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Congrats ! did you project? i think thats your guide yesterday i was watching transformers and i swear i heard a woman laugh but there was only 7 watchers (7 ! everyone was watching dammed Simpson's -.- )
This rocks !! i opened all spine chakras up to gates of ajna and i cant wait until its open ! The very moment im writing this i fell it tingling and i could swear i had a very clear dream today!!
Benefits of Ajna Chakra Meditation Technique (Third Eye):
Primary Benefits:
* Builds the power of intuition.
* Increases and refines awareness.
* Provides clarity of thought, insights and wisdom.
* Allows one to connect to the "inner guru" or "higher self" for guidance and inspiration.
* Builds the Yogic Mind or Neutral Mind which is free from attachments of the ego.
* Build the power to read others and detect their subtle and gross energetic conditions.
* Promotes flow of Kundalini Energy into the higher centers.
Secondary Benefits:
* Promotes the ability to have Lucid Dreams.
* Allows for non-verbal communication.
* Builds focus and one pointedness of the mind.
* Improves your vision.
* Promotes health and wellbeing.
Benefits of Ajna Chakra Meditation Technique (Third Eye):
Primary Benefits:
* Builds the power of intuition.
* Increases and refines awareness.
* Provides clarity of thought, insights and wisdom.
* Allows one to connect to the "inner guru" or "higher self" for guidance and inspiration.
* Builds the Yogic Mind or Neutral Mind which is free from attachments of the ego.
* Build the power to read others and detect their subtle and gross energetic conditions.
* Promotes flow of Kundalini Energy into the higher centers.
Secondary Benefits:
* Promotes the ability to have Lucid Dreams.
* Allows for non-verbal communication.
* Builds focus and one pointedness of the mind.
* Improves your vision.
* Promotes health and wellbeing.
Actually I read in an astral travel book that before you attempt to project you should close the chakras. The book said if they are closed the body is less likely to get stuck with the physical and you are more protected from an attack by negs. and such...
However the book does state that if they are excercised in meditation it helps to project, this is probably what you are saying. You aren't supposed to leave them opened while away from the body.
However the book does state that if they are excercised in meditation it helps to project, this is probably what you are saying. You aren't supposed to leave them opened while away from the body.
Hey guys. Ok i've tried to astral project for the past week now with no real effect.
I have used two different methods : 1) the one socratis started this topic with ie. standing up 4 o'clock in the morning then drifting of again.
: 2) is lying and watching an object actually staring at the object until you drift away.
Now i HAVE had sensations with both : 1) in socratis's way i heard popping sounds and once someone called my name.
: 2) With the other way i have had jolts but nothing else.
I don't use chakrams nor do i know what it is.... I guess all i want to know if there is a better method what it is. and also what "things" i can use or to to aid in my "quest".
Any help will do tnx.
Ps. if any1 has a view of the connection between wiccae and astro travelling also tell me thanx.
I have used two different methods : 1) the one socratis started this topic with ie. standing up 4 o'clock in the morning then drifting of again.
: 2) is lying and watching an object actually staring at the object until you drift away.
Now i HAVE had sensations with both : 1) in socratis's way i heard popping sounds and once someone called my name.
: 2) With the other way i have had jolts but nothing else.
I don't use chakrams nor do i know what it is.... I guess all i want to know if there is a better method what it is. and also what "things" i can use or to to aid in my "quest".
Any help will do tnx.
Ps. if any1 has a view of the connection between wiccae and astro travelling also tell me thanx.
http://www.caminosalser.com/contenidos/img...ral/chakras.jpg
That is an address to a chakras pic. The are supposed to help projection, you are supposed to stimulate them by having energy flow to and around them. (not really shure how to master transmitting energy)
-The technique I use is meditation, you meditate using progressive meditation (you relax specific parts of your body one after one) after your whole body is relaxed you try to focus on a geometric shape or a simple object. You can also repeat a mantra inside your head, like, I astral project. Try to keep your mind from wandering and you will soon be in a deep meditation. Then you simply have to wait, you experience noises and such like Socrates described. Do NOT let the noises scare you or you won't project. If you wait long enough you will probably get the vibrations ( this is supposed to be the symptom right before projection although not all get this). Then you will either just float out or roll/fall out and you have projected
BTW This method is easier to do while a little tired.
Sorry if I'm not extremely specific but if you have any more questions about this method I will give more detailed instruction.
hope this helps
That is an address to a chakras pic. The are supposed to help projection, you are supposed to stimulate them by having energy flow to and around them. (not really shure how to master transmitting energy)
-The technique I use is meditation, you meditate using progressive meditation (you relax specific parts of your body one after one) after your whole body is relaxed you try to focus on a geometric shape or a simple object. You can also repeat a mantra inside your head, like, I astral project. Try to keep your mind from wandering and you will soon be in a deep meditation. Then you simply have to wait, you experience noises and such like Socrates described. Do NOT let the noises scare you or you won't project. If you wait long enough you will probably get the vibrations ( this is supposed to be the symptom right before projection although not all get this). Then you will either just float out or roll/fall out and you have projected
BTW This method is easier to do while a little tired.
Sorry if I'm not extremely specific but if you have any more questions about this method I will give more detailed instruction.
hope this helps
Thanx alot hey So.... i just concentrate on the object???? not myself standing in the room watching myself sleep??
If so i guess it would be much esier
Thanks alot
If so i guess it would be much esier
Thanks alot
Yes, you just have to visualize an object and concentrate on it. This isn't a real object in your room this is just to keep your mind from wandering. Make sure your eyes are closed and you pretend to see it. If you can get to the vibrations your body will just seperate naturally.
Hello folks its me Defuzed! i am here today to tell you about a dream i had in 2004.
2 security guards man handle me and take to a round windowless, high rise building. there are 2 sliding doors in front of me and they slide open. the security guards push me into the building and i fall to the floor. i look around, it is round and very strange. i begin to float upwards slowly, up and further up i go. when i finally get to the top of this weird vertical tunnel, i can see what looks like a big train station departure lounge. there are lots of people all dressed in gray suits carrying brief cases all walking back and forth like as if they are commuting to work. then i notice that they are actually walking on what appears to be a glass floor. all the people are on their own and nobody talks to or looks at each other and they look like soulless humans. then i suddenly begin to fall back from where i came from. when i land on the floor, the sliding doors open and the security guards came and pick me up and carry me outside. they let go of me and it seems i am free to leave. i am in what looks like a prison courtyard. there are lots of people here. they all seem to be wearing casual clothing and look a lot more colorful compared to what i saw previously but they are just hanging around, talking amongst themselves. i notice a couple of weird what can only be described as "weird things" a few people wearing strange suits. elongated clown suits with stretched out arms and legs and they seem to float around the courtyard. i can't make any sense of this and it and the people seem too animated, mad even and it freaks me out. so i walk away from all the people. i see what looks like a motorway flyover a river. i am at the edge of the river watching the shore lapping at the concrete. i notice some of the concrete around me is smashed up as if there had been a war. i look to my left and i notice a guy sitting on a broken concrete block. he is just sitting there staring at the floor and he looks depressed. he looks like a biker dude with lots of tattoos and he is sporting a hulk hogan mustache. i ask him "whats happening here?" and he replies "they nuked us" i said "who?" then he showed me his right hand and on it was a tattoo of the American flag. then i wake up.
shortly after experiencing this dream there was the saying "glass ceiling" being spouted about in the media.
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The term glass ceiling or glass elevator refers to situations where the advancement of a person within the hierarchy of an organization is limited. This limitation is normally based upon some form of discrimination, most commonly being gender and race. but in this case the rich and poor!
This situation is referred to as a "ceiling" as there is a limitation blocking upward advancement, and "glass" (transparent) because the limitation is not immediately apparent and is normally an unwritten and unofficial policy. The "glass ceiling" is distinguished from formal barriers to advancement, such as education or experience requirements.
