Hmm interesting i learned a few new things and my dream clarity decreased too have to reasearch this a bit

And my dream clarity has seemed to go up... That's probably because I've been attempting meditation accidentally instead of AP. I'll leave the research to you, I still can't find a technique I'm happy with. Maybe I'm being a bit too picky.

I remembered it there is a stage when a person doesn't dream anything it happens as an effect of AP , meditation higher awareness or just a big change usually lasts a few days had it happen a few times great for lucid dreaming (if only i could do it >_<) i remember when i had this i was dreaming and looking into the darkness then i thought about a car and the thought became a dream


PS: I had a really weird dream today anyways i was with an Indian boy and he said that his bike is missing he told me to watch the angels , out of a building came about 6-9 angels their skin was white/blue they were really beautiful and their greatness astonished me they said 'me must move down until (Indian boy name) bike is found' i started flying and on the top of the building was standing a 'figure' surrounded by a brown force shield it was so mysterious that i was even a bit surprised he said 'look over there for his bike' (he didnt even show me where! i understood it somehow) i flew there then everything got black and the mysterious figure said 'you must sleep' at that point i understood that i was dreaming and said ' i dont want to sleep' and then our minds joined it was like i was him and he was me. After that the dream ended.

The mind join was like this: see that red part in part 2 of cells division well it was like this we made some kind of a bridge between our minds.

I have Time traveled. The most vivid was at the beging of 1989. This is the first time I have gone public. Before the Internet was popular in 1996, I was engaged in a business relationship that banned this to go public. Yesterday that business relationship was toned down, hence this confession. The other reason is that ten years ago or more someone put a binding spell on me and that I couldn't do harm to myself or others. Yesterday I was shown how to change this. It's like a Greek Curse...Being Intelligent yet because of the way I present things, no one understands and thinks I'm an idiot. I would like to talk about this but taken seriously. Broken down it's using the Theory of Relativity and going into the Bodies of Past lives you had. I won't go into details but think as Time in a Series of Thick and thin lines. To Time Travel it has to meet all Scientific standards. One rule is it has to me conducted with someone else and they have to see the same or similar things. Also past life languages have to be spoken and understood of the definition being comfirmed by both after the session is over. Native American Tribes that were a mere footnote in History have languages that died many hundreds of years ago. However, be warned, when one changes one past life they change all of them. Past, Present and Future. The other Scientific measure is to have people who believe, don't and are in between. Daylight, Night-Time, when the moon is full, when the moon is new. In the privacy of your bedroom. In a crowed movie theater lobby. More to come.

What exactly is a "binding spell"?
Was it from a witch or a leprechaun?
The internet was very very popular before 1996.

A Leprechaun is suppost to be a serious question? Your on the wrong website if you think it is. Don't waste my time.

Or you could delete your past life karma that way you wouldn't be influenced by your past life's. Wait you time traveled? You mean into your past life or did you physically time traveled? Was the binding spell put on you in this life or when in the time travel? Actually i have never heard about a binding spell have no idea how to remove it.

I'm confused

I prefer John Titor's time travel story, but would be interested in hearing more nonetheless. Is this time traveling through Astral Projection? Or were you in some sort of Science-made machine that put you back into the past?

If you want to know what I'm talking about with the John Titor thing, check out johntitor.com to see some of what he said in his posts. It's one of the most believable time travel stories I've ever seen. He shows a few fuzzy pictures of the time machine, pages out of the instruction manual etc., explains where he's from (2036), and what he had to do here, he tells of great turmoil to come for the United States as well as other countries... You guys should check it out.

Anyway, Real Time Travel, I'm interested in hearing your responses and a little more about how you actually got back in time to begin with.

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If you want to know, then ask for the permission of the web master for me to publish the details of the simple formula. I already violated it somewhat by stating: "Think of time as a series of thick and thin lines." along with the use of astro-projection. Then there is also using E=MC2 for the astro projection capabilites. In fact intelligent readers who "read between my 'line theory,' would see the formula, formulate into a vision of the whole concept.

