i would say it just went a little off course, sorry guys

Hey thats ok i talked off topic here a lot too its ok as long as new people continue to come here and ask about AP thats what this thread is all about anyways helping others learn AP

This thread is deff not dead.....just needs to be more active...

I did it I did it I did it I did it!!!!!! PROJECTION IS THE COOLEST EXPERIENCE IN THE F"ING WORLD (or out of it?)

So Ill just kind of through out the important stuff to me and please comment on anything that seems interesting.
(1) I seem to get full body vibrations really fast if i lay on my left side after I have gone through a meditation/ full body relaxation sesion. (note it is useless if I am really tired because I just go to sleep)
(2) The north south head axis thing seems to have something of a point to it. I have done exercises for about a month and all of the progress has been made in the north south position. By the way I am not just saying that because I read it in a book. I actually had all of my progress in the one position and then checked to see if north south was a factor.
(3) My vision was only comming through in black and white. I could see clearly though (kind of like looking through a black and white view finder on an old video camera) I have read that things like the quality of your vision are effected by how much energy is actually involved in the projection, or that close proximity to your phisical body can cause some anomolys.
(4)damn controlling movement is a son of a gun. I came out of my body and made about 5 miles an hour though my room and through the wall.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts or pointers
thanks

well that is quite interesting, i must keep that method in mind, thanks. and by the way, everything you do in the astral plane requires using willpower to move. i find those viberations feel kinda cool.
you should make a new post and let people read your technique. im sure everyone is open to all different methods.
and for the record what did you visualize to push yourself out of your physical self?

Wow i learned a cool skill i can make myself fell just as i was falling or rotating im sure this could be used in projection but i dont try anymore i just meditate and then after maybe a half year i will be able to project at will

That must be a really wierd feeling to being able to make yourself fall without falling, the only time that ever happened to me was when i woke up from a dream and also when i almost projected and got pulled back into my body. interesting. and you gotta have strong willpower to be able to project at will. sounds sweet!

Wow I just tried it and I think I might of came close. I'm not sure though so here's what happened.

I laid down and started telling myself I was going to Astral Project while trying out a few different methods. After about 5-10 minutes I imagined my Astral body floating over my real body in bed. At this point I heard a loud "WOOSSHH" sound and my whole body felt heavy and completly relaxed. I then started breathing hard(could of been because I thought it was working) then I felt my upperbody start to rise up very slowly. Then I heard one of my family members talking from another room and I what was happing slowly stopped. After this I tried a few more times and got no results. So was I close to Astral Projecting or was I just imagining it?

Okay, so I've come here a few times and posted in this topic I think twice. I read once (in this topic) that a person induced AP by feeling his astral body moving in his body and then just willed himself to slip out and explore. Guess what, I just did that exact method!! I was sleeping on my left side and started to feel my astral body slip around. With my eyes still closed, (I know because I had to open them to return back to my body), I could see the floor below me. I have a loft bed that is five feet off the ground, so I was a bit hesitant to continue slipping off the bed just incase this wasn't AP. I did it anyway because I could already see the differences in the room. I didn't look all around my room, I was more focused on getting out of there and exploring the rest of my house, (this was sometimes in between 5:40am and 7:00am). It took me a while to get out of my room, I remember going kind of slow at first, but then fast as soon as I reached the threshold of my room. Going down the stairs, I could tell that it was early morning already because the lights were on and my father was searching through the refrigerator. I tried to see if he could sense me in the room for a while, but no such luck. It was then that I remembered that I was sleeping upstairs. I could feel the position that I was sleeping in, but I wasn't forced back into my body just then. I could have continued to explore, but I wanted to see if what I had just experienced was real or not. I ran downstairs and found my mother in the kitchen instead of my father. He had already left for work a while ago, but seeing as he NEVER leaves before 6am, I could have been experiencing this in very distorted time.

I'll keep you guys updated on any further tests.