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i swear to you i never knew the meaning of this and i actually never heard of this saying until after i had the dream. thou i am prepared to say that i might of heard this saying without knowing so this could be a subconscious subliminal moment!
but i soon became aware of this saying from the media. i don't know if you have noticed but the media tends to have time periods of using terms or buzzwords. perhaps manipulation or following suit. this made me remember my dream. you can draw your own conclusions to the rest of the dream and it would be great to hear your views!
thanks for your time and i will be posting more stuff later...laters..Defuzed
2 security guards man handle me and take to a round windowless, high rise building. there are 2 sliding doors in front of me and they slide open. the security guards push me into the building and i fall to the floor. i look around, it is round and very strange. i begin to float upwards slowly, up and further up i go. when i finally get to the top of this weird vertical tunnel, i can see what looks like a big train station departure lounge. there are lots of people all dressed in gray suits carrying brief cases all walking back and forth like as if they are commuting to work. then i notice that they are actually walking on what appears to be a glass floor. all the people are on their own and nobody talks to or looks at each other and they look like soulless humans. then i suddenly begin to fall back from where i came from. when i land on the floor, the sliding doors open and the security guards came and pick me up and carry me outside. they let go of me and it seems i am free to leave. i am in what looks like a prison courtyard. there are lots of people here. they all seem to be wearing casual clothing and look a lot more colorful compared to what i saw previously but they are just hanging around, talking amongst themselves. i notice a couple of weird what can only be described as "weird things" a few people wearing strange suits. elongated clown suits with stretched out arms and legs and they seem to float around the courtyard. i can't make any sense of this and it and the people seem too animated, mad even and it freaks me out. so i walk away from all the people. i see what looks like a motorway flyover a river. i am at the edge of the river watching the shore lapping at the concrete. i notice some of the concrete around me is smashed up as if there had been a war. i look to my left and i notice a guy sitting on a broken concrete block. he is just sitting there staring at the floor and he looks depressed. he looks like a biker dude with lots of tattoos and he is sporting a hulk hogan mustache. i ask him "whats happening here?" and he replies "they nuked us" i said "who?" then he showed me his right hand and on it was a tattoo of the American flag. then i wake up.
shortly after experiencing this dream there was the saying "glass ceiling" being spouted about in the media.
----------------------EXPLANATION FOR THE TERM GLASS CEILING--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The term glass ceiling or glass elevator refers to situations where the advancement of a person within the hierarchy of an organization is limited. This limitation is normally based upon some form of discrimination, most commonly being gender and race. but in this case the rich and poor!
This situation is referred to as a "ceiling" as there is a limitation blocking upward advancement, and "glass" (transparent) because the limitation is not immediately apparent and is normally an unwritten and unofficial policy. The "glass ceiling" is distinguished from formal barriers to advancement, such as education or experience requirements.
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i swear to you i never knew the meaning of this and i actually never heard of this saying until after i had the dream. thou i am prepared to say that i might of heard this saying without knowing so this could be a subconscious subliminal moment!
but i soon became aware of this saying from the media. i don't know if you have noticed but the media tends to have time periods of using terms or buzzwords. perhaps manipulation or following suit. this made me remember my dream. you can draw your own conclusions to the rest of the dream and it would be great to hear your views!
thanks for your time and i will be posting more stuff later...laters..Defuzed
Help! someone! I've been wondering something for a while, and I was thinking that maybe Socrates or anyone else on this forum may have some recommendations or tips for me.
I have had a lot of lucid dreams in the past, but that's not all. In the fully waking state I'm able to close my eyes and have a clear visualization, let's say, of Paris or of any other place that I choose. I can touch things and feel things during my visualizations and it's crystal clear as though I'm actually there.
I can smell the smell of the woods, or a campfire. I can pick things up and look at them. If you give me a photo of a country farm, if I close my eyes, I'm there.
I've been told by a very wise person that I may be in the beginning stages of being able to consciously atral project.
I need help as to "how do I develop this ability even more so that I can actually astral project during the waking state." I've heard of other people who are able to do this and I'd also like to follow that path.
Thank you.
I have had a lot of lucid dreams in the past, but that's not all. In the fully waking state I'm able to close my eyes and have a clear visualization, let's say, of Paris or of any other place that I choose. I can touch things and feel things during my visualizations and it's crystal clear as though I'm actually there.
I can smell the smell of the woods, or a campfire. I can pick things up and look at them. If you give me a photo of a country farm, if I close my eyes, I'm there.
I've been told by a very wise person that I may be in the beginning stages of being able to consciously atral project.
I need help as to "how do I develop this ability even more so that I can actually astral project during the waking state." I've heard of other people who are able to do this and I'd also like to follow that path.
Thank you.
Nice dream defuzed 
so does this means that the concrete was nuked by america ?
Now about chakras its good to have them open because energy flows easily through open chakras it helps in projection and because chakras are associated with different senses it strenghtens the fellings in AP third eye which is responsible for seeing things in the mind it is responsible for lucid dreams and AP by removing shadow memories and other great benefits which help with AP now by no way could you attract negs if your Vishuddha is open Vishuddha is responsible for pureness of the mind and negs can only attack dirty minded people
so does this means that the concrete was nuked by america ?Now about chakras its good to have them open because energy flows easily through open chakras it helps in projection and because chakras are associated with different senses it strenghtens the fellings in AP third eye which is responsible for seeing things in the mind it is responsible for lucid dreams and AP by removing shadow memories and other great benefits which help with AP now by no way could you attract negs if your Vishuddha is open Vishuddha is responsible for pureness of the mind and negs can only attack dirty minded people
QUOTE(bustacrab @ Aug 1 2007, 02:47 AM) 
I have had lucid dreams where I could go anywhere I wanted to. I traveled around my downstairs then all of a sudden I appeared in a random house... most of the times in these experiences my mind was very clouded and it was apparent that I was merely dreaming... is lucid dreaming supposed to be the same thing as "astral travel" because if it is.... and your mind is clouded or limited by your dreaming then it sounds pretty lame to me.... even in lucid dreaming I had a feeling of limited control..... is this the same for astral traveling? does astral traveling give you 100% control as if awake? all the experiences i've had like that were dreamy.... and not at all real because my surroundings had very dream aspects to them... not even close to being reality
It depends on your definitions I guess but yes, lucid dreaming takes place in the astral. The difference is that you are in an environment that is created by you, your emotions etc. Only you can judge your level of awareness and the quality of the experience but to explore another part of the astral you need to 'release' the energy feeding that environment. Do this by focusing on any old object and you should notice the scene begin to change. Remember everything is thought based so place the intent to do something and off you go.
QUOTE(Bacchus @ Aug 1 2007, 01:31 PM)
It depends on your definitions I guess but yes, lucid dreaming takes place in the astral. The difference is that you are in an environment that is created by you, your emotions etc. Only you can judge your level of awareness and the quality of the experience but to explore another part of the astral you need to 'release' the energy feeding that environment. Do this by focusing on any old object and you should notice the scene begin to change. Remember everything is thought based so place the intent to do something and off you go.
I guess I had the misunderstanding that astral travel was supposed to be soul travel throughout the real world. I guess it's just a form of self-exploration?
hello Vilius! i want you to draw your own conclusions to the dream. i will tell you this (sorry to sound patronizing not intended im tired) if you fully understand the power of dreams you will realize this could be a warning. with astral projection you are not a 3d object so you can travel through time, space and dimensions. everything is connected. i am very tired now i hope to see you soon in another place. if you remember my first post about astral projection i was experiencing buzzing sensations on my feet and i don't get them anymore! i don't think i am good at AP because you guys seem to be more connected than me. i am jealous but in a nice way . i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool.
. i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool.
i just wanted to post my original AP experience again if thats allowed.
i have had outer body experiences. the first time this happed to me i was 6 years old. i was abused by my stepfather. he picked me up from school and tried to kill me. he kicked and punched me up the stairs, chased me to my room and began to strangle me in a fit or rage. it was at this moment i began to astral travel. when i remember this i can see myself from a third person perspective in the corner of the room up high by the ceiling. then next thing i can remember is being in hospital. i always realized this was astral projection but only recently considered the possibility i had died.
the second occasion was less dramatic but quite mad all the same. i was chilling out in my recliner arm chair tilted back. i fell asleep and snoozed for a bit. i heard a noise cant remember what but i wanted to get up. i felt the paralyzed sensation (this is the brain temporarily disconnecting neural paths to limbs to prevent sleepwalking. sleep walkers have less protection from this.) i began to fight the paralyzed state trying harder and harder to get up. then i jolted forward and i looked back to see myself laying back sleeping. then i fell back and woke up.
all my life i have had strange experiences to do with subconscious thought, time, dreams, coincidences, ufo phenomenon (i spotted a ufo a couple of years back) concous trance states. buzzing sounds when i fall asleep. strange buzzing sensations on my feet and I'm freaking out as i type this cause i totally forgot all about them! electricity fields on me. bright lights. very deep dreams of time traveling, flying dreams, floating dreams. i am a light sleeper so i tend to remember my dreams well and im a good riser my brain works better in the morning (most of the time). premonitions but I've never sleepwalked.
time travel dreams:
I've had dreams where i thought i had traveled through time. the other night i had a dream of doing something the same thing over and over again in different time periods like generations spanning 100's of years
I've even had religious experiences!
