you can't move your body ? And I never experienced sleep paralysis before. :/

well im not an expert on such things like sleep paralysis but you could have been scared a lot happened to me once

Hello,

I pretty new this astral projection thing. I think I've been doing it or something like it since I was a kid, but I have never really had any control of where I was or were I am going. Somewhat like a dream, but more real than normal dreams. In these "dreams" or whatever, I talk to two people and old man and woman, named Alpert and Cherone, respectively, and sometimes others. I also think that they show themselves to me in different ways, or maybe they are different spirits, because sometimes I also talk to two Indians across a fire or two shape-shifting "aliens," who call themselves LOM or elohim, in the cabin one of many pyramid-shaped UFOs in the sky, over a cup of tea (which is way good). I talk with the old folks, who I meet in a shopping mall location, about more earthly, modern or societal things. The Indians about more spiritual or nature-type stuff. And, the "aliens" and I talk usually about philosophy and the future, or as they call it "the big stuff". They have been great for my spiritual and non-spiritual understanding of the world, but the guy one the left really likes to practical joke/screw with me a lot (maybe too much ). Before these dreams, I am usually in a deep, relaxed meditative state, something I've been doing for a while. I never seem to have any vibrational feeling before these, but I do usually hear a pop before drifting off. I don't have that silver cord thing going, either. I also seem to wake up with a shot of adrenaline afterwards, but feeling good.

These "dreams" don't seem like an OBE. Though I did have a "dream" once, when I was eleven or so, where I was floating in space with this "bloke" dressed in all white and, he was telling me about the universe and showing me nebulae, stars and galaxies. We went all the way out into there was only darkness at which point he had to leave. I turned and looked back at the universe, which by the way looked like a very beautiful and complex, multi-layered spiral of light and color particles. I was then slingshot back to my body on Earth (quite an experience, but fast) in which I was immediately awake. This was probably one, if not, the most profound spiritual experiences in my life. First question I have, are my "dreams" astral travel or something else?

Second thing, I was wondering, this might be a harder question to answer. I tried doing very conscious astral travel a few days ago, using a similar method to the one suggested by the OP. I was getting the vibrating and tingling sensation. I opened my eyes and saw three shadowy beings in front of me saying something I didn't quite understand, which sort scared me. I guessed I wasn't there yet. So, I tried closing my eyes and drifting off. A few minutes later, my roommate/brother got out of bed to hit the can and knocked me back to reality. When I came back to, my heart felt like it was being pinched by someone and was beating and pounding very fast. I felt like I was going to faint with cold sweat and everything. I felt bad for about an hour or so. I was actually going to have my brother take me to the ER, but I started feeling better. I do have a fairly slow heartbeat (bradycardia), and a very slight heart arrhythmia, but otherwise I have never had or tested with any major heart problem before or recently, by ECG. I am also not too old at the age of 27. There is a chance that I could have had a slight fever, though. My question is, if anyone might know, is can astral travel cause health issues, such as heart attack, stroke or otherwise? Or did I just get freaked and have a mini panic attack? I am guessing just a panic attack, which would be my first. If nothing else, I have a physical tomorrow, so I will ask my doctor about it and ask him for an ECG to make sure the ticker is kicking properly.

Thanks for any help!

I think that your dreams are lucid dreams as entity's can visit you in lucid dreams too and that was just a panic attack i guess

Thanks for the help.

I have had other types of lucid dreams, but they seem somewhat different in a sense that I can change more in my "normal" lucid dreams. I just feel very blessed to be able to have contact with others who can help me so much. I am going through somewhat of a spiritual reawakening for the last year and half or so. I think my spirit was somewhat dying after going through cancer treatment as a teen (I'm all better) and getting out of college and going through the corporate grinder doing sales, which I believe will eat your soul if not careful.

I am just thankful that the past is history. After, I get my heart checked by my doc. I think I'm going to give this astral travel another shot. I'm really pumped about trying this out again. I'm pretty confident that with practice I should be able to get the hang of it. I just have to remember not to get freaked out and remain calm. I just really didn't think that there was going to be people standing around my bed talking and looking at me. I thought I would have to actually travel to find people. Anyways, I guess I was a little shocked.

Again, thank you so much for the help Vilius. BTW, I like the website, very useful.

Namaste and have a good day !

Just remember to ignore these felling's and these entity's as best as you can until you project and thanks for the compliment

Useless but useful post in its own way : i wanna see aliens!!!