No vibrations, no north-to-south, just as easy as slip out and then open your eyes when you're ready to go back. Some may say that this is a dream, but considering that I hardly remember my dreams and considering how much control I had over this whole thing, it was AP.

well if you heard a woosh sound and you heard your family talking, i believe u astral projected
especialy if your body felt heavy and you fely your other self come out. lol, the funny thing is, is that i never tried it at will

Every time I give in more to astral projection, it seems as though the notion of not being able to return to my body presents itself even more somewhere in my mind. I travel so far, so fast that the actual projection in real-time only lasts seconds, but the distance covered and at the speeds I travel, the projection leaves the impression on my mind that the experience lasted as an extended duration. I believe there is a constant rate at which energy travels in the AP, although is limitless and completely unconcievable by the human mind as a whole. Once my consciousness steps outside of my physical body, it experiences instantly rapid acceleration, since it is being integrated into the unimaginable speed at which the energy in the AP constantly flows. Once whatever is doing the actual percieving of this projection (whether it be my mind, soul, or astral body) reaches the peak of the speed of the energy flow it is being exposed to that it can handle, I autonomically will myself back to my body to avoid surpassing my astral body's current threshold level of consciousness. If only I could condition my mind to be able to handle much, much more exposition to this powerful energy source, I would then therefore be able to travel exponentially faster and farther, and maybe even stay longer than previously, to be exposed to gain more insights from outside and of itself in regards to the universe.

I have used the rope climbing technique with good success when it comes to the actual exit, but damned if I can get myself into the vibrational state just through meditation. I'm sure it will come with practice though. I always just use meditation and relaxation to get me as deeply tranced as I can and then just allow myself to try and slip off into sleep while laying on my left side. Usually I wake up with vibrations a few minutes later and can move on to the rope climbing for the exit.

I read that one technique is to listen for the high pitched noise that you can sometimes hear in your head when it is really quiet and completely focus on that for a few minutes. This is supposed to bring on the vibrational stage. For me it just spead up meditation but i didnt quite make it all the way.

Any pointers for quickly getting vibrations? Do you think that energy raising is really important for projection or just total relaxation and trance?

Out of curiosity has anyone tried to view akashic records or go to the akashic library? Im keeping all my projections short right now while I learn, but I cant wait until im ready to travel a little further.

If you have seen any reccords how was the acuracy? Where there lots of reality distortions that made it difficult to understand?

hi there laddies and gentlemen my name is phil and i would like to share my story with you. i will be updating this as i go as there is much to tell, we'll discuss theories and possible explanations so stay tuned for updates!

i have had outer body experiences. the first time this happed to me i was 6 years old. i was abused by my stepfather. he picked me up from school and tried to kill me. he kicked and punched me up the stairs, chased me to my room and began to strangle me in a fit or rage. it was at this moment i began to astral travel. when i remember this i can see myself from a third person perspective in the corner of the room up high by the ceiling. then next thing i can remember is being in hospital. i always realized this was astral projection but only recently considered the possibility i had died.

the second occasion was less dramatic but quite mad all the same. i was chilling out in my recliner arm chair tilted back. i fell asleep and snoozed for a bit. i heard a noise cant remember what but i wanted to get up. i felt the paralyzed sensation (this is the brain temporarily disconnecting neural paths to limbs to prevent sleepwalking. sleep walkers have less protection from this.) i began to fight the paralyzed state trying harder and harder to get up. then i jolted forward and i looked back to see myself laying back sleeping. then i fell back and woke up.

all my life i have had strange experiences to do with subconscious thought, time, dreams, coincidences, ufo phenomenon (i spotted a ufo a couple of years back) concous trance states. buzzing sounds when i fall asleep. strange buzzing sensations on my feet and I'm freaking out as i type this cause i totally forgot all about them! electricity fields on me. bright lights. very deep dreams of time traveling, flying dreams, floating dreams. i am a light sleeper so i tend to remember my dreams well and im a good riser my brain works better in the morning (most of the time). premonitions but I've never sleepwalked.

time travel dreams:

I've had dreams where i thought i had traveled through time. the other night i had a dream of doing something the same thing over and over again in different time periods like generations spanning 100's of years

I've even had religious experiences!

one night i was walking down the main road at 3am (and no i wasn't high). i was approaching a pedestrian crossing and it went off. I looked around and couldn't see anyone, so i carried on walking and i passed the crossing and i thought i just look back as you would and right next to the traffic lights on green was a neon light crucifix. it was from the funurel parlor across the street but it was incredibly striking how it was next to the green traffic light in a perfect view. i suddenly felt a great sense of well being and went on my way. there is a strange twist to this story as the very next days there were news reports across the world of stature cows in churches of drinking milk.


i had a less "Christian" religious experience involving astronomy back in 1999. its a bit of a long story and its late so i will continue this another time.......
remember this..... everything is connected

If you want to call it a religious experience...okay. I like to look at it as if the religions are having an astral experience. I think it is these out of body experiences that spawned many...if not all of the world religions to date. People claim to see incarnations of 'God', Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, or other incarnations of deities from around the world. It is said that these entities take the form of whatever will comfort you the most. If its Jesus, that's cool, they could also take the forms of animals...hence the Native American spirit guides.

