Yes you left out the part about bringing a sword with you to the astral plane I figured If I could bring my glasses why not a sword well........It worked (don't ask me why I own swords I just do) It was sick awesome next I will try getting people to see me and scare the living crap out of them. I just hope I am up to the challenge.

Hmmm.... not sure but one morning, i opend my eyes, and i felt my bed shaking so having had that happen before i thought no...and as i couldent move my body, i tried so hard to stand up.... all of a sudden i was right up my wall and when i looked down.... there i was.... asleep on my bed Then i started shifting around my room.... from on my bed. to by my door, to on the roof.... and then i saw an old woman sitting on my bed..... and looked at my dog then was back in my body and sat up...... wonder if that was AP ?

It could have been but because you weren't expecting it you couldn't control it, I think thats what happened to me.

That is without doubt Astral Projection, though on a rather rudimentary level! The vibrating bed, is the astral form vibrating, anxious to get out!

I think I did it!

I felt the vibrations and it got severe in a few seconds before I saw I and felt myself float out. But I found out that part of my body was stuck so I concentrated harder. I finally got out and I went off my bed and was suddenly outside a house. It was on the edge of a forest with a town infront of me. It wasn't far away, I'm guessing 200ft. I "flew" to a building and went up the side of a wall. Then I felt myself wake up or re-enter my body. I tried to get back out but just opened my eyes feeling I already did it.

But when I woke up, what I remebered was fuzzy and seemed like a dream.

Was this a dream or projection? I didn't know where I was except for my bed.

Where is socrates??

In the ground, I suppose.



Sorry, corny joke, I couldn't resist.

Oh, although I am definitely a skeptic of this, I tried Socrates' technique last night (more at five in the morning than four in the morning, ). While trying this purely out of curiousity, I felt something very strange- it felt a bit like there were two of me, and one was trying to separate itself from the other, as if they were attracted magnets being pulled apart. Very strange. I don't think I went on any astral journies, but I thought it interesting nonetheless...

I'm really confused as to how I'll manage to do this properly, but I do have a question.

Often times, as I'm drifting into my REM cycle, I find myself tripping on something in a dream/walking into a wall/etc. and I get a sharp jolt as if my actions are defining my dream. My leg will kick up, for example.

Is this a small step to astral projection, or could all the skeptics be right about the experience being nothing but the product of a sharp, steady, strong imagination?

I'm leaning towards the latter, though I'd love to believe astral projection is possible. However, I've had dreams where I've fallen down, and as I'd wake up, my body showed the signs of the impact; sore back, a small bruise, etc.

Interesting topic though. But I have my strong doubts and my strong beliefs about it. I'm ... undecided. =)

XxAshley

Ive been trying to astral project some time now. Ive been using methods tho always loose concentration . Im trying to use a bwgen with the frequency at...6.3hz. Do you think that using brainwaves will make me AP? Oh I had a big jolt when I was listening to it for 10minutes. Bwgen=Brainwave generator might wanna check it out. Also lets see the jolt and heaviness my fingers felt numb and thats about it. But the jolt it felt like my whole body just flew straight up while laying down.

So...anyone wanna try to see if this is real? Here http://www.astral-projection.org/ Might wanna check it out. Post back bout it

Edit: Rude and uncalled for.

LMAO, and you have a point.

Haha no worry i got your joke

Keep this thread civil please. Name calling and rudeness are not tolerated. Next time warnings will be issued.

Yeah where is Socrates? I need some help, I have been pursuing the conscious method. I want to know what comes next after the room starts to wobble around. What do I have to do? Just keep practising and wait for something to happen? Advice please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disorientation is a symptom that denotes mental confusion rather than clarity of mind usually associated with Astral Projection.

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It's not disorientation, even now I can feel it! It is like want to come out of myself, and I can feel myself moving even though I am physically still. Moreover, when meditating, it is almost as though I can see things from another perspective. It is not disorientation, as I can feel the same vibrations that one gets from sleep astral projection. So please some advice from some one who as done it, rather than read about it!

Someone who has done it...or think he has...mmmm..good luck with that..