one night i was walking down the main road at 3am (and no i wasn't high). i was approaching a pedestrian crossing and it went off. I looked around and couldn't see anyone, so i carried on walking and i passed the crossing and i thought i just look back as you would and right next to the traffic lights on green was a neon light crucifix. it was from the funurel parlor across the street but it was incredibly striking how it was next to the green traffic light in a perfect view. i suddenly felt a great sense of well being and went on my way. there is a strange twist to this story as the very next days there were news reports across the world of stature cows in churches of drinking milk.
i have had outer body experiences. the first time this happed to me i was 6 years old. i was abused by my stepfather. he picked me up from school and tried to kill me. he kicked and punched me up the stairs, chased me to my room and began to strangle me in a fit or rage. it was at this moment i began to astral travel. when i remember this i can see myself from a third person perspective in the corner of the room up high by the ceiling. then next thing i can remember is being in hospital. i always realized this was astral projection but only recently considered the possibility i had died.
the second occasion was less dramatic but quite mad all the same. i was chilling out in my recliner arm chair tilted back. i fell asleep and snoozed for a bit. i heard a noise cant remember what but i wanted to get up. i felt the paralyzed sensation (this is the brain temporarily disconnecting neural paths to limbs to prevent sleepwalking. sleep walkers have less protection from this.) i began to fight the paralyzed state trying harder and harder to get up. then i jolted forward and i looked back to see myself laying back sleeping. then i fell back and woke up.
all my life i have had strange experiences to do with subconscious thought, time, dreams, coincidences, ufo phenomenon (i spotted a ufo a couple of years back) concous trance states. buzzing sounds when i fall asleep. strange buzzing sensations on my feet and I'm freaking out as i type this cause i totally forgot all about them! electricity fields on me. bright lights. very deep dreams of time traveling, flying dreams, floating dreams. i am a light sleeper so i tend to remember my dreams well and im a good riser my brain works better in the morning (most of the time). premonitions but I've never sleepwalked.
time travel dreams:
I've had dreams where i thought i had traveled through time. the other night i had a dream of doing something the same thing over and over again in different time periods like generations spanning 100's of years
I've even had religious experiences!
one night i was walking down the main road at 3am (and no i wasn't high). i was approaching a pedestrian crossing and it went off. I looked around and couldn't see anyone, so i carried on walking and i passed the crossing and i thought i just look back as you would and right next to the traffic lights on green was a neon light crucifix. it was from the funurel parlor across the street but it was incredibly striking how it was next to the green traffic light in a perfect view. i suddenly felt a great sense of well being and went on my way. there is a strange twist to this story as the very next days there were news reports across the world of stature cows in churches of drinking milk.
QUOTE(I.R.H. @ Aug 1 2007, 09:30 AM)
http://www.caminosalser.com/contenidos/img...ral/chakras.jpg
That is an address to a chakras pic. The are supposed to help projection, you are supposed to stimulate them by having energy flow to and around them. (not really shure how to master transmitting energy)
-The technique I use is meditation, you meditate using progressive meditation (you relax specific parts of your body one after one) after your whole body is relaxed you try to focus on a geometric shape or a simple object. You can also repeat a mantra inside your head, like, I astral project. Try to keep your mind from wandering and you will soon be in a deep meditation. Then you simply have to wait, you experience noises and such like Socrates described. Do NOT let the noises scare you or you won't project. If you wait long enough you will probably get the vibrations ( this is supposed to be the symptom right before projection although not all get this). Then you will either just float out or roll/fall out and you have projected
BTW This method is easier to do while a little tired.
Sorry if I'm not extremely specific but if you have any more questions about this method I will give more detailed instruction.
hope this helps
That is an address to a chakras pic. The are supposed to help projection, you are supposed to stimulate them by having energy flow to and around them. (not really shure how to master transmitting energy)
-The technique I use is meditation, you meditate using progressive meditation (you relax specific parts of your body one after one) after your whole body is relaxed you try to focus on a geometric shape or a simple object. You can also repeat a mantra inside your head, like, I astral project. Try to keep your mind from wandering and you will soon be in a deep meditation. Then you simply have to wait, you experience noises and such like Socrates described. Do NOT let the noises scare you or you won't project. If you wait long enough you will probably get the vibrations ( this is supposed to be the symptom right before projection although not all get this). Then you will either just float out or roll/fall out and you have projected
BTW This method is easier to do while a little tired.
Sorry if I'm not extremely specific but if you have any more questions about this method I will give more detailed instruction.
hope this helps
So if we achieve this in a meditative state will we just be in another state of mind or will we actually be asleep? What happens when you return to your body? Do you come to as if awaking from sleep or what?
Also, I tried this a couple times last night. I got to what I believe were the vibrations... my body started feeling really good and tingly.... then every time after that my heart would start beating faster because (as I was controlling my breathing) I would get confused as when to breath instead of just letting it happen... I was on the brink of doing this, but I had to open my eyes after this....
QUOTE(bustacrab @ Aug 2 2007, 12:56 PM)
I guess I had the misunderstanding that astral travel was supposed to be soul travel throughout the real world. I guess it's just a form of self-exploration?
I would say the opposite; astral travel is exploring the non-physical. It is very hard to be in a lucid state of awareness whilst being in the non-physical and objectively view the physical world. I think the closest most people get is the etheric plane/RTZ which is when they have the classic 'Out of Body Experience' where they might find themselves floating above their body in their bedroom. I say closest because the environment might look like and be based on the physical world but things will be different, like your bedroom door might be on the other side of the room, for example.
But I take a different approach. Instead of lying down with the intention to project out of my body, I try to go within (phasing).
QUOTE(Socrates @ Jan 26 2006, 12:09 AM)
To some of you, the idea of astral travel, (astral projection, OBE) may seem completely insane. It did to me once too. But I decided to try it anyway, and had amazing results.
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Astral travel has been practised throughout history - and there have been thousands of documented scientific experiements confirming that astral travel is real.
People seek therapy because they 'wake up paralyzed and rigid' (sleep paralysis, a close component of astral travel) 'Wake up and see strange beings around them' (entities found in the astral plane) 'Find themselves floating or vibrating violently, or engulfed in a bright light' (sensations felt as the astral body leaves the physical body) Some people have even gone so far as to say their astral experiences are alien encounters.
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And, there are those who resent astral travel and/or refuse to beleive it is possible at all. Perhaps for one or more of the following reasons:
1. They beleive that astral experiences are actually dreams. (Wrong. Astral travel is a fully conscious experience, as thousands of people have confirmed worldwide.)
2. They beleive that those who claim to astral travel are under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. (Wrong again. Drugs or Alcohol actually hinder astral travel. Furthermore, most people who astral travel began astral travelling at a very young age - 6 to 12.)
3. They beleive what people describe as an astral experience is actually an alien abduction. (Thrice wrong. Although, waking paralyzed, seeing strange entities, and being engulfed in a blinding white light may be likened to an alien abduction, such symptoms are components of the first stages of astral travel.)
4. They beleive people claim to be able to astral travel for publicity, money, or attention in general. (Indeed, some people may use astral travel for such a purpose, or claim that they are able to astral travel when in actuality they cannot. However, astral travel is an enlightening spiritual experience, and he or she who has astral travelled normally understands the importance of keeping such a controvertial hobby quiet. Furthermore, it is commonly known that if one astral travels for selfish or evil purposes, they are likely to find themselves attracting unpleasant entities.)
5. They beleive astral travel is evil, and a sin unto god. (A misconception. As said above, astral travel is a spiritually enlightening and developing experience, not an evil or sinful one. The bible actually talkes about astral travel on several occasions; it describes people as being "in the spirit" while receiving prophecy. Terminology of astral projection is also found in:
Ecclesiastes 12:6-12:7:
"Remember [your Creator] — before the silver cord is severed,
or the golden bowl is broken;
before the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
or the wheel broken at the well,
and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it."
The passage is talking about what happens when we die.
The silver cord this passage talks about exists when one projects. It links the physical body to the astral one. Don't worry - It can only be severed if we die in the physical world. The golden bowl refers to the 'crown chakra' the main energy center of the body, used to project. Biblical Scholars attribute these lines to astral projection or the astral body in general.
Those are some of the more common reasons people resent or refuse to beleive astral travel is possible. Hopefully I have cleared up some of the myths associated with this phenomena.
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Here is a technique for astral travel. I bluntly call it the '4 in the morning technique' I have tried many methods over the past two years, and this one had the best results. I have written it out in steps. It involves getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning - a little extra effort, but it is by far worth it. The reasons for waking up at 4 in the morning are:
- You will be drowsy and it will be easier to clear your head.
- You will drift off to sleep much faster.
- You will have gotten up for a purpose; your body and mind will be tuned to what you are trying to achieve.