The astral realm is what you make it. Since you were comforted by the green cross, I take it that you are a Christian of some sort.

wow, i guess there are many ways to do many things by just using your mind

I just wanted to say that reality is what you make it if you really believe that there is nothing after death then you will end up in a void everything that humanity has thinked of is real in AP and your beliefs will judge where you will be after death !

???? Why do you say that? Perception is what you may make it but do you really think that we can alter reallity to that extent? Isn't there a reason that the egyptians and vikings describe the same levels and experiences as modern out of body explorers? Why would you think that you could change more than just how you see things, and what sort of entities are attracted to you? Do you really think that believing in nothing could kill you after death?

I am curious to know how much personal thoughts and experiences can affect the projection experience. Any ideas or experiences?

honestly i dont know where i will go after death. if you think you will die and go into the internal void then maybe it would be true for the ones who believe that, will happen. if you think that you would wound up in heaven or hell, maybe this would also be true for the ones who believe in this, and if you think that you would wound up in eternity on earth with your spirit free to roam, for the ones who believe in this might happen.

i persume that what you believe in is where you will go in the afterlife.

thats what i think anyway, and i believe that i will wound up eternity on earth, i would love that, i'de like to watch humanity evolve

or what if none of these are possible... what next?

What im saying here is that there are a few astral and mental planes but those planes have sub-planes and those sub-planes have sub-sub-planes so basically there are Trillions of trillions planes with new ones being created each second if you would project you could fly into a picture and it would be real because you would be transported to that pictures plane



I never said that but if you are obsessed with thought that there is nothing after death it will happen



Thats hell dude i wouldn't like to be stuck on earth forever you can teleport to different planes in AP remember ?

Thats hell dude i wouldn't like to be stuck on earth forever you can teleport to different planes in AP remember ?
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lol, yeah i totaly forgot when i wrote it, , what about pergatory?
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and i found a site it seems pretty cool, www.worldofalternatives.com, you can download frequencies wich you listen to, theres astral projection, OOBE, telepathy, power sleep etc...
the tracks give you different brain frequencies to help you out with these different things, , the only problem is that it costs, $20 for one, and $40 for 3. i am not sure whether to buy the tracks or not. i cant wait to get paid

Hello Socrates... I admire your knowledge on this topic and I have a few questions I was hoping you would answer

I have been interested in AP for a while, and I feel that I would be able to do so if I tried successfully. The problem is, I am quite quite scared of my surroundings.... as in I get scared very easily and I am constantly fearing my surroundings when I am alone. This is probably because of various experiences and the fact that I am crazy I am a bit scared to try AP because of this. I thought that maybe practicing AP would be a way for me to become more peaceful with my surroundings, or simply help me fear things less.... would you agree with this at all, or no? Also, I read a piece written by someone who claims he can AP and it basically teaches you a long method of how to do so. The thing is, he claims you can project from your body and go do things as you would in the physical, say, go over to a friends house and observe him watching tv and then when you come back, you will remember and be aware of everything that happened. Is this true? Can you really travel to places that exist in the world, or only places you create in your mind? Could you say, "fly" to Europe and visit attractions? Is time perceived the same way, meaning while you are projecting, if your body is only asleep for 30 minutes, you will only experience 30 minutes of time in the astral? I hope my questions are understandable! Thanks!