In the meantime stop making fun of me. Future refference all those responses that do so, won't recieve a response from me.

Yes your confused because that's what the binding spell is. Like a Greek curse my intelligence isn't communicated properly and everyone thinks I'm an idiot. The evidence can be seen in the males who responded to me. More to come.

I didnt think your an idiot but you got to rid of that curse maybe there is a way to remove it...

Interesting i think there is a way to remove the curse however im not sure what kind of curse you mean.. do you mean you got cursed through some sort of magic spell or something? cause in that case i believe it wont be too hard to undo.

Well, I wasn't making fun of you at all. You did not, however, answer my question. Do you just use your mind or do you physically travel back in time? Also, saying that you use Astral Projection and incorporate E=MC^2 doesn't make any sense at all either.

Do you realize that the equation explains the amount of energy that is "stored" in matter? Or are you actually trying to say something like you convert your brain matter to energy through AP which in turn creates enough to make you "travel" through time.

It is pretty convenient how you just so happen to have a "binding spell" also. That basically says to me, "I want to tell everyone I time travel, but if you try to call me out on an inconsistency it's not my fault because someone used magic on me specifically to make me sound like an idiot." Is it just me here guys??? Would any of you come post on a forum if someone used a spell to make you sound less intelligent? I think I'd wait till I got rid of it before I started telling the story.

Mind you I'm not saying that I 100% don't believe you, but things seem to have fallen in to place quite perfectly for you to be able to explain your way out of anything.

You two just got affected by the curse XD.


yep he got cursed by a binding spell so others have trouble to understand him (i think) .

Could you tell us what methods you have used to get rid off it?

I would usually dismiss a post like this as nonsense but I am intrigued by your concept of using the theory of relativity to go into the bodies of past lives, whether it is true or not. I'm listening, how exactly did you do this?

In your mind or on a long piece of paper draw thick lines. Those represent centuries. Drawer lines a little smaller representing half centuries. Repeat for decades, years, months, weeks, days. hours, and seconds. The seconds are the smallest lines all the way around. That whole paper is now black with lines, that represents time. Above it is the forth dimension which allows us to astro project into the bodies of past and future lives. Be warned it all has reprocations when events in time are changed. You have to know when to get into it heavily at the start, then not do it so much as the years past.

The key is to mediate when hours seem like minutes. Hence some relativity to some function to the theory of relativity.

The main key is when destiny has you meet a woman you were married to in a past life, and the room changes to outside in the past. No special anything at times sometimes is takes a shared mediation. There's more to it in the area's of ballanced Charkra's.

However it just happens and then you and her are in your past life bodies. Anyone can do it. If they can't they I must have accidently left out an overlooked fact.

Really should find more time for meditation, appears to evoke all manner of spiritual experiences. This sounds very odd, but out of curiosity I'll try it.

P.S fellow projectors, from henceforth I shall be known as Ziggy Stardust. The username socrates has caused some confusion.

Now the thing about this TIME TRAVEL theory is this. Can you validate it? Can you verify it?

Here would be an excellent test. Have someone give you a specific Time - Date in History and Place. An event you are NOT familiar with at all. Then AP "there". Then when "you get back" --- before you read about it. Write down everything from the target that you went to. Then check the records. How did you do w/similarities and not generic or things that would be known like dress code and such. That would be to basic' and 'generic'.

That's a great idea JJ. However though it has been suggested time travel is possible during AP I have never done it, nor do I know of anyone else.

Lucid dreaming is rather real simple. A few suggestions I would like to share;

1) Before dozing off, keep on thinking about dream control till you fall asleep.
Keep on reminding yourself that "this is just a dream". Do not be surprise
if you suddenly "wake up" in your dream. When you do wake up in your dream
try things like willing yourself to float. You will feel physical sensation that you are
afloat, enjoy.

2) When you wake up, try to journal your dream. In detail if you will.
Make it a habit of remembering what you've just dream; like keeping
a journal, or sharing it with others.

