really?

Do you think i would lie to you the astral plane is used using thoughts so you can do anything you can think of.

wow thats good when we die we go to astral plane? ( i really do not wish to die)

Really? dying sounds good to me <---- That was a joke

i don't want to die yet.

Ok... Well enough one-line dialogue. I'd like to ask frequenters of this thread about sleep paralysis, anyone here experienced it? If so, was there a presence of a non-physical entity?

no and no also

I had experienced it but no there wasn't an entity there my guess is that i experienced it because of trying AP for 4 times a day. I dont try that much now.

I experienced it when i was 7 years old or something (cant remember the age exactly) but i dont know if there was a entity there cause i only remember being really scare because i could not move.

There was another time though, the first time i got the vibrations i remember it was in the morning and i think i had my eyes open just a little, i could not move at all and i felt this weird feeling and suddenly the vibrations came.. again i dont know if there was a presence there.

Very interesting teachnique. I will practice today .. I have been having Jolt back effect like once in every week during sleep . I have been feeling that out of body for a few second then suddenly jolted back as soon as i realize i am out of body. With the teachnique you give , I am quite sure i can project to another planes.

And now this match the teaching of Buddha ( i am buddist) about the planes of existence .There are total of 3 realms and inside there are total of 31 planes of existence exist.

Buddha had been to all 31 planes in his awakened buddha hood , through Zahn (Zen in japanese).That seems to means what we now known as Astra Projection.

. He can go at anytime he wants to any realm due to his very deep practices on both past and current life . For buddhist aim is to reach or Reborn to a better plane of existance after death and Ultimate aim is to reach the End of Existance (no more rebirth). To achieve those stage (to jump to better plane), there are levels of meditation practices describe in buddha's teaching to upgrade your Conscious level.

3rd Realm consist of 11 Planes . We , Human are at 3rd realm. Plain of Existence number (5) . 2nd and 1st realmn consist of other 20 planes but they cannot be achieve by normal human , they need a lot of practice in meditation and very high level of consciousness.

i think with Astral Projections and some practice, We can visit a few planes of them. But , Careful about the lower planes . Lower then our plains are

(4) Plane of de Demons
(3) Plane of the Un-holy Spirits
(2) Plane of Animals
(1) Plane of HELL

Above our plane No 5 is

(6) Plane of Good Spirits Or beings with Semi Divine Powers (the one who guard us , The one who guard trees , also Troll , Goblins , Fairy)
(7) Plane of the Arch Spirits (or angles) {4th plane of heaven}
(8) Plane of Angles free of Difficulties (3rd Plane of Heaven)
(9) Plane Reserved for final life Next buddha , before he rebirth on Plane of Human
(10) Plane of Angles who can change any shape or form {2nd plane of heaven}
(11) Highest Plane of Angles {1st plane of heaven}

So , We can visit to highest up to plain number 6 (with some luck i think ) , with normal Astral Projection. For others levels , we will need good Karma and Deep practice in meditation. And that can also explain one thing , people who experience meeting with frightening or demons are peopel with bad karma or luck. so do some good deeds before Astraprojection , may be , who knows , can meet with Future buddha on reserve realm , or reach to heavens .

I had about 3 times sleep paralysis.

1st about 6 years ago , no entity , i feel my self i cannot move . Another time i feel someone stepping on my chest , but cannot open my eye so cannot see. about 1 year ago i had one too but nobody around.

the problem i have always had and it's talked about all the time, thinking about it keeps you from it. thinking about it is as big of a distraction as anything. ever think about getting up or walking, blinking, breathing... not really, we just do it.

I have experienced sleep paralysis, and I have had a presence at the end of my bed. I could not move
but I became awake and able to speak although it was very strained and took some effort.
when i was able to move it was also a very strained effort I covered my head with my covers and went into a ball
I asked that it go away. When I looked from under the covers it was still there I asked again from under the covers
because I was really scared
When I looked again it was gone and I could move, needless to say I searched the house sure there was someone in the house.
My Mom and I are very connected and I found out that from another state she had the same presence at the end of her
bed around the same time.She thought it was my grandpa by the description.