Socrates will be back shortly to help with your questions.

Well, I have landed here. About astral projection, tried a few conciously but distractions failed my expirementation. Unconciously, I got projected 4 days ahead of time.

I usually write my dreams. They're mostly black and white and few have colors.
My big astral event was freightening that I woke up perspiring with chills and a faster heartbeat. 4 days later, the event happened. It was telecast on TV and sent me shivering.

That event makes me a believer in precognition.

Socrates instruction might be useful to my quest. I'll try it someday. If successful, I'll try to locate socrates location.

Goal:
Precognition
Remote viewing
Astral travel
What lies in 2012

This is a central concept in Rosicrucianism --- a place to meet up on the astral plane. We call it the "Celestial Sanctum." It's initially taught in a little booklet, Liber 777. But I suspect if one searched the Internet you could find many descriptions of it and techniques on getting there.

Thanks Socrates for sharing your technique. I haven't tried hard to do astral projection but have experienced it once, I aim to try your technique out a few times this week.

In my one experience, I was laying down for a short nap but never fell into a deep sleep. I was in some peculiar state of consciousness and had a floating feeling. All of a sudden I was floating right outside of my 3rd story bedroom window, about 30 feet in the air! I didn't feel panicked but was pulled smoothly back through the wall/window and into my body on my bed and peacefully (woke up or regained full consciousness). It was a really cool experience, but I wish I hadn't been pulled back into my body so soon, it would have been cool to float about my property at my own will.

Many times I have woken up to hear my name being called or have heard a large slapping sound that wakes me up. My heart has always been racing. This could be related to astral projection?? It is a terrifying experience when it happens, and I figured it was something supernatural but I never experience ghostly/haunting problems in my house so I have been wondering what the hell could explain these experiences.

Well if you have any ideas please share them, but good post

Is your name Ian?
Heart with triangle.
British Columbia Wisconsin.

Just a hunch. No astral travel involve.

Hey, Whenever Socrates gets back, I have a few questions.

1)Can you speak with a deceased family member or someone deceased?

2)The negative entities you speak of when you do bad things in the AP, can they harm you? What exactly will they do to you?

PS-Have you ever APed to the Playboy Mansion?

I'm sure there are some kind of hidden codes in these words...

Maybe Ian has some sort of heart disease which makes it triangular, and he's from British columbia but now lives in wisonsin?

I wish he spoke modern english.

http://home.comcast.net/~neardeath/nde/001_pages/31.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/19/...ain522488.shtml

Maybe science is going to exlpain it soon ?


It's probably going to be explained as an illusion of the brain (since it has been succesfully simulated years ago), and the people who claim to have visited other galaxies, witnessed alien civilizations, claim that Mars isnot red because they 've been there, talked to Jesus, saw demons and angels are going to be considered lunatics or attention wh*res just like the people who claim that God talks to them .... what a tragedy



Don't get me wrong, I myself had such experiences... In the beginning I thought it was some kind of lucid dreaming.
Anyway my most recent experience was like this... I was at the outside of the church were I used to go when I was a child (now i don't go to the church ) and I was fully aware of what was happening, i was also able to move very fast (i would just reach the place I wanted with 0 traveling time). So I went to the road which was in front of the church, and noticed 2 people walking, an old lady which looked kinda sad (white hair, black clothes, the usual 80 year old lady), and an old man who was some steps behind (i can remember their faces (with details) !) then I thought "oh, I 'm dreaming! I am god here!! Yeah, that old lady should bump on that wall. And so it happened... she walked straight into a building's wall! The old man ran to help her, I kinda got scared because of his reaction because when he helped her stand up again he looked straight at my direction and i wasnot sure if he could see me or not, anyway I thought that that's the part where I should start flying or exploding stuff before i wake up... but instead of that, I felt something grabbing me, and pulling me down... My first thought ? What is happening ? I am god here! Anyway started descending in some sort of void and I appeared in my room... floating some feet above my bed... My first thought ? If someone enters my room is he going to see me flying ? My second thought ? What is holding me ? How the f*** will I get down ?? I 'm like the girl from the exorcist!
And the invisible force that held me up there, decided to lower me gently till I reached my bed, and gained full control of my body (my eyes were open i didnot had any "aah.. rubbing eyes i just woke up" effect. )
By looking at the clock I realized this whole thing lasted around 40 minutes. (but I remember only 1 minute )