A note to those who are skeptical about astral travel but still wish to try it: You must keep an open mind while attempting to project. Any negative thoughts or feelings will certainly hold you back. Stay positive, open, and willing.
The technique is as follows:
Set your alarm for 4 o'clock in the morning.
Allow yourself to drift asleep.
At four in the morning, the alarm will wake you. Get out of bed turn on the light, and splash water on your face. Dry your face with a towell.
After about two minutes, get back in bed. Lie on your back.
You will most likely be feeling groggy and tired. Your mind will be eager to get back to sleep.
Close your eyes, and clear your mind. This should be easy because you are so tired.
Now, imagine you are standing somewhere in your room. Perhaps in the far corner. Vividly see yourself standing there. Know that you are standing there, and that your body is still lying on the bed. Focus your whole mind on this concept.
While working on that, begin a simple affirmation in your head. "I am going to astral travel. I am going to leave my body." Say it in your head, over and over, while imagining you are on the other side of the room.
While you are doing this, you will begin to drift back to sleep. Slowly, your mind will begin to cloud. Make sure that the concept of standing elsewhere in your room is the last thing that goes through your mind before you are asleep.
You may experience one or more of the following sensations:
- Floating
- Sinking
- Vibrations
- A bright white/blue light
- A rushing or popping sound
- Starnge noises; someone calling your name
- A jolt
If you experience one or more of these sensations for the first time, it may be frightening. But know that they are positive signs; signs that let you know you're about to project.
Almost always, apon feeling a strange sensation, the person trying to project gets such a fright that he/she is jolted back into their body. If this happens to you, allow yourself to fall asleep and try again the next night, knowing presently that there is nothing to fear.
If you find yourself outside your body, do not stay out for too long the first time. Float about your room, become used to the physics of the astral plane, and then will yourself back into your body. You can start exploring after a 24 hour break. There may be a guide waiting for you. This guide will watch over you and take you where you please. Talk briefly with the guide, and say you will project again in 24 hours.
When 24 hours pass, you will be ready to explore and venture further than your room. You may not even have to use drifting off to sleep as a medium for astral travel.
If, after several attempts, you still have not projected, do not be detered. It is likely you will have felt some of the sensations above while trying, and this is a positive sign. You must remember that it is a matter of willpower. You can't just casually attempt to project in a one-off scenario. Think about astral travel throughout the day. Buy a book on astral travel. Attempt to astral travel everynight. Eventually, I gurantee, you will get out.
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That's all I have time for at the moment. If you have any questions about the technique I listed, or about astral travel or the astral plane, send me a PM. I will be happy to help.
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Astral travel has been practised throughout history - and there have been thousands of documented scientific experiements confirming that astral travel is real.
People seek therapy because they 'wake up paralyzed and rigid' (sleep paralysis, a close component of astral travel) 'Wake up and see strange beings around them' (entities found in the astral plane) 'Find themselves floating or vibrating violently, or engulfed in a bright light' (sensations felt as the astral body leaves the physical body) Some people have even gone so far as to say their astral experiences are alien encounters.
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And, there are those who resent astral travel and/or refuse to beleive it is possible at all. Perhaps for one or more of the following reasons:
1. They beleive that astral experiences are actually dreams. (Wrong. Astral travel is a fully conscious experience, as thousands of people have confirmed worldwide.)
2. They beleive that those who claim to astral travel are under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. (Wrong again. Drugs or Alcohol actually hinder astral travel. Furthermore, most people who astral travel began astral travelling at a very young age - 6 to 12.)
3. They beleive what people describe as an astral experience is actually an alien abduction. (Thrice wrong. Although, waking paralyzed, seeing strange entities, and being engulfed in a blinding white light may be likened to an alien abduction, such symptoms are components of the first stages of astral travel.)
4. They beleive people claim to be able to astral travel for publicity, money, or attention in general. (Indeed, some people may use astral travel for such a purpose, or claim that they are able to astral travel when in actuality they cannot. However, astral travel is an enlightening spiritual experience, and he or she who has astral travelled normally understands the importance of keeping such a controvertial hobby quiet. Furthermore, it is commonly known that if one astral travels for selfish or evil purposes, they are likely to find themselves attracting unpleasant entities.)
5. They beleive astral travel is evil, and a sin unto god. (A misconception. As said above, astral travel is a spiritually enlightening and developing experience, not an evil or sinful one. The bible actually talkes about astral travel on several occasions; it describes people as being "in the spirit" while receiving prophecy. Terminology of astral projection is also found in:
Ecclesiastes 12:6-12:7:
"Remember [your Creator] — before the silver cord is severed,
or the golden bowl is broken;
before the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
or the wheel broken at the well,
and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it."
The passage is talking about what happens when we die.
The silver cord this passage talks about exists when one projects. It links the physical body to the astral one. Don't worry - It can only be severed if we die in the physical world. The golden bowl refers to the 'crown chakra' the main energy center of the body, used to project. Biblical Scholars attribute these lines to astral projection or the astral body in general.
Those are some of the more common reasons people resent or refuse to beleive astral travel is possible. Hopefully I have cleared up some of the myths associated with this phenomena.
-
Here is a technique for astral travel. I bluntly call it the '4 in the morning technique' I have tried many methods over the past two years, and this one had the best results. I have written it out in steps. It involves getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning - a little extra effort, but it is by far worth it. The reasons for waking up at 4 in the morning are:
- You will be drowsy and it will be easier to clear your head.
- You will drift off to sleep much faster.
- You will have gotten up for a purpose; your body and mind will be tuned to what you are trying to achieve.
A note to those who are skeptical about astral travel but still wish to try it: You must keep an open mind while attempting to project. Any negative thoughts or feelings will certainly hold you back. Stay positive, open, and willing.
The technique is as follows:
Set your alarm for 4 o'clock in the morning.
Allow yourself to drift asleep.
At four in the morning, the alarm will wake you. Get out of bed turn on the light, and splash water on your face. Dry your face with a towell.
After about two minutes, get back in bed. Lie on your back.
You will most likely be feeling groggy and tired. Your mind will be eager to get back to sleep.
Close your eyes, and clear your mind. This should be easy because you are so tired.
Now, imagine you are standing somewhere in your room. Perhaps in the far corner. Vividly see yourself standing there. Know that you are standing there, and that your body is still lying on the bed. Focus your whole mind on this concept.
While working on that, begin a simple affirmation in your head. "I am going to astral travel. I am going to leave my body." Say it in your head, over and over, while imagining you are on the other side of the room.
While you are doing this, you will begin to drift back to sleep. Slowly, your mind will begin to cloud. Make sure that the concept of standing elsewhere in your room is the last thing that goes through your mind before you are asleep.
You may experience one or more of the following sensations:
- Floating
- Sinking
- Vibrations
- A bright white/blue light
- A rushing or popping sound
- Starnge noises; someone calling your name
- A jolt
If you experience one or more of these sensations for the first time, it may be frightening. But know that they are positive signs; signs that let you know you're about to project.
Almost always, apon feeling a strange sensation, the person trying to project gets such a fright that he/she is jolted back into their body. If this happens to you, allow yourself to fall asleep and try again the next night, knowing presently that there is nothing to fear.
If you find yourself outside your body, do not stay out for too long the first time. Float about your room, become used to the physics of the astral plane, and then will yourself back into your body. You can start exploring after a 24 hour break. There may be a guide waiting for you. This guide will watch over you and take you where you please. Talk briefly with the guide, and say you will project again in 24 hours.
When 24 hours pass, you will be ready to explore and venture further than your room. You may not even have to use drifting off to sleep as a medium for astral travel.
If, after several attempts, you still have not projected, do not be detered. It is likely you will have felt some of the sensations above while trying, and this is a positive sign. You must remember that it is a matter of willpower. You can't just casually attempt to project in a one-off scenario. Think about astral travel throughout the day. Buy a book on astral travel. Attempt to astral travel everynight. Eventually, I gurantee, you will get out.