Ziggy.

I have experienced sleep paralysis many times during my life since childhood. (Many being about 10-15 times) I have not noticed any entities. The experience can be scary not being able to move but being awake.

Is this not that the brain wakes up but the part that controls the muscles does not wake up? In any case when I astrally project
almost all of the time I am stuck to the floor in the astral and it feels the same as sleep paralysis not being able to move.

I do not know if there is a difference between the two sensations because both feel the same although one is in the astral and the other in the physical.

I feel complete numbness and no amount of effort will move any limb although I can see and move my eyes just not my neck/head. I have previously struggled long and hard before moving , but I understand now that all that is needed is to move just your toe. ( If I knew this before would have mad things a lot easier)

I have only once seen an entity in the astral - it was a dweller experience. A dark figure with red eyed haunted my projection.
And strangely enough the projection was of a future event. (This was when I was like 6 or so)

I wonder weather an astral projection will be easier when the physical body is paralysed like this? Never tried this though.

Yep i had an AP like this but i couldn't move. Is this Astral paralysis ?

we get sleep paralysis when our soul only starts to leave our body, it's like as if you left but didn't go anywhere. i found that trying to move doesn't work, just moving does. it's funny to say it like that but it works. i think that when you are out there, in the astral plane, you feel at home because that's where we come from in the first place. i think it's scarier living in this world lol.

why do you think this world is scarier?

people always talk about being afraid, or encountering negative beings or energy, where are they really afraid, here. if nothing can harm your soul, why worry, it's just human nature. the fear of the unknown or change, our life is full of unknowns.

I get that sleep paralysis all of the time but I have never left my body but I do have weird hallucinations. For example I'll see my plant move around, my TV will turn on or I see somebody walking into the room. I'm also able to wiggle one of my feet to shake me out of it.

hi all,

im new here, for my opinion astral is the best... you can do almost any thing while doing it. you can go place even country. you can even touch things, but you cannot take it with you . for me i can do astral while talking to someone, i know it sounds impossible but i can be done...

That sounds really hard O_O how do you do it?

i don't think that it is necessarily hard to do, just that i like to have a better understand of the whole thing. i'm not one of those jump right in kind of people. i think of astral travel as self exploration. that's why they say to start out slow, my first experience was that i started to breath heavy, once i noticed that i started to calm down and explore. but then i realized that you need an objective or a reason, something to give you direction. that's because you can be very distracted and start to become stuck or return to your body. i also found that returning is easier than getting out, just think about waking up. at least that's my take on it.

I believe so. Sleep paralysis seems to be a close component to astral projection. I only began experiencing sleep paralysis after I started projecting; I have not experienced it prior in my life.

Thanks for sharing.

i use to get sleep paralysis everyday, its a great way to astral project since your concious is disconnected from your body. close your eyes and focus on moving your conscious outwards, from this you can astral project. thats how i astral projected.

My friend who has a neuroscience degree tells me I could be having seizures. OOBE and the sounds I hear are the apparent symptoms. I especially worry about the sounds, because I can still hear them even when I'm not projected and perfectly awake (either before the onset of sleep or after I wake up). So, naturally I'm scared for my health.

Yesterday, I had a really bad OOBE. I usually can get out of my body without any pain or disturbing noises. I could hear intense rapid popping sounds while half my body was coming out of itself and the other half staying in. I felt intense vibrations and my “Body” felt like it was stretching. It was a horrible pain. I was perfectly awake and paralyzed when it started. I used to think astral projecting was fun, but I just feel sick now.

Also, the popping sounds take forever to go away. After I gained control of myself I tried to hit them out of my head... I looked like a madwoman.

paralysis happens when you just start to leave your body, your subconscious wants you to stay just as you start to leave. you start to think about what's going on and not knowing what's going on leads you become frozen, so to speak. i have read to clear your mind and not worry and you start to move again, away or back to.