Defuzed, your post on your experiences with AP is extremely fascinating and enlightening. I too have had many occurances where I was the 3rd person to many of the waking and sleeping visions. I never knew (until this very moment) that this is an aspect of AP. That withstanding, I can safely say that I too have experienced AP and sensing a longing to return to my body when away for extended periods of time. I have on several occassions AP across several states (NY to MD) through what appeared as portals in space-time. I have had a person encounter with another AP'er in transition across great distances. In a few occassions I've experienced seeing many many people standing or moving about in an altered state (out of the normal periphery) of existance, heard unusual harmonics, and felt what seem like many pins and needles across my entire body right before and after AP. This must be the effect of my inner being severing from the physical plain of existance to travel. Thus my physical body is truly a space suit Interestingly enough my self residual projection of what I am varies from a four legged animal to some gracious flying creature. I suppose these are form that are most appropriate for the circumstance. In the case of flying I would assume a form that would allow for extreme distance travel in the defined space time. In the case of the 4 legged form it was to allow for fast mobility on land.

I have only once experienced fear of losing my cohesion with this plane of existance as I felt my AP form begin to dematerialize. I wonder if this was a proponent to time travel and not the nightmare I labeled it as.

Thank you tremendously for connecting the dots. I must meditate on this further!

I first wanted to thank Socrates for starting this thread. It was through this that I learned of astral projection. I have started trying to project the last three days. All three trials I have had a symptom of projection. The first day I was hearing popping noises, on the second day I felt as if someone had shocked me in the back (kind of like the joke pens that shock you... it's hard to explain). The real major symptom happened today at about 4 pm, I was bored so I decided to go try and project. I got really relaxed and almost dozed off, but still remained concious. I experienced a woosh sound then the vibrations through my whole body they suprised me so much that my heart started pounding. This caused me to come out of my relaxed state and I stopped for today. I was just wondering if anyone here could give me a few pointers to project, I feel as though I came very close. Thanks for your help and patience.

Is this thread dead?

no it's not dead. It's activity lows down a little from time to time, but people usually resurrect it once they've had new/different experiences. Also, as new people join, they bring up whatever they want to bring up. Give it some time.

Thanks for the reply

I can't wait to get out of my body, I can get to the vibration part

hi, Thanks for showing your technique,i have tried your technique and it actually worked. but i didn't do the 4 am thing i just did it late at night when i felt tired. After this experiance i remembered that this is hapened to me before when i was about 4. It was incredible.

What is it like? Do you visualize the whole thing or do you have "Eyes" that you have to open?
I am so excited to experience it that my heart races when the vibrations happen and that gets me distracted.
Any tips?

For the vibrations that can distract you, just tell yourself to keep calm and relaxed. Don't get over-excited like I sometimes do. But what happened to me, will soon happen to you, and that it is you will get used to them every time you attempt to Project after a while. Once you're used to this, you can easily get pass through that stage.

I had another experience last night, and I used a different technique. I was laying on my back in my bed. It was dark, but I could still see the outlines of my hands from the small amount of light emitted from my computer. Keeping my eyes open at first, I held my two index fingers up with space between them. I made it so I was seeing double by focusing on something between them. Have any of you ever looked at something for so long that everything in your field of vision clouded together? I knew that was going to happen, so I used it as a sort of meditation. After my vison was completely clouded over, I brought my hands down while still keeping my eyes relaxed and clouded. Soon, the vibrations started. My body wanted to fight it, but I forced myself to sustain the experience. Finally I think I was in sleep paralysis, because I tried to sit up and started to fly through my room.

Here's where I started to have some fun and experiment. I went over to my window. I distinctly remember seeing dead leaves beeing blown up against the open screen. I didn't care about that and decided to go straight through the screen, forcing my right hand through first. I could actually feel the texture of the screen as it passed through my body, strange but not unpleasant. Flying through the air around my house, I was doing acrobatic maneuvers. I didn't venture far...it being the second time that I was purposely out of my body. Suddenly I saw an image of two figures running towards my body. I thought they were my parents...but I'm not to sure. I let out a yell of sorts and decided to return back to my body.

Tonight, I'm gonna try the same thing...but venture farther away. My goal is to someday make it as far as Stonehenge or The Sphinx.


Does anyone here know how to call beings to you? Or to time travel? Those are the two most interesting aspects about OBEs that I want to 'take advantage of'...well, that and the vast knowledge of human existence.

I hope this thread gets up and going... I really like talking about this.

I think so!