I cannot say that was something paranormal, maybe a cool lucid dream. And there is no proof that my experience = paranormal. I believe this is some kind of illusion, you go like "i 'll leave my body, i 'll leave my body" and you trick your mind into making you dream that you left your body. "I 'll go to the kitchen, I 'll go to the kitchen" and you go to the kitchen. It happened to me many times, but I never saw something that I never knew, and I never had 100% freedom.

So I don't know about you, but I consider my experiences as illusions and a victory of self-control and the power of suggestion (because without these 2 it isnot possible).

I am messed around with astral projection, I will be getting back into it full force again pretty soon. I have used the hemi-sync audio cd's to induce the state where your mind is fully awake and your body is asleep and hard to move(said to be the best state in which to induce AP).

I only experimented with this back in the day, about 2 years ago, being so i would be much better now, and will probly learn agian. Develop focuse, and with enough focuse, one can do anything. relaxation is key. Do it when you have energy, i remember back in the day, one thing i had trouble with is my body would start vibrating, even then its all good, just a matter of relaxation.

i find that the trouble with projecting, is enduring the mind space.

one needs to be REALLY relaxed when doing this. The last time i projected i was extrememly relaxed, involentaraly relaxed (sedative).

i would say that one day maybe science can put their thumb on what it is... probably about the same time that they can measure love, or the soul. lol... long time away.

Hey all!

I am sorry for my prolonged absence; I have been busy helping others in Astral Projection workshops and am halfway through exams.

Send me your questions and experiences to astral_projection_help@hotmail.com

I'll help you out in exchange for the pleasure of watching your progress and expanding the astral projection community.

I have to agree in part here.

I have participated in astral projection and yes funnily enough it was when I was younger about 12-13 I am now 34...lol I haven't done it for years because to be perfectly blunt I was afraid.

At that time I was heavily into reading about witchcraft and demonology and religion and theology just a normal enquiring mind. My english school teacher was alovely woman infact very lurvely anyway enough of my school boy crush's she either sawe something in me or just took a guess that I would be interested in astral projection and asked if I wanted to borrow a book on the subject. I did and followed the techniques within and found they worked. The first time I freaked it was like when you are drifting off to sleep and you feel like your falling off a cliff. Well I continued and found myself hovering about my room looking down on myself however I never ventured any further. I am unsure as to why.. I then read about Atsral Demons I am sure that was the term. If I am not mistaken what they would do is kinda hunt around for folk that were projecting then nick in and take over the body and leave you high and dry wandering about in the ether. I am not saying that is possible however I did read something along those lines and it scared the crap out of mine..bearing in mind I was only 13 years old. I thought no thanx not for me and haven't really made a proper attempt since.

Have you any information on astral demons or if there is some other name and how possible is it that they may be able to take over the body of someone who's soul is out for a wander?

Any info would be greatly appreciated thanx ... depending on the answers received I might just give it a go again

thanks Morph

Marvy ive been thinking about the use of Hallucinogenic drugs for a while now and i can say that i wont out rule their use, thats for sure.

Sorry ive only replied now, ive not been back to the forum recently and notice that i missed some stuff here.