Id love to help, first of depending on your energy and will power it can take anywhere from couple days to a couple years to learn, with practice comes more self control and more experiences, here is how I project.

It is very important to think,read,and discuss AP as much as you can throughout the day.....tell yourself that YOU WILL PROJECT TONIGHT.

1. Never try to project when youre not laying on your back, for some reason this is of utmost importance to me.
2. Set yourself up in some comfotable clothes and a loose comforter of some kind( your body can get pretty cold) use a couple more pillows than you do normally so your upper body is proped up more than is comfortable for sleep.
3.Lie down in a very quiet low lit-(not pitch black,so your astral body isnt bumping around in the dark when it seperates) place. Start to clear your mind of all racing thoughts.
4.Excercise every muscle in your body starting with your toes and ending with your face muscles. squeeze,clench and release all muscles...stretch them out and relax them until you feel there is little to no tension left.
5.After this I do a grounding technique in which I imagine my body is soaking up positive energy from the earth through the ground...I imagine that this energy is a vibrant golden light which luminates my entire body until I am "glowing" with energy.
6.At this point you should start to feel very tired,THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME, you must do anything possible to keep your mind awake as your body drifts off to sleep.I use a mantra usually "OHM MANI PADME HUM" You say this or any other phrase you find suitable so long that it blends in with itself over and over until it is the only thing you hear in your mind....blocking out all racy thoughts that lead to distraction. If this doesnt work try thinking of an image such as a rose...now imagine this rose was really in front of you,look over every detail from the sharp thorns,to glistening beads of dew as they drop down the petals. Just make sure youre mind is focused on one thing constanly so brain activity doesnt cause your mind to fall asleep.
The intention here is to let ur body fall asleep, so you must be COMPLETELY STILL...no movement whatsoever...ignore that itch,ignore the urge to rearrange yourself or shift positions.
7.When ur body has fallen asleep you WILL know(the first time this happened to me I remember hearing myself snoring and thinking WTF? who is that,then I tried to move my body and could not,I realized my body was asleep)....this sleep paralysis can be very frightening as u will NOT be able to move your physical body, you may hear/see strange things but remember you have the control and will to overcome anything you encounter.
8.Soon you will start to feel strange vibrations or body buzzes....do not let these frighten you, instead try to control them or just go with the flow. AT this point you will need to "leave you physical body" this caan be very tricky, many times you will becomr partially detached, or just be hovering over your body. You will know hen you are able to this because you can open your "astral eyes" but still realize you are asleep.
9.I usually just take all my energy and think of myself in another location , whether it be a few feet away or floating through the roof.
10.another good way is to imagine a double of yourself in full detail somewhere else than your bed...now try to project your concious into thisdouble and "see" through its eyes.
11.you will find that most rules of nature do not apply to your astral body...it is the most amazing feeling in the world, sorry if this doesnt make sense, if you have some ?s message me back.....DONT GIVE UP IT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU WILL IT TO

Dont know how late I am to this question, as I haven't been on in a while. But I have once that i recall as complete paralysis & yes there was a non physical evil entity present.

You really need to let a docter look at this. Astral travel is not supposed to leave you with any lasting exit sensations. This could be something else which you need medical attention for.

I would not suggest you try to project until you have been cleared fit and healthy by your docter.

Hope you feel better soon and can return to projection.

Yup! Happened to me when I was at my ex-boyfriend's house. I had hardly any sleep, and when I did get to sleep, I suddenly woke up and to my confusion couldn't move anything! Nothing like my arm or a leg. I was actually quite calm at first, but when I tried to speak, it came out as 'Uh.. uh... uhh!' My thought then was great, so this is what it feels like to be paralyised...