How can you say its dead when both of you just got here...? Be patient. people will talk. Astral Travel/Projection is something that takes time and concentration. It's not an overnight achievement. I just had my first two experiences this past week, and I've been trying for the past five or six months. People will post in here when they have something to say. In the meantime, you can occupy yourself by reading the past pages if you're looking for answers.

Lol it was for me, but i suppose it just varies in different people.

Hey Wolf what was your progress like? Were the past months exciting or did you usually not get symptoms/vibrations? I have been trying for a week and got the vibrations but I hope I will project before the 6 month mark... and if I upset anyone by asking if it was dead I am sorry I was just hoping I could get some pointers. Thanks for keeping the thread alive, I am glad I found out about this. I would have been disappointed in myself if I had not found out about AP/OBE and lived my whole life without knowing.

I tried this method a couple hours ago and was successful. I have a history of sleep paralysis, and unintentionally astral traveling. This was definitely the first time I was able to achieve it on purpose, without first going through sleep paralysis.

I was conscious, yet my body was in a completely relaxed state. My body I guess seemed to vibrate, I would describe it more like a numbing sensation all throughout. As soon as I reached a certain point where I became aware I'm not asleep, but "through", umm I'm unsure how to describe it...I began to experiment a bit. At first I lifted my right leg, and onto my hands. I freaked out however when I raised my head, a fear of not being able to return scared me, and I lost it. I didn't become fully "awake", but I wasn't able to go "through" again, noises in the house kept distracting me. My body continued fully relaxed in vibrate/numb mode. I feel weird that I'm able to do this, I don't think a lot of people would understand...Well, that's my experience, I'll see if I can do it again tonight, or a little later.

Ps. It helped that I did feel a bit sleepy.

Ignore all those sounds after some time your mind will start to filter them automatically and only the higher frequency's (the guides etc) will prevail bringing you easier meditation

I tried this again last night and this time it didn't work i wonder if you need to have the perfect conditions for it to work.

If the sounds distract you then try wearing ear plugs, thats what I use and it helps a lot.

the earplugs will only help you with sounds coming from outside the body. The rumbling noises come from within. If you actually research astral travel, it i believed that the pineal gland and the cerebellum (in the brain) become upon triggering the Out of Body experience. If anything, earplugs would make it worse. Try talking with your ears open first...and then with your ears plugged. You can still hear yourself because the voice comes from within.

BTW The problems were from the outside

"noises in the house kept distracting me" -Roxio Posted Yesterday, 09:39 PM

Has anyone here had bad experiences in the astral? If so can you post about them

thanks

I once had a neg tell me: Hey wanna suck c*ck ... <--- censure sorry

Another experience was then i was meditating in the forest and some kind of goblins came and started jumping around me

I had an experience with astral super hearing hard to explain there were hundreds of sounds all around me and i got a headache >_<

Remind me to never AP in Lithuania...

Ya lol

I have had lucid dreams where I could go anywhere I wanted to. I traveled around my downstairs then all of a sudden I appeared in a random house... most of the times in these experiences my mind was very clouded and it was apparent that I was merely dreaming... is lucid dreaming supposed to be the same thing as "astral travel" because if it is.... and your mind is clouded or limited by your dreaming then it sounds pretty lame to me.... even in lucid dreaming I had a feeling of limited control..... is this the same for astral traveling? does astral traveling give you 100% control as if awake? all the experiences i've had like that were dreamy.... and not at all real because my surroundings had very dream aspects to them... not even close to being reality

So do you have control or not? In the start you said you could go anywhere you wanted to, and at the end you said you had limited control.

It's sort of hard to explain. I can go where I want to go, but there are times when I can't... for example, there are times when I can't turn and look at something if I want to, but I'm still able to possibly move forward..... it seems like when that happens in lucid dreaming my brain is taking back control of my dreams it is as if it's a battle or something. [ a little side note, i just had this really strange sense of deja vu..... i swear i have done this same thing before...]

it's a strange part of my dreams that is rather tormenting where I will try as hard as I can to look up or something of that nature and I cannot physically (in the dream) do it... (this happens in non lucid dreaming also... and i wish it was not that way)

Anyone of you heard about chakras basically the more chakras are open the easier projection is ?

woah i get that i think
i'll be laying in my bed feeling like i am floating
then all of a sudden i'll hear someone say my name or someone pulling on me
its a bit shocking