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That's all I have time for at the moment. If you have any questions about the technique I listed, or about astral travel or the astral plane, send me a PM. I will be happy to help.
hey this is my first post but ive been reading a few of the articles on this site and have become hooked. when i saw this one i thought it sounded pretty interesting then from reading your post i realised that some of the things were familiar as i have experienced moments where i have woken up with a jolt as though i were falling onto my bed, also the floating/sinking feelings too but i cannot recall experiencing them at the same time so to speak. unfortunatley i dont remember the majority of my dreams i appear to forget them the moment i wake up so i cannot tell what has happened exactly. but this is quite interesting and i will try attempting this (intentionally) at some point.
this is a reoccurring dream i had between the ages of 5-8. (1981-1984) i had this dream a few times.
it starts off as a real British Gas television advert. in the advert is a mad professor standing in a white room. in the room is a radiator, the professor walks to the radiator, touches it and yelps "hot". he walks over to a sink turns the tap and puts his hand under the water and yelps "hot". then he says "come and have a look at my new invention". i look to my left and i see a heap a wires and cables with a TV embedded within the cables. the TV is off and suddenly everything turns black and i'm somersaulting or floating in darkness. i land on something soft which turns out to be my bed. i can see 2 white cartoon like eyes looking at me. I'm scared so i get off the bed and instinctively head to the door (remember its pitch black). i open the door and light shines into the room to reveal the bedroom i lived in just 16 years ago (when i was 15). I'm on the landing and i begin to walk down the stairs. i noticed the banisters were brown just like in the house i lived in prior to the bedroom. i look up the stairs and the white eyes inside a black mist is floating on the landing. it turns into a green spiky monster and begins to chase me. i run into the kitchen which is the same kitchen that i was living at at the time of the dream. i jump into the bin and i notice an anchor butter wrapper and then i wake up.
Ok this is a crazy dream. i don't understand the significance of the product placements in this dream only that its probably from subliminal advertising. the heap of cables around the TV symbolizes a time machine made by the mad professor. to be completely honest (as always) i don't think i actually traveled through time (this time) as i have lived in council homes all my poor life which tend to look the same! but the real significant point is that i believed in my childhood that i did travel through time in my sleep! so as a child i was in tune to what we are talking about here. I think children are more in tune to this than adults.
it starts off as a real British Gas television advert. in the advert is a mad professor standing in a white room. in the room is a radiator, the professor walks to the radiator, touches it and yelps "hot". he walks over to a sink turns the tap and puts his hand under the water and yelps "hot". then he says "come and have a look at my new invention". i look to my left and i see a heap a wires and cables with a TV embedded within the cables. the TV is off and suddenly everything turns black and i'm somersaulting or floating in darkness. i land on something soft which turns out to be my bed. i can see 2 white cartoon like eyes looking at me. I'm scared so i get off the bed and instinctively head to the door (remember its pitch black). i open the door and light shines into the room to reveal the bedroom i lived in just 16 years ago (when i was 15). I'm on the landing and i begin to walk down the stairs. i noticed the banisters were brown just like in the house i lived in prior to the bedroom. i look up the stairs and the white eyes inside a black mist is floating on the landing. it turns into a green spiky monster and begins to chase me. i run into the kitchen which is the same kitchen that i was living at at the time of the dream. i jump into the bin and i notice an anchor butter wrapper and then i wake up.
Ok this is a crazy dream. i don't understand the significance of the product placements in this dream only that its probably from subliminal advertising. the heap of cables around the TV symbolizes a time machine made by the mad professor. to be completely honest (as always) i don't think i actually traveled through time (this time) as i have lived in council homes all my poor life which tend to look the same! but the real significant point is that i believed in my childhood that i did travel through time in my sleep! so as a child i was in tune to what we are talking about here. I think children are more in tune to this than adults.
[quote name='Vilius' date='Aug 1 2007, 07:29 PM' post='1805982']
Nice dream defuzed so does this means that the concrete was nuked by america ?
hello Vilius! i want you to draw your own conclusions to the dream. i will tell you this (sorry to sound patronizing not intended im tired) if you fully understand the power of dreams you will realize this could be a warning. with astral projection you are not a 3d object so you can travel through time, space and dimensions. everything is connected. i am very tired now i hope to see you soon in another place. if you remember my first post about astral projection i was experiencing buzzing sensations on my feet and i don't get them anymore! i don't think i am good at AP because you guys seem to be more connected than me. i am jealous but in a nice way original.gif. i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool. original.gif
Nice dream defuzed
so does this means that the concrete was nuked by america ?hello Vilius! i want you to draw your own conclusions to the dream. i will tell you this (sorry to sound patronizing not intended im tired) if you fully understand the power of dreams you will realize this could be a warning. with astral projection you are not a 3d object so you can travel through time, space and dimensions. everything is connected. i am very tired now i hope to see you soon in another place. if you remember my first post about astral projection i was experiencing buzzing sensations on my feet and i don't get them anymore! i don't think i am good at AP because you guys seem to be more connected than me. i am jealous but in a nice way original.gif. i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool. original.gif
QUOTE(Bacchus @ Aug 2 2007, 12:57 PM)
I would say the opposite; astral travel is exploring the non-physical. It is very hard to be in a lucid state of awareness whilst being in the non-physical and objectively view the physical world. I think the closest most people get is the etheric plane/RTZ which is when they have the classic 'Out of Body Experience' where they might find themselves floating above their body in their bedroom. I say closest because the environment might look like and be based on the physical world but things will be different, like your bedroom door might be on the other side of the room, for example.
But I take a different approach. Instead of lying down with the intention to project out of my body, I try to go within (phasing).
But I take a different approach. Instead of lying down with the intention to project out of my body, I try to go within (phasing).
Well, what do you think of my experience?
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Also, I tried this a couple times last night. I got to what I believe were the vibrations... my body started feeling really good and tingly.... then every time after that my heart would start beating faster because (as I was controlling my breathing) I would get confused as when to breath instead of just letting it happen... I was on the brink of doing this, but I had to open my eyes after this....
QUOTE(bustacrab @ Aug 3 2007, 01:59 AM)
Well, what do you think of my experience?
i dunno bustacrab, im no expert like i said i think u guys r better at this stuff than me
QUOTE(Vilius @ Jul 24 2007, 02:25 PM)
I just wanted to say that reality is what you make it if you really believe that there is nothing after death then you will end up in a void everything that humanity has thinked of is real in AP and your beliefs will judge where you will be after death !
!Hi Vilius,
I am very interested to read your thoughts or tips on my post on this thread, at the following link:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=1805964
Thank you in advance. I'm just trying to find out more information about what I've been experiencing.
Ok have had much progress thanx to this topic so thanks socratis for starting it.
ok a realy wierd thing happned to me two days ago trying to get out. It was the furthest i have come yet but then : i heard a noise and when i slowely opened my eyes to stare at the bulb again (this is what i do no and then) something caught my eye. On the chair at my pc there was a white "entity" swaying about. I don't know what it was i did'nt look i closed my eyes again and went to sleep.
If this IS in fact a "demon" or any of those stuff. Will it try to make cotact with me or must i just ignore it???
Also wanted to know 2 things : 1) sometimes when i'm doing ramdom things i suddenly hear this very high pitched noise , not coming from outside but inside i hope this doesn't sound wierd..... what is this if somebody knows. and 2) is there any of you that are not "christians" like pagans or wiccans. Just a wierd question cause i've heard that if a wiccan you have these abillities as you learn them ie astro' spells' etc. but when you deside to change faith you lose them...any thoughts on this subject would be great.
Ps. mind my english (it's not my language)
ok a realy wierd thing happned to me two days ago trying to get out. It was the furthest i have come yet but then : i heard a noise and when i slowely opened my eyes to stare at the bulb again (this is what i do no and then) something caught my eye. On the chair at my pc there was a white "entity" swaying about. I don't know what it was i did'nt look i closed my eyes again and went to sleep.
If this IS in fact a "demon" or any of those stuff. Will it try to make cotact with me or must i just ignore it???
Also wanted to know 2 things : 1) sometimes when i'm doing ramdom things i suddenly hear this very high pitched noise , not coming from outside but inside
i hope this doesn't sound wierd..... what is this if somebody knows. and 2) is there any of you that are not "christians" like pagans or wiccans. Just a wierd question cause i've heard that if a wiccan you have these abillities as you learn them ie astro' spells' etc. but when you deside to change faith you lose them...any thoughts on this subject would be great.Ps. mind my english (it's not my language)
Isis im sure your in begining of being able to consioucly project if you need help just ask ill get back to you later
GhOsT the enteti's color matters on what you think the color resembles if you think white is a color pureness and light then its not a demon the sound well i used to hear it too just ignore it and it will disappear forever after some time now im sure that people who look for truth in religions have weakier psionic powers AP is reality and i dont understand how a person who knows all of this stuff could start to wander again and if he does then his chakras are deactivated until he sees the truth again thus taking psionic powers away
if you need help just ask ill get back to you later GhOsT the enteti's color matters on what you think the color resembles if you think white is a color pureness and light then its not a demon the sound well i used to hear it too just ignore it and it will disappear forever after some time now im sure that people who look for truth in religions have weakier psionic powers AP is reality and i dont understand how a person who knows all of this stuff could start to wander again and if he does then his chakras are deactivated until he sees the truth again thus taking psionic powers away
Umm yeah in truth i am only 14 years old i espeacially wrote that i am 16 years old so that people wont treat me like a kid but now i see that there was no need to do that ..