3) Enjoy! this is a very rewarding ability and very fun to experience.
Later on when you gained more control, you will even start to "feel"
when you are about to wake up, and will be able to decide either to
wake up already or keep on lucid dreaming.

Hope this helps. More power!

Thanks

I used to time travel on a regular basis in the late 80's to early 90's. Between people not believing me and making fun of me, I said forget it. YOu have no idea what's it like when a girlfriend gets freaked out and breaks up with you. Then there is the law of displacement. That is to say when your present soul goes into a past life body, eventually you past life soul goes into your present body. That is to have your past life see into the future. Then people start thinking you have a split personality.


I don't care if no one believes me, because no one has except for a few college professors. I've dealt with it for years. The insults the humiliation, the accusations, the butt of all jokes. I jsut wrote publically the formula for time travel. What did I get, more posts indicating that I was lying. If you don't want to take my word for it, and you don't want to do it yourself, It's not my problem.

All I wanted was someone to take me seriously instead of thinking that my experiences never occurred.

Besides the women I time traveled with I have no idea where they are since I was living in a different state. Then the one I did used to back me up, until she broke up with me, and then he said "I don't know what your talking about."

I'm not here to try and impress anyone. That's why I act in feature films every other year. That impresses people. You want to call me a liar, then I'll leave and everyone will think they know, when only I have actually done. Then If I ever get into time traveling again, your'll never know because you left me with the impression of this being an ignorant and immature discussion room with a bunch of wanna be's.


YOu want to know what exactly occured I'll tell the world. If you all want to insult my intelligence like everyone else, then the secrets I already gave out will be the last!

Why? Seriously. If you can do something, anything, normal or paranormal, if you can do it, then what does it matter what anyone else says about it?

I really want to understand this, so please don't treat me like you did SwampGator.

In that exchange, you said that you had been placed under a spell. He(?) asked whether that spell was cast by one or another of two reputed sources of spells, witch or leprechaun.

Was he mocking you? Maybe. Probably. But his question as written was entirely reasonable in context.

You would do better to answer the question which was asked, rather than complain about it. The exceptions would be trick questions, demands for personal information, or "rhetorical" questions. None of those apply to SwampGator's query.

I am not mocking you. I want to understand how you feel about your experience, and how people react to your report of it.

O.K. cool I can respect that. I've had so much verbal abuse for years that I wouldn't rule out P.T.S.D. on the subject. As far as the binding spell, It's just another fact or reality when comes to time traveling. AS far as it matters what others have said, imagine if you did something that was amazing, yet the vast majority calls you a flat out liar. Just imagine it and your see what I'm coming from. Heck when I did it in front of a room full of people and gave a speech at one of those holistic health conferences where the whole room was trying to go into their past life bodies, that was probably the only time that those who didn't go back in time believed me. However, lets talk science and not debate.

When you ask yourself "why is my personality like this?" If there is something in your personality you don't understand, that's normal. When you time travel you feel/see that this small piece of your present life personality was in fact the majority of your past life personality.

When you time travel your past life personality or soul comes into the future as we know it. Just as a portion of your knowledge that you pick up from the past. Your past life self jumps into your body in the future, (which is our present,) and takes that experience and what they/you see back with them. No two things can occupy the same place at the same time. Hence, go back into the body of a past life, For an equal amount of time, (though not always at once,) Your past life self see's thier future which is your present. Then your past life self has visions, of lives hundreds of years
before that life time.

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Then when your past life self goes back into the body in the past, Those around you will probably get freaked out. Depending on the society and how many hundreds of years ago. Not only you, but your wife and your sister may be seen as evil an put to an an early death. Now if you time travel into your past life body after you are murdered, then you are talking an undocumented resurrection. Something along the line of having other people say in your past life: " What are you doing here? I killed you!" Then kill you again.

The values of your past life will interfer with your mannerisms of the present life.