Thank you for your post. I will try this tonight. In the past, I have tried to do this and have been unsuccessful. I have experienced jolts and vibrations, yet nothing ever happens after that and I always give up. Your method sounds logical and efficient, so I shall try it for a time and report back to you on how it goes. Once again, thanks for your post.

wow i was very close to projection ! i visualized that i was laying on bed and that my body is getting full of white glowing energy and after awhile then i got full of it i released it from the top of my head into my astral body which i visualized right above me (i saw my foots through my closed eyelids!) so after 3 such releases i felt myself floating and i got a vision of two figures standing right near the window of the balcony one asked the other "is he going to project?" and the other replied " i don't know" so i got stuck in this phase and i gave up interesting thing was that i arose with a jolt in my legs , chest and hands so were a few parts of my body projected?

that seems like an effective technique. I`ll have to try it.

that seems like an effective technique. I`ll have to try it.

That seems like an effective technique. I`ll have to try it .

EDIT: Darn. It submitted my post 3 times .

It does and rofl 3 posts >< i only managed to double post not triple.. yet

also i made a forum for the game check out the link in my sig or see pictures here PICTURES would be cool if you could help us test it and stuff when you got home from japan (ur the one thats in japan now right? i always forget ><)

Hi Vilius and everyone,

It sounds like you were getting pretty damn close. I don't know as far as if you can project parts of you, maybe that's what you see when you are not quite there yet.

I tried again yesterday morning when I awoke. I was doing the wheel method. Where you focus on a wheel in your mind's eye, make it rotate slowly in your mind, until it get so fast it seems to slow down and reverse. The reason I tried it this way is because the first time I tried it, when I and the panic attack, I was looking at the ceiling fan in my bedroom and making it slowdown. It stopped and started to reverse. This is when I began to show the three shadowy figures standing around my bed. I was completely opened eyed the whole time, so I think that is what freaked me out. I think when you do it your eyes actually spin and circles going faster and faster until they seem to reverse, as far as using the wheel method. Outcome of my second attempt was me seeing a very bright light after seeing the wheel starting to reverse and then stopping. My heart was pounding so fast, I felt like it was rising up into my throat. Somewhat like you feel when you go on a rollercoaster the first. I'm a big fan of coasters. I think I might need more meditation beforehand to get me prepared. Maybe a little mantra action thrown in would help. Maybe something like, "As God as my witness, I shall not fear," who knows that sounds so played out XD. I will post when I try it again.

I was thinking something that some people might find interesting. I had cut this out of my original post for length. When I was 15 I had an near-death experience when in the hospital while having treatment for a brain tumor (I'm fine now). The nurse said that my heart stopped for four minutes and change. They said it was probably too much morphine. Let me tell you the story, because I find it quite funny. I also remember the experience very well, and will remember it fully as long as I live. Well, being on the morphine makes you quite tired. So, I drifted off to sleep. I started to have what I thought was having another one of my "crazy" dreams. And let me tell you, my life has been filled with unusual lucid dreams. Well, I started to float in my hospital room. I looked down and saw me sleeping peacefully on my bed. I saw my Mom sitting in a chair across the room reading the book "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan. While looking at my mother, I saw her look up from my book and look at the vitals machine next to my bed. She did not looked to concerned, but she went over and took a close look at the machine. I think she thought that I just became disconnected from the machine, which happened multiple times when I was there. The next thing I see are a bunch or nurses running into my room with a crash cart. As they are preparing the machine, I think to myself "it's not that bad" and was instantly awoken. The nurse asked me if I was okay. I said that I was "only dreaming." I did not know what a near-death experience or OBE was at that time

I saw the silver cord of which people speak. It is very shimmery and very silver. I was very confused about that moment in my life, until I came I read about near-death experiences a couple years ago on the net. I connected the dots, and figured this to be what I went through that day I told my mother about the experience about a year ago, but I don't think she believed me. That's so like my big skeptical Catholic family won't believe anything, unless they experience it for themselves or a priest tells them it is true. Of course, not everyone is like that in my family.