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ok last night i had some progress. seconds after point of falling asleep i reminded myself to AP and it was very weird. i got a burning sensation on my feet. um ok now im having dejavu on what i am typing! i dreamt this moment a long time ago! um ok.... where was i? oh yes last night i managed to stay semi concouse for some time and i think i was floating just above my bed. i woke up and i yelped, my heart was thumping and i thought i was going to have a heart attack. is this safe? is it dangerous? but the good news is im getting the sensations back. so we can control this! we have been robbed of our true evolutionary goal.
Hey, I found this thread just today and I read up to the 14-15 page, and I KNOW I'm gonna try it tonight!
But, Socrates, if you can, answer these;
1. What exactly do i think of when I start to drift off into sleep? Like,should I picture something, think of a phrase, or should I just think about this technique?
2. Does everyone get a "guide"? What is yours?
3. What does this world look like? Is it black and white? Blue and black? Just as the world we see in our physical bodies?
4. Who will I meet? Dead peeps, angels, monsters, demons?
5. Can I time travel in this new realm?
6. Can I imagine up new creatures and objects while there?
7. Are there any known meeting places for people here who like to visit that realm?
8. Where could I find YOU there?
9. Where will my guide be?
10. How many guides can one person have?
You do not have to answer all of these. Just the ones you feel like answering or want to. also;
11. Are there any compases there?
EDIT: woah! Vilius! I'm 14 too! nice to see another "one" around here!
But, Socrates, if you can, answer these;
1. What exactly do i think of when I start to drift off into sleep? Like,should I picture something, think of a phrase, or should I just think about this technique?
2. Does everyone get a "guide"? What is yours?
3. What does this world look like? Is it black and white? Blue and black? Just as the world we see in our physical bodies?
4. Who will I meet? Dead peeps, angels, monsters, demons?
5. Can I time travel in this new realm?
6. Can I imagine up new creatures and objects while there?
7. Are there any known meeting places for people here who like to visit that realm?
8. Where could I find YOU there?
9. Where will my guide be?
10. How many guides can one person have?
You do not have to answer all of these. Just the ones you feel like answering or want to. also;
11. Are there any compases there?
EDIT: woah! Vilius! I'm 14 too! nice to see another "one" around here!
Sounds like an interesting thing to do. I'll try it tonight. I have had a few dreams that seemed a little eriee, like myself being around people who were apparently awake while I was projecting. But more common are my visions into future events. For example: I'd dream that I'd be watching my favorite tv show and then someone would start up a conversation or something would happen that sends a specific emotion through me, then I'd live it for real as if I'd had some kind of premonition. Is this linked to astral projection in any way?
i dont think u guys should specificly think of stuff caus its the random thought that sends u to sleep so just relax and do what u normally do then once ur asleep remember AP AP AP! its fast flow of information that sends u to sleep.
im 31 so i guess im old lol if age has anything to do with stuff. we reincarnate anyway so i could be like 600 years old or something like that lol
im 31 so i guess im old lol if age has anything to do with stuff. we reincarnate anyway so i could be like 600 years old or something like that lol
has that worked for you?
Ok, I decided to do it without the 4 in the morning thing Socrates suggested. Instead, I laid down on my nice comfy couch an laid my arms across my chest. I then closed my eyes, thought of relaxation, and then started thinking "I am going to leave my body, I will Astral Project." I then repeated the words "Astral project" in my mind. I pictured myself standing a few feet from my body, looking down at my body. I felt myself almost being pulled out of my body and into the spot where I pictured myself. The best way to describe it is that I was sand going through the holes in a strainer. I was caught in mid transition when all of a sudden I was jerked so hard from my body that I was catapulted out of my living room and into the street. I preceded to speed down the road and before I reached the bend in the street I awoke with a start. Well, actually my body was hurled onto the ground. I felt kinda weird afterwards. Like a vacuum was sucking me back through the strainer. It was weird but definately an interesting experience.
Now I didn't see any guide or anything, but I felt another presence near me. It was definately cool.
Now I didn't see any guide or anything, but I felt another presence near me. It was definately cool.
Was that your first time? What did it look like? Just like you see when you are concious? Oh, who cares!
HEy, I'm gonna try to do it twice in one day. I'll set my alarm to 4 am, the do all that stuff and when I go to sleep, I guess I'll know if I projected or not. BUT, before going to sleep at 4 am, I'll set my alarm to 5 or 6 am, thus waking me up an hour or so later in case I fail or have no results the first time.
HEy, I'm gonna try to do it twice in one day. I'll set my alarm to 4 am, the do all that stuff and when I go to sleep, I guess I'll know if I projected or not. BUT, before going to sleep at 4 am, I'll set my alarm to 5 or 6 am, thus waking me up an hour or so later in case I fail or have no results the first time.
QUOTE(defuzed28 @ Aug 1 2007, 10:46 PM)
hello Vilius! i want you to draw your own conclusions to the dream. i will tell you this (sorry to sound patronizing not intended im tired) if you fully understand the power of dreams you will realize this could be a warning. with astral projection you are not a 3d object so you can travel through time, space and dimensions. everything is connected. i am very tired now i hope to see you soon in another place. if you remember my first post about astral projection i was experiencing buzzing sensations on my feet and i don't get them anymore! i don't think i am good at AP because you guys seem to be more connected than me. i am jealous but in a nice way . i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool.
. i do not believe i can make this happen more despite what you guys say. oh i just remembered i might be wrong!...lol...i did try the other morning and something strange did happen. i was very tired i went to sleep and i tried to think of AP. i was awaken buy my door bell and i went outside and i saw my neighbor. i asked him if he buzzed me and he said someone buzzed him also. i looked around and couldn't see anyone. the kids are on school holidays so i doubt it was kids as it was quite early. i went back indoors and i heard someone across the street talking with their neighbors and i could hear them saying someone knocked on their door. it could be a hoax who knows but this did happen in quick succession. i am not defonately saying this happened for real i am a realistic guy with this stuff and i never tell porkies, (lies). like i said in my original post i have had lots of strange things happen to me. actualy thinking about this now i should ask my neighbours if they had a knock on the door. this could of been a dream! oh god im confused now lol...i better get some zzzzzz's. oh one more thing the dream i wrote about i dont want to make any wild connections here but im watching the news and theres a fallen bridge in america on the mississipi river "lots of broken concreat by a shore" i posted the dream the day this happened! perhaps a coincidence. who knows. let us know your views. by the way i think you guys are really kool. First of all I hope you dont think the bridge falling was "No big deal" like a lot of other people think. I am not saying you think this but we were watching cnn and the reporter said it when she thought her mic was off. I live about 20 minutes from the bridge and this is going to hinder traffic for at least two years. This bridge is about the only bridge that goes accross the mississippi. It has 8 lanes and during rush hour it is stop and go (this is a freeway bridge) so there was about 50 vehicles on it when it fell. even a couple days after there is about 30 people still missing. Your dream was not a warning this was happening, I doubt there was a guy sitting at the shore of the river saying the US nuked it... Why would we nuke our own bridge??? I know you are tired and probably aren't making fun of this disaster but I feel rather strong about it. The sad thing is even if the dream was a precurser to this the governer wouldn't help. He was told several times by the hwy. administration the bridge had to be replaced and did nothing about it. There was even a worker that worked on the bridge that called in to 93X (A Radio station that my sister is an intern for) and he said they were drilling holes on the bridge and it was getting weaker by the drilling. It was so top secret that he wouldn't give his name or anything cause he was afraid. I know this isn't related to AP but I thought you might want to hear about it.
QUOTE(PsiJames @ Aug 3 2007, 09:14 PM)
Was that your first time? What did it look like? Just like you see when you are concious? Oh, who cares!
HEy, I'm gonna try to do it twice in one day. I'll set my alarm to 4 am, the do all that stuff and when I go to sleep, I guess I'll know if I projected or not. BUT, before going to sleep at 4 am, I'll set my alarm to 5 or 6 am, thus waking me up an hour or so later in case I fail or have no results the first time.
HEy, I'm gonna try to do it twice in one day. I'll set my alarm to 4 am, the do all that stuff and when I go to sleep, I guess I'll know if I projected or not. BUT, before going to sleep at 4 am, I'll set my alarm to 5 or 6 am, thus waking me up an hour or so later in case I fail or have no results the first time.
It wasn't my first time if you count the times I've done it during sleep. But doing it on purpose, well, it was my first time for that. It did look the same as when I was awake, but since I didn't have a proper projection it was too quick and hazy for me to be sure.
I don't expect this will happen the same for everyone, but it was so different.
QUOTE(defuzed28 @ Aug 3 2007, 02:11 PM)
ok last night i had some progress. seconds after point of falling asleep i reminded myself to AP and it was very weird. i got a burning sensation on my feet. um ok now im having dejavu on what i am typing! i dreamt this moment a long time ago! um ok.... where was i? oh yes last night i managed to stay semi concouse for some time and i think i was floating just above my bed. i woke up and i yelped, my heart was thumping and i thought i was going to have a heart attack. is this safe? is it dangerous? but the good news is im getting the sensations back. so we can control this! we have been robbed of our true evolutionary goal.
I had a similar experience where my feet started tingling (and up and in between my legs). My heart started thumping faster and faster... so I got freaked out and stopped. Only difference in our experiences was that I never got past the threshold and actually projected...
Hey guys.
Thanxs vilius for putting my mind to ease on that. Ok i would like to post another method here you can find it at this site : cool methods : i tried it last night nd it realy worked in some wierd way.
1) i can remember things that my logical sense tells me didn't happen. ie my hands were crossing each other while i know they were under my head.
2) The popping sounds and so forth did'nt draw my attention because in this method you actualy trick your body to sleep while you can thin of anything.....
anyway i think this way is best for beginners so go ahead and try it.
Ps. first post on 150
Thanxs vilius for putting my mind to ease on that. Ok i would like to post another method here you can find it at this site : cool methods : i tried it last night nd it realy worked in some wierd way.
1) i can remember things that my logical sense tells me didn't happen. ie my hands were crossing each other while i know they were under my head.
2) The popping sounds and so forth did'nt draw my attention because in this method you actualy trick your body to sleep while you can thin of anything.....
anyway i think this way is best for beginners so go ahead and try it.
Ps. first post on 150
QUOTE(defuzed28 @ Aug 3 2007, 09:11 PM)
ok last night i had some progress. seconds after point of falling asleep i reminded myself to AP and it was very weird. i got a burning sensation on my feet. um ok now im having dejavu on what i am typing! i dreamt this moment a long time ago! um ok.... where was i? oh yes last night i managed to stay semi concouse for some time and i think i was floating just above my bed. i woke up and i yelped, my heart was thumping and i thought i was going to have a heart attack. is this safe? is it dangerous? but the good news is im getting the sensations back. so we can control this! we have been robbed of our true evolutionary goal.
dude it's energy don't mind that....i'm no expert but from what i've read and that's alot it's safe.
the wierd thing of beginning to try is not knowing heh? you'll see yesterday i imagined my hands on my chest i could swear they were there....but infact they were behind my head
QUOTE(bustacrab @ Aug 3 2007, 10:29 AM)
Well, what do you think of my experience?
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Also, I tried this a couple times last night. I got to what I believe were the vibrations... my body started feeling really good and tingly.... then every time after that my heart would start beating faster because (as I was controlling my breathing) I would get confused as when to breath instead of just letting it happen... I was on the brink of doing this, but I had to open my eyes after this....
I've seen a few people mention this, is it possible it's not your heart but your heart chakra? (I've heard this happens). As your body falls asleep you might start to feel sensations like tingling or your leg might jerk etc. You may notice this but try not to focus on your physical body as this will limit you. The vibrations are a bit different and this is where you might want to try an exit technique.
Thats correct the vibrations are actually chakras growing in size (happens when relaxed) and rubbing into each other
ok i did feel a bit bad for quoting stuff on a disaster that just happened but i had to write about it because this is important. we will have to write and record everything for the sake of this phenomenon to gain more research data. im not suggesting the dream was accurate but it is a strange coincidence. i live in the uk and i was watching bbc news 24 and the key eye witness who lives right by the bridge and who walks under it every day was telling the news that he could see big holes in the bridge that was punched into the bridge and he could see the sky through the holes but as soon as he said that the line went fuzzy. since then the news has never mentioned the holes since and it stinks of a cover up.
the dream i had is a warning and its symbolic. dreams don't have to be literally accurate. they are symbolic. i suggest you unplug yourself from this so called reality and think to yourself about whats REALLY going on the world. 84% of Americans believe 9-11 was an inside job and once you u look for the truth it will find you. i have seen the evidence and its impossible to believe otherwise im afraid. the buildings fell free fall buildings dont just collapse from fires. things have been hidden in plain view right in front of your face and you cannot see it. i never thought 9-11 was an inside job at the time i had the dream but now i do from lots of research i suggest you do the same. nobody believes polititions anymore because we know they lie to us. so why did everyone believe them when they said bin laden did it?
we are living in the matrix. just like the film and when i saw the matrix i understood what it was going to be about before i saw it. because im aware that the PROGRAMMES ON TV PROGAMME US THATS WHY THEY ARE CALLED PROGAMMES! if u know what experiments happened during the cold war you would question everything because humans are so easily led easily manipulated and easily controlled without them even knowing it. look what happened in WWII. after it the poor german people were so dazed and confused about what happened because they were manipulated by an evil man. once you fully understand the psychology behind all this stuff then you are free. be free to think what u want because then they will not have your mind. our physical freedoms are beeing arouded day by day in this phony war on terror but they can never slave our minds once you you unplug yourself from the matrix. but the reality behind the matrix is so bad (just like in the film) it will make you sick but thats half the battle, knowing the truth.
the dream i had is a warning and its symbolic. dreams don't have to be literally accurate. they are symbolic. i suggest you unplug yourself from this so called reality and think to yourself about whats REALLY going on the world. 84% of Americans believe 9-11 was an inside job and once you u look for the truth it will find you. i have seen the evidence and its impossible to believe otherwise im afraid. the buildings fell free fall buildings dont just collapse from fires. things have been hidden in plain view right in front of your face and you cannot see it. i never thought 9-11 was an inside job at the time i had the dream but now i do from lots of research i suggest you do the same. nobody believes polititions anymore because we know they lie to us. so why did everyone believe them when they said bin laden did it?
we are living in the matrix. just like the film and when i saw the matrix i understood what it was going to be about before i saw it. because im aware that the PROGRAMMES ON TV PROGAMME US THATS WHY THEY ARE CALLED PROGAMMES! if u know what experiments happened during the cold war you would question everything because humans are so easily led easily manipulated and easily controlled without them even knowing it. look what happened in WWII. after it the poor german people were so dazed and confused about what happened because they were manipulated by an evil man. once you fully understand the psychology behind all this stuff then you are free. be free to think what u want because then they will not have your mind. our physical freedoms are beeing arouded day by day in this phony war on terror but they can never slave our minds once you you unplug yourself from the matrix. but the reality behind the matrix is so bad (just like in the film) it will make you sick but thats half the battle, knowing the truth.
Hello folks its me Defuzed! i am here today to tell you about a dream i had in 2004.
2 security guards man handle me and take to a round windowless, high rise building. there are 2 sliding doors in front of me and they slide open. the security guards push me into the building and i fall to the floor. i look around, it is round and very strange. i begin to float upwards slowly, up and further up i go. when i finally get to the top of this weird vertical tunnel, i can see what looks like a big train station departure lounge. there are lots of people all dressed in gray suits carrying brief cases all walking back and forth like as if they are commuting to work. then i notice that they are actually walking on what appears to be a glass floor. all the people are on their own and nobody talks to or looks at each other and they look like soulless humans. then i suddenly begin to fall back from where i came from. when i land on the floor, the sliding doors open and the security guards came and pick me up and carry me outside. they let go of me and it seems i am free to leave. i am in what looks like a prison courtyard. there are lots of people here. they all seem to be wearing casual clothing and look a lot more colorful compared to what i saw previously but they are just hanging around, talking amongst themselves. i notice a couple of weird what can only be described as "weird things" a few people wearing strange suits. elongated clown suits with stretched out arms and legs and they seem to float around the courtyard. i can't make any sense of this and it and the people seem too animated, mad even and it freaks me out. so i walk away from all the people. i see what looks like a motorway flyover a river. i am at the edge of the river watching the shore lapping at the concrete. i notice some of the concrete around me is smashed up as if there had been a war. i look to my left and i notice a guy sitting on a broken concrete block. he is just sitting there staring at the floor and he looks depressed. he looks like a biker dude with lots of tattoos and he is sporting a hulk hogan mustache. i ask him "whats happening here?" and he replies "they nuked us" i said "who?" then he showed me his right hand and on it was a tattoo of the American flag. then i wake up.
2 security guards man handle me and take to a round windowless, high rise building. there are 2 sliding doors in front of me and they slide open. the security guards push me into the building and i fall to the floor. i look around, it is round and very strange. i begin to float upwards slowly, up and further up i go. when i finally get to the top of this weird vertical tunnel, i can see what looks like a big train station departure lounge. there are lots of people all dressed in gray suits carrying brief cases all walking back and forth like as if they are commuting to work. then i notice that they are actually walking on what appears to be a glass floor. all the people are on their own and nobody talks to or looks at each other and they look like soulless humans. then i suddenly begin to fall back from where i came from. when i land on the floor, the sliding doors open and the security guards came and pick me up and carry me outside. they let go of me and it seems i am free to leave. i am in what looks like a prison courtyard. there are lots of people here. they all seem to be wearing casual clothing and look a lot more colorful compared to what i saw previously but they are just hanging around, talking amongst themselves. i notice a couple of weird what can only be described as "weird things" a few people wearing strange suits. elongated clown suits with stretched out arms and legs and they seem to float around the courtyard. i can't make any sense of this and it and the people seem too animated, mad even and it freaks me out. so i walk away from all the people. i see what looks like a motorway flyover a river. i am at the edge of the river watching the shore lapping at the concrete. i notice some of the concrete around me is smashed up as if there had been a war. i look to my left and i notice a guy sitting on a broken concrete block. he is just sitting there staring at the floor and he looks depressed. he looks like a biker dude with lots of tattoos and he is sporting a hulk hogan mustache. i ask him "whats happening here?" and he replies "they nuked us" i said "who?" then he showed me his right hand and on it was a tattoo of the American flag. then i wake up.
I don't know why you think my own government would nuke a hwy bridge.. 
and I already told you that they were drilling the holes. They did this to put supports in or something they were working on repaving it. I am not saying that there isn't a cover-up because I think there is one. Read my last post, I already talked about my crappy governer. If I were you I would look up a nuke because if thats what made it fall it wouldn't have just buckled up.
and I already told you that they were drilling the holes. They did this to put supports in or something they were working on repaving it. I am not saying that there isn't a cover-up because I think there is one. Read my last post, I already talked about my crappy governer. If I were you I would look up a nuke because if thats what made it fall it wouldn't have just buckled up.
QUOTE(I.R.H. @ Aug 4 2007, 08:57 PM)
I don't know why you think my own government would nuke a hwy bridge.. and I already told you that they were drilling the holes. They did this to put supports in or something they were working on repaving it. I am not saying that there isn't a cover-up because I think there is one. Read my last post, I already talked about my crappy governer. If I were you I would look up a nuke because if thats what made it fall it wouldn't have just buckled up.
and I already told you that they were drilling the holes. They did this to put supports in or something they were working on repaving it. I am not saying that there isn't a cover-up because I think there is one. Read my last post, I already talked about my crappy governer. If I were you I would look up a nuke because if thats what made it fall it wouldn't have just buckled up.again you miss my point! i never said they nuked the bridge! i just said its a coincidence i posted the dream at the time of the collapse!! its just a mild similarity! i say this again and please dont make me repeat it. dreams are symbolic. not to be taken literally so please do not take the dream too literally. i dont want to go into conspiracies too much now the whole thing freaks me out. i suggest you go and look on the net at some conspiracy theories. so they left the bridge knowing it was unsafe then they drilled holes in it. they might as well of blown the thing up the same result would of occurred. HELLO you are now disconnecting from the matrix the truth is stranger than fiction. the elite don't care about us anymore and that includes governors and so on. take time to think about what i am saying because its taken me a year or so for it to fully sink in. when you reply to this i really hope you have given it major thought. and as for the media...they are scum who mess with people's minds. again i suggest you research who controls your media because i think you will find its like about 6 people who control the media so now do you believe what your tv, newspaper, magazine, politition tells you? i assume not now as they thought the death of possibly 30 or so people on a bridge collapse is not important? scum bags
anyways we cant talk about this anymore ive just read the rules and we are on a different subject here so lets call it a day.
Anyone have any interesting experiences lately???
I really haven't been trying lately i guess im not really motivated. But i really want this to happen... I guess I am kind of developing the lucidity of my dreams right now. It is awesome, the past few years I haven't remembered hardly any dreams. Since I bought my projection book it says about the dream journal so i started that. I Have at LEAST 1 dream that feels real each night... I feel like i have two lives or something. Recently I have been dreaming about the start of the school year (in about a month) and it feels like school but even more weird. I have my friends in the dreams also and they appear just like They really are. If anyone wants to do more than just black out and wake up in the morning you should keep a record of your dreams.
-Hey defuzed, no hard feelings, I get where you are coming from and If I seemed offensive I am sorry. I agree with almost everything you said. I guess I just had a tough week...
I really haven't been trying lately i guess im not really motivated. But i really want this to happen... I guess I am kind of developing the lucidity of my dreams right now. It is awesome, the past few years I haven't remembered hardly any dreams. Since I bought my projection book it says about the dream journal so i started that. I Have at LEAST 1 dream that feels real each night... I feel like i have two lives or something. Recently I have been dreaming about the start of the school year (in about a month) and it feels like school but even more weird. I have my friends in the dreams also and they appear just like They really are. If anyone wants to do more than just black out and wake up in the morning you should keep a record of your dreams.
-Hey defuzed, no hard feelings, I get where you are coming from and If I seemed offensive I am sorry. I agree with almost everything you said. I guess I just had a tough week...
Hello, I'm new here. Well kind of, I been lurking the past few days. I decided to try this and other methods that have been posted. So far nothing has being happening. The wall sometimes makes noises, so it distracts me. Even my stomach makes noises when its really quiet. I put the fan on, because it relaxes even though its noisy. But for some reason, I can't clear my mind from thoughts. Sometimes I feel a sensation, but then it quickly stops.
I really don't know if these has helped me with dreaming. Because I dream a lot and can lucid.
I really don't know if these has helped me with dreaming. Because I dream a lot and can lucid.
I can remember my dreams they aren't lucid yet though its hard to explain how to think about nothing just do it believe you can do it when you 100% believe something and i mean one-hundred percent it becomes true
yeah sorry fellor i was on one 
:S no hard feelings like wise lets do some astral projection! see u in time and space lets surf the dimensions and visit our ancestores from the future we are going planet hoping!
-Hey defuzed, no hard feelings, I get where you are coming from and If I seemed offensive I am sorry. I agree with almost everything you said. I guess I just had a tough week...
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:S no hard feelings like wise lets do some astral projection! see u in time and space lets surf the dimensions and visit our ancestores from the future we are going planet hoping! -Hey defuzed, no hard feelings, I get where you are coming from and If I seemed offensive I am sorry. I agree with almost everything you said. I guess I just had a tough week...
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-I had a few more questions and was wondering if anyone could answer them...
1) When you project do you have perfect vision and you could see everything just like when you are awake?
2) Is the vision 3d or is it more like a painting?\
3) When you project are your eyes closed and you have to open them?? or do you even have "eyes"?
4) How easy is it to attract negs.? even if you hope they aren't there, does the simple mention of negatives attract them to you?
Thanks for the help
1) When you project do you have perfect vision and you could see everything just like when you are awake?
2) Is the vision 3d or is it more like a painting?\
3) When you project are your eyes closed and you have to open them?? or do you even have "eyes"?
4) How easy is it to attract negs.? even if you hope they aren't there, does the simple mention of negatives attract them to you?
Thanks for the help
K, I think I may have astral Projected last night, but need someone to tell me if i did or not k , so I was falling alseep, got the astral projection feeling you get, and I was asleep wth the lights off, I woke up or astral projected..and I saw my arm, how i was sleeping ans part of my face everything was in black and white though, wierd? or normal? idk so im asking.
I dont think i got out of my body though, maybe just sat up because I was still in me and i was like sitting on myself awake then i started to see something black the shape of a face, it was like a t.v. when its antenna is messed up, the figure apeared and diddapeared, then it scared me so i went back and I woke up all scared. so I wonderd if it actualy did happen or I was just dreaming lol. also when i did this i was planning on going somewhere, but i totaly forgot, its like i couldnt think, and since i took forever to think where i wanted to go thats whent he thing started to apear and then i got scared.
I dont think i got out of my body though, maybe just sat up because I was still in me and i was like sitting on myself awake then i started to see something black the shape of a face, it was like a t.v. when its antenna is messed up, the figure apeared and diddapeared, then it scared me so i went back and I woke up all scared. so I wonderd if it actualy did happen or I was just dreaming lol. also when i did this i was planning on going somewhere, but i totaly forgot, its like i couldnt think, and since i took forever to think where i wanted to go thats whent he thing started to apear and then i got scared.
I started feling that my head exits my body when i meditate fells very weird now i can do this very easily whenever i want too fells like i dont have a body at all (very relaxing) and my head detaches a few centimetres from my body
now i can do this very easily whenever i want too fells like i dont have a body at all (very relaxing) and my head detaches a few centimetres from my body
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