Just then, I felt unnerved. It was as if there was something watching over me, but I couldn't look up to see what it was. It felt as if I was being watched, and I could've swore I saw this creature-like-thing on top of me! It was kind of unmoving, and I think I saw this shadow next to the bed, over 6 foot tall and a bloke I believe. I'm not sure, though. Anyway, that was when I willed myself to snap out of it, and I then found myself in the same position, my head on my ex-boyfriend's chest with sweat developed underneth. eww lol. I researched about it, as I was quite fasinated what had happened to me and it's turned out that if you're in a new environment or had hardly any sleep, then you are more likely to fall into one of those sleep paralysis. Interesting.

I'm trying to astral project again! Tried it today and i got some wonderful results , i felt like floating up out of my body and really saw with closed eyes i have to try this more because i find it easier now after getting some experience with meditation .

Nice work! Keep us posted

im not trying to be funny but can I have sex with my girl during astral travel?

Yes, but only with her astral body. Astral sex between two people is very different from physical sex. I won't go into the details, but you can find several good articles about it on the Internet. Using your favorite search engine, perform a search for "astral sex".

The first hit using MetaCrawler is: OBE - Astral Sex Part 1

Abstinence from physical sex and the longing to be reacquainted with missing or lost loved ones have been known to initiate OBEs.

Funny you should say this....the other night I had partial sucess with this...it was awesome, as I was floating around my room, I reached inside my GFs body and "pulled out what seemed to be her astral body" she has never been able to project....it was really amazing to me that I did this, it seemed tho that her astral body was asleep or unconscious then randomly, I started to make love to her, kinda strange since she was not conscious, but I really did seem to be getting pleasure through this...after a few minutes I accidentaliy thought of my physical body and real life then.....SNAP I was back in my own body and that was the end of that.....I have had astral sex with other "conscious projectors" and it was unlike anything I had ever experienced..I dont want to get into detail but lets say it ended with great results...lol

how i wish i could live next to the playboy mansion and do this. lol But I've had sleep paralysis and now i want to astral travel. I seem to suck at these things though lol.

I actually laughed out loud for real when I read this.

I love you for this. D: (And ziggy )

Well said.

Hurray i had an AP! Ok it lasted only about 0.5 seconds but it was still an AP. Anyways i was meditating and got a rushing felling (first time!) like i would be the wheels of a race car , i saw my eyelids open and myself being at supermarket 'mega' (probably because i walked around there for 4 hours that day) , that was kinda weird because i could see three places at once .

I had something like this the first time i got the vibrations... i managed to open my eyes a little so i could see through my normal eyes and i could still look around with my (astral eyes?) it was really weird.. was like i was constantly looking out my eyes but i was still looking the way i wanted like i had more eyes

Im not completely sure if I had/started to have an ap. I was lying in bed, suddenly I felt these.. Rushes of.. Force? Tingling? Running across my body. I saw a little light show, and well, I felt a pulling feeling. Kinda. ._.

I had such things happen a lot its like my eyelids would be open a little and i see my room colored in weird colors.

By the way i dream't about some kind of ice planet Gundun or something , just thought that would be interesting.

oo dreaming of space is an interesting exprience. Were there any monsters?

Not really i was just shown the ice planet i could clearly see a super sized frozen continent and a frozen super-ocean its about 456 light years away from the sun. And there was another planet kinda like Saturn but smaller , red with brown rings around it.

Oh and another interesting i saw Mars on the trip but it wasn't red at all it was fully colored dusty looking place and there were a lot of really long weir looking lines on its surface could that be canyons?


Space is cool you should really try dreaming of a nebula sometime it looks amazing.

This sounds very interesting! Are you able to experience this sort of thing, even though you never tried/experienced it before??

maybe you astral travelled to space and saw it

I think we astral project while sleeping and Tutte i just dream't of it i cant experience whenever i want.

Enough about me i feel like stealing the thread.

its wonderful you can dream so vividly villus

hmm

i seem to have done this before
ironically my job has my clok set to 4 and i sleep 4 1/2 an hour after

although since doing it for 3 yrs ive found that a buissy mind is more likly to sort and absorb large amounts of data in this state instead of AP