for the most part you do retain your physical appearance, you might look healthier, slimmer, and in better physical condition altogether. and sometimes ppl can astral as somethine completey different, like i was talkin to someone on here who astrals as a wolf, do if you just dont think about what you will look like when you astral then you will just be a better look you.

What does it mean if you can't see yourself?

I've reached out to touch someone else's shoulder, only to discovered that my invisible hand goes right through them. I've made several conscious efforts to see my own arms, but so far, have not. With no conscious effort at all, I've discovered that I can't see my own reflection in mirrors, nor can I see my own nose, like I can now, using my peripheral vision.

If we resort to KISS*, the fact of the matter is that we have no body. The phantom illusions of previously possessed appendages exists only in our minds. Perhaps I've never experienced a fully-conscious astral projection, where subconscious thought automatically replicates a hallucinogenic body. All my excursions may have been etheric projections, where phantom appendages have no real substance or reflectivity. I'm a delusional man, amputated from the top of the head down.

EDIT: *KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid (aka "the simplest solution is often the correct one.")

Sleep paralysis means waking up without being able to move for some time.

Perhaps you're remote viewing rather than APing? I know little of remote viewing though.

Etheric Projection

Though closely related to astral projection, in etheric projection a projector encounters mainly that which exists physically, moving about in a (usually invisible) etheric body. The term was used as far back as the 1940s, by Dion Fortune in her book Psychic Self Defense. In contrast to astral projection, during this type of experience, there are no fantastical worlds, or self-absorbed encounters; the majority of the experience can "hypothetically" be validated.

The world encountered during etheric projection may seem to be at variance with physical reality if strict mind control is not maintained. Robert Monroe describes this type of projection as a projection to "Locale I" or the "Here-Now", and describes it as containing people and places that actually exist in the material world. Robert Bruce refers to a similar area as the "Real Time Zone" (RTZ) and describes it as the nonphysical dimension level closest to the physical.

In Western theosophy, each subtle body is functionally distinct. Since the etheric body and astral body are not the same, they cannot represent the same kind of psychic activity.

According to Max Heindel, the etheric "double" serves as a medium between the astral and physical realms. Ether, also called prana, is the "vital force" that empowers the Physical forms in order for change to take place. This means that when one views the physical during an OBE, they are not technically "in" the astral realm at all.

That's what I figured. I think I was just so surprised to see how easily things began to take action once you start focusing, that I just stopped lol. I can't wait to get full blown into it though. Are things super blurry once you project, or does everything seem like the real world, but you can walk through walls and stuff?

That's what I figured. I think I was just so surprised to see how easily things began to take action once you start focusing, that I just stopped lol. I can't wait to get full blown into it though. Are things super blurry once you project, or does everything seem like the real world, but you can walk through walls and stuff?

nothin is blurry, its clearer and everything looks better then the real world, its hard to describe, its like looking throw a rain bow. you can see so much more colors and everything is so much clearer. its like you have better eyes when you astral. and you can fly, go anywhere you want, even to other stars and anywhere in space, walk threw wall, meet passed on loved ones, talk to other beings that live there, read the akashic records, witch has every though every human ever had, tells everything of the past and even tells of the future. you can do anything you want to do there. its great. now im really tired and i no i didnt describe it good but i dont care right now.

And my avatar is from the album art to Gorguts "The Erosion of Sanity". The artwork is done by Dan Seagrave, who did a ton of early 90's death metal art.

I've heard others talk of traveling through space and the universe; have you ever done it? I personally would love to do this while astralling; probably the number one thing actually. The future? I'm just very curious because it all seems so damn perfect. I'd like to do that number experiment thing too; have a friend write down like a three or four digit number and hide it in the room somewhere, then astral and read it then come back and tell them...that would be damn interesting.

One thing I don't understand is the communication with passed loved ones. If they are passed on, then they can't be astraling, right? Unless you're technically on the other side, but I don't think that's the case. Just so many questions lol.

And my avatar is from the album art to Gorguts "The Erosion of Sanity". The artwork is done by Dan Seagrave, who did a ton of early 90's death metal art.

I'm talking about visiting different star systems and random planets and stuff...stuff that's light years away.

That alone makes me want to master the art of Astral Projection; I felt many of the sensations I've read about on here last night while meditation for only like 5 minutes while falling back to sleep, so I think I'm headed in the right direction.

Are you supposed to open your eyes when you feel like you are there, or does it just happen once you are out of body?

People who want to tinker with that technique might be interested in a free program for many platforms:

I couldn't get passed the sensation of floating stage again; not going to stop me from trying more though

That's the spirit.

I couldn't get passed the sensation of floating stage again; not going to stop me from trying more though

hi, i'm new here and this is my first post, i always wanted to astral travel, and i just wanted to ask ziggy if it is true that one can astral progect while lucid dreaming, thank you

hi, i'm new here and this is my first post, i always wanted to astral travel, and i just wanted to ask ziggy if it is true that one can astral progect while lucid dreaming, thank you

thank you very much for you response, but do you have any technices for lucid dreaming, because i've read an article on a site, that says that i should visualise(during the day) something physically impossible on a daily basis, like changing the color of the ground, levitate, etc.... and that soon this habit will fade into the sub-con, and manifest itself, in dreams giving you the chance to become lucid, is this an appropriate method to follow?????

I read that you can in the astral plane

thank you ziggy stardust for trying to send me that file, i still appreciate it, but i still have some questions about astral projection that i wanted to ask you.

When I realise I'm dreaming I automatically try and wake up. It's happened once, wear I woke up in my dream and actually realised "oh my god, i'm dreaming... well I better wake my self up" then i'm awake. I realised i was dreaming another time too but I was already waking up. I became consciouss before my body my body woke so I heard this weird noise and after a while I realised it was me snoring. my ears drums started to pick up the nose and i could hear it as my eyes started to work. it felt like i was in my throat when i was waking up untill my eyes started working.

ok here are my questions:
_is it true that while out of body any idea, becomes a physical reality
_is it possible to summon demons and create servitors while out of body
_what locations have you visited so far while you were astral projecting
_did you visit another planet,and if so, did you encounter an intelligent life form

thank you.

I'm actually not sure what a servitor is, can you enlighten me?

As for summoning demons, that's a big no no. Any affiliation with evil in the astral will cause horrible experiences.

Making oneself physically visible... I have never done this, and here are people throughout history who claimed to have done or witnessed it. It may be possible.

It is true.

a servitor is an entity, a thoughtform created by a magician(chaos magician) and programmed to aid him in a certain task, and i've read that before one attempts to create a servitor or summon a demon on the physical, one must have accomplished it on the astral, and by the way, the next time you ap, can you try to make yourself visible and tell me if you getany results?????

ps: summoning demons of the goetia is completely safe, when the right rituals are performed, so don't worry.