This message is for SOCRATES OR KAKNELSON, you guys seem to know alot about this stuff i really need some help.
When i was about 6 or 7 i started sleepwalking i dont exactly know when it stopped but it was even happening in my early teen years. Ive also been gettin or having sleep paralysis since i was about 10 but i didnt know what it was. Honestly i never knew what it was until about a month ago..i didnt knew there was a term for it cuz i thought i was possessed or somthing. I grew up in a christian bording school and this all started there..im really confused about this. I recently started reading these books by Neale Donald Walsch (the conversations with god series) and *lockdown* started shortly after that, i hadnt had them in 3 years(that i can remember) till i read the first book. Now the first LOCKDOWN(paralysis) happened in the early morning of may 1st around 3am, i dont really remember anything except that i was scared and desperatly tryin to wake up, it took me a little bit to wake up and when i did it took me a while to fall back asleep. NOW THE CRAZY PART. My boyfriend died 3years ago on april 27th and im always thinking about him, but on this particular day (may 1st) i started to REALLY think about him...i thought about every moment we shared together, not really even thinkin about me thinkin about it (you follow?) later on when i went to school i was outside smokin and this guy comes runnin to me and asks me for a cig..so then we started talkin a little bit and when we exchange names, i didnt even realize at first but he had the same name as my boyfriends middle name which i thought was really crazy because it is NOT a common name and i had been thinkin about him allllll day. Now my first question is do you guys think that by accidental astral projection loved ones that have passed can communicate with you? and show you signs through the physical world as well?
Second question do you think sleepwalking is anyway related to astral projection?
Third question wouldnt you think that this is at all linked to satan and his powers to take over our souls?
Sorry if ive overwhelmed anyone...im really overwhelmed myself and i just wanna know the truth. Well i really hope you can help me, its nice to know i have people to share these experiences with...i really thought i was alone in this. Hope to here from you soon.

~*Peace*~

Socrates will answer you soon, he is more suited for your questions.

Peace.

hey socrates i dont no if u already answered these questions but i just was reading this and made an account 2 ask u a question on this cuse i plan 2 try it out.
if u can travel into space then how far can u go and how fast?
could u travel 2 a different soler-system or galaxy if so does time in real life slow down as ur doing this?
if u can answer this i will me happy

People usualy freak out in open space and most of them cant even get to the moon..as for the speed, some say that they can fly even in speed of light.
I dont have any real experience, but I say what I have red about.

Here is some interesting methods and info:

http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=65
http://www.5starpsychicadvice.com/How2AstralProject.html

Imo very good info.

Tell us bro...what kind of sedative you used?





There are plenty to choose, you should pick the right one for the right moment

well... to be honest marv, the last time it happened was when i got surgery on my knee. They gave me a mandetory sedative to make me pass out, but i wasn't quite out yet.

My soul left my body and i could see myself and the doctors about to operate on me, talking about the tools and everything. It wasn't scary, more astonishing than anything.

I ended up shooting back into my body, and lifting one of my arms up, to state that i wasn't 100% out yet. The anesthetic doctor then trippled my dosage and i totally passed out lol.

I talked to the doctors after my experience, they told me i have a high tolerance, and that my experience wasn't "uncommon".

Hmm I had read some articles regarding OBE during anaesthetic surgery. Any chance to know what kind of drugs that doctor gave you?
The article refer to Ketamine...

to be honest marv, i have no idea.

and to add to your post, that's a great idea... i never thought of trying to get that sedative again...

i wonder if i have my perscription around somewhere still. lol. i doubt it though.

You could research: "ACL ligament sugery." and find out what kind of sedative they use.

Hmmm....where is Socrates? Im really anxious about what he has to say. Anyway, last night i went to bed around 2 and it didnt take me but 3 minutes tops to fall asleep and i woke up !VIBRATING! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!?!?! I felt really relaxed but i was vibrating, in about 20 seconds it subsided, so i fell back asleep only to wake up again VIBRATING! i really dont know what this is or whats happening, and since yesterday ive been gettin this sharp shooting pain around my cervix and vaginal opening.....if anybody knows what this is please please pleassseeee tell me!

~*Peace*~

Guys, you know theres a handful of decent Astral forum? if you would rather not wait for Socrates to return each time.

Im a member on a few of them.

Marvy, i wouldnt try special k if i were you. I was hooked for 2 years. Luckily i never had any bad experiences with it but i saw people falling into serious k-holes and seriously hurt themselves. And if you ever try it NEVER MIX WITH LSD!!!! And besides it rots your teeth from the inside out!

hey expression, what other forums are you talking about? Im new to this.

Your hormons? Gettin' turned up whahahaha

What happens when u just start 2 project? ur eyes r closed then all of the sudden u open them and ur floating where u were thinking of standing? i may have sum more questions but i cant think right now