Back to what I was thinking, I was wondering if having a near-death experience makes it easier for you to astrally project. The reason I was thinking this is because I know once I get over the fear, I know I will not have any problems with it. I don't know will have to research, and get back to you on that. It just sort of makes sense, since you know the experience. It may just be that it's more about the type of person you are that really matters. Last night, I had another lucid dream with me and the Indians talking over the fire. They told me in a former life I was an Indian, and my name was "Smoking Leaf." This is funny because I like smoking cigarettes and cannabis. I don't smoke cannabis anymore, but I liked to smoke it a lot in college. Plus it's illegal in the USA, which makes enjoying it and getting it such a hassle. I don't know maybe they were just screwing with me, it is so hard to tell sometimes. They also told me that I was the type of person some would call an "empath," which I didn't know what it meant. But, after reading a description of empaths it completely fits with who I am. Here's a link about emaths, if you are interested:

http://healing.about.com/cs/empathic/a/uc_empathtraits_2.htm

One more thing, I don't know if anybody is interested in theoretical physics, but the world of metaphysics and physics are getting very close to one another. Just think of the different astral and ethereal planes as other dimensions, as well as our own. Scientists say that there are 11 dimensions that they can prove. Maybe there are actually 13, the 3 we can experience, the 7 astral planes and 3 ethereal planes. Or maybe our world should only be considered one dimension, and not three. Anyway, if anyone is interested, here is a link to very easy to understand interview with theoretical physicist Michio Kaku about some very interest science. I feel the world of metaphysics, science and religion will probably all be merged one day. Some of you guys may already know this stuff. I just find this stuff fascinating.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...deoid=641879988

If anyone is interested in this stuff, a great site for this is http://www.kurzweilai.net/.

Sorry for the long post again. I am high context person and like being thorough. Good luck in your travels!

when i was younger about 12 or so i remember having dreams where i could see myself sleeping. i rember like 3or 4 times when i all the sudden felt like i was in the ceilling just staring down at myself sleeping and it was very creepy because when i was in the ceiling i did not feel like me i felt like some creature or thing, but not me yet it WAS me staring at myself could this have been me astral projecting? i can also do it now whever i want but i dont have the courage to go out there im scared of aliens and if i see any ghosts or monsters there i will freakin pass out! lol anyone know how to make that fear go away? i mean i know i can natrualy do it i've been able before yet while im floating im like "no! not this time its to creepy!'' i can think for myself and wake up, that is very hard and it feels like im drowning into this deep black space and then im back to being awake and im so glad i can do this or else i'd be hella scared.

This is most likely astral projection i guess the only thing or rather the most effective thing you can do to overcome your fear is to just do it and realize that there is nothing to be afraid of because ghosts, aliens, negative entities etc.. cant hurt you in any way, so my best advice would be to just go with it and feel that they cant hurt you, try talking to them or something i myself cant AP whenever i want but i have done it (a little) and i know that if i saw anything at all like a shadow, spirit, spider on the wall or anything id totally freak out but as i said they cant hurt you so just try it out and if you see anything at all just know that they cant hurt you

EDIT: id do anything to get to speak to an alien though

I can`t wait to test the game. Also, that`s a good idea with the forms and pics for the game. Maybe the pics will advertise a little so more people will play . Do you think I can be an admin ? Yes, i`m the one in japan right now. I`ll be back on July 9 .

LOL! I read my flight info for when i go back to america, and it says that i`ll be leaving on July 9 at 3:30 pm. Then i`ll be arriving on July 9 at 3:10 pm .

LMAO you have to keep that info on a safe place Oo if u show it to kids they think u can time travel LOL believe me i usually go around doing those pranks on kids like my cousin he thought i was from another planet for 4 years but il go to bed now as its 4:32AM LOL

EDIT: il try asking for help to project in my head again lol it actually seems to work i do get the vibrations pretty often in dreams now....

I've been having a few lucid Dreams Lately and I had a flying dream earlier this morning.
very few times I can get out consciously most times I just end up having very vivid dreams.

LOL ! 4 years? That`s so funny .

Lately, after i finished a dream, i usualy wake up and remember the dream. So i can remember my dreams real easily now, but the down side is that I wake up after every single dream .

Ok yesterday then i was in attempt to project i saw a spider near my foot (the physical one) i dont know how i saw it but i get a lot of pictures with stuff happening in my mind or sounds that will happen a few seconds in the future and they always do! .. Anyways i was so freaked out ( i hate spiders) and then something fury touched me i was like OMG i jumped out and ran from there

EDIT: Yeah i feel like an empath too yesterday i saw a crying total stranger and i wanted to start crying myself it was even hard to stand near him

EDIT: I wrote wanter not wanted lol :|
YET ANOTHER EDIT:I wrote hen not then :\