Can you ressurect yourself in every past life? No. It depends on how spiritual you were in that past life. Obviously one past life in which you were a native american medicine man and hundred years later a Native American warrior, that's more of a magnetic draw, then say being a Christian fearing man hundreds of years later. In fact, if you time travel more to the Native American past life because the women your going back with is more in tune to AP, as compared to going back to say 1863 with someone else, there's no way this is going to be repeated. However, If you were wounded and on the brink of death and go back to prolong your life just a little longer until your in a hospital death bed, then it's possible. I'm not saying you turn into a god and people start worshipping you. I'm saying It's more like someone in your past life saying to your past life body, ( or to themselves.) "I could have sworn he was dead when I checked him!"

The weird part is When you change events in your past life bodies, you change your present and future destinies without even knowing it. Just going back you have your present life dictated before you are born in this life. So, at one point your friends in the present, in example belonged to the same tribe or villiage that you time traveled the most to. Then if you time travel and have people in that past life AP into thier past lives and thier future lives, that reinforces the destiny of your present life even more!

Then it gets strange. Say in a totally different past life that hasn't even been discussed yet. Now in that past life say some solders were going to kill you and your wife/girlfriend. Now you should die because of your lifestyle you have no idea how to defend yourself. Imagine if you then time travel with the present day knowledge of killing people with your bare hands like Sonny Chiba in the early 1970's Martial Arts Film "Street Fighter." ( I think that's the right Chiba movie.) Then you kill the solders and escape and start an underground revolution. On the other side of the coin, imagine due to your spike in intelligence in another life having your tongue cut out and born with a speech impediment in this life.

You can not go back in time in the present life to correct something. There is no way. You can jump forward and see what your future will hold in this life. It won't make sense, but when you see it, you will recognize it and have the fore sight to see that your at the cross roads that you had a vision of. What really doesn't make sense is when you go hundreds of years in the future and see things that make you say "no way!' Even if the woman you time travel with see's it too.

Seriously, were all those posts necessary?

Alright, so you have you're on theory that goes along with AP, thats great and all! But, if you post something like this on here
you can expect a degree of objectivity and skepticism.

How do you expect anyone to believe you if you don't want to give any kind of solid proof?


You can't just get upset everytime someone questions you're claims! In all do respect they do seem a bit far-fetched. But, I am willing to try and understand
if you give out some more information...

Thanks,
Tom

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Now the more you go back into the bodies of your past lives, the more of those personalities get rooted in the present life. So If your a compulsive Liar in this life time, and you go back into a Native American past life that deals with Honor and Pride as a Religion, In the present life you'll probably will be known as someone who used to lie, but now doesn't. If someone in your present life asks you a question, no matter how much you want to lie, even if it means losing a ton of money by telling the truth, your'll tell the truth. If you cheat on your girlfriends now, when you go back, you feel how deep the bonding was with the women you loved in past lives. Then You'll end up, at times not wanting to look at other women. BAck in past lives, Love was like having a soul mate. In today's society love can have the attention span of a political commericial.

Basically I wouldn't say you become phyically stronger, but mentally yes. Then there is ancient knowledge, that you pick up also.

If you look at the times of the posts you can tell that I've been having problems with the computer that I'm using. (i.e. typing something really long then having it erased, over and over. So shorter posts to make sure it goes up on this computer, yes.)

Objectivity and skepticism means just that. Skepticism if people read what I put on in detail so they actually listen and hear what I said, then sure. If I say I've used astro projection, it doesn't mean I used a time machine. Yet, as you see that question was poised to me. In you case I said no one in the past for the most part has believed me, so I am not looking for everyone to believe me. I am looking for the few people who want to know what they are getting themselves into before they do it. Yes, it can somewhat ruin your present life. That's what's up with the posts warning people what to expect.

That's why I gave the formula for time travel to some degree. Metaphyics, is phyics which is a science. Scientists repeat the same experiementations and see if they get the same exact results or different results. AGAIN THAT IS WHY I PUT ALL THOSE POSTS UP, SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE REPROCUSSIONS OF 'EXPERIMENTING IN TIME TRAVEL.'

That's solid proof under the rules I put up on my very first post a few pages ago. If it can't be duplicatable there is no scientific proof! I hope I was able to explain it well this time.

Thank you for answering my question, Real Time traveler. I have a better understanding now of how things look to you. I think I finally know what you meant by "spell," too.

I can see why you spoke to a friendly audience, as you recounted in your post. But, I do not understand why you would ask a hostile audience to believe you. The best way to avoid being called a liar is not to insist that someone react to something you know they don't want to hear.

As I am sure you have noticed, a lot of the audience here at UM is hostile... excuse me, sceptical...about claims like yours. You might want to think about simply telling them that you respect their opinion, but that you have witnessed to the truth as you experienced it, and that they can take it or leave it as they please.

More broadly, I hope the day comes soon when you realize that what any stranger thinks about you is their problem, not yours. Hang in there.

In all honesty, when I did a search under the forth dimension this discussion group was like 3rd or 4th on the list. Hence, I thought this was a group of people who have accomplished or are trying thier best to refine thier time travel abilites. This is why when I got the resistance, I was like: "What? These people have devoted some part of thier lives to open up to other dimensions, "(I really didn't read all the posts, but the ones I did read didn't sound like any results were made.) Then When I came forward, I got the impression of " If we can't do it, there's no way you did it 20 years ago!" It's like going to a college think tank and saying "Hey I've actually got experience in this," and the students and teachers go, " I don't think so!" Of course my reaction going to be like, " I think I finally found a group of kindered spirts." To only get the reaction found in chat rooms devoted to "Sponge Bob square pants." I was thinking like M.I.T. Indian school of Technology type of devotion to the subject. What I got was people jockeying for the "alpha wolf' position. That's why I'm upset. Not because everyone didn't believe me. Because one person didn't think: "Maybe...just maybe. He might be the missing link." When their opinion is from a perspective of "we're on the same track, there for I will work towards acieving those results." Then yes, I won't have a take it or leave it attitude.

You might want to try a blog here, then you would have a bit more control.

If you're the "missing link", how could you expect others to be equally informed and experienced as you? If that were true, then we would all be "missing links". The title of this thread is "Astral Travel & My Technique", not "Astral Time Travel & Possession of My Previous Bodies".

Many projectionists believe it possible to travel in the past and future. And still, some believe it possible to possess or share physical bodies of other souls. However, I know of no instance where the traveler possessed or shared physical bodies of ones own reincarnated soul. Even though this may be feasible, if the previous beliefs are true, it is the first time that I've heard of it. Have you any references to this technique other than your own experience, or did you come up with the idea on your own?

No.Please don't take away your secrets. What did you expect? Unquestioning belief. Give us a break.

They all expect unquestioned belief .... why should he be any different.... sigh ....... this is truly and seriously sad ...............

I'll say it again: It is the "Believer" that has caused the Skeptic to 'be' .... they brought us into being "Skeptics".

What gets me the most about this theory is even if a person can control their dreams, it is still just that
a dream. I can't say that I believe in AP do to the fact that there is no credible evidence to back it up
other than having to take a persons word for it! To me this just isn't enough.

Now I see a person adding time travel in with AP! This is still just part of a dream. When a person
awakens from a dream reality is going to apply. It doesn't matter how much a person thinks an awake conscious
mind is the same as a sleeping subconscious mind are in the same, they are not. A person cannot bring what they
think is reality in a dream to the real world of being awake.

If someone can give me any kind of credible evidence to make me think otherwise then "PLEASE" by all means do so!


Thanks,
Tom

Tom ... that's the snag in all of this isn't --- they cannot seem to bridge the 'gap' ..... not even sorta, kinda maybe .....

It doesn't take a trained psychologist to read all this and find the many flaws that persist in it.

It really is disturbing that some people cannot grasp reality in a rational manner.

But when you ask about and/or submit some ideas that would add crediblity and proof to it ---> Notice they fight w/no small emo and/or ignore it totally.

PROOF? A Simple Test. Notice that only 1 person stepped up and another got emo over it and the rest ... hide safe in here avoiding any testing that this is nothing more then Lucid Dreams. This is quite obvious and very revealing ... I guess it's safe in ignorance. Run from Objective and Credible and Un-Biased simple testing ....

Yes, congradulations you are right. We all are the missing link. By connecting with our past lives we regain the knowlege lost in magic. To always do the right thing. Not I'm not sure if you heard about the next two stories, so I'll level my intent by expressing it here. A number of years ago a man bought some land in the South West. He had a well. For long periods of time he saw people driving upto the well and throwing down refrigarators and etc.. It so happens they have been doing this for generations. So he lowered what he described in his only radio talk show call in, before he disappered, the 50 miles of a weight on fishing line were used. He said the government came in and hooked up a microphone and heard people screaming in every different language.

Later The Russians are digging a tunnel with a Video camera, and stop when they heard the same thing. Both are now covered and guarded

Do you mean this?

Sounds from Hell

That's been proved to be a hoax. Also, I fail to see what this has to do with possessing the bodies of our previous lives.

I can understand how intervention from a future incarnate soul of the present self might benefit the survival of a species. Can you add any resources or links about this theory?

St. Q ....

I'm coming more and more to the thought - that just about all of the people in Metaphysics Forum are:

A. Yanking people's chains w/their Paranormal "Claims of Fame"
B. R trying to fit in and "Play the Game" to do just that - Fit in.
C. Have a hard time telling the difference between 'dreams' and 'reality'.

That's very possible. The most adept are sometimes ignored, run off, or may not bother posting. I've seen a few book authors post on here only to be ignored, like everyone was afraid to talk to them.

However, we can't dismiss every claim based on the actions of a few. True or not, that last theory is a real mind-blower! I'm very open-minded to any theory that could influence the proliferation of a species. Can you imagine, a future reincarnation projecting in the past to possess your physical body to prevent you from dying in an accident before your children were born? Someone should make a movie... It doesn't get any weirder than this!

Some people seem to hold on to these claims like its a spiritualistic dogma!

I suppose that I would like to see some sort of test carried out that would prove this AP and now time travel actually happens.

Now don't get mad at me! I'm not the one making these fantastical claims. I am skeptical and, I suppose anyone thinking with
a bit of rationality will be skeptical about these claims.

All that is needed is proof! If people can do these things as they so predominately say they can! Then it should not be that hard
to provide some solid evidence.

Sweeeeet thread.
Found for first time, by I!
Wicked.
I'm gonna try this.
I love to try interesting, unusual things, because if it works, its the coolest feeling.
Thanks to the OP dude..

I find it laughable that some skeptics here request proof of astral projection. There is so much evidence validating astral projection I don't know where to start. I have a scientific journal which outlines tests done from french scientists to american psychologists, all with incontrovertable evidence that the soul can leave the body. Skeptics need to search for proof themselves.

As for you Jjbreen, I can assure you I do not fit into any of your three categories. Before experiencing astral projection I was a believer in science and a strong skeptic, and I am still a skeptic towards most paranormal subjects. But astral projection is different - and I assure you, it will gain acceptance as a real anomaly before the end.

Actually I've likely read some of what you talked about ... one specifcally where the guy "knew the numbers on a window in another room..." the problem is w/that one specifically - they did NOT prove Astral Projection ... they only proved that he knew the numbers. They did not set up any monitoring devices on and around him or the bed or the other room .... they simply took his word for it that he did it 'this way'..... Sorry but in that case, that was NOT Objective Testing and it was seriously flawed.

But please site me some Objective and Credible un-biased research online and I will give them some serious reading. I saw "Objective and Credible and Un-biased" because another test that I read went w/the intent to PROVE AP, and like the above --- did NOT set up any protocols at all .... so it was not un-biased, it was not Objective and certainly not credible....

Thanks